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Antichristian2:
New International Version
He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”
New Living Translation
Then Jesus said to the woman, “I was sent only to help God’s lost sheep—the people of Israel.”

Kobojunkie:
According to the books of the Gospel, the same Jesus Christ equally made clear through direct word — figures of speech included — that He was sent by His Father only to the bloodline of Jacob.

⚉ In John 6 vs 37-38, Jesus Christ proclaimed, "The Father gives me my people. Every one of them will come to me. I will always accept them. I came down from heaven to do what God wants, not what I want." This statement invariably means Jesus Christ of Israel had no choice in picking the people that would be His; His Father is the one who made the decision as far as the people Jesus Christ was sent.
⚉ In Matthew 15 vs 20, Jesus Christ announced that He was sent by His Father only to the Lost Sheep of Israel— the bloodline of Jacob. By this, He officially declared Himself savior to the race of Israelites and not of any other race — Jesus Christ of Israel.
⚉ In John 3 vs 14 - 18, we learn from Jesus Christ of Israel that the people whom His Father loves — YHWH(God of Israel) were the very same people whom Moses, who was sent before Him, raised the Serpent in the desert to save. He went on to describe them as " the World"(a metonymy, a figure of speech, used as a reference to the condemned of Israel), which God loved.
⚉ In Matthew 7 vs. 6, Jesus Christ of Israel openly warned His followers against giving what is Holy to the dogs — non-Israelites— declaring the dogs incapable of handling that which is Holy — they are unqualified to do so.
⚉ In Matthew 10 vs. 1 - 6, when Jesus Christ of Israel had the opportunity to send His disciples out to announce the Kingdom of God, He sent them only to the Israelites.
⚉ Then, in Matthew 28 vs. 16-20 and Mark 16 s 15 - 18, applying the same metonymy he had earlier used, Jesus Christ of Israel dispersed His followers into the World which He had previously described to His followers.
⚉ To seal it all, in Luke 24, Jesus Christ proclaimed that His Word is Everlasting meaning it can never be changed ---- not by Him, or any human being even after He is dead and gone.

YHWH bestowed on Himself the title of "God of Israel", and this as He gave the name "Israel" only to the man named Jacob. Jesus Christ of Israel, himself a descendant of the bloodline of Jacob who is called Israel, NEVER indicated that He was sent to or came to save non-Israelites. The lie that He did was fabricated entirely by those of the religions of Christianity and Islam.

Antichristian2:
➜Good! But how sure are you about Islam as i know they believed Jesus was sent to the Children of Israel.

thesolutions:
Non of the above have heard of the great faith of the centurion

Kobojunkie:
⚉ Does Islam equally acknowledge that YHWH is God only of Israel?
⚉ Does Islam equally acknowledge that the Prophets of YHWH were sent out as advocates only of Israel, YHWH's plan?
⚉ And does Islam, also acknowledge that the Kingdom of God aka Heaven and Hell belonging to God of Israel which is governed by Jesus Christ of Israel, will house only those who are descended from the bloodline of Jacob?...

I can go on but I am certain Islam is in no way directly related to the God of Israel and His plan, Israel, in much the same way that Judaism and Christianity aren't.

Kobojunkie:
He was a foreigner living in the land of Canaan. If you understood anything from the details of the Law of Moses, you would know how faith — submission, and obedience to the Law of Moses which doubled as the Constitutional Law of the Nations created by God in the land of Canaan, in this case Judah— allowed even foreigners living among the Israelites to enjoy some of the benefits— breadcrumbs that fall from the master's table— promised those in the land by YHWH, God of Israel.

Truthseeker10:
➜So what are the benefits that the foreigners enjoy?

Kobojunkie:
You never read through the details of the Laws of Moses to learn? I suggest you go back through the book of Deuteronomy at least to get caught up. Also, read Exodus 12, and you will find that the benefits began for the foreigners living among the Israelites even while they were in Egypt.

Kobojunkie:
He was a foreigner living in the land of Canaan. If you understood anything from the details of the Law of Moses, you would know how faith — submission, and obedience to the Law of Moses which doubled as the Constitutional Law of the Nations created by God in the land of Canaan, in this case Judah— allowed even foreigners living among the Israelites to enjoy some of the benefits— breadcrumbs that fall from the master's table— promised those in the land by YHWH, God of Israel.

Antichristian2:
➜Allah is the God of all that exist! We don't know what YHWH is nor how it is pronounced! Allah is the same God all Prophets worshipped! And Christ is no more than a messenger like Moses, Abraham and the others! He has zero share in the divinity of God! My claim is only in the believe that Jesus was sent to the children of Israel and not to anyone else!

