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Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by Janosky: 10:36pm On Feb 23, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Voice that will raise the dead now becomes Chinese fan! cheesy
The guy dunce dey form woke.
grin grin
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by Gabrielshow24: 10:37pm On Feb 23, 2025
Now he has a problem with Jesus being asian - specifically for this example , Chinese.

After all one records of him as coming with a fan🤔.

The JW didn't do well, they stopped at equating Jesus to an Archangel but failed to equate him to a fan🤔 perhaps it was nothing but absurdity in the first place👀

Using their self same logic🤨 if it's good for the goose it's good for the gander🥲- Jesus is a fan🤔

Foolish set of fools🥲!!!, bloody hypocrites.
Only choose scriptures that fit their narratives.
Only apply logical reasoning that fits them.

Center of false equivocations!!!
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by immaculatesense(m): 10:38pm On Feb 23, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The Holy Spirit will TEACH a small group who will dispense the teaching to the rest.
For instance in the first century there was a problem regarding the case of fellow believers who are not circumcised whether they are qualified members of the congregation or they must join their fellow believers who has been circumcised as Judaists before convertion to be counted as bonafide members of the congregation.
If the Holy Spirit is to teach each person back then how can Christians in all lands agree?
Because of arguments here and there each person quoting the scriptures to back their opinion the matter was taken to Jerusalem where the Governing Body (Apostles and Older men) prayed over the matter, God's Holy Spirit led them and their conclusion was sent to all the congregations. Act 15:1-29

If holy spirit was teaching each person how can that be possible for the entire association of believers to become One just as Jesus prayed? John 17:22 smiley
You only amplified what I said about Acts 15. The only area you should but u don't want to angry is that the Holy Spirit resides in the heart of every true believer and he directs and guides them into all truth. How will even an elder teach the congregation if he himself has not been taught by the spirit? Why will Paul lay claim that he has received his message from no one but from Christ himself through revelation even though he didn't see Christ in his earthly ministry. Galatians 1 proves this that the Holy spirit teaches man without human interference even though fellowship is Key. Or
Maxim, will you interprete Paul's testimony to the Galatians to me in Galatians 1. The whole chapter but let me just drop some verses.

Galatians 1:12,16-19
[12]I received my message from no human source, and no one taught me. Instead, I received it by direct revelation from Jesus Christ.
[16]to reveal his Son to me so that I would proclaim the Good News about Jesus to the Gentiles.When this happened, I did not rush out to consult with any human being.
[17]Nor did I go up to Jerusalem to consult with those who were apostles before I was. Instead, I went away into Arabia, and later I returned to the city of Damascus.
[18]Then three years later I went to Jerusalem to get to know Peter, and I stayed with him for fifteen days.
[19]The only other apostle I met at that time was James, the Lord’s brother.

Thanks
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:39pm On Feb 23, 2025
Janosky:
The guy dunce dey form woke.
grin grin
Bible talked about VOICE that will raise the dead but disobedience made your friend to change the narrative to Chinese fan! cheesy
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by Gabrielshow24: 10:45pm On Feb 23, 2025
Janosky:
Hebrew lexicon 259 translated One @ Daniel 10:13, @Genesis 4:19 @ Genesis 10:25 @1 chronicles 1:19.
Genesis 4:19
New International Version
Lamech married two women, one named Adah and the other Zillah.

New Living Translation
Lamech married two women. The first was named Adah, and the second was Zillah"

Hebrew lexicon 259 ehad meaning FIRST @ Daniel 10:13 @ Genesis 10:25 @ 1 Chronicles 1:19.
Screenshot evidence

Archangel Michael is the First (Oga of Angels), the Commander of Yahweh's Army. Confirmed.

Oga, carry your ignorance out of this forum.
You no know anything but you dey make empty rants.
grin grin
No one disputes that ehad has different meanings one of which is "first" 🤨

Now, you are using The same old switcheroo on word meanings. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Indeed that will not help you 😌, whether first or not, you still have the problem of how other archangels became archangels🤨 or perhaps they too took on human flesh at some point🤨? Who knows one might have been Moses🤔?

