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nitrogen:
Average shelf life is 2-3 years. Reason I tell people to stop looking at long term managerial stuff.

If you have square pegs, then target square holes until you get round pegs. Not like there are only round holes everywhere.

So, you’d rather we spend another 700m to confirm that the manager is a mistake? And then you will have the same shitty excuse and requirements for the next manager. Damn!

You're the only one always talking about long term managerial stuff. No one on this thread cares about long term manager. They call for sacking quick if he doesn't show progress. Let's face those continually making bad appointments.

nitrogen:
I hope you are not expecting these guys to perform at Ronaldo/Messi level. We cannot keep blaming the players, it’s unfair especially after signing them based on their performances at other clubs.

Even the academy players are not spared. Garnacho don suffer for una hands.

As Pep is losing his mojo, it’s looking like his players are not great. Some are saying City players are old, bla bla bla, but then, the average age of City’s squad is 26-27, same as last three seasons when they the won EPL back to back to back and the UCL.

I am not going to argue Pep with you neither am I going to respond to your fallacious take on fans here.

I am one of those who always believed the players are not the problem but that argument is shaky right now as these players (the majority, not all) have shown time without number that they can not be trusted to prosecute a full season at a level that will see us challenging for top trophies. It's time to rejig the squad and hopefully, we get it right. The signing of Dorgu (his profile and attributes) excites me and I hope we go after such players going forward.

I'll advise that you be patient, let's see how the team performs after some reinforcement and a preseason together before we start asking for the head of the young Portuguese coach...

raumdeuter:
Since Amorim will stay next season, what's the minimum he has to achieve to mnow if he's a success or failure

.....for now?! Its simple. Avoid relegation at all costs. Try his best to secure UCL spot via Europa League. Fight for FA Cup but not compulsory he wins it.

MRTA7:
You're the only one always talking about long term managerial stuff. No one on this thread cares about long term manager. They call for sacking quick if he doesn't show progress. Let's face those continually making bad appointments.

The selection of coaches na gamble and tbh, you really can't fault most of the appointments made within the last 12years TBH...atleast based on form and pedigree..

Successful club dons in Europe usually prioritise permanent interests of the club over relationships and sentiments - they seldom give endless excuses for underperforming managers like we do here, neither do they advocate that the fans "suffer endlessly"

Leyqute:
Had Martinez not gotten injured we might be able to play Maz at RB.

Yes.

One of d main reason fans r angry now is our tendency of being relegated. lf we v move up a little maybe 10th or even 9th we might grumble but no biggie.Next season we restart.For us to accept Amorim shambolic performances week in week just because he did well in less competitive legue is longer acceptable.V played n watch football long enough to know sometin is terribly wrong.He doesn't seem to v chemistry with his staffs.Always aloof with blood shot eyes.Even when we scores dyin minutes goals no staffs shakes or hifive him.lf he doesn't improve next season he shud go

One of d main reason fans r angry now is our tendency of being relegated. lf we v move up a little maybe 10th or even 9th we might grumble but no biggie.Next season we restart.For us to b accepting Amorim shambolic performances week in week out just because he did well in less competitive legue is longer acceptable.V played n watch football long enough to know sometin is terribly wrong.He doesn't seem to v chemistry with his staffs.Always aloof with blood shot eyes.Even when we scores dyin minutes goals no staffs shakes or hifive him.lf he doesn't improve next season he shud go

Jamiuokolaa:
The selection of coaches na gamble and tbh, you really can't fault most of the appointments made within the last 12years TBH...atleast based on form and pedigree..

Successful club dons in Europe usually prioritise permanent interests of the club over relationships and sentiments - they seldom give endless excuses for underperforming managers like we do here, neither do they advocate that the fans "suffer endlessly"

I dont understand your post. Are you agreeing with me?

raumdeuter:
When did his tactics stop working or stopped being effective

Na so una scream say it won't work in epl yet won 6 league titles with it

When Liverpool pipped him 2-0 in his backyard

MRTA7:
I dont understand your post. Are you agreeing with me?

The hiring and firing thing is a common practice even at the most successful clubs in the world and it in no way undermines the competency of those at the helm of affairs there

engrelvis:
One of d main reason fans r angry now is our tendency of being relegated. lf we v move up a little maybe 10th or even 9th we might grumble but no biggie.Next season we restart.For us to accept Amorim shambolic performances week in week just because he did well in less competitive legue is longer acceptable.V played n watch football long enough to know sometin is terribly wrong.He doesn't seem to v chemistry with his staffs.Always aloof with blood shot eyes. Even when we scores dyin minutes goals no staffs shakes or hifive him.lf he doesn't improve next season he shud go

Jamiuokolaa:
The hiring and firing thing is a common practice even at the most successful clubs in the world and it in no way undermines the competency of those at the helm of affairs there

Of course context needs to be applied. if the hires keep failing questions will be asked. If Madrid keeps hiring a Carlos Queiroz types. Questions would be asked about who is making those decisions. Not so much for hiring and sacking Jose Mourinho after his 3rd year.

MRTA7:
Of course context needs to be applied. if the hires keep failing questions will be asked. If Madrid keeps hiring a Carlos Queiroz types. Questions would be asked about who is making those decisions. Not so much for hiring and sacking Jose Mourinho after his 3rd year.

How many years were you expecting Mou to do at Utd? Also, don’t forget that all our previous managers were the best of those available at the time, plus we saw some successes with some of the managers.

Oasis007:


.....for now?! Its simple. Avoid relegation at all costs. Try his best to secure UCL spot via Europa League. Fight for FA Cup but not compulsory he wins it.

What is the minimum requirement for the Amorim team next season? Relegation?

