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MaxInDHouse:
Sorry o!
I know sey na me be your problem on this forum!

I am not the only person to have noticed his ignorance. Somebody has noticed too...

sonmvayina:
I am not the only person to have noticed his ignorance. Somebody has noticed too...

You call it "ignorance" but he feels that's the best life ever so to establish the fact you have to present the practical application of what you are saying so he or she can see it clearly not just arguing claiming you're right he is wrong!

MaxInDHouse:
You call it "ignorance" but he feels that's the best life ever so to establish the fact you have to present the practical application of what you are saying so he or she can see it clearly not just arguing claiming you're right he is wrong!

I am not claiming or arguing anything.
My only point is that we all have to keep the divine laws so that we will live in peace. There is nothing in the grave, we are all hastening to.

sonmvayina:
I am not claiming or arguing anything.
My only point is that we all have to keep the divine laws so that we will live in peace. There is nothing in the grave, we are all hastening to.

Where is the GROUP that's keeping the divine laws?
Everyone claims they are keeping God's word yet there is no way to ascertain who are keeping the laws of the true God.
So present the GROUP practicing what God said let's learn from them!

So who is being referenced here in Isaiah 9:6? Who is this prophecy referring to?

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Kobojunkie:
The Trinity delusion, along with every other god-delusion you carry, has nothing to do with Israelite Scripture. It is a construct that is wholly of religion, particularly the religion founded by those whom Jesus Christ of Israel referred to as dogs — non-Israelites — whom He warned were incapable of handling that which is holy.

The Hebrew word translated as “evil” רָע (ra‘) in the King James Version of Isaiah 45:7 has two applications in the Bible.

The term can be used in the sense of moral evil, such as wickedness and sin (Matthew 12:35; Judges 3:12; Proverbs 8:13; 3 John 1:11), or it can refer to harmful natural events, calamity, misfortune, adversity, affliction, or disaster. It is in this second sense that Isaiah speaks, and his meaning is reflected in most modern Bible translations of Isaiah 45:7 (emphasis added): “I make success and create disaster” (HCSB); “I make well-being and create calamity” (ESV); “I send good times and bad times” (NLT).

The word is used in Exodus 33:4 to describe God's punishment on the Israelites for bowing down to the Golden Calf when Moses was communing with God on Mount Sinai

– "And when the people heard these evil רָע (ra‘) tidings, they mourned: and no man did put on him his ornaments."

Aa you can see, evil or רָע Refers to the troubling news of God potentially withdrawing His presence from Israel after the golden calf incident.

Antichristian2:
Isaiah 45:7: This verse states that God "forms light and creates darkness, I make peace and create evil." This passage suggests that God can use both good and evil for His purposes.

Job 1-2: This book explores the concept of God's sovereignty and permission. It depicts Satan seeking permission from God to test Job's faith. While God allows suffering and hardship, He ultimately remains in control. I can't imagine how Job's family and properties were destroyed by God's permission in a test.


Did i say you said that? You should point out any thing that looks false here cos i know when the response gets into you you start crying "Taqqiya script". They rejected Jesus just as they've been doing before with other Prophets sent to them!

MaxInDHouse:
Where is the GROUP that's keeping the divine laws?
Everyone claims they are keeping God's word yet there is no way to ascertain who are keeping the laws of the true God.
So present the GROUP practicing what God said let's learn from them!

Max for the last time, God never said we have to be members of a cult in other to keep his laws.
I don't really know how else to hammer it into your ears. Why are you so fixated about being part of a group or cult?
Do I need to be part of a group before I honor my parents or don't sleep with another man's wife?
Please, you can keep your group. It has got nothing to do with God.

sonmvayina:
Max for the last time, God never said we have to be members of a cult in other to keep his laws. I don't really know how else to hammer it into your ears. Why are you so fixated about being part of a group or cult? Do I need to be part of a group before I honor my parents or don't sleep with another man's wife?
Please, you can keep your group. It has got nothing to do with God.

