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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 2:13pm On Mar 09, 2025
engrelvis:
lol... no don't sell dem o. Give dem time to grow. They will turn prime Messi n Ronaldo in d future grin.
🤣🤣🤣

Na Glazers dey give those players mind. INEOS had better set things straight. Put these average joes in their place and watch the rot drain away from the club.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 2:16pm On Mar 09, 2025
Oasis007:
"In terms of the results - it's bad. Also the performances are not improving a lot, to be honest, but the good thing is that we are learning a lot.

"We are changing a lot of things but you cannot see it. Here in Carrington, the way we want to do things. I'm understanding the players and doing, in my head, what is the future of the squad.

"And that can be really important next year, but there is also a risk, when you are planning and doing and thinking to the future, you have to pay attention to the present. And the present is really hard in the moment because the results and the performances are not there."


- Rúben Amorim
He has seen that many of these players don’t have a future here. 🤣

He doesn’t even like mingling with them during training like that like that again sef grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 2:19pm On Mar 09, 2025
Leyqute:
Even when he came on, he didn’t do jack. We should sell Garnacho if Napoli brings 50m. Even Mainoo sef. All these unnecessary ego from players who never make am… I’m tired of it.
I was even looking for him on the field to see what has improved in his play.

Like you said we're not at that place where some think they're bigger than the others. They must all see themselves as equal
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 2:20pm On Mar 09, 2025
Spy360:
Man United fans cry all the time. You guys love to cry. You cry about everything. Now you also have a manager who cries a lot. He cried about all his players. Now he is crying about the academy players that they have small pricks. What a dickhead. undecided
Ironic that this is coming from an Arsenal fan, a club that has gone trophyless for the last half decade. You guys don’t wait for match days before you cry. And look at you running to come and cry on a Man Utd thread. 😀
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 2:21pm On Mar 09, 2025
ChristineC:
I agree to an extent.
for me, his contract shouldn't be negotiated till the end of next season let's properly assess if his first season was a flash; and if it's absolutely necessary right now, he should be put on at least £30k less than Amad or he can walk.
We should be negotiating player contracts with the mind of what we are guaranteed to get from them, not potential or whatever promise they hold for the future.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 2:23pm On Mar 09, 2025
eph12:
I'll do some search and look for a YouTube video for you. I haven't watched any before but I'm sure I can find a couple.
So you don't even know the components, style of players needed or anything about the Amorimball you are advocating for?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Doctorova(m): 2:23pm On Mar 09, 2025
Predict Man U vs Arsenal correct score and win 100k
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 2:24pm On Mar 09, 2025
eph12:
I was even looking for him on the field to see what has improved in his play.

Like you said we're not at that place where some think they're bigger than the others. They must all see themselves as equal
It’s the only way to go. Team over individual player. Let’s see what they’re going to do today against Arsenal.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 2:31pm On Mar 09, 2025
We have seen this dance before. 3 seasons from now, 600million plus spent on getting 10 plus new players and under a new coach when Amorim would have probably been sacked, we will be here having the same discussion on how the squad is average,bad and the new coach needs his own set of players to do anything tangible. Rinse and repeat.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 2:41pm On Mar 09, 2025
Leyqute:
You can’t sign a new coach mid-season and blame bad lethargic performances on his “new style “ when the same players have been churning out bad performances with the old styles they have been playing for years.
What is the point of getting a new coach mid season if it's not to implement his new style to boost the current performance of the team? I really don't understand this argument. Rather than improving we have gotten even worst. We should have just sticked with Ten hagg then if we wanted the same level of performance to continue and get him new players since it's the squad and not the coach/tactics.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 2:50pm On Mar 09, 2025
Leyqute:
🤣🤣🤣

Na Glazers dey give those players mind. INEOS had better set things straight. Put these average joes in their place and watch the rot drain away from the club.
Erasmus shud b our first sale. His positioning n awareness is alarming. Using YouTube videos to rate footballers ( by fans)before they r bought shud b ban grin. l remember watching Ajax Anthony YouTube video n l taught we v found our Messi. Seriously Obi shud gradually b ease into our first team. Na lack of confidence finish am for our last match otherwise his positioning was awesome. To hear some people say players dnt pass to Erasmus is laughable. We all saw chances Obi created for himself in Fulham match
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 2:59pm On Mar 09, 2025
Bombblacks:
What is the point of getting a new coach mid season if it's not to implement his new style to boost the current performance of the team? I really don't understand this argument. Rather than improving we have gotten even worst. We should have just sticked with Ten hagg then if we wanted the same level of performance to continue and get him new players since it's the squad and not the coach/tactics.
We could’ve done that, yes. And that’s what I thought they were doing when they didn’t sack him and the results were not improving.