Perhaps Uriel was Ezra👀 in flesh🙃
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:45pm On Feb 23, 2025
immaculatesense:
You only amplified what I said about Acts 15. The only area you should but u don't want to angry is that the Holy Spirit resides in the heart of every true believer and he directs and guides them into all truth. How will even an elder teach the congregation if he himself has not been taught by the spirit? Why will Paul lay claim that he has received his message from no one but from Christ himself through revelation even though he didn't see Christ in his earthly ministry. Galatians 1 proves this that the Holy spirit teaches man without human interference even though fellowship is Key. Or
Maxim, will you interprete Paul's testimony to the Galatians to me in Galatians 1. The whole chapter but let me just drop some verses.
I just helped you to figure out why there is contradictions among you people it's because God's Holy Spirit doesn't TEACH individuals otherwise there's no need for shepherds and teachers in the church teaching their fellow believers! wink

immaculatesense:
Galatians 1:12,16-19
[12]I received my message from no human source, and no one taught me. Instead, I received it by direct revelation from Jesus Christ.
[16]to reveal his Son to me so that I would proclaim the Good News about Jesus to the Gentiles.When this happened, I did not rush out to consult with any human being.
[17]Nor did I go up to Jerusalem to consult with those who were apostles before I was. Instead, I went away into Arabia, and later I returned to the city of Damascus.
[18]Then three years later I went to Jerusalem to get to know Peter, and I stayed with him for fifteen days.
[19]The only other apostle I met at that time was James, the Lord’s brother.
Thanks
Jesus appointed Paul directly but when it comes to teachings Paul relied on what the Apostles and Older men concluded in Jerusalem! Act 16:3-4 smiley
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by Janosky: 10:48pm On Feb 23, 2025
tctrills:
The entire JW religion was born out of dark rebellion.
They rebelled against bible truths and now they accuse you.
Tctrills, the man denying Psalms 103 :20 Yahweh's voice & denying Yahweh's angel,Jesus Christ performing the words of our heavenly Father @ John 14:24.

He go dey seat for front pew as if the holy scriptures reach him heart .
Tueh !
grin
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:50pm On Feb 23, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
other archangels.
How many Archangels is found in the Bible? smiley
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by Janosky: 10:54pm On Feb 23, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
No one disputes that ehad has different meanings one of which is "first" 🤨

Now, you are using The same old switcheroo on word meanings. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Indeed that will not help you 😌, whether first or not, you still have the problem of how other archangels became archangels🤨 or perhaps they too took on human flesh at some point🤨? Who knows one might have been Moses🤔?

Perhaps Uriel was Ezra👀 in flesh🙃
You have seen the evidence in the holy scripture, but you don't want that.

Please Go and change "Ehad" @ Daniel 10:13 @Genesis 4:19 @Genesis 10:25 to suit your whims.

grin grin
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by Janosky: 11:01pm On Feb 23, 2025
tctrills:
Philippians 2:6-11
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

What do we learn,
That Christ had the form of God and Christ is = God.

Yet he humbled himself and took the form of a servant and was made like unto man.

I guess this verse answers the question about if Christ is = to God.
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The form of man is human.
The form of God is spirit.
You love ADDING your maggi seasoning to the holy scriptures. grin

Bill Mounce Phillipian 2:6 Greek word for word Interlinear debunked your Trinitarian crafted rendition.

Bill Mounce is a Trinitarian like yourself, don't forget.
Oga , just go and verify.
Don't deceive yourself with fake rendition of the Bible.
grin
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by Gabrielshow24: 11:01pm On Feb 23, 2025
Janosky:
You have seen the evidence in the holy scripture, but you don't want that.

Please Go and change "Ehad" @ Daniel 10:13 @Genesis 4:19 @Genesis 10:25 to suit your whims.

grin grin
That's a rather suiting narrative to fit ehad to mean first when in fact in that form it means "one", if the context were to be of time then "first" will be applicable/suitable but you fools🤔 failed to take that into consideration but took along whatsoever will make your boat sink!!!
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by Gabrielshow24: 11:02pm On Feb 23, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
How many Archangels is found in the Bible? smiley
The absence of others doesn't make your statement true!!!