Ọmọ i can't worship you if your brain is not getting what i'm telling you all these while.
There are billions of people out there all claiming they believe in God and you are just one out of the billions so i can't agree with you based on heresay if you can't present any group doing things right it's tantamount to worshiping you!

BlackViper:
➜So who is being referenced here in Isaiah 9:6? Who is this prophecy referring to?
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

But this prophecy does not concern you, a Nigeria, with no blood ties or relations with the people it was given to?

1. But there will be an end to the gloom those people suffered. In the past, people thought the land of Zebulun and Naphtali was not important. But later, that land will be honored—the land along the sea, the land east of the Jordan River, and Galilee where people from other nations live.
2 Those people lived in darkness, but they will see a great light. They lived in a place as dark as death, but a great light will shine on them.
3 God, you will make the nation grow, and you will make the people happy. They will rejoice in your presence as they do at harvest time. It will be like the joy when people take their share of things they have won in war.
4 That will happen because you will lift the heavy yoke off their shoulders and take away their heavy burden. You will take away the rod that the enemy used to punish your people, as you did when you defeated Midian.
5 Every boot that marched in battle and every uniform stained with blood will be destroyed and thrown into the fire.
6 This will happen when the special child is born. God will give us a son who will be responsible for leading the people. His name will be “Wonderful Counselor, Powerful God, Father Who Lives Forever, Prince of Peace.”
7 His power will continue to grow, and there will be peace without end. This will establish him as the king sitting on David’s throne and ruling his kingdom. He will rule with goodness and justice forever and ever. The strong love[b] that the Lord All-Powerful has for his people will make this happen! - Isaiah 9 vs 1 - 7

You are not one of the people or the "us" referred to in the passage, so why do you care? Why not equally busy yourself quoting the prophecies given by the priestesses of Delphi and other deities as though they pertain to you?

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ i can't worship you if your brain is not getting what i'm telling you all these while.
There are billions of people out there all claiming they believe in God and you are just one out of the billions so i can't agree with you based on heresay if you can't present any group doing things right it's tantamount to worshiping you!

Why do you feel the need to be part of a group before you can Honor/Respect your parents?

sonmvayina:
Why do you feel the need to be part of a group before you can Honor/Respect your parents?

'Honor' is a word that could be debated and misconstrued so i need to see how children are honoring their parents and i will see what benefits it brings through what they are doing.
But if you say 'honor' and another man say the same thing yet another say the same thing without any practical application there is no way i can grasp what that word really means.
That's why i need to see a group who are doing what God wants in order to know those doing the right thing!

I'm loving this! This type of supreme stupidity is rare and should be appreciated😂😂😂

Let me goad you into further displays of ignorance. What does this Scripture mean:😁


Acts 13:46

"Then Paul and Barnabas answered them boldly: 'We had to speak the word of God to you first. Since you reject it and do not consider yourselves worthy of eternal life, we now turn to the Gentiles.'"

Kobojunkie:
But this prophecy does not concern you, a Nigeria, with no blood ties or relations with the people it was given to?
You are not one of the people or the "us" referred to in the passage, so why do you care? Why not equally busy yourself quoting the prophecies given by the priestesses of Delphi and other deities as though they pertain to you?

BlackViper:
➜I'm loving this! This type of supreme stupidity is rare and should be appreciated😂😂😂
Let me goad you into further displays of ignorance. What does this Scripture mean:😁
Acts 13:46
"Then Paul and Barnabas answered them boldly: 'We had to speak the word of God to you first. Since you reject it and do not consider yourselves worthy of eternal life, we now turn to the Gentiles.'"
Paul explicitly states that because the Jews rejected the message, he and Barnabas would preach to the Gentiles instead.

I am not into deciphering Scriptures. Rather, I try to help you realize the original message intended by the authors.

