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Jamiuokolaa:
Bro, no need to sugar coat this matter..

Dorgu has gaps that need to be sorted out urgently if we are to become a serious team like you have said.

For a first team player that was bought to solve an immediate problem on the flanks, Issues that Border around "Touch" aren't the kind that would need us to wait for 2 years..hoping he turns out like Evra

No serious team heap their hope on a 20 year old left back. When you sign a proven goalscorer and at least 2 creative midfielders, who can put a game to bed, you will be less concerned about what Dorgu does.
If the club want to solve the wing issues immediately they would ve gone for Nuno Mendes, Frimpong or De marco. For now Dorgu is doing up to EXPECTATIONS. You guys should temper your expectations and allow him to flourish.

CapitalCee:
No serious team heap their hope on a 20 year old left back. When you sign a proven goalscorer and at least 2 creative midfielders, who can put a game to bed, you will be less concerned about what Dorgu does.

If we need to sign proven goalscorers and creative midfielders before Dorgu improves his touch, passing and other basic areas in which a professional footballer shouldnt be found wanting, then his situation is worse than initially projected.

We are seeing basic gaps in a professional footballer with senior international caps, you are here playing some age-card. The same excuses that probably prevented Rashford from achieving his full potential and the same excuse that would most likely ruin Garnacho if care is not taken.

CapitalCee:
If the club want to solve the wing issues immediately they would ve gone for Nuno Mendes, Frimpong or De marco. For now Dorgu is doing up to EXPECTATIONS. You guys should temper your expectations and allow him to flourish.

I dont care about those players because they don't play for Manchester united.

Dorgu is a first teamer bought to address a pressing issue with the team.

While he has shown promising signs, there are glaring gaps that need to be addressed urgently, if we are to reap the benefits of his signature fast enough.

Jamiuokolaa:
If we need to sign a proven goalscorers a nd creative midfielders before Dorgu improves his touch, passing and other basic areas in which a professional footballer shouldnt be found wanting, then his situation is worse than initially projected.

We are seeing basic gaps in a professional footballer with senior international caps, you are here playing some age-card. The same excuses that probably prevented Rashford from achieving his full potential and the same excuse that would most likely ruin Garnacho if care is not taken.



I dont care about those players because they don't play for Manchester united.

Dorgu is a first teamer bought to address a pressing issue with the team.

While he has shown promising signs, there are glaring gaps that need to be addressed urgently, if we are to reap the benefits of his signature fast enough.

Yeah. maybe the coach need to give you a contract to enter the pitch and use your own fine touches and technical abilities to win matches, just because he misplaced few passes and shots in the first half, suddenly you are here whining like a cry baby. Didnt he create chances in the second half? Including our best chances which a more clinical striker would have buried? Like I maintained, he is playing very well, and added a lot of bite to our set up and play, if you cant see that, then I cant help you.
No single player doesn’t have a gap expecially when he is still young. If you have started watching football during the early days of Class of 92, you would have been crying like now that all of them should be binned immediately for urgent benefits. Evra was gotten Jan 2006, he struggled for many months and improved eventually on a lot of things to be an absolute world class player he later turned out, leading to a league title in 2007. Even at that he wasnt really instrumental to that league win.
If they sell the guy now for example and he started doing well ,you will be the same person coming here to cry that why was he sold? Someone here is mentioning Lewis Skelly to me, na so most people here keep disturbing us with Sancho when he was at Dortmund, we were warning that the guy is a bum, until he came here and flopped. So you can continue your harsh criticism but for me Patrick Dorgu is doing well, when he starts playing nonsense it will be clear

CapitalCee:
Yeah. maybe the coach need to give you a contract to enter the pitch and use your own fine touches and technical abilities to win matches, just because he misplaced few passes and shots in the first half, suddenly you are here whining like a cry baby. Didnt he create chances in the second half? Including our best chances which a more clinical striker would have buried? Like I maintained, he is playing very well, and added a lot of bite to our set up and play, if you cant see that, then I cant help you.
No single player doesn’t have a gap expecially when he is still young. If you have started watching football during the early days of Class of 92, you would have been crying like now that all of them should be binned immediately for urgent benefits. Evra was gotten Jan 2006, he struggled for many months and improved eventually on a lot of things to be an absolute world class player he later turned out, leading to a league title in 2007. Even at that he wasnt really instrumental to that league win.
If they sell the guy now for example you will be the same person coming here to cry that why was he sold? Someone here is mentioning Lewis Skelly to me, na so most people here keep disturbing us with Sancho when he was at Dortmund, we were warning that the guy is a bum, until he came here and flopped. So you can continue your harsh criticism but for me Patrick Dorgu is doing well, when he starts playing nonsense it will be clear

You are the one shamelessly wanking with hard -ons to a player who is clearly rough around the edges and urgently needs polishing and it tells a lot about your taste.