Appeal to ignorance 🤨.

What you're trying to say is that absence of evidence is evidence that Michael is the only Archangel in heaven.

Which is inherently fallacious after all there are other chief princes(archangels) in the bible👀
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by Gabrielshow24: 11:08pm On Feb 23, 2025
Janosky:
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The form of man is human.
The form of God is spirit.
You love ADDING your maggi seasoning to the holy scriptures. grin

Bill Mounce Phillipian 2:6 Greek word for word Interlinear debunked your Trinitarian crafted rendition.

Bill Mounce is a Trinitarian like yourself, don't forget.
Oga , just go and verify.
Don't deceive yourself with fake rendition of the Bible.
grin
So far you have achieved nothing, all your premises are based on presuppositions and equivocations,

I wonder why you're not calling Jesus a fan🤔 or perhaps a sickle🤨 after all revelation says of him holding a sickle👀
Or perhaps a staff🤔?

What's wrong? 🤨
Are these absurd😁?
Now you know what FALSE EQUIVOCATION is!!!

🙃🙃🙃
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:10pm On Feb 23, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
The absence of others doesn't make your statement true!!!

Appeal to ignorance 🤨.

What you're trying to say is that absence of evidence is evidence that Michael is the only Archangel in heaven.

Which is inherently fallacious after all there are other chief princes(archangels) in the bible👀
So in a nutshell only one Archangel is mentioned throughout the Bible.

Thanks! cheesy
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by immaculatesense(m): 11:12pm On Feb 23, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
I just helped you to figure out why there is contradictions among you people it's because God's Holy Spirit doesn't TEACH individuals otherwise there's no need for shepherds and teachers in the church teaching their fellow believers! wink



Jesus appointed Paul directly but when it comes to teachings Paul relied on what the Apostles and Older men concluded in Jerusalem! Act 16:3-4 smiley
Your first point:
Who guides the Human Shepard? What is the role of the Holy Spirit to individual believers?

Your second point:
Paul did not rely on the other apostle. He only relied in the spirit of God in him. Galatians 2 proved that. Read it yourself.
Galatians 2:6
[6]And the leaders of the church had nothing to add to what I was preaching. (By the way, their reputation as great leaders made no difference to me, for God has no favorites.)

Also, Paul did not seem to agree with some of the decision James made in Acts 15, most especially on food offered to idol because Paul taught the Corinthians otherwise in 1 Corinthians 8. And even James accused Paul of teaching against the resolution in Act 15 in Acts 21:17-25.

All these are irrefutable proofs that the Holy Spirit is the most reliable teacher and guide for all true Christians. Not those who lied against the spirit to distirt the truth of the scriptures anyways, but the true followers.
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by Janosky: 11:12pm On Feb 23, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
That's a rather suiting narrative to fit ehad to mean first when in fact in that form it means "one", if the context were to be of time then "first" will be applicable/suitable but you fools🤔 failed to take that into consideration but took along whatsoever will make your boat sink!!!

Please provide evidence of your certification in Greek or feel free to insult yourself.

But you can't change the bolded portion of the screenshot evidence of Genesis 4:19.
Where "Ehad" referenced living beings, @ Genesis 4:19
@Genesis 10:25 @ Daniel 10:13, 1 Chronicles 1:19,
"Ehad" meaning FIRST.


Please Just continue confirming your folly.

Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by Janosky: 11:15pm On Feb 23, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
So far you have achieved nothing, all your premises are based on presuppositions and equivocations,

I wonder why you're not calling Jesus a fan🤔 or perhaps a sickle🤨 after all revelation says of him holding a sickle👀
Or perhaps a staff🤔?

What's wrong? 🤨
Are these absurd😁?
Now you know what FALSE EQUIVOCATION is!!!

🙃🙃🙃
Someone is in Sifia pains.
Empty WAILING WAILER.

grin grin grin grin
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by Gabrielshow24: 11:16pm On Feb 23, 2025
Janosky:

Please provide evidence of your certification in Greek or feel free to insult yourself.