Leyqute:
When Liverpool pipped him 2-0 in his backyard

So the tactics stopped working today

MRTA7:
Of course context needs to be applied. if the hires keep failing questions will be asked. If Madrid keeps hiring a Carlos Queiroz types. Questions would be asked about who is making those decisions. Not so much for hiring and sacking Jose Mourinho after his 3rd year.

The apparently reduced expectations for Moyes probably because of his somewhat low pedigree and the hope that he would turn out to be another Fergie that would stay for another 25 years, to an extent, kickstarted some emotional and sentimental BS associated with the club as we speak...

In this context, Gollum's appointment is probably the only one I can pinpoint as an obvious mistake even before it happened

raumdeuter:
So the tactics stopped working today

Was it working when Amorim piped him 4-1?

Leyqute:
Antony assist

No wonder i felt one kind unusual cool and serene breeze blow through my street.

Na aura breeze be that.

Leyqute:
Antony assist

Redcard?

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Jamiuokolaa:
The hiring and firing thing is a common practice even at the most successful clubs in the world and it in no way undermines the competency of those at the helm of affairs there

Since 2016, we've had 5 coaches excluding Carrick and Ruud.

Where our own UCL and EPL. Abi na only Carabao and FA cup our own sacking dey yield?

odizeey:
Since 2016, we've had 5 coaches excluding Carrick and Ruud.

Where our own UCL and EPL. Abi na only Carabao and FA cup our own sacking dey yield?

We would continue to hire and fire till we get it right

Jamiuokolaa:
We would continue to hire and fire till we get it right

Clubs wey una dey mention dey get result o. Even Gbelsea win UCL

odizeey:
Clubs wey una dey mention dey get result o. Even Gbelsea win UCL

Na im we still dey talk na

Even with their results, them still dey hire and fire because their expectations are high - once coach no perform and no visible signs of improvement laidis, them no dey waste time at all

Unlike us, no sentiments whatsoever

Shey na Don Florentino Perez you go dey talk to about suffering or style of play ? See lopetegui and Solari's tenure lengths FFS

Maybe Perez is a bit of an extremist sha

Like i would always say : I think that Fergie reign don put some kain fantasy/unrealistic thoughts for the minds of some fans

raumdeuter:
No be the chef aka coach dey suggest players to buy abi is it coincidence that a former Ajax manager has signed like 5 former Ajax players?

That’s why the first thing I do every morning is to curse Zero Hag before brushing.

Jamiuokolaa:
The apparently reduced expectations for Moyes probably because of his somewhat low pedigree and the hope that he would turn out to be another Fergie that would stay for another 25 years, to an extent, kickstarted some emotional and sentimental BS associated with the club as we speak...

In this context, Gollum's appointment is probably the only one I can pinpoint as an obvious mistake even before it happened

Ole actually started well and got us playing some fantastic counter attacking football at some point. Ole lost it when he decided to be weak and allow laziness and indiscipline rein, appointing Maguire captain and playing him when he wasn't fit amongst many other sin committed. Ole gave Lingard, Trashford, Scamcho, Dablord and others the chance to become lazy and useless because he was a weak Manager, this players could have become great here under a SAF, PEP or Ancelotti..

Jamiuokolaa:
Na im we still dey talk na

Even with their results, them still dey hire and fire because their expectations are high - once coach no perform and no visible signs of improvement laidis, them no dey waste time at all

Unlike us, no sentiments whatsoever

Shey na Don Florentino Perez you go dey talk to about suffering or style of play ? See lopetegui and Solari's tenure lengths FFS

Maybe Perez is a bit of an extremist sha

Like i would always say : I think that Fergie reign don put some kain fantasy/unrealistic thoughts for the minds of some fans

Sacking dey favour them. Abeg, the sacking favour us?

You say Bayern have 6 different managers since 2016. We get 5 excluding Carrick and Ruud. Them make progress, where our own.

Na only Madrid be your refrence?
You buy Mbappe?
You buy Jude?
Can you even compare the difference in players?

main24:
Nitrogen

- List out current Man U players
- Explain their strength to us

Just tell him to tell you the players Amorim will use to play 4-2-2-2

Jamiuokolaa:
Na im we still dey talk na

Even with their results, them still dey hire and fire because their expectations are high - once coach no perform and no visible signs of improvement laidis, them no dey waste time at all

Unlike us, no sentiments whatsoever

Shey na Don Florentino Perez you go dey talk to about suffering or style of play ? See lopetegui and Solari's tenure lengths FFS

Maybe Perez is a bit of an extremist sha

Like i would always say : I think that Fergie reign don put some kain fantasy/unrealistic thoughts for the minds of some fans

Southampton has very high expectations too, I guess.

raumdeuter:
What is the minimum requirement for the Amorim team next season? Relegation?

Top 4 finish and any of the cups is enough for me. Anything else na to carry him bag to Portugal.

odizeey:
Sacking dey favour them. Abeg, the sacking favour us?

If you want to be successful, there is little tolerance for mediocrity and poor performances - that's the take home here..

odizeey:
Na only Madrid be your refrence?
You buy Mbappe?
You buy Jude?
Can you even compare the difference in players?

It's even worse at Madrid because Perez literally forces players on managers - if the gaffer isn't flexible enough to achieve results with whatever he meets on ground, na exit door straight!

TrebleChamp:
Ole actually started well and got us playing some fantastic counter attacking football at some point. Ole lost it when he decided to be weak and allow laziness and indiscipline rein, appointing Maguire captain and playing him when he wasn't fit amongst many other sin committed. Ole gave Lingard, Trashford, Scamcho, Dablord and others the chance to become lazy and useless because he was a weak Manager, this players could have become great here under a SAF, PEP or Ancelotti..

Dey play