Kobojunkie:
Given human understanding of things, Allah and YHWH — I don't know why it matters whether you can pronounce his name or not really — can't describe the same entity. Unless, and this is unless, what you are insinuating is that this God of all things that exist is a celestial case of dissociative disorder whose every word is nothing but lies/falsehoods to all who broach him. Is this who Allah is?

thesolutions:
➜There are arguments that the centurion was an Israelite. But your mention of non Israelites enjoying the breadcrumbs implies you are not in favour that the centurion is an Israelite. That means non Israelites can enjoy the kingdom of heaven if they keep the law of Moses and reside in Israel. Does that not break your claim of Jesus being sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.
➜You can I believe we have had arguments on grafting.

Antichristian2:
New International Version
He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”
New Living Translation
Then Jesus said to the woman, “I was sent only to help God’s lost sheep—the people of Israel.”

Antichristian2:
➜Of course! Common sense dictates you to be even to pronounce the name of your God!
➜How can YHWH be the name of a God? Is it an acronym or an initials? It's not even English! It's Hebrew alphabet.
➜Why the deceit?

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus was sent to humble Jews who will in turn take Jesus' message to other peoples.

For instance if you say Muhammad is sent to the world then you must allow Muhammad speak to me in person not Arabians or you bringing his message to me.
Do you understand now?

Antichristian2:
Where did Jesus mention anything like humble Jews in the Bible? Didn't the Biblical Jesus preached to the Pharisees and Saducees despite them not being humble?



Allah never said he was sent only to the Arabs. He said he was sent in the language of the Arabs as the messenger will first have to call his own people. Muhammad was sent to the world of mankind and Jews!

Jesus said he was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel. Matthew 15:24

That word "only"changes everything!

Can you now tell us why you are a Christian now?

Kobojunkie:
Religious delusions do equate to common sense. That a person does not know how to pronounce a name DOES NOT mean the person cannot then have an understanding of the entity behind the mysterious name.

2. Where is it written that YHWH cannot be the name of a deity? Please provide us with the source of this rule you want us to believe in. Of course! That's not written anywhere!

[quote]3. Why is this inability to pronounce a name or know it considered deceit?

Truthseeker10:
➜ So the Jesus Christ of Isreal also Granted Miracles to the foreigners even though he was not sent to them?

Kobojunkie:
More importantly, where is it recorded that Jesus Christ of Israel should not have the ability to grant miracles to foreigners since He made clear He was sent to redeem only the Lost sheep of Israel?

Antichristian2:
➜ It is not pronouced. And the name is lost thought time.
➜ It is deciet because a name is never translated. YHWH is not even the Hebrew tetragramaton used in the hebrew scripture. It is actually Yod, He, Waw and He or something of that sort.

Truthseeker10:
➜You can answer the question you asked. Do you mean that miracles were not "holy things" that should not be given to dogs?

Kobojunkie:
Are miracles that are recorded even today— miracles of science included— "holy things"?

Truthseeker10:
➜That question is for you. What did Jesus tell the Canaanite woman in Matthew 15:24 when she asked for a miracle?

Antichristian2:
Where did Jesus mention anything like humble Jews in the Bible? Didn't the Biblical Jesus preached to the Pharisees and Saducees despite them not being humble?

Antichristian2:
Allah never said he was sent only to the Arabs. He said he was sent in the language of the Arabs as the messenger will first have to call his own people. Muhammad was sent to the world of mankind and Jews!

Jesus said he was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel. Matthew 15:24

That word "only"changes everything!

Can you now tell us why you are a Christian now?

Kobojunkie:
Did Jesus Christ of Israel tell the Canaanite woman that miracles where "Holy things"?

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus didn't preach to Pharisees rather they mix up with humble people when he is preaching in fact it's because of them that Jesus speaks in parables saying such ones are not deserving! Matthew 13:10-13

So let Allah or whoever it is speak nah after all he/she/it was the one sent not Arabians or you!

Truthseeker10:
➜What did Jesus tell the woman in Matthew 22:24 when she asked for a miracle? Or do you want to swallow your words back now?

Kobojunkie:
Did Jesus Christ of Israel tell the Canaanite woman that miracles were "Holy things"? Are miracles that are recorded even today— miracles of science included— regarded as "holy things"?

Truthseeker10:
➜😂😂😂ok...so Jesus told her in Matthew 22:24 that miracles was for everyone. Thank you kobo.
➜ So what does the "Holy things" involve?

Kobojunkie:
1. Is that really what Jesus Christ is recorded to have said in Matthew 22 vs 24?

2. You don't know but earlier, you seemed so certain that miracles were "holy things"?