But you can't change the bolded portion of the screenshot evidence of Genesis 4:19.
Where "Ehad" referenced living beings, @ Genesis 4:19
@Genesis 10:25 @ Daniel 10:13, 1 Chronicles 1:19,
"Ehad" meaning FIRST.


Please Just continue confirming your folly.
You keep showing your foolishness for all to see!!!

Is that not "one" you highlighted🤦🏾‍♂️?
Most of the biblical translations use "one" but some wannabe🤧 nairaland fool suggests "first" because in some context ehad can be interpreted as such!!!

Even the tanakh doesn't use "first" for its translation, it's "one".

Foolishness is bliss🤤
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:18pm On Feb 23, 2025
immaculatesense:
Your first point:
Who guides the Human Shepard? What is the role of the Holy Spirit to individual believers?
To remind me what i have been taught, the scripture, chapter, verse and how i was taught to apply it.

immaculatesense:
Your second point:
Paul did not rely on the other apostle. He only relied in the spirit of God in him. Galatians 2 proved that. Read it yourself.
Galatians 2:6
[6]And the leaders of the church had nothing to add to what I was preaching. (By the way, their reputation as great leaders made no difference to me, for God has no favorites.)

Also, Paul did not seem to agree with some of the decision James made in Acts 15, most especially on food offered to idol because Paul taught the Corinthians otherwise in 1 Corinthians 8. And even James accused Paul of teaching against the resolution in Act 15 in Acts 21:17-25.

All these are irrefutable proofs that the Holy Spirit is the most reliable teacher and guide for all true Christians. Not those who lied against the spirit to distirt the truth of the scriptures anyways, but the true followers.
Please don't lie against the scriptures there is no disagreement among the shepherds regarding doctrine and teaching! undecided
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by Gabrielshow24: 11:20pm On Feb 23, 2025
And to the other fool, I beg to differ🤧,
Chief princes are after all archangels🤨.

Whether they are 1 million or 1 trillion, they've all been mentioned collectively🤨.
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:25pm On Feb 23, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
And to the other fool, I beg to differ🤧,
Chief princes are after all archangels🤨.
Whether they are 1 million or 1 trillion, they've all been mentioned collectively🤨.
OK Archangel is the same as Chief princes yet only one Archangel is heading all the armies in heaven.

Thanks! smiley
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by Gabrielshow24: 11:36pm On Feb 23, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
OK Archangel angel is the same as Chief princes yet only one Archangel is heading all the armies in heaven.

Thanks! smiley
🤔Hmm, does that mean the Nigerian chief of army is one and the same as the Tinubu?

Or perhaps your feeble mind didn't accommodate for separation of concerns?

Also your favorite book is littered with different princes, supervising 🤨 nations!!!

You allude to nothing more but the supervisor of the Nation of Israel🤨.

And as regards the captain of the Lord's host, there is no substantial definitive proof to equate such to Michael except with egregious logical leaps🤧

Your premise is filled with holes, I could poke holes all day 🥲, this is just too easy🙃.

Jesus said if he willed his father could send him twelve legions of angels🤔, I wonder how a legion will come and their legates missing🙃.

At this point, I wonder what this legates will be called🤔, perhaps archangels👀 - who knows? Michael, after all would have been the first legate👀
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by tctrills: 11:39pm On Feb 23, 2025
Janosky:
.
The form of man is human.
The form of God is spirit.
You love ADDING your maggi seasoning to the holy scriptures. grin

Bill Mounce Phillipian 2:6 Greek word for word Interlinear debunked your Trinitarian crafted rendition.

Bill Mounce is a Trinitarian like yourself, don't forget.
Oga , just go and verify.
Don't deceive yourself with fake rendition of the Bible.
grin
Oga go and learn to speak English and express yourself
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Now Jesus Christ has human form so what exactly is your point. He has a body of flesh and bones like a human.
Now explain what the Greek word for Interlinear has to do with anything. You will just copy and paste like an illiterate.
Oga how can we communicate if you choose not to make sense.
Now like someone that went to school, explain where you believe I got the translation wrong. Which words did I get wrong and what are the correct words in their place.
Again if you provide the words of one scholar and I provide the writing of another how do we decide who is wrong.