Here are some facts to help you comprehend the message in that passage, not just that verse you lifted there.
⚉ In 1 Kings 12, we learn that the original nation of Israel was later on divided into two different nations by YHWH— God of Israel— with 10 of the 12 tribes of former Israel forming the main of Israel while the nation of Judah was formed by the leftover tribes— Judah & Benjamin. The capital city of the created Israel was Samaria while that of Judah was Jerusalem.
⚉ In 1 Kings 12 vs 31, because Jeroboam, King of the new Israel did not honor God's agreement, the tribe of Levi eventually moved to their sister nation of Judah— the nation is the nation known in Scripture as the Jewish nation.
⚉ The nation of Isreal was later destroyed by YHWH — God of Israel —, the people sent into exile rendering them Gentiles(they no longer lived in their homeland). This took place around 720 BC as prophesied by Prophet Isaiah, Amos, etc.
⚉ By the time that Jesus Christ of Isreal was born into the nation of Judah — a Jew of the Jewish nation called Judah— the population of Judah boasted of persons from the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, Levi, and also Samaritans(exiles from the nation of Israel i.e. some from the other 9 tribes of Israel).

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Paul was a Benjamite, while Barnabas was a Levite, both of them citizens of the Jewish nation of Judah. When Paul and Barnabas told you they would then turn their preaching to the Gentiles, what they meant was that they would go to the people of the other 9 tribes of Israel — also of the family of Isreal.

Firstly, of course you're not into deciphering Scripture because you lack knowledge since you are condemned. The Church refers to people like you and your MOOSLIME friends as perditissimi

I'm not going to explain the meaning of that word to you. LOOK IT UP😁

Secondly, if the word Gentile means dispersed members of the 10 Northern Tribes of Samaria, explain the meaning of this Scripture:
Why did the Holy Spirit do this? Take your time and read carefully because this one will give you a brain aneurysm😂

Acts 8:26-40

26 Now an angel of the Lord said to Philip, “Go south to the road—the desert road—that goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza.”

27 So he started out, and on his way he met an Ethiopian eunuch, an important official in charge of all the treasury of the Kandake (which means “queen of the Ethiopians”). This man had gone to Jerusalem to worship,

28 and on his way home was sitting in his chariot reading the Book of Isaiah the prophet.

29 The Spirit told Philip, “Go to that chariot and stay near it.”

30 Then Philip ran up to the chariot and heard the man reading Isaiah the prophet. “Do you understand what you are reading?” Philip asked.

31 “How can I,” he said, “unless someone explains it to me?” So he invited Philip to come up and sit with him.

32 This is the passage of Scripture the eunuch was reading:
“He was led like a sheep to the slaughter,
and as a lamb before its shearer is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.

33 In his humiliation he was deprived of justice.
Who can speak of his descendants?
For his life was taken from the earth.” (Isaiah 53:7-

34 The eunuch asked Philip, “Tell me, please, who is the prophet talking about, himself or someone else?”

35 Then Philip began with that very passage of Scripture and told him the good news about Jesus.

36 As they traveled along the road, they came to some water and the eunuch said, “Look, here is water. What can stand in the way of my being baptized?”

[37] (Some manuscripts include this verse: Philip said, “If you believe with all your heart, you may.” The eunuch answered, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”)

38 And he gave orders to stop the chariot. Then both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water and Philip baptized him.

39 When they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord suddenly took Philip away, and the eunuch did not see him again, but went on his way rejoicing.

40 Philip, however, appeared at Azotus and traveled about, preaching the gospel in all the towns until he reached Caesarea.

Kobojunkie:
I am not into deciphering Scriptures. Rather, I try to help you realize the original message intended by the authors.