I dont care about Evra, Sancho,Skelly and those irrelevant and illogical examples you gave because I really don't see how it would address the issues at hand.

Dorgu, while showing some signs of promise, needs to urgently address some basic footballing issues if we are to reap the full benefits of his signature fast enough

Jamiuokolaa:
You are the one shamelessly wanking with hard -ons to a player who is clearly rough around the edges and urgently needs polishing and it tells a lot about your taste.

I dont care about Evra, Sancho,Skelly and those irrelevant and illogical examples you gave because I really don't see how it would address the issues at hand.

Dorgu, while showing some signs of promise, needs to urgently address some basic footballing issues if we are to reap the full benefits of his signature fast enough

You must be blind, you need to show me where I said he doesnt need improvement. You must be dumb to come here to cry and whine, thinking that a LB from Lecce will URGENTLY make Man United to be Title contenders. If you can’t relax and watch him naturally progress his career, you then need to buy a FM game and simulate it there.

CapitalCee:
You must be blind, you need to show me where I said he doesnt need improvement. You must be dumb to come here to cry and whine, thinking that a LB from Lecce will URGENTLY make Man United to be Title contenders. If you can’t relax and watch him naturally progress his career, you then need to buy a FM game and simulate it there.

You have never been the sharpest tool in the box and every time you get the chance to redeem yourself, you plunge deeper into the realms of sheer idiocy and ridicule.

Basic footballing issues in a professional footballer that need to be addressed as fast as possible are being pointed out , you are here wánking to his young age like the gáy, predatory peodophile that you are.

The same way you keep posting masturbatory comments about Garnacho's young age even when the lad clearly has gaps that are impacting the team's performances and results!

I dont mean to be disrespectful but hombré, You are a Cúnt with a Capital Letter C!!

Dorgu-sexual Batty boi...a shameless one at that!

Which kind wahala be this?

😹😹

Jamiuokolaa:
You have never been the sharpest tool in the box and every time you get the chance to redeem yourself, you plunge deeper into the realms of sheer idiocy and ridicule.

Basic footballing issues in a professional footballer that need to be addressed as fast as possible are being pointed out , you are here wánking to his young age like the gáy, predatory peodophile that you are.

The same way you keep posting masturbatory comments about Garnacho's young age even when the lad clearly has gaps that are impacting the team's performances and results!

I dont mean to be disrespectful but hombré, You are a Cúnt with a Capital Letter C!!

Dorgu-sexual Batty boi...a shameless one at that!

Senior men, make una calm down. I think both of you acknowledge that the lad needs to improve certain aspects of his game, which is fine. CapitalCee is only trying to reduce the expectation on the lad so he doesn't crumble under pressure. You both are right, so it's needless to engage in these shows of shame...

Make una shake hands...

Wetin we carry Wetin we throw? 😀

patrickmuf:
Senior men, make una calm down. I think both of you acknowledge that the lad needs to improve certain aspects of his game, which is fine. CapitalCe is only trying to reduce the expectation on the lad so he doesn't crumble under pressure. You both are right, so it's needless to engage in these shows of shame...

Make una shake hands...

Who you de call senior man, God forbid bad thing, More like a man child. You bought a 20 year old Left back from Lecce a club doomed for relegation, in a slow league like seria A. And you expect him to play like Mbappe up front, the guy is not a senior man, his football knowledge is like that of a kid. A player that has not even played up to 10 games in a new league, you are already jumping and talking trash.h about him just because he misplaced few shots and passes. Was it not the same guy that literally dismantled Real Sociedad? Didn't we see him against Portugal? Low brains like him would have trashed all the class of 92 because he can't tolerate their acclimatisation.

All the defence i get is Lewis Skelly, a player that constantly cost Arsenal games given his experience and age. I have started blocking low brained guys like this that trash talk youngsters on twitter.
Madrid bought Guler and Endrick, how many times do you see them start games let alone high profile games. But you got a 20 year old relegation battler and expect him to lead you to title. When Fergie bought Nani and Anderson in 2007, how many games did they play for the next 3 years? Person wey no sabi anything for football you de call am senior man, because he is slandering teenagers.