Irrespective of the coach situation, the truth stands. This squad is average at best, and needs serious strengthening to compete at the top level.

In your own opinion, do you think we recruited well? How would you rate our last 5 summer windows in terms of quality of recruit and value for money?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 3:01pm On Mar 09, 2025
Bombblacks:
So you don't even know the components, style of players needed or anything about the Amorimball you are advocating for?
Why stress myself when it's everywhere online? Nothing I say that will make you change your mind about Amorim so I'm not sure why I should bother. The only thing that can convince you is results which is not a bad thing
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 3:02pm On Mar 09, 2025
engrelvis:
Erasmus shud b our first sale. His positioning n awareness is alarming. Using YouTube videos to rate footballers ( by fans)before they r bought shud b ban grin. l remember watching Ajax Anthony YouTube video n l taught we v found our Messi. Seriously Obi shud gradually b ease into our first team. Na lack of confidence finish am for our last match otherwise his positioning was awesome. To hear some people say players dnt pass to Erasmus is laughable. We all saw chances Obi created for himself in Fulham match
I think Erasmus should be doing far better by now. If we get rid of him in the summer, I won’t bat an eyelid. But I also think he isn’t irredeemable. His finishing isn’t bad and he’s got agility. He just need to improve in other major areas of his game.

Like I said, I won’t bat an eyelid if we get rid of him.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 3:04pm On Mar 09, 2025
kizolo:
Some fans think the players are automatically better than other players because they play for Manchester United. Players too also think they are world class once they sign or have been playing for Manchester United
I remember when Mourinho said those players that leave, we need to check where they play and if they even play. Most end up in smaller clubs and they hardly play. We don't even hear about them anymore
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 3:08pm On Mar 09, 2025
Leyqute:
He has seen that many of these players don’t have a future here. 🤣

He doesn’t even like mingling with them during training like that like that again sef grin
grin

......a dude quoted you above that the essence of hiring Amorim mid-season is bending dried fishes. LOL!

Like dem be academy players hence must be taught how to do basics yet collecting huge wages week in week out.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 3:21pm On Mar 09, 2025
Leyqute:
We could’ve done that, yes. And that’s what I thought they were doing when they didn’t sack him and the results were not improving.

Irrespective of the coach situation, the truth stands. This squad is average at best, and needs serious strengthening to compete at the top level.

In your own opinion, do you think we recruited well? How would you rate our last 5 summer windows in terms of quality of recruit and value for money?
The squad even being average at best according to your words is not a 10th to 20th place team. The Manager and the team are greatly underperforming.


At the time of those recruitment what was the general conscious here. Were people happy and satisfied or not ? That's how you judge a window not looking back 3 to 5years with insight. We have spent lots in these past 5 years and if we haven't gotten value for money then it's down to the coaches who were given the players they asked for and couldn't use them.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 3:28pm On Mar 09, 2025
eph12:
Why stress myself when it's everywhere online? Nothing I say that will make you change your mind about Amorim so I'm not sure why I should bother. The only thing that can convince you is results which is not a bad thing
Before you back a coach despite having poor results you must have seen something from his previous teams to give you the confidence that yes, if backed with his players he will turn good or you have seen something from his current team that he is trying to implement which is not working due to not having his players for that style.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 3:31pm On Mar 09, 2025
Oasis007:
grin

......a dude quoted you above that the essence of hiring Amorim mid-season is bending dried fishes. LOL!

Like dem be academy players hence must be taught how to do basics yet collecting huge wages week in week out.
Loool.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 3:42pm On Mar 09, 2025
engrelvis:
lt seems we v to import aliens from other planet to play this almighty Amorimball. Rubbish. lf he cannot implement his style of play den he shud relocate . We r wastin time
I am certain if anyone had said Notthingham Forest, Brighton, Fulham , Bournemouth etc had a better squad than United before the season started most here would rained insult on that person but now we are suppose to believe the squad is not good enough for even a top 10 finish. Now we need 10 to 15 new players to finish above the likes of Bournemouth and Fulham.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 3:49pm On Mar 09, 2025
Bombblacks:
The squad even being average at best according to your words is not a 10th to 20th place team. The Manager and the team are greatly underperforming.
Playing for Man Utd doesn’t automatically make you better than other teams.

If you get outplayed and overworked by average teams - Newcastle, Fulham and Crystal Palace, you deserve to lose.