Here are some facts to help you comprehend the message in that passage, not just that verse you lifted there.
⚉ In 1 Kings 12, we learn that the original nation of Israel was later on divided into two different nations by YHWH— God of Israel— with 10 of the 12 tribes of former Israel forming the main of Israel while the nation of Judah was formed by the leftover tribes— Judah & Benjamin. The capital city of the created Israel was Samaria while that of Judah was Jerusalem.
⚉ In 1 Kings 12 vs 31, because Jeroboam, King of the new Israel did not honor God's agreement, the tribe of Levi eventually moved to their sister nation of Judah— the nation is the nation known in Scripture as the Jewish nation.
⚉ The nation of Isreal was later destroyed by YHWH — God of Israel —, the people sent into exile rendering them Gentiles(they no longer lived in their homeland). This took place around 720 BC as prophesied by Prophet Isaiah, Amos, etc.
⚉ By the time that Jesus Christ of Isreal was born into the nation of Judah — a Jew of the Jewish nation called Judah— the population of Judah boasted of persons from the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, Levi, and also Samaritans(exiles from the nation of Israel i.e. some from the other 9 tribes of Israel).

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Paul was a Benjamite, while Barnabas was a Levite, both of them citizens of the Jewish nation of Judah. When Paul and Barnabas told you they would then turn their preaching to the Gentiles, what they meant was that they would go to the people of the other 9 tribes of Israel — also of the family of Isreal.

BlackViper:
➜Firstly, of course you're not into deciphering Scripture because you lack knowledge since you are condemned. The Church refers to people like you and your MOOSLIME friends as perditissimi
➜I'm not going to explain the meaning of that word to you. LOOK IT UP😁 Secondly, if the word Gentile means dispersed members of the 10 Northern Tribes of Samaria,
➜ explain the meaning of this Scripture: Why did the Holy Spirit do this? Take your time and read carefully because this one will give you a brain aneurysm😂

1. Jesus Christ of Israel referred to non-Israelites as dogs and warned that they had absolutely no capacity to handle that which is Holy(of YHWH, God of Israel). Your religion as well as that of the Muslims was established by the dogs, so it is no wonder that your ideas regarding even that plainly contained in the book cannot be reasonably of YHWH.

2. Northern tribes of Samaria, ke?

3. The clue you seek is contained in the passage which tells you that the man had gone to Jerusalem to worship... meaning the man must have been an Israelite. Israelites(of the 12 tribes)— both exiled and none— were the only ones who went to Jerusalem and were allowed into the Temple to worship.

So you don't even know that Samaria was the Capital City of the 10 Northern tribes which they created after they broke away from the 2 Southern tribes of Benjamin and Judah?😂 Mogbe! So this is the kind of ignorant fool that Nairaland produces?

Also, Jesus NEVER referred to Gentiles as dogs my dear abomination in human form.

You're obviously talking about Matthew 15:26.

"It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to the dogs"

What is wrong with using a Proverb to explain a situation?

In Africa we use Proverbs all the time. If we say: "The toad does not appear in the day time," does it mean we're calling someone a toad or are we just using a Proverb to make a point?

I said it that you perditissimi are an abomination and you keep proving it every time you open your mouths to condemn yourselves

Secondly, if the term Gentile or Foreigner can apply to Jews as you state in respect of Acts 8 26 to 40 where you claim that the Ethiopian official is actually a Jew from the lost 10 tribes, then explain these Scriptures:

Isaiah 56:6-7

"And foreigners who bind themselves to the Lord to minister to him, to love the name of the Lord, and to be his servants, all who keep the Sabbath without desecrating it and who hold fast to my covenant—these I will bring to my holy mountain and give them joy in my house of prayer. Their burnt offerings and sacrifices will be accepted on my altar; for my house will be called a house of prayer for all nations."



1 Kings 8:41-43 (Solomon’s Dedication Prayer)


"As for the foreigner who does not belong to your people Israel but has come from a distant land because of your name—for they will hear of your great name and your mighty hand and your outstretched arm—when they come and pray toward this temple, then hear from heaven, your dwelling place. Do whatever the foreigner asks of you, so that all the peoples of the earth may know your name and fear you, as do your own people Israel, and may know that this house I have built bears your Name."

