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Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by Gabrielshow24: 9:34pm On Mar 09, 2025
MrPresident1:
The essence of your incarnation is to obey the law. In every incarnation one pays for the sins of past life. Some people are lucky, their sins follow them in this life proceeding them in this life, for some the follow after, that is the disastrous one, a soul incarnates as a baby and thinks they are all fresh and sinless, then they start suffering and start blaming God, God is not unrighteous.

Ecclesiastes 12:13
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.


The whole duty of man is to fear God. After death, once to die, judgment follows

Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
So how many times have come to the Earth? 🤔
Or better still
What's your "reincarnation" count?
And why haven't you broken free? 👀

But instead Condemned to this "eternal cycle"🤔
Are your "sins" that great🤨?
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by MrPresident1(op): 11:25pm On Mar 09, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
So how many times have come to the Earth? 🤔
Or better still
What's your "reincarnation" count?
And why haven't you broken free? 👀

But instead Condemned to this "eternal cycle"🤔
Are your "sins" that great🤨?
Job 8:9
(For we are but of yesterday, and know nothing, because our days upon earth are a shadow: )


Number of times reincarnated, no one knows. Reincarnation count, no one knows.

Jesus is coming and he will end the circle of life-death: God will dwell with men forever.
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by Gabrielshow24: 11:30pm On Mar 09, 2025
MrPresident1:
Job 8:9
(For we are but of yesterday, and know nothing, because our days upon earth are a shadow: )


Number of times reincarnated, no one knows. Reincarnation count, no one knows.

Jesus is coming and he will end the circle of life-death: God will dwell with men forever.
There's no biblical basis for reincarnation🤨.

The only one we can even come close to allude as an "incarnation" is "CHRIST" apart from him.

Human reincarnation is biblically wrong 🤔!!!
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by MrPresident1(op): 11:46pm On Mar 09, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
There's no biblical basis for reincarnation🤨.

The only one we can even come close to allude as an "incarnation" is "CHRIST" apart from him.

Human reincarnation is biblically wrong 🤔!!!
It is you opinion against what the Bible says!!!

Job 8:9
(For we are but of yesterday, and know nothing, because our days upon earth are a shadow: )
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by Gabrielshow24: 11:52pm On Mar 09, 2025
MrPresident1:
It is you opinion against what the Bible says!!!

Job 8:9
(For we are but of yesterday, and know nothing, because our days upon earth are a shadow: )
Are you not of "yesterday"? 🤨

Also were you blind to this verse Hebrews 9:27?🤦🏾‍♂️

That's the bible, now invalidate it🤨!!!
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by MrPresident1(op): 11:59pm On Mar 09, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Are you not of "yesterday"? 🤨

Also were you blind to this verse Hebrews 9:27?🤦🏾‍♂️

That's the bible, now invalidate it🤨!!!
Job 8:8-10
King James Version
8 For enquire, I pray thee, of the former age, and prepare thyself to the search of their fathers:

9 (For we are but of yesterday, and know nothing, because our days upon earth are a shadow: )


When examined in context, it talks about the former age, and the search of their fathers. When you situate the context well you will see it is not talking about a literal yesterday, but yesterday in terms of an era, an age.

Hebrews 9:27
King James Version
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:


Hebrews 9:27 is about reincarnation when examined in context too.
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by Gabrielshow24: 12:17am On Mar 10, 2025
MrPresident1:
Job 8:8-10
King James Version
8 For enquire, I pray thee, of the former age, and prepare thyself to the search of their fathers:

9 (For we are but of yesterday, and know nothing, because our days upon earth are a shadow: )


When examined in context, it talks about the former age, and the search of their fathers. When you situate the context well you will see it is not talking about a literal yesterday, but yesterday in terms of an era, an age.

Hebrews 9:27
King James Version
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:


Hebrews 9:27 is about reincarnation when examined in context too.
Really 🥲

That's what you got from
"Search of their fathers".

You took the verse and spinned it on its head.
You Even say Hebrews 9:27 alludes to reincarnation 🤨?

Kindly read it again maybe you missed "once".

As for yesterday, are you not of yesterday?😂😂😂
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by MrPresident1(op): 8:27am On Mar 10, 2025
Maybe this can help anyone. No more argument with anybody

Job 8:8-10
King James Version
8 For enquire, I pray thee, of the former age, and prepare thyself to the search of their fathers:
9 (For we are but of yesterday, and know nothing, because our days upon earth are a shadow: )


Ecclesiastes 1:9-10
King James Version
9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.


