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nitrogen:
lol, we needed to change the manager, and its has backfired. Simple thing is to move on to another rather than start asking for another set of players.

We should overhaul an okay team for a manager that has not even tried to use the current tool to do something meaningful. You are willing to take such risk of being back to this point after wasting another 700m overhaul spend with/on Amorim? You think money grows on trees?

Doing the same thing and expecting a different result is insanity.

afrodoc2:
The club is finished in ways more people will start to realize later.

We will escape relegation this season but unless something major happens, relegation is not off the table within the next 5 years.

Time to pack it all up then.

nitrogen:
Haha. God help us. We got 15 out of 45 so far under Amorim, at this rate we might struggle to do 10 out of possible 36 points left.

We can't relegate

Southampton's fate seems sealed - they currently have a miserly 10points.

I also suspect that Leicester's relegation status has also been rubber-stamped on code

Wolves and Ipswich would battle out 17th position

Only thing is that we should brace up for our worst EPL finish in decades

main24:
Doing the same thing and expecting a different result is insanity.

I don’t get. So other clubs changing managers everytime are stupid or what? So the next reasonable thing to do is keep the current manager, overhaul with another 700m (with debt mind you) and then eventually sack the manager, with the fans asking for another set of ‘his’ players for another manager? Is not that insanity?

nitrogen:
Haha. God help us. We got 15 out of 45 so far under Amorim, at this rate we might struggle to do 10 out of possible 36 points left.

36 points might just be enough. So we need 2 more wins

nitrogen:
I don’t get. So other clubs changing managers everytime are stupid or what? So the next reasonable thing to do is keep the current manager, overhaul with another 700m (with debt mind you) and then eventually sack the manager, with the fans asking for another set of ‘his’ players for another manager? Is not that insanity?

Let's work with facts...
1. Mention one top performing club that is busy changing managers and mention their players.
2. Then we can compare their set of players to what we currently have here.

Larride, can you please come to the front of the congregation and explain what your man Amorim is all about?

main24:
Let's work with facts...
1. Mention one top performing club that is busy changing managers and mention their players.
2. Then we can compare their set of players to what we currently have here.

I think you are missing the point

When a team struggles with poor results, the manager is usually the 1st casuality

E.g that's why Ten hag was sacked before his Anthony was loaned out...lol

Jamiuokolaa:
I think you are missing the point

When a team struggles with poor results, the manager is usually the 1st casuality

E.g that's why Ten hag was sacked before his Anthony was loaned out...lol

Let him continue to break things down.

Jamiuokolaa:
I think you are missing the point

When a team struggles with poor results, the manager is usually the 1st casuality

E.g that's why Ten hag was sacked before his Anthony was loaned out...lol

I am saying we've been trying that experiment for years and it has proven not to work for us...why not we try something else aside changing managers alone?

......really cracked up with comical views of some United fans. Do you guys actually believe our players are better than mid-table clubs' players?!

What makes Onana better than Pickford?! Maguire and De Ligt better than Braithwaite and Tarkowski?! Oh cos they are wearing Manchester United Jersey right?!

Is Hujlund a better Striker than Beto?! Compare Gueye and Casemiro as well. Perhaps Urgate is slightly better than Garner. O'brien over Dalot definitely. Zirkzee on par with Harrison.....so what makes United deserve even a point at Goodison Park?!

......only a madman, a portable-like Manager/Coach will accept United Offer if we do away with Amorim.

Once again, Amorim should never change his philosophy to please the players or impatient fans. If he loses the job coz of it, he should be proud of it and himself.

patrickmuf:
Are you for real? Young dived like there was a pool in front of him. You have been very critical of our performances since Bin Laden was axed...Where was the energy before now?

I actually posted that before the Young diving incident and bias aside, the Ref was on our side today, no complaints.

As for criticism of Amorim, I ask you, is this shit show what Ten Hag was sacked for? Man has 4 wins in 15 PL matches. We were 12th on the log and 5 points from top 6 when Ten Hag was sacked in November. Now we are sitting in 15th being closer to relegation than than the top half of the table. Was it ever this bad under Ten Hag?

And don't forget like most people here do on purpose, I called for the sack of Ten Hag after the FA Cup win last season cos I knew his race here was run. The sack he received in November was inevitable. Having said that, wasn't Amorim suppose to stabilise the ship and improve on whatever Ten Hag was doing? Instead we are going further down and imploding.

Don't join those who leave the message and start attacking the messenger because of some preconceived bias, if Amorim no sabi the job, make him find way resign abeg cos he's been the worst manager post Fergie. Rangnick wasn't this bad nau.

Ruben Amorim: "In training, we have to continue to do the same. In the second half, we changed nothing. We have to do the same thing but in a good way. We have to improve on creating chances and in this game also we struggle with scoring goals."

Oasis007:



......really cracked up with comical views of some United fans. Do you guys actually believe our players are better than mid-table clubs' players?!

What makes Onana better than Pickford?! Maguire and De Ligt better than Braithwaite and Tarkowski?! Oh cos they are wearing Manchester United Jersey right?!

Is Hujlund a better Striker than Beto?! Compare Gueye and Casemiro as well. Perhaps Urgate is slightly better than Garner. O'brien over Dalot definitely. Zirkzee on par with Harrison.....so what makes United deserve even a point at Goodison Park?!