Jamiuokolaa:
You are the one shamelessly wanking with hard -ons to a player who is clearly rough around the edges and urgently needs polishing and it tells a lot about your taste.

I dont care about Evra, Sancho,Skelly and those irrelevant and illogical examples you gave because I really don't see how it would address the issues at hand.

Dorgu, while showing some signs of promise, needs to urgently address some basic footballing issues if we are to reap the full benefits of his signature fast enough

Honestly I don't really understand this issue of us being patient when good money was paid for them( young players).Most times if u watch a new buy plays for first time or more u can easily assess.Mazaroui/Bruno are typical examples.Telling me players like Mainoo ,Gnarcho even Dorgu r all going to turn prime Modric ,Ronaldo n Roberto Carlos is never going to happen.These r average players n to b brutally honest we r wasting money on dem.

Comparing players of Fergie era to present ones is an insult.lmagine considering sallah for world footballer of d yr.. .Is all about soft life now.

MRTA7:
He has some decent qualities but to be honest he's not at the required level if we want to be a serious team. That's not to say he can't get there but in a team already struggling and under pressure it'll be even harder.

The good thing is that he didn't cost much and his salary is not much either. I think his current level is good enough to be a squad player but there is potential for him to improve. The guy limits many problems just from his power and pace.

CapitalCee:
I am not saying he is a finished product. My point is he is still young and is coming into a new league, his position was LB at Lecce, is he expected to be scoring and assisting like prime Mbappe? He will improve eventually. It's obvious that he will improve, No where have I priased him excessively or blindly. But when someone just attack every of his moves it reeks of agenda

I get your point about the unwarranted attacks but it is not a given that he will improve. Some players are who they are and will never improve significantly.

For him to improve on his technical deficiencies he has to start working hard at it now. He is still young, so it is possible but let's not just assume that it will definitely happen.

CapitalCee:
Who you de call senior man, God forbid bad thing, More like a man child. You bought a 20 year old Left back from Lecce a club doomed for relegation, in a slow league like seria A. And you expect him to play like Mbappe up front, the guy is not a senior man, his football knowledge is like that of a kid. A player that has not even played up to 10 games in a new league, you are already jumping and talking trash.h about him just because he misplaced few shots and passes. Was it not the same guy that literally dismantled Real Sociedad? Didn't we see him against Portugal? Low brains like him would have trashed all the class of 92 because he can't tolerate their acclimatisation.

All the defence i get is Lewis Skelly, a player that constantly cost Arsenal games given his experience and age. I have started blocking low brained guys like this that trash talk youngsters on twitter.
Madrid bought Guler and Endrick, how many times do you see them start games let alone high profile games. But you got a 20 year old relegation battler and expect him to lead you to title. When Fergie bought Nani and Anderson in 2007, how many games did they play for the next 3 years? Person wey no sabi anything for football you de call am senior man, because he is slandering teenagers.

CapitalCUNT, you are a foool - a pathetic one at that!

If you didn't have ox pooop for brains, you would know that with the current dire situation of the club, there is little room to "babysit" first teamers..especially when basics expected from professional footballers seem to be missing.

So because he was purchased from Lecce, thats why he should have the touch of a serial rápist? This imɓecile even implied that we need to sign top players if Dorgu is to improve his Touch.

What's our business with Anderson, Nani Skelly, Guler and Endrick? Are they currently playing for man utd?

If you cant stand the heat that would come with some of these players you stan, fúck off from these pages and look for another forum where unrepentant drunkards like yourself can spew baloney with reckless abandon.

if Amorim really has Osihmen on his shortlisted candidates for a striker, then the club better goes out and sign Osihmen.
INEOS can ditch Rashford, Hojlund, Sancho and Antony fairly easy in the summer as things stand.
I think that will be fair assumption.
there are a few sensible attacking wingers to bolster the squad and still keep overall spending fairly low.

afrodoc2:
I get your point about the unwarranted attacks but it is not a given that he will improve. Some players are who they are and will never improve significantly.

For him to improve on his technical deficiencies he has to start working hard at it now. He is still young, so it is possible but let's not just assume that it will definitely happen.

