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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Cyberknight: 9:56am On Mar 11, 2025
Zahra29:
Sure no worries, as long as he knows that he'll have to give up his US citizenship.

And isn't he currently under criminal investigation in Florida? He must think he's got the Trump factor.
Is there a dual nationality prohibition on being prime minister? I don't think there is.

Apart from British citizens, Irish citizens and permanently-settled Commonwealth citizens can become MPs and thus can become prime minister, in theory if not in practice.

Boris gave up his US citizenship for tax purposes, not because he'd otherwise be disqualified from being PM.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 11:27am On Mar 11, 2025
Cyberknight:
Is there a dual nationality prohibition on being prime minister? I don't think there is.

Apart from British citizens, Irish citizens and permanently-settled Commonwealth citizens can become MPs and thus can become prime minister, in theory if not in practice.

Boris gave up his US citizenship for tax purposes, not because he'd otherwise be disqualified from being PM.
I think there are higher level security clearance issues that forbids dual citizenship for Govt officials.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 12:55pm On Mar 11, 2025
Cyberknight:
Is there a dual nationality prohibition on being prime minister? I don't think there is.

Apart from British citizens, Irish citizens and permanently-settled Commonwealth citizens can become MPs and thus can become prime minister, in theory if not in practice.

Boris gave up his US citizenship for tax purposes, not because he'd otherwise be disqualified from being PM.
Agreed. In principle, as a commonwealth citizen, you can apply to be an MP. In practice, I don't believe there are currently any such MPs, which is a shame as it has often been claimed, - since Kemi became Tory leader, that it is incredibly easy to become an elected Member of Parliament.

There isn't an official prohibition on dual nationality. However, it is largely an election and not an appointment - and optics/ public perception matters. Holding dual nationality when seeking election to the highest public office in the land, especially of certain countries e.g. USA ( others like Iran etc) invites unnecessary questions and challenges on one's loyalty and commitment to the UK.

Before he became PM, Boris preemptively cited patriotism as one of the reasons he revoked his US citizenship. (The other more popular reason being the tax obligations)

The reason I'm thinking I probably will want to make a change is that my commitment is, and always has been, to Britain," Johnson told the Sunday Times newspaper.

Sunak had a green card which he returned before he started his campaign to become PM. His green card raised a lot of questions on his long term commitment to the UK, not helped by the revelations that his wife was registered as a non Dom for tax purposes.

Mark Carney, former BoE governor, is currently in the process of revoking his UK citizenship as he prepares to run for Canada PM - despite there being no legal requirement for him to do so.

However, there are allegations that Farage holds a German passport and we know that Kemi is also a Nigerian citizen, so if either of them becomes UK PM, they could set a new precedent that might allow Tate hold on to his US citizenship as future PM 😂
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(mod): 12:57pm On Mar 11, 2025
Who else is regreting not selling his/her Tesla share? I went from green to red and its not looking better anytime soon.

Not sure buying now is a wise move
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 12:59pm On Mar 11, 2025
justwise:
Who else is regreting not selling his/her Tesla share? I went from green to red and its not looking better anytime soon.

Not sure buying now is a wise move
Should go up when the minerals deal with Ukraine goes through, as Musk is allegedly a significant beneficiary ?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(mod): 1:19pm On Mar 11, 2025
Zahra29:
Should go up when the minerals deal with Ukraine goes through, as Musk is allegedly a significant beneficiary ?


Yea but ordinary Americans will not benefit from that, if they get to know that he will be benefiting massively that wil not help his brand either.