Now, you asked me to verify.
Below are the argument of Greek scholars.
I bolded a section for you to read if you can't read the entire. So don't bring Greek scholars works to me if you don't understand them.


Following this interpretation of harpagmon, scholars such as James D.G. Dunn and Oscar Cullman suggest the author may be drawing a parallel between Adam and Jesus, who in other Pauline literature is called the Last Adam. The first Adam was made in the "image of God" (Genesis 1:26) but sinned by trying to grasp equality with God (Genesis 3:5). In contrast, Jesus, also made in the image of God (Phil. 2:5) did not try to grasp equality with God, but instead, humbled himself in obedience to God. Dunn sees the hymn as an archetypal parallel to Genesis: "The Philippians hymn is an attempt to read the life and work of Christ through the grid of Adam theology... the hymn is the epochal significance of the Christ-event, as determinative for humankind as the 'event' of Adam's creation and fall... Christ by his life, death, and resurrection has so completely reversed the catastrophe of Adam, has done so by the acceptance of death by choice rather than as punishment, as has thus completed the role of dominion over all things originally intended for Adam... It was Adam who was 'in the form of God'... the language was used... to bring out that Adamic character of Christ's life, death, and resurrection. So archetypal was Jesus' work in its effect that it can be described in language appropriate to archetypal man and as a reversal of the archetypal sin."

Although scholars remain divided on the question of the pre-existent Christ's equality with God, it is widely agreed by interpreters that the Christ poem depicts Jesus as equal to God after his resurrection
. This is because the last two stanzas quote Isaiah 45:22–23:[50] ("Every knee shall bow, every tongue confess"wink, which in the original context clearly refers to God the Father.[42] Some scholars argue that Philippians 2:6–11 identifies Jesus with God from his pre-existence on the basis that allusions to Isaiah 45:22–23 are present all throughout the poem.[51]

You brought up the Greek scholars argument so do you agree with majority of scholars that say Jesus was equal to God after his resurrection?
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:43pm On Feb 23, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
🤔Hmm, does that mean the Nigerian chief of army is one and the same as the Tinubu?
The scriptures says Archangel Michael leads the heavenly armies of loyal spirit sons of God while Satan leads all rebellious angels {Revelations 12:7} the same Bible says it's the WORD of God {John 1:1} who leads all the armies in heaven to the final battle with blood stains all over his clothes {Revelations 19:13} that's clear enough! smiley
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by immaculatesense(m): 11:45pm On Feb 23, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
To remind me what i have been taught, the scripture, chapter, verse and how i was taught to apply it.



Please don't lie against the scriptures there is no disagreement among the shepherds regarding doctrine and teaching! undecided
That's why I said Maxim, you still have a lot to learn about church history even from the Apostles days. So, you do not know the difference in Paul and James views on Salvation and Judaism.
That's why I advised that you need to broading your views. For a start, read Romans 4 and James 2:14 downwards and analyze to yourself Paul and James views on Genesis 15:6 and how James reanalyzed Paul's teaching to the Romans on Faith and works and Abraham's righteousness. Then link it to Paul's description of James friends when he rebuked Peter in Galatians 2:11-14.
Thanks.
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by Gabrielshow24: 11:51pm On Feb 23, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The scriptures says Archangel Michael leads the heavenly armies of loyal spirit sons of God while Satan leads all rebellious angels {Revelations 12:7} the same Bible says it's the WORD of God {John 1:1} who leads all the armies in heaven to the final battle with blood stains all over his clothes {Revelations 19:13} that's clear enough! smiley
That's clear enough👀?, when some verses before, Jesus was born and taken to the Father 🤨...

Do you see how foolish you sound🤔?
The word of God with a sword in his mouth 🤤.

Where do angels keep their sword by the way🤔?

In their mouth? 🤨
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by tctrills: 11:54pm On Feb 23, 2025
Janosky:
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The form of man is human.
The form of God is spirit.
You love ADDING your maggi seasoning to the holy scriptures. grin

Bill Mounce Phillipian 2:6 Greek word for word Interlinear debunked your Trinitarian crafted rendition.