Thank you, ofcourse I am not saying it will definitely happen, when by this time next year, he has not improved then we can begin attacking him. If you watch Yoro yesterday, you will see that he has massively improved from how he was when he started, he is adapting gradually into a new league and system. Even Dorgu himself after the Sociedad game admitted that he recognised that he needs to work on his finishing and Decision making in the final third, given his role in the team, so he is putting in extra work for that. Moreover he is moving from a new league at a young age.
Part of his learning curve is not throwing him under the bus, but coaching him well and protecting him away from the spotlight. These are some of the reasons Fergie banned journalists during his time, putting enormous pressure on youngsters. If you criticise even harshly Mazraoui or De ligt that's different given their experience. But a youngster coming into a new league into a big club and he wasn't even as terrible as these agendists are making it look like.
While we don't overhype youngsters, it's also very important we don't heap too much psychological burden on them.

CapitalCee:
Thank you, ofcourse I am not saying it will definitely happen, when by this time next year, he has not improved then we can begin attacking him. If you watch Yoro yesterday, you will see that he has massively improved from how he was when he started, he is adapting gradually into a new league and system. Even Dorgu himself after the Sociedad game admitted that he recognised that he needs to work on his finishing and Decision making in the final third, given his role in the team, so he is putting in extra work for that. Moreover he is moving from a new league at a young age.
Part of his learning curve is not throwing him under the bus, but coaching him well and protecting him away from the spotlight. These are some of the reasons Fergie banned journalists during his time, putting enormous pressure on youngsters. If you criticise even harshly Mazraoui or De ligt that's different given their experience. But a youngster coming into a new league into a big club and he wasn't even as terrible as these agendists are making it look like.
While we don't overhype youngsters, it's also very important we don't heap too much psychological burden on them.

You make good points. Our fans are too impatient and often times illogical.

ChristineC:
if Amorim really has Osihmen on his shortlisted candidates for a striker, then the club better goes out and sign Osihmen.
INEOS can ditch Rashford, Hojlund, Sancho and Antony fairly easy in the summer as things stand.
I think that will be fair assumption.
there are a few sensible attacking wingers to bolster the squad and still keep overall spending fairly low.

We need to urgently go for either Gyokeres or Osihmen, we also need Cuhna or another proven AM we could have gone for Kvara but he is in PSG now. All these Delap and Dibling I am hearing, you will bring them now, they will start adapting, then I'diotic fans will be expecting them to win the league.
A world class striker and A competent AM will massively improve the team

How serial rapist dey control ball, abeg?

akwesenana:
How serial rapist dey control ball, abeg?

akwesenana por favor

afrodoc2:
You make good points. Our fans are too impatient and often times illogical.

Honestly that's why I am just praying we don't buy players like Delap Honestly. When Bayern lost Lewandowski, They went straight for 30 year old Kane for 100m. Osihmen/Gyokeres is available now for 60m and we are dilly dallying.
Our problem is clearly decision making in the final 3rd 2 quality signings in that area plus Amad will be a lot of difference.

engrelvis:
Honestly I don't really understand this issue of us being patient when good money was paid for them( young players).Most times if u watch a new buy plays for first time or more u can easily assess.Mazaroui/Bruno are typical examples.Telling me players like Mainoo ,Gnarcho even Dorgu r all going to turn prime Modric ,Ronaldo n Roberto Carlos is never going to happen.These r average players n to b brutally honest we r wasting money on dem.

At 23 Modric was still playing for Dynamo Zagreb, at 21 he was still playing for inter Zapresic, At 20 Palmerias sent Roberto Carlos on loan to Athletico Miniero. Harry Kane at 20/21 was at loan at Norwich and Leicester. Infact at Spurs at 22 Kane scored 4 goals in 19 games. If you want to win the league stop signing kids, go and sign experience players. That's the reason why Bellingham and Haaland agents refused to sell them to Manchester United, because they will used content and impatient kill their career before it even started

I have said it before, and I will continue saying it. Man United currently have the most unintelligent fan base in football. Also Man United is the worst club for any promising player to start their career. No sensible agent should sell any big prospect to Man United, if the team want good players it's either they get them from the academy or buy them at normally huge price.
The amount of dumb takes most United fans have about players is mind boggling. Elanga was here, the same fans were abusing him and begging the club to sell him, now he is decent at Forest, the same dumb fans are now questioning the club for selling him. They collude with journalists and other fans to pile pressure on players and keep abusing them until they give up and begin suffering psychologically.
Every club buys Under 21, players and gradually ease them into the team proper when they get like 23/24. But in the case of United, no way. Within few days of getting promoted or signed Fans already will develop agendas and pray for the players failure so they can say "I told you so".
I am saying it again, any agent that has a young player starting their careers should not near Man United, the career will be gone within few days by dumb low brained fans and CONTENT creating Journalists