After Trump promised to buy Tesla yesterday the share went up just 5% but that is just nothing
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ahmedio2017(m): 7:49pm On Mar 11, 2025
Eion really made a great mistake, by venturing into politics.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7:
ahmedio2017:
Eion really made a great mistake, by venturing into politics.
He took a huge calculated risk thinking Trump by giving him access to the national treasury will act as a buffer for all the backlash he’s getting now. How far this will go we’ll know in the months ahead no wonder they need that mineral deal in Ukraine badly. Only govt money can save Elon now.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ahmedio2017(m): 8:37pm On Mar 11, 2025
Goke7:
He took a calculated risk thinking Trump by giving him access to the national treasury will act as a buffer for all the backlash he’s getting now. How far this will go we’ll know in the months ahead no wonder they need that mineral deal in Ukraine badly. Only govt money can save Elon now.
Trump is stepping on toes, as a result it is bouncing on Elon as a loyalist, I just pity him.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 8:50pm On Mar 11, 2025
ahmedio2017:
Trump is stepping on toes, as a result it is bouncing on Elon as a loyalist, I just pity him.
They are both running the govt so they will also share assets and liabilities
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by profemebee(m): 10:01pm On Mar 11, 2025
hi hi

Please I have questions regarding application for a 1st (fresh) Nigerian passport here in the UK

1. Is it true I will need Local government letter for my baby to upload when applying for the fresh Nigerian passport?

2. If nos 1 is Yes, then where do I get the Local government letter for my baby? Nigeria?

3. Regarding the Letter of consent for my baby, will it be 1 letter signed by both parents OR a Letter of consent from each of the parents?

4. What should be in the body of the Letter of consent? like what should be in the Letter of consent?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by wallg123: 11:04pm On Mar 11, 2025
deept:
Fancy Andrew Tate as PM? Dude wants to become UK prime minister.
Why not ? Is he not entitled to be PM like another person is ?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 12:07am On Mar 12, 2025
ahmedio2017:
Eion really made a great mistake, by venturing into politics.
Elon's mistake today, would be your gain tomorrow....... 😂😁

If you traded options and short tesla for 3 weeks now...... You would already be laughing all the way to the bank....... 😁🏦😂
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by DadR: 1:34pm On Mar 12, 2025
Hi,

1 & 2. I don’t think it’s necessary but I uploaded mine in the place of my baby’s.

3. We did a letter and co-signed.

4. The letter was just to say that we are the baby’s parent s and NHC has our consents to issue a new passport for our baby.

We received the baby’s passport a day after biometrics.

Cheers


profemebee:
hi hi

Please I have questions regarding application for a 1st (fresh) Nigerian passport here in the UK

1. Is it true I will need Local government letter for my baby to upload when applying for the fresh Nigerian passport?

2. If nos 1 is Yes, then where do I get the Local government letter for my baby? Nigeria?

3. Regarding the Letter of consent for my baby, will it be 1 letter signed by both parents OR a Letter of consent from each of the parents?

4. What should be in the body of the Letter of consent? like what should be in the Letter of consent?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by wonlasewonimi: 5:04pm On Mar 12, 2025
justwise:
Who else is regreting not selling his/her Tesla share? I went from green to red and its not looking better anytime soon.

Not sure buying now is a wise move
I sold mine long time ago when the idiotic 'genius' space karen F'Elon bought twitter and went ballistic with misinformation.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by SamReinvented: 11:03pm On Mar 12, 2025
SamReinvented:
Hello house - Please has anyone applied for 10 year visit visa for their parents before? I'm thinking of going through this option for my mum's next UK visa, to eliminate the whole logistics & stress involved in applying for a visa each time she needs to travel... especially now that she is getting older.

Last time she was in the UK was 2022, and she travelled abroad infrequently before then. She retired recently and I want her to be visiting every year from now on. Abeg what are the chances? Because the money go pain me if they don't give her the full thing.
Update on this - took the plunge and applied for 10 years. She got it o!!! cheesy cheesy cheesy.

Her last visa was only 6-months, so this was a big risk (especially with the costs), but was just tired of having to apply for each visit.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(mod): 11:28pm On Mar 12, 2025
wonlasewonimi:
I sold mine long time ago when the idiotic 'genius' space karen F'Elon bought twitter and went ballistic with misinformation.
I sold my twitter share before he completes the purchase of twitter but kept Tesla, i never knew that people will have a serious go at him this much.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by wonlasewonimi: 2:48am On Mar 13, 2025
How low can you go

Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jagbasneh(m): 3:36am On Mar 13, 2025
Good morning please quick one,pls what l changed from dependant to a new COS as the main applicant after 3yrs ,does the 5yrs start all over again or it will continue to count. pls response thanks
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 3:48am On Mar 13, 2025
jagbasneh:
Good morning please quick one,pls what l changed from dependant to a new COS as the main applicant after 3yrs ,does the 5yrs start all over again or it will continue to count. pls response thanks
Changing from dependant visa to skilled worker visa: yes, your ILR clock will reset.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Cyberknight: 3:57am On Mar 13, 2025
SamReinvented:
Update on this - took the plunge and applied for 10 years. She got it o!!! cheesy cheesy cheesy.