Bill Mounce is a Trinitarian like yourself, don't forget.
Oga , just go and verify.
Don't deceive yourself with fake rendition of the Bible.
grin
I have replied to you in my earlier post but I continued to do more research. You recommended the writings of Bill Mounce so i did some reading and here are the thoughts of the scholar on the subject.
This word is particularly challenging to translate, and Mounce provides valuable clarity. He helps to illuminate the idea that Jesus, although being in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be exploited or selfishly retained.  
Essentially, that Jesus did not need to grasp at equality with God, because he already had it.

Based on the information available, particularly regarding Bill Mounce's analysis of Philippians 2:6, it's clear that he supports the understanding that Jesus possessed equality with God. His reasoning stems primarily from his interpretation of the Greek text:

"Morphē" (Form):
Mounce emphasizes that "morphē" signifies the inherent nature of something. Therefore, when Philippians 2:6 states that Jesus was "in the form of God," it indicates that he possessed the very nature of God. This implies essential equality.
"Harpagmos" (A Thing to Be Grasped):
His interpretation of "harpagmos" is key. He clarifies that the verse doesn't mean Jesus was trying to seize equality, but rather that he already possessed it. Jesus did not consider his existing equality with God as something to be exploited.  
 
Contextual Understanding:
Mounce's analysis is done within the context of the overall passage, which highlights Jesus's humility. This humility is shown by him, though being in the form of God, and having equality with God, that he emptied himself, and took on the form of a servant. This act of humility presupposes that he had something, equality with God, that he could give up.
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:57pm On Feb 23, 2025
immaculatesense:
That's why I said Maxim, you still have a lot to learn about church history even from the Apostles days. So, you do not know the difference in Paul and James views on Salvation and Judaism.
That's why I advised that you need to broading your views. For a start, read Romans 4 and James 2:14 downwards and analyze to yourself Paul and James views on Genesis 15:6 and how James reanalyzed Paul's teaching to the Romans on Faith and works and Abraham's righteousness. Then link it to Paul's description of James friends when he rebuked Peter in Galatians 2:11-14.
Thanks.
You misconstrued the whole thing!

Paul talked about faith in Jesus' teachings against faith in the works of the mosaic laws {Romans 10:4} James talked about those claiming faith in Christ but aren't doing the WORKS Jesus assigned to his disciples.

According to Paul someone who based his salvation on the laws of Moses is not saved {Luke 18:18-23} James based his letter on the WORKS Jesus assigned which some doesn't feel is necessary as they thought Jesus' death has given them direct Visa to God's Kingdom when they refused to do the work he assigned to his faithful disciples! Matthew 28:19-20

So my guy you didn't get it at all both of them are on the same page!
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by Gabrielshow24: 12:04am On Feb 24, 2025
These are the implications of a not thought out doctrine🤔.

Now he has to think, and use his brain cells🤨 which he didn't use before🥲

Jesus ,as a clear distinction, is the only being in the bible with a sword in his mouth, not in his hands👀 but yet somehow he is equal to an angel whose fashion choice is wielding a sword with his hands🤔.

Perhaps Jesus wielding of the sword is nothing but a fashion choice👀; he must have thought

"On this day, I must wield it in my mouth!!! "

Or the rather simple conclusion that he is not Michael!!!?

Others need tools to defend themselves and others, He(Jesus) has the WORD!!!!! or rather put is the WORD.
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:10am On Feb 24, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
These are the implications of a not thought out doctrine.
How can this be possible when all of you are contradicting yourself? smiley
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by tctrills: 12:10am On Feb 24, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
So in a nutshell only one Archangel is mentioned throughout the Bible.

Thanks! cheesy
This is the reasoning of a duck. One Archangel is mentioned in the bible so it must be Jesus Christ. How did you come to such a conclusion? Please provide your reasoning steps.
Re: Joseph Had The Same Authority As Jesus.. by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:17am On Feb 24, 2025
tctrills:
This is the reasoning of a duck. One Archangel is mentioned in the bible so it must be Jesus Christ. How did you come to such a conclusion? Please provide your reasoning steps.
Come next time! smiley
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