Oasis007, I am really trying not to abuse our players. I know it's hard to perform at that level but common even if it's Enyimba players, I will take over what we have here.

Guys, I've just seen Giggs level wing play from AWB against Arsenal resulting in a goal for West Ham.

Ruben Amorim: “The worst part is that we are losing the ball without pressure and we are not doing what we need to do. We were soft.”

MRTA7:
Guys, I've just seen Giggs level wing play from AWB against Arsenal resulting in a goal for West Ham.

AWB over Dalot anyday anytime and twice in the morning.

main24:
I am saying we've been trying that experiment for years and it has proven not to work for us...why not we try something else aside changing managers alone?

Yeah, only that a manager needs to actually show workings to earn more time i.e to prove that he is the right man for the job

Breaking negative records left right and centre surely doesn't help any manager's reputation

Maybe Amorim too should implement Ten Hag's trick of winning trophies to buy more time..lol

If we finish in this 15th position and manage to win the UEL or FA cup, he might be lucky enough to earn INEOS' benefit of doubt and forge ahead with whatever plans he has..

Las las, managers are like trains thats why the general perception is that it might take a while before we recover from the mess Ten hag dragged us into

main24:
Oasis, I am really trying not to abuse our players. I know it's hard to perform at that level but common even if it's Enyimba players, I will take over what we have here.

...na una dey worry una selves. We gonna have to enduring the pain until end of season, then climb mountains to pray for intervention - cos if we don't get Amorim the tools he needs, its gonna be same story again.

nitrogen:
The doomsday scenario here does not make sense. This team was 3rd in the EPL two years ago. They won the FA cup last season. We should stop justifying rubbish abeg.

Why do you like speaking from both sides of the mouth?

nitrogen:
lol, we needed to change the manager, and its has backfired. Simple thing is to move on to another rather than start asking for another set of players.

We should overhaul an okay team for a manager that has not even tried to use the current tool to do something meaningful. You are willing to take such risk of being back to this point after wasting another 700m overhaul spend with/on Amorim? You think money grows on trees?

nitrogen:
The doomsday scenario here does not make sense. This team was 3rd in the EPL two years ago. They won the FA cup last season. We should stop justifying rubbish abeg.

2yrs ago City won the treble, why are they useless this season?

A manager that coached this same squad to 3rd 2 years ago and won the last FA Cup wasn’t good enough for you. But you’re demanding that a new manager that takes over the same squad in mid season after bad results produce magic?

Fear God now.

eph12:
Some people here still believe that because the name of the club is Manchester United, they automatically have better players than other teams in the league. Dreamers

Better dreamers.

Oasis007:
Ruben Amorim: “The worst part is that we are losing the ball without pressure and we are not doing what we need to do. We were soft.”

.....we are talking like the man is doing nothing. Is he gonna enter pitch with canes to force them doing the needful?!

Maybe Board should get him a Pistol, so anyone not playing well or to instruction should be - pooom?!

CapitalCee:
36 points might just be enough. So we need 2 more wins

Tough ask TBH 😀

Leyqute:
Tough ask TBH 😀

I looked at our fixtures now, i dont see where those 2 wins will come from.

Jamiuokolaa:
Yeah, only that a manager needs to actually show workings to earn more time i.e to prove that he is the right man for the job

Breaking negative records left right and centre surely doesn't help any manager's reputation

Maybe Amorim too should implement Ten Hag's trick of winning trophies to buy more time..lol

If we finish in this 15th position and manage to win the UEL or FA cup, he might be lucky enough to earn INEOS' benefit of doubt and forge ahead with whatever plans he has..

Las las, managers are like trains thats why the general perception is that it might take a while before we recover from the mess Ten hag dragged us into

The problem didn't even start from ETH, he just compounded it.
Amorim is just showing everyone that these set of players can work with him.
It's not as if he can't tweak it but what's the use? any ETH 2.0?

The sooner fans realize we're in a deep hole, the better. Digging further won't help.

Leyqute:
A manager that coached this same squad to 3rd 2 years ago and won the last FA Cup wasn’t good enough for you. But you’re demanding that a new manager that takes over the same squad in mid season after bad results produce magic?

Fear God now.

🤸‍♂️🤣😁

Oasis007:


Ruben Amorim: "In training, we have to continue to do the same. In the second half, we changed nothing. We have to do the same thing but in a good way. We have to improve on creating chances and in this game also we struggle with scoring goals."

So he didn’t change anything and the players decided to turn up? This man doesn’t have taktikis

Oasis007:
Ruben Amorim: “The worst part is that we are losing the ball without pressure and we are not doing what we need to do. We were soft.”

This guy should focus on his taktiks. That’s the reason we can’t keep the ball under no pressure. His taktiks are bad.

Leyqute:
A manager that coached this same squad to 3rd 2 years ago and won the last FA Cup wasn’t good enough for you. But you’re demanding that a new manager that takes over the same squad in mid season after bad results produce magic?

Fear God now.

Wicked people, they sacked the man (ETH), and they keep raining curses on him after he won them trophies .
What else do they want from him? 🤸‍♂️🤣🤣👨‍🦼