Her last visa was only 6-months, so this was a big risk (especially with the costs), but was just tired of having to apply for each visit.
Good one.
Glad to see it worked out for you.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(mod): 8:16am On Mar 13, 2025
wonlasewonimi:
How low can you go
Rock Bottom.

I don’t feel sorry for Americans, they got what they deserved. Musk is crying asking dad Trump to help sell few cars because his net worth is dropping rapidly daily.

I’m waiting for real drop on Tesla shares so as to buy even more
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Treadway: 9:32am On Mar 13, 2025
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 11:09am On Mar 13, 2025
justwise:
Rock Bottom.

I don’t feel sorry for Americans, they got what they deserved. Musk is crying asking dad Trump to help sell few cars because his net worth is dropping rapidly daily.

I’m waiting for real drop on Tesla shares so as to buy even more
It’s affecting everyone o especially retirement savings. Who will get hold of this mental health patient? ain’t funny anymore
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by profemebee(m): 11:12am On Mar 13, 2025
thanks for the response

I will try looking for mine and upload.


DadR:
Hi,

1 & 2. I don’t think it’s necessary but I uploaded mine in the place of my baby’s.

3. We did a letter and co-signed.

4. The letter was just to say that we are the baby’s parent s and NHC has our consents to issue a new passport for our baby.

We received the baby’s passport a day after biometrics.

Cheers
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(mod): 11:20am On Mar 13, 2025
Goke7:
It’s affecting everyone o especially retirement savings. Who will get hold of this mental health patient? ain’t funny anymore
Yes nobody is left out but Americans will feel the pain more, he is even getting started, nobody in his administration can talk him out of anything because they are all puppies.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by wonlasewonimi: 12:57pm On Mar 13, 2025
Treadway:
fake, as usual

https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2025/03/fact-check-trump-did-not-promote-referral-link-unlocking-up-to-1000-off-tesla-purchase.html
Definitely faked. You can't put it past this bull in a China shop.

This looked similar to the one that he was blagging Trump coin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 2:08pm On Mar 13, 2025
justwise:
Who else is regreting not selling his/her Tesla share? I went from green to red and its not looking better anytime soon.

Not sure buying now is a wise move
Hehe.. The stress of keeping up with individual st0cks no be here- high risk high reward though.
Reason I go index- even those have dropped but not to a level that'd keep me awake


justwise:
I’m waiting for real drop on Tesla sh@res so as to buy even more
How much lower are you waiting for it to drop? Granted America is overpriced but its more than halved in price
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 2:49pm On Mar 13, 2025
All this talk about benefit claimants is beginning to sound like that against migration- if Labour wants to act, they should get on and act.

But seriously... 1 in 8 huh

Why do we need care worker or seasonal farmer visas where almost a huge chunk could be put to use in the care or farming sector? With this, anyone who pays tax without claimimg benefits is an asset already


"A wasted generation, one-in-eight young people not in education, employment or training, and the people who really need that safety net still not always getting the dignity they deserve...
As of January, 9.3 million people aged 16 to 64 in the UK were economically inactive - a rise of 713,000 since the pandemic....
Last year, the government spent £65bn on sickness benefits and that figure is forecast to increase by tens of billions before the next general election.

Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by KOVIC19COVID20: 3:18pm On Mar 13, 2025
Zahra29:
For the child who has lived 7 years continuously in the UK, she can apply for ILR based on his/her private life. As part of the application she would need to prove that it is unreasonable to expect the child to leave the UK, but this shouldn't be difficult especially as the mother is now permanently domiciled in the UK as a citizen. After 12 months on ILR, she can then apply for citizenship for the child.