I eagerly await your latest manifestation of ignorance😂😂😂

Kobojunkie:
1. Jesus Christ of Israel referred to non-Israelites as dogs and warned that they had absolutely no capacity to handle that which is Holy(of YHWH, God of Israel). Your religion as well as that of the Muslims was established by the dogs, so it is no wonder that your ideas regarding even that plainly contained in the book cannot be reasonably of YHWH.

2. Northern tribes of Samaria, ke?

3. The clue you seek is contained in the passage which tells you that the man had gone to Jerusalem to worship... meaning the man must have been an Israelite. Israelites(of the 12 tribes)— both exiled and none— were the only ones who went to Jerusalem and were allowed into the Temple to worship.

BlackViper:
➜ So you don't even know that Samaria was the Capital City of the 10 Northern tribes which they created after they broke away from the 2 Southern tribes of Benjamin and Judah?😂 Mogbe! So this is the kind of ignorant fool that Nairaland produces?
➜ Also, Jesus NEVER referred to Gentiles as dogs my dear abomination in human form. You're obviously talking about Matthew 15:26. "It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to the dogs" .....

1. That fact that Samaria was the capital city of the nation of Israel that was created after the death of Solomon(a fact I pointed out in a previous post to you...

Kobojunkie:
I am not into deciphering Scriptures. Rather, I try to help you realize the original message intended by the authors.
Here are some facts to help you comprehend the message in that passage, not just that verse you lifted there.
⚉ In 1 Kings 12, we learn that the original nation of Israel was later on divided into two different nations by YHWH— God of Israel— with 10 of the 12 tribes of former Israel forming the main of Israel while the nation of Judah was formed by the leftover tribes— Judah & Benjamin. The capital city of the created Israel was Samaria while that of Judah was Jerusalem.

...— DOES NOT give meaning to the expression the 10 Northern Tribes of Samaria which you included in your last post, in the same way, that the expression Jerusalem tribes of the Southern nation would also have no real meaning.

2. You seem to be having a terrible time comprehending the statements relayed to you so far. Jesus Christ of Israel indeed never referred to the Gentiles as dogs because the Gentiles are not the dogs. Gentiles are Israelites whereas dogs are non-Israelites. This is the basis of this entire argument but you remain confused for reasons unknown to me. If you have yet to grasp this simple fact, then I wonder what in the world your arguing has all this while been for.

Good! You fell into my trap like the clueless buffoon I know you are!

So now that we agree that the Northern Kingdom arose LATER in time, who was King Solomon referring to here:

1 Kings 8:41-43 (Solomon’s Dedication Prayer)


"As for the foreigner who does not belong to your people Israel but has come from a distant land because of your name—for they will hear of your great name and your mighty hand and your outstretched arm—when they come and pray toward this temple, then hear from heaven, your dwelling place. Do whatever the foreigner asks of you, so that all the peoples of the earth may know your name and fear you, as do your own people Israel, and may know that this house I have built bears your Name."

This was during King Solomon's dedication of the Temple to the Lord.

So who are the foreigners that King Solomon was praying forin 1st Kings 8: 41 to 43 and asking God to hear their prayers when they come to the Temple to pray?

Let me grab my 🍿 🍿 🍿 popcorn and wait for the latest entertainment from you😁

Kobojunkie:
1. That fact that Samaria was the capital city of the nation of Israel that was created after the death of Solomon(a fact I pointed out in a previous post to you... ...— DOES NOT give meaning to the expression the 10 Northern Tribes of Samaria which you included in your last post, in the same way, that the expression Jerusalem tribes of the Southern nation would also have no real meaning.

2. You seem to be having a terrible time comprehending the statements relayed to you so far. Jesus Christ of Israel indeed never referred to the Gentiles as dogs because the Gentiles are not the dogs. Gentiles are Israelites whereas dogs are non-Israelites. This is the basis of this entire argument but you remain confused for reasons unknown to me. If you have yet to grasp this simple fact, then I wonder what in the world your arguing has all this while been for.