At the time of those recruitment what was the general conscious here. Were people happy and satisfied or not ? That's how you judge a window not looking back 3 to 5years with insight. We have spent lots in these past 5 years and if we haven't gotten value for money then it's down to the coaches who were given the players they asked for and couldn't use them.
Wrong. You can be happy or sad about a signing but that’s immaterial. The only way to know if a player is a good signing is gauging their performances 1-2 years after you’ve signed them..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 3:51pm On Mar 09, 2025
Bombblacks:
Before you back a coach despite having poor results you must have seen something from his previous teams to give you the confidence that yes, if backed with his players he will turn good or you have seen something from his current team that he is trying to implement which is not working due to not having his players for that style.
You know what I'm not backing?
1. Hojlund loses almost every ball sent to him. He can't hold off any defender and protect his ball. This has nothing to do with Amorimball or formation
2. Onana making silly mistakes including conceding directly from corner
3. Maguire pulling attackers shirt in the box or failing to properly set offside trap
4. Dalot inability to defend and attack properly. He has been here for years and still fails to make the best decisions 9/10
5. Lack of control in the midfield. Bruno is not someone that wants to control the midfield. He is best known for trying his quick passes to release attackers. Best suited for teams that prefer to play on the counter
6. Garnacho missing clear chances and being selfish 100% of the time. This has changed a bit and probably improving but he is still far away
7. Our first team attackers are Garnacho, Zirkzee, Hojlund and Amad. Amad is injured which means we have just 3 in good condition. Which serious team has only 3 first team attackers? Abi is this one amorimball too?

Finally go and bring the coach you want to bring and not replace most of these players, let's see if they will not struggle until they either voluntary resign of get sacked
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 3:52pm On Mar 09, 2025
Bombblacks:
The squad even being average at best according to your words is not a 10th to 20th place team. The Manager and the team are greatly underperforming.


At the time of those recruitment what was the general conscious here. Were people happy and satisfied or not ? That's how you judge a window not looking back 3 to 5years with insight. We have spent lots in these past 5 years and if we haven't gotten value for money then it's down to the coaches who were given the players they asked for and couldn't use them.
Which of those signings were you excited for and why?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Goosethetruth(m): 3:55pm On Mar 09, 2025
Bombblacks:
I am certain if anyone had said Notthingham Forest, Brighton, Fulham , Bournemouth etc had a better squad than United before the season started most here would rained insult on that person but now we are suppose to believe the squad is not good enough for even a top 10 finish. Now we need 10 to 15 new players to finish above the likes of Bournemouth and Fulham.
Brighton,Fulham, Bournemouth and Nottingham Forest have cerebral and tactical coaches. In fact I will go further to say Marco Silva at Fulham,Andoni Iraola at Bournemouth, Fabians Hurzeler and Nuno Espirito Santos at Forest are BETTER coaches than Rueben Amorim because they don't keep complaining about how bad their work tools are in the media. They adapt and work with what they have got to achieve results. I don't see any of these coaches throwing their team under the bus. They silently go about their business and try to help their team finish as high up the league table as possible.
From Amorim's body language it is openly obvious he has given up on this season. He is not ready to make do with the players he has got but I assure you by December we will be having the renewed discussion on a new manager half way into the next season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 3:58pm On Mar 09, 2025
Leyqute:
Ironic that this is coming from an Arsenal fan, a club that has gone trophyless for the last half decade. You guys don’t wait for match days before you cry. And look at you running to come and cry on a Man Utd thread. 😀
You are mad 😂
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 4:02pm On Mar 09, 2025
Leyqute:
Playing for Man Utd doesn’t automatically make you better than other teams.

If you get outplayed and overworked by average teams - Newcastle, Fulham and Crystal Palace, you deserve to lose.



Wrong. You can be happy or sad about a signing but that’s immaterial. The only way to know if a player is a good signing is gauging their performances 1-2 years after you’ve signed them..
It's the coach duty to make sure his team is not outworked and outplayed by average teams. If those coaches can get more from those average teams then our own coach should be getting more from his above average players.

You were talking about recruitment during the last 5 windows. Reaction and feedbacks after the recruitment window from fans will signify if it was good or bad. After the spending in August bringing in 5 players the general conscious here was we have improved the squad and should be doing better than last season Yes or no?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 4:06pm On Mar 09, 2025
eph12:
You know what I'm not backing?
1. Hojlund loses almost every ball sent to him. He can't hold off any defender and protect his ball. This has nothing to do with Amorimball or formation
2. Onana making silly mistakes including conceding directly from corner
3. Maguire pulling attackers shirt in the box or failing to properly set offside trap
4. Dalot inability to defend and attack properly. He has been here for years and still fails to make the best decisions 9/10
5. Lack of control in the midfield. Bruno is not someone that wants to control the midfield. He is best known for trying his quick passes to release attackers. Best suited for teams that prefer to play on the counter
6. Garnacho missing clear chances and being selfish 100% of the time. This has changed a bit and probably improving but he is still far away
7. Our first team attackers are Garnacho, Zirkzee, Hojlund and Amad. Amad is injured which means we have just 3 in good condition. Which serious team has only 3 first team attackers? Abi is this one amorimball too?