The other child is not eligible to apply for status from within the UK as they weren't born in the UK and have lived here for less than the qualifying 7 year period. Options are:

a) wait till the child clocks 7 years residence in the UK and then apply for ILR ( IF the child is still under 18 at this time); otherwise they would need to wait until they have spent half their life in the UK (and are under 25 years old)

b) apply from outside the UK, and if approved the child should be granted ILR

The lady is advised to use a competent lawyer to make the applications so as to get it right first time.
Thank you very much, Zarah.
You mean the child who has spent 7 years cannot get citizenship directly, but must get ILR first. Right?

Apply from outside the UK? That will mean taking the child out of the UK, back to Nigeria. Then Apply from Nigeria to come back into the UK. Yes?


Thank you very much.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by KOVIC19COVID20: 3:19pm On Mar 13, 2025
justwise:
@KOVIC19COVID20, Zahra29 is right and the good thing about this case is that these kids are under 18 and you are a British citizen,

If money is an issue then you can apply for a fee waiver https://visas-immigration.service.gov.uk/product/fee-waiver.

This is not really a serious case because no matter what happened those kids will not be asked to leave the UK.
Thank you very much. I was hoping she could apply for citizenship directly for the 1st child.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by KOVIC19COVID20: 3:20pm On Mar 13, 2025
willyede:
This is what Gemini 2.0 is suggesting but i am of the opinion that you need a lawyer for this :
This is a complex situation, and it's understandable that your friend is concerned. Here's a breakdown of the issues and potential options, keeping in mind that this is general guidance and professional legal advice is crucial:

Key Issues:

Overstaying: The children's overstaying is a serious matter. It can negatively impact future immigration applications.
Citizenship vs. Visa: The mother's citizenship significantly changes the landscape.
Children's Rights: The children's length of stay in the UK is a factor to consider.
Financial Constraints: The high cost of immigration applications is a major hurdle.
Potential Options:

Child Citizenship Registration (Section 1(3) of the British Nationality Act 1981):
This is the most likely route. Now that the mother is a British citizen, the children may be eligible to register as British citizens.
Section 1(3) allows for the registration of a minor child if the Home Secretary considers it appropriate.
Factors considered include:
The child's best interests.
The child's connection to the UK.
The child's length of residence.
The fact that the mother is now a British citizen.
Child A, having lived in the UK for 7 years, has a stronger case than Child B, who has lived in the UK for 3 years.
The overstaying period will be taken into account, but it does not automatically disqualify them.
This is generally cheaper than ILR applications.
Applying for a new visa:
Given the overstay, this is likely to be very difficult.
It would involve explaining the overstay and demonstrating compelling reasons for granting a visa.
It's unlikely a dependant visa would be granted, as the mother is no longer on a Tier 2 visa.
This is not the recommended path.
ILR (Indefinite Leave to Remain):
This is generally not the correct path for children of a British citizen. Citizenship is the more appropriate route.
ILR applications are also very expensive.  
ILR would also require that the children meet very specific requirements, that they likely do not meet.
Human Rights Applications (Article 8 of the ECHR):
This could be considered if other options fail.
It would involve demonstrating that removing the children would violate their right to a family life.
The children's length of residence, their integration into UK society, and their best interests would be key factors.
This is a very difficult and expensive route.
Recommendations:

Prioritize Citizenship Registration: Focus on applying for citizenship registration under Section 1(3) of the British Nationality Act 1981.
Gather Evidence: Collect evidence of the children's residence in the UK, their integration into society (school reports, doctor's letters, etc.), and their best interests.
Seek Legal Advice (Limited Scope): While full legal representation may be expensive, consider seeking limited-scope legal advice. This could involve:
A consultation to assess the children's eligibility for citizenship.
Assistance with completing the citizenship application form.
A review of the supporting documents.
Contact Charities and Organizations: Some charities and organizations offer free or low-cost immigration advice.  
Home Office Guidance: Carefully review the Home Office guidance on citizenship registration.
Important Considerations:

The Home Office has discretion in citizenship applications.  
The children's best interests are a primary consideration.
The overstaying period will need to be explained.
Thank you very much
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