BlackViper:
➜Good! You fell into my trap like the clueless buffoon I know you are!
So now that we agree that the Northern Kingdom arose LATER in time, who was King Solomon referring to here:
1 Kings 8:41-43 (Solomon’s Dedication Prayer)
"As for the foreigner who does not belong to your people Israel but has come from a distant land because of your name—for they will hear of your great name and your mighty hand and your outstretched arm—when they come and pray toward this temple, then hear from heaven, your dwelling place. Do whatever the foreigner asks of you, so that all the peoples of the earth may know your name and fear you, as do your own people Israel, and may know that this house I have built bears your Name."
This was during King Solomon's dedication of the Temple to the Lord.
➜ So who are the foreigners that King Solomon was praying forin 1st Kings 8: 41 to 43 and asking God to hear their prayers when they come to the Temple to pray? Let me grab my 🍿 🍿 🍿 popcorn and wait for the latest entertainment from you😁

You have never read the Book of the Law of Moses have you where YHWH — God of Israel, have you? You have never read of YHWH's curses which were eventually carried out against both the Nations of Israel

Read the books of the Laws and you might just realize that Solomon merely restated the information that YHWH — God of Israel — had previously stated in His Law of Moses to the people of Israel, information that was to take place. And it did no thanks to the antics of the same Solomon.

63 “The Lord was happy to be good to you and to make your nation grow. In the same way, the Lord will be happy to ruin and destroy you. You are going to take that land to be yours. But people will take you out of that land!
64 The Lord will scatter you among all the people in the world. He will scatter you from one end of the earth to the other. There you will serve false gods made of wood and stone. They are false gods that you or your ancestors never worshiped.
65 “You will not have any peace among these nations. You will have no place to rest. The Lord will fill your mind with worry. Your eyes will feel tired. You will be very upset.
66 You will live with danger and always be afraid. You will be afraid night and day. You will never feel sure about your life.
67 In the morning you will say, ‘I wish it were evening!’ In the evening you will say, ‘I wish it were morning!’ This will happen because of the fear in your heart and the terrible things you will see.
68 The Lord will send you back to Egypt in ships. I said you would never have to go to that place again, but he will send you there. In Egypt you will try to sell yourselves as slaves to your enemies, but no one will buy you.” - Deuteronomy 28 vs 63 - 68

Continued in Deuteronomy 29 -30.

At the time of 1 Kings 8:41-43 (Solomon’s Dedication Prayer)


"As for the foreigner who does not belong to your people Israel but has come from a distant land because of your name—for they will hear of your great name and your mighty hand and your outstretched arm—when they come and pray toward this temple, then hear from heaven, your dwelling place. Do whatever the foreigner asks of you, so that all the peoples of the earth may know your name and fear you, as do your own people Israel, and may know that this house I have built bears your Name."

Did we have a United Kingdom of Israel or had they been scattered at the time Solomon said this prayer?


Take your time....

Kobojunkie:
You have never read the Book of the Law of Moses have you where YHWH — God of Israel, have you? You have never read of YHWH's curses which were eventually carried out against both the Nations of Israel

Read the books of the Laws and you might just realize that Solomon merely restated the information that YHWH — God of Israel — had previously stated in His Law of Moses to the people of Israel, information that was to take place. And it did no thanks to the antics of the same Solomon.
Continued in Deuteronomy 29 -30.

BlackViper:
➜At the time of 1 Kings 8:41-43 (Solomon’s Dedication Prayer) "As for the foreigner who does not belong to your people Israel but has come from a distant land because of your name—for they will hear of your great name and your mighty hand and your outstretched arm—when they come and pray toward this temple, then hear from heaven, your dwelling place. Do whatever the foreigner asks of you, so that all the peoples of the earth may know your name and fear you, as do your own people Israel, and may know that this house I have built bears your Name."
Did we have a United Kingdom of Israel or had they been scattered at the time Solomon said this prayer?
Take your time....