Finally go and bring the coach you want to bring and not replace most of these players, let's see if they will not struggle until they either voluntary resign of get sacked
I am certain Everton fans were also having this same complaints about individual players under their last coach but it's the same players Moyes is using to sit above us. Barca fans were also complaining about Raphinha, lewandowski etc last season now they are doing great under Flick. No matter how you try to dress it we shouldn't be finishing below 10th with the squad we have.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 4:10pm On Mar 09, 2025
Goosethetruth:
Brighton,Fulham, Bournemouth and Nottingham Forest have cerebral and tactical coaches. In fact I will go further to say Marco Silva at Fulham,Andoni Iraola at Bournemouth, Fabians Hurzeler and Nuno Espirito Santos at Forest are BETTER coaches than Rueben Amorim because they don't keep complaining about how bad their work tools are in the media. They adapt and work with what they have got to achieve results. I don't see any of these coaches throwing their team under the bus. They silently go about their business and try to help their team finish as high up the league table as possible.

From Amorim's body language it is openly obvious he has given up on this season. He is not ready to make do with the players he has got but I assure you by December we will be having the renewed discussion on a new manager half way into the next season.
We’ve seen coaches better than Nuno, Raiola and co come to United and fall flat on their ass. It’s not always about the coach.

How many players at Nottingham Forest and co keep making schoolboy mistakes? When Aina gets an opportunity to put the ball on the platter for Wood, does he take it or turn back and slow things down like Dalot did?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:10pm On Mar 09, 2025
I remember when Ange was the darling of many of us, probably including me, that year. We were saying that he just came in and implemented his style immediately. Baba is sharing bottom table with us currently.

What some of us fail to understand is that some teams may punch above their weight once in a while, but very soon they will find their level and begin to fight relegation battles. What we want for Man Utd is not some false form or for us to think we can finally compete only to find ourselves struggling to enter top 6 the next year.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 4:16pm On Mar 09, 2025
Bombblacks:
It's the coach duty to make sure his team is not outworked and outplayed by average teams. If those coaches can get more from those average teams then our own coach should be getting more from his above average players.
It is not the job of the coach to tell his players to run. Neither is it his job to force his players to pass to each other so that they can score goals.

You can force a donkey to go to the river but you can’t force it to drink water. If the players at Nottingham and Bournemouth are egotistical and don’t follow the instructions of their coaches, they won’t be where they currently are.

You were talking about recruitment during the last 5 windows. Reaction and feedbacks after the recruitment window from fans will signify if it was good or bad. After the spending in August bringing in 5 players the general conscious here was we have improved the squad and should be doing better than last season Yes or no?
You’re still wrong. Feel good factor or hype does not determine if a signing is good or not. If rumors surface that United want to go for Ronaldo AGAIN, some fans will be euphoric about it. Doesn’t mean that he’ll be a good signing or not. The proof is always in the pudding.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 4:17pm On Mar 09, 2025
Please take note am not dragging these guys. These posts were in July and you can see how everyone was feeling good about the squad going into the season. Everyone was of the opinion that Eth has been backed and must deliver but now we are to believe the squad is not good enough to finish top 10.



larride:
Make I see who go blame board this season if the bald man disappoint.
Leyqute:
Board ke?

ETH has to deliver or else we get the right person in. What’s obvious is we now have competent football people in charge of football operations.

There’s no hiding place anymore. We can unequivocally lay blames at his feet now without mincing words.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 4:18pm On Mar 09, 2025
eph12:
I remember when Ange was the darling of many of us, probably including me, that year. We were saying that he just came in and implemented his style immediately. Baba is sharing bottom table with us currently.

What some of us fail to understand is that some teams may punch above their weight once in a while, but very soon they will find their level and begin to fight relegation battles. What we want for Man Utd is not some false form or for us to think we can finally compete only to find ourselves struggling to enter top 6 the next year.
Exactly what happened to Howe as well. Maintaing those standards is difficult. It’ll be interesting to see how Nottingham Forest performs going forward. We’ve seen Aston Villa and even Everton achieve feats like this.
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