Nothing new under the sun.
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by sonmvayina(m): 10:28am On Mar 10, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Let me get you straight 🤔,God doesn't fulfil his purpose so he reincarnates again and again? 🤔

You make Patrick star wiser than this your God?

After all, is it not God that is working through you?
How then can he fail, to fulfill his own purpose? 🤔
Humans are God's spirit dwelling within a physical body made from Dust. Do you understand this?
When a human expires, the spirit returns to God and the body is buried for it to return to dust.
If the spirit that returns to God has not completed its mission on earth...it is sent again in another body to try again...
What is the intelligence of God sending his spirit to burn forever? Does it make any sense??
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by Gabrielshow24: 1:09pm On Mar 10, 2025
sonmvayina:
Humans are God's spirit dwelling within a physical body made from Dust. Do you understand this?
When a human expires, the spirit returns to God and the body is buried for it to return to dust.
If the spirit that returns to God has not completed its mission on earth...it is sent again in another body to try again...
What is the intelligence of God sending his spirit to burn forever? Does it make any sense??
This is Pathetic.
1) you imply your God as an absolute failure🤕, that continues to fail in his own purpose🤦
2) every action consequently becomes the work of your God 🤦
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by sonmvayina(m): 1:23pm On Mar 10, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
This is Pathetic.
1) you imply your God as an absolute failure🤕, that continues to fail in his own purpose🤦
2) every action consequently becomes the work of your God 🤦
Hahahaha...

Then you don't understand anything.
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by Gabrielshow24: 1:29pm On Mar 10, 2025
sonmvayina:
Hahahaha...

Then you don't understand anything.
Talk is cheap, let's use logic🤨.

What then are the implications of your statement? 🤦🏾‍♂️
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by sonmvayina(m): 1:47pm On Mar 10, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Talk is cheap, let's use logic🤨.

What then are the implications of your statement? 🤦🏾‍♂️
Human = God's spirit+ body from earth.
When humans expire, the spirit returns to God and the body is buried for it to return to dust. See Ecclesiastics 12:7

What did you not understand?
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by Gabrielshow24: 1:49pm On Mar 10, 2025
sonmvayina:
Human = God's spirit+ body from earth.
When humans expire, the spirit returns to God and the body is buried for it to return to dust. See Ecclesiastics 12:7

What did you not understand?
So what now stands in gap has consciousness🤔?
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by sonmvayina(m): 3:35pm On Mar 10, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
So what now stands in gap has consciousness🤔?
Hennnnn?
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by MrPresident1(op): 10:45pm On Mar 10, 2025
The Bible is all about reincarnation, it is a book full of reincarnation. How do you think Jesus will return? By reincarnation
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by MrPresident1(op): 8:54am On Mar 12, 2025
Know this and have peace, Jesus is not dropping from the skies, he will be born as a normal man, like everyman is born, he will grow as a normal man

Romans 1:3
Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;


He is made of the seed of David according to the flesh.

Virgin birth must be understood in the context of Mary the virgin of Israel ( the whole nation of Israel), Joseph representing the house of David.
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by MrPresident1(op):
There's no escape, everyone pays for their sins, either you pay in this your present incarnation or you die and come back - because after death is judgment - to come and pay for your sins.

The lucky people are the ones who get judged immediately; they can incarnate with the sins of previous life fully expiated and paid for. The most unfortunate are the ones who don't pay for the sins of present incarnation in the same incarnation, then they die and return as babies and grow up and misfortune dogs them and they are wondering where their problems are coming from

Or babies meet with misfortune and foolish people open their mouths to blame God, especially those foolish fake atheists, the soul inside that baby is eons old and is repaying for sins of past life.

Avoiding karmic loads is for your own good, you will carry your load by yourself

Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by MrPresident1(op): 8:20am On Mar 14, 2025
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Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by MrPresident1(op): 11:28pm On Mar 14, 2025
Once to die is different from to die once

We must begin to seriously query the interpretation of the Bible that we have been indoctrinated with. We must query, investigate and ask questions.