Did this United Kingdom of Israel — the people had not even reached the land of Canaan which was their promised land/nation at the time in question and the Law was to be ratified much later on — officially exist at the time that YHWH — God of Israel — gave the prophecy in Deuteronomy 28 -30?

Did the 12 tribes of Israel exist as a nation before they had a kingdom? You probably don't know the answer to that question so I'll answer it for you: YES

So answer the question and stop playing hide and seek. WHO ARE THE FOREIGNERS IN[b]1 Kings 8:41-43 (Solomon’s Dedication Prayer)?
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"As for the foreigner who does not belong to your people Israel but has come from a distant land because of your name—for they will hear of your great name and your mighty hand and your outstretched arm—when they come and pray toward this temple, then hear from heaven, your dwelling place. Do whatever the foreigner asks of you, so that all the peoples of the earth may know your name and fear you, as do your own people Israel, and may know that this house I have built bears your Name."

WHO ARE THE FOREIGNERS THAT SOLOMON WAS PRAYING FOR?

Kobojunkie:
Did this United Kingdom of Israel — the people had not even reached the land of Canaan which was their promised land/nation at the time in question and the Law was to be ratified much later on — officially exist at the time that YHWH — God of Israel — gave the prophecy in Deuteronomy 28 -30?

BlackViper:
➜ Did the 12 tribes of Israel exist as a nation before they had a kingdom? You probably don't know the answer to that question so I'll answer it for you: YES
➜ So answer the question and stop playing hide and seek. WHO ARE THE FOREIGNERS IN[b]1 Kings 8:41-43 (Solomon’s Dedication Prayer)?
[/b] "As for the foreigner who does not belong to your people Israel but has come from a distant land because of your name—for they will hear of your great name and your mighty hand and your outstretched arm—when they come and pray toward this temple, then hear from heaven, your dwelling place. Do whatever the foreigner asks of you, so that all the peoples of the earth may know your name and fear you, as do your own people Israel, and may know that this house I have built bears your Name."
WHO ARE THE FOREIGNERS THAT SOLOMON WAS PRAYING FOR?

1. A country without a land border of its very own? Interesting assertion!
2.

Kobojunkie:
Did this United Kingdom of Israel — the people had not even reached the land of Canaan which was their promised land/nation at the time in question and the Law was to be ratified much later on — officially exist at the time that YHWH — God of Israel — gave the prophecy in Deuteronomy 28 -30?

Not every nation is a kingdom. Nationhood can exist conceptually even without borders. For an example in modern times see the Kurdish people. They are a nation of people who don't have a country of their own

So answer the question I asked or are you a Coward in addition to having a low IQ?
.WHO IS SOLOMON PRAYING FOR HERE? WHO ARE THESE FOREIGNERS?

1 Kings 8:41-43 (Solomon’s Dedication Prayer)


"As for the foreigner who does not belong to your people Israel but has come from a distant land because of your name—for they will hear of your great name and your mighty hand and your outstretched arm—when they come and pray toward this temple, then hear from heaven, your dwelling place. Do whatever the foreigner asks of you, so that all the peoples of the earth may know your name and fear you, as do your own people Israel, and may know that this house I have built bears your Name."

Kobojunkie:
1. A country without a land border of its very own? Interesting assertion!
2.

BlackViper:
➜Not every nation is a kingdom. Nationhood can exist conceptually even without borders. For an example in modern times see the Kurdish people. They are a nation of people who don't have a country of their own
➜ So answer the question I asked or are you a Coward in addition to having a low IQ? .WHO IS SOLOMON PRAYING FOR HERE? WHO ARE THESE FOREIGNERS?
1 Kings 8:41-43 (Solomon’s Dedication Prayer)
"As for the foreigner who does not belong to your people Israel but has come from a distant land because of your name—for they will hear of your great name and your mighty hand and your outstretched arm—when they come and pray toward this temple, then hear from heaven, your dwelling place. Do whatever the foreigner asks of you, so that all the peoples of the earth may know your name and fear you, as do your people Israel, and may know that this house I have built bears your Name."

