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Gabrielshow24:
➜Are you a fool? Isn't the judgement not to separate sheep from goats? 🤨 Heaven - Hell !!! What then are you alluding to? 👀

If a judgement (1) is to first take place to determine whether one who is
➜first an Israelite (2) and
➜second, a follower of Jesus Christ of Israel (3)
.... is either a sheep or a goat, how in the world can you then proclaim the outcome to be predetermined?

Gabrielshow24:
➜My entire premise is not on predetermination!!! Op brought concepts of "overheads" or predetermined outcomes in the form of "Heaven" and "Hell" and using this hoped to disprove free will!!! I gave analogies to show otherwise!!!
The same Jesus that told us to go into the world and make disciples of all nations!!!
➜You are indeed a liar! Selective bias is someone taking what soothes him or her!!! That verse you quoted is completely out of context!!! And it's becoming rather evident you have nothing useful to contribute!!!

1. Again, they were terrible analogies! 🙄🙄

2. Please stop using terms you do not understand their meaning or application. If everything I stated is in fact as found in the book, and not taken out of context, how can it be stated that I exercised selection bias? 🙄🙄

Kobojunkie:
If a Judgement (1) is to first take place in order to determine whether one who is
➜first an Israelite (2) and
➜second, a follower of Jesus Christ of Israel (3)
.... is either a sheep or a goat, how in the world can you then proclaim the outcome to be predetermined?

Are you are fool?
The outcome is predetermined because God intend that those that serve him - sheep - will be in Heaven with him.
While those that do not serve him - goats - will perish in hell.

It's just like playing a football game and then asking how the results are not predetermined!!!

Don't you know that the outcomes of the game can only be win, loss or draw🤨!!!

You keep exhibiting foolishness for the world to see👀; it's becoming rather appalling!!!

Kobojunkie:
1. Again, they were terrible analogies! 🙄🙄

2. Please stop using terms you do not understand their meaning or application. If everything I stated is in fact as found in the book, and not taken out of context, how can it be stated that I exercised selection bias? 🙄🙄

I'm not interested in your opinion!!!
My aim was to address the op's sentiments!!!

As regards selective bias, you are rather misrepresenting Jesus' words to fit your narrative and in fact took it out of context!!!

The entire scripture is littered with God gathering/drawing all of mankind to him!!!

You are just here to troll and have nothing useful to say!!!

Gabrielshow24:
➜Are you are fool? The outcome is predetermined because God intend that those that serve him - sheep - will be in Heaven with him. While those that do not serve him - goats - will perish in hell. It's just like playing a football game and then asking how the results are not predetermined!!! Don't you know that the outcomes of the game can only be win, loss or draw🤨!!!
You keep exhibiting foolishness for the world to see👀; it's becoming rather appalling!!!

Wetin be this foolishness, abeg! 🤔

Gabrielshow24:
➜I'm not interested in your opinion!!! My aim was to address the op's sentiments!!! As regards selective bias, you are rather misrepresenting Jesus' words to fit your narrative and in fact took it out of context!!! The entire scripture is littered with God gathering/drawing all of mankind to him!!! You are just here to troll and have nothing useful to say!!!

LOL... So, you ignore all the explicit statements made by the same book by YHWH — He literally declared Himself God of Israel alone after He created His nation of Israel— proclaiming that Mankind is not His target? Religion is indeed a scam! 😂😂😂😂

Kobojunkie:
Wetin be this foolishness, abeg! 🤔

I don't have your time🤣🤣🤣.
Your foolishness is uncanny🤕.

Gabrielshow24:
➜I don't have your time Your foolishness is uncanny🤕.

Your foolishness is instead what is documented here. You kept spewing tripe, expecting us to consider it all gold for some odd reason. 😏😏😏

Gabrielshow24:
Does it matter, you have free will to choose your outcome!!!

That's the entire point, whether it's forced or not!!!

It's out of your expression to decide your own fate!!!

Be shot, or forsake all and live!!!

Then you don't understand the definition and meaning of free will.

Concept of free will:
Free will signifies the capacity to make choices without external constraints or compulsion, allowing individuals to decide based on their own desires and reasoning.

by definition, free will cannot exist if there is coercion to choose, as coercion implies being forced or heavily influenced to make a decision, directly contradicting the idea of freely making a choice based on one's own will. It is not free when it is forced. Why do you think the word "free" is placed before "will"?

Nnamdipapa:
Then you don't understand the definition and meaning of free will.

Freewill from God's standpoint only apply when you are alone not when you have to deal with others.
You can say or do whatever you want but once it has to do with someone else you are no longer (absolutely) free because your word or action will affect others either for good or bad.
So in order to promote happiness, peace and love in any community we need a SUPREME BEING who is wiser than all of us for guidance! Isaiah 48:17-18

Nnamdipapa:
What you call "free will" is actually an ultimatum: Accept me or burn forever.
The same types of bogus free will that exist when you decide to hand over your cash to a robber who has a gun pointed at your head.

By your logic, the government threaten you to obey the law because if you don't you are going to jail.
The schools threaten student to go to school because if they don't they won't be given certificate, parents threaten their children to obey them because if they don't then there will be repercussions. You leave by threat if you don't do them there would be one repercussion or the other. In fact you threatened your wife to marry you else she wouldn't be qith you in your house.