What is the purpose of all these mushroom Pentecostal churches that have sprouted every when the people are still so ignorant? In fact, as these Pentecostal churches proliferate, so ignorance increases, the growth and spread of Pentecostalism is inversely proportional to increase in wisdom and understanding, and directly proportional to the growth of ignorance and spiritual illiteracy.

Where are the people who understand English language, is once to die same as to die once?

Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:


Judgment takes place at the end of every incarnation, and the place of judgment is under the sun. Some peoples sins are open before -these are the lucky ones, they can ask for forgiveness and make reparations and restitutions in this present incarnation

1 Timothy 5:24
King James Version
Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.


Some others follow after- these are the unlucky ones. This is the disaster of their existence, they incarnate as babies, omo titun jojolo cheesy grin 'sinless', lmao. The soul inside that brand new body is eons old and has come to face judgment under the sun

Ecclesiastes 3:16
King James Version
And moreover I saw under the sun the place of judgment, that wickedness was there; and the place of righteousness, that iniquity was there.
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by MrPresident1(op): 12:15pm On Mar 16, 2025
Do not incur karmic burdens, this admonition is for your own good. No one gets away with anything, you pay.
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by MrPresident1(op): 2:44pm On Mar 16, 2025
grin
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by MrPresident1(op): 8:10am On Mar 17, 2025
God has shown you o man what he delights in, why is it difficult for you to love justice and mercy, why is it difficult for you to do only the things that are good right and pleasing in the sight of the LORD your God? Why do you elect evil over good and think that 'grace' will abound for you? This is Babylonian thinking.

Flee Babylon! Flee into the law of God! This is the only thing that can save you when the Inquisition for blood begins. It is going to be merciless.

Isaiah 34:5
King James Version
For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, and upon the people of my curse, to judgment.
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by Gabrielshow24: 7:58pm On Mar 17, 2025
MrPresident1:
There's no escape, everyone pays for their sins, either you pay in this your present incarnation or you die and come back - because after death is judgment - to come and pay for your sins.

The lucky people are the ones who get judged immediately; they can incarnate with the sins of previous life fully expiated and paid for. The most unfortunate are the ones who don't pay for the sins of present incarnation in the same incarnation, then they die and return as babies and grow up and misfortune dogs them and they are wondering where their problems are coming from

Or babies meet with misfortune and foolish people open their mouths to blame God, especially those foolish fake atheists, the soul inside that baby is eons old and is repaying for sins of past life.

Avoiding karmic loads is for your own good, you will carry your load by yourself

Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Your argument is self refuting 😂😂😂!!!
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by MrPresident1(op): 10:58pm On Mar 17, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Your argument is self refuting 😂😂😂!!!
As how, explain
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by MrPresident1(op): 8:47am On Mar 18, 2025
Ecclesiastes 12:12-14
King James Version
12 And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.
13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.


Much study is weariness to the flesh, the endless study that aged Paul, and made Festus call him a mad man Acts 26:24, Philemon 1:9 :

This is the conclusion of your quest for knowledge and WASC and PhD and MSc and HND and OND and Primary 6, and Modern school, and so on and so forth: you mist fear God and keep his commandments, you must obey the law, this is the whole duty of man.

There is no work that is done under the heavens which shall not be judged, whether good or evil, open or secret, God will judge everything
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by Gabrielshow24: 6:34pm On Mar 18, 2025
MrPresident1:
As how, explain
"Appointed for men to die once" 😂😂😂
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by MrPresident1(op): 8:29pm On Mar 18, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
"Appointed for men to die once" 😂😂😂
Quote your source grin grin grin
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by Gabrielshow24: 9:20pm On Mar 18, 2025
MrPresident1:
Quote your source grin grin grin
🤣🤣🤣🤣You are indeed wise!!!
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by MrPresident1(op): 11:00pm On Mar 18, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
🤣🤣🤣🤣You are indeed wise!!!
You now agree that Hebrews 9:27 is about incarnation and reincarnation?
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by Gabrielshow24: 7:28am On Mar 19, 2025
MrPresident1:
You now agree that Hebrews 9:27 is about incarnation and reincarnation?
🤣🤣🤣
Yes, by disproving it🤣🤣🤣
Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by MrPresident1(op): 7:48am On Mar 19, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
🤣🤣🤣
Yes, by disproving it🤣🤣🤣
How do you mean?
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