1. What in the world is this for now? The original Nation of Israel began as a nation without a formal(human) king hence it was not a Kingdom. The monarchy was requested and arrived with the announcement of Saul as the first king of Israel.

2.

Kobojunkie:
Did this United Kingdom of Israel — the people had not even reached the land of Canaan which was their promised land/nation at the time in question and the Law was to be ratified much later on — officially exist at the time that YHWH — God of Israel — gave the prophecy in Deuteronomy 28 -30?

Kobojunkie:
1. What in the world is this for now? The original Nation of Israel began as a nation without a formal(human) king hence it was not a Kingdom. The monarchy was requested and arrived with the announcement of Saul as the first king of Israel.

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Kobo you never tell us why Jesus gave breadcrumbs(miracle) to the Canaanite woman after telling her that he won't give her bread oo in Matthew 15:24-26.

So are you saying that there was no nation of Israel at the time Deuteronomy was written?

Kobojunkie:
1. What in the world is this for now? The original Nation of Israel began as a nation without a formal(human) king hence it was not a Kingdom. The monarchy was requested and arrived with the announcement of Saul as the first king of Israel.

2.

BlackViper:
So are you saying that there was no nation of Israel at the time Deuteronomy was written?

From what I have read, the people existed however the nation itself came after the law had been ratified — Deuteronomy 32 —and those who were intended to be a part of the agreement had possessed the land.

Israel was already a sovereign state with the capacity to govern itself in accordance with laws made for the Nation by God Himself.

The Nation of Israel had already existed for centuries before the laws were made for them

So answer the question I asked: WHO ARE THE FOREIGNERS MENTIONED IN

1 Kings 8:41-43 (Solomon’s Dedication Prayer)


"As for the foreigner who does not belong to your people Israel but has come from a distant land because of your name—for they will hear of your great name and your mighty hand and your outstretched arm—when they come and pray toward this temple, then hear from heaven, your dwelling place. Do whatever the foreigner asks of you, so that all the peoples of the earth may know your name and fear you, as do your own people Israel, and may know that this house I have built bears your Name."

Kobojunkie:
From what I have read, the people existed however the nation itself came after the law had been ratified — Deuteronomy 32 —and those who were intended to be a part of the agreement had possessed the land.

BlackViper:
➜Israel was already a sovereign state with the capacity to govern itself in accordance with laws made for the Nation by God Himself. The Nation of Israel had already existed for centuries before the laws were made for them

Where is the evidence of this statement of yours? Where is the proof that the Israelites had territory to defend back when they were merely roaming through the deserts? 😏😏😏😏

In Deuteronomy, the Israelites knew the difference between themselves and foreigners from other nations and they had laws concerning how foreigners were to be treated. Only an independent, sovereign nation can have such laws.

Now answer the question, WHO ARE THE FOREIGNERS FROM A DISTANT LAND MENTIONED BELOW?

1 Kings 8:41-43 (Solomon’s Dedication Prayer)


"As for the foreigner who does not belong to your people Israel but has come from a distant land because of your name—for they will hear of your great name and your mighty hand and your outstretched arm—when they come and pray toward this temple, then hear from heaven, your dwelling place. Do whatever the foreigner asks of you, so that all the peoples of the earth may know your name and fear you, as do your own people Israel, and may know that this house I have built bears your Name."

Kobojunkie:
Where is the evidence of this statement of yours? Where is the proof that the Israelites had territory to defend back when they were merely roaming through the deserts? 😏😏😏😏

BlackViper:
In Deuteronomy, the Israelites knew the difference between themselves and foreigners from other nations and they had laws concerning how foreigners were to be treated. Only an independent, sovereign nation can have such laws.

Again, where is the evidence of this statement of yours? Where is the proof that the Israelites had territory to defend back when they were merely roaming through the deserts?

Boko Haram has laws that its members probably live by. Is Boko Haram a sovereign nation?