CapitalCee:
At 23 Modric was still playing for Dynamo Zagreb, at 21 he was still playing for inter Zapresic, At 20 Palmerias sent Roberto Carlos on loan to Athletico Miniero. Harry Kane at 20/21 was at loan at Norwich and Leicester. Infact at Spurs at 22 Kane scored 4 goals in 19 games. If you want to win the league stop signing kids, go and sign experience players. That's the reason why Bellingham and Haaland agents refused to sell them to Manchester United, because they will used content and impatient kill their career before it even started

Using these old players template to assess this present crops is never going to work with me. When u watch Bellingham at Dortmund u know this is a player for d future. Nobody is saying these kids should not b given d chance to progress but r they really showing signs of improvement? When Gnarcho did dt acrobatic goal we all taught sometin good was happening. Same with Mainoo. To crown it all they will b asking for outrageous wages. To whom much is given much is expected

CapitalCee:
I have said it before, and I will continue saying it. Man United currently have the most unintelligent fan base in football. Also Man United is the worst club for any promising player to start their career. No sensible agent should sell any big prospect to Man United, if the team want good players it's either they get them from the academy or buy them at normally huge price.
The amount of dumb takes most United fans have about players is mind boggling. Elanga was here, the same fans were abusing him and begging the club to sell him, now he is decent at Forest, the same dumb fans are now questioning the club for selling him. They collude with journalists and other fans to pile pressure on players and keep abusing them until they give up and begin suffering psychologically.
Every club buys Under 21, players and gradually ease them into the team proper when they get like 23/24. But in the case of United, no way. Within few days of getting promoted or signed Fans already will develop agendas and pray for the players failure so they can say "I told you so".
I am saying it again, any agent that has a young player starting their careers should not near Man United, the career will be gone within few days by dumb low brained fans and CONTENT creating Journalists

Tbh l will really like to see you in person. The way u insult yr fellow man utd fans just bcoz they r nt agreeing with you is very disheartening. lt doesn't shows maturity.

People should make their points without getting emotional,and insulting. In my opinion every fan is entitled to state his own opinion on issues affecting Manchester United without being subjected to subtle insults.
That is why these boards are so dry and empty at times like a grave yard.
Fans dread to comment to avoid being subjected to insults. The sky is wide enough for all birds to soar without bumping wings. Live and let live after all we are all hoping the best for Manchester United.

engrelvis:
Using these old players template to assess this present crops is never going to work with me. When u watch Bellingham at Dortmund u know this is a player for d future. Nobody is saying these kids should not b given d chance to progress but r they really showing signs of improvement? When Gnarcho did dt acrobatic goal we all taught sometin good was happening. Same with Mainoo. To crown it all they will b asking for outrageous wages. To whom much is given much is expected

everybody is not Wayne Rooney. we need to understand that even a 25 year old (not just career life) still has some way to go in terms of general life experiences, and yes there may be the odd guy here and there but it's not the norm.
it's a reason I didn't support demonizing Greenwood and I absolutely do not mind Garnacho as part of the squad. when I see a person put in max effort at what he does, I am always inclined to give enough rope but maybe that's my nature.
the Dorgu in question barely just walked through the door mid season. It's a much raised floor of operations from what he's used to. I don't think any Man United fan reasonably expected a level significantly higher than what he's served so far. It is much more tasking to perform in an environment of constant scrutiny. Man United fans sometimes do not fully appreciate the sheer size of the club.

engrelvis:
Using these old players template to assess this present crops is never going to work with me. When u watch Bellingham at Dortmund u know this is a player for d future. Nobody is saying these kids should not b given d chance to progress but r they really showing signs of improvement? When Gnarcho did dt acrobatic goal we all taught sometin good was happening. Same with Mainoo. To crown it all they will b asking for outrageous wages. To whom much is given much is expected

If Mainoo is asking for anything above 80k, the club should consider selling him.
The reason why the fans are frustrated is because these players that are supposed to be bench options till may be 2 to 3 years time when they have benefited from training and coaching are thrusted straight into te deep end. Mainoo and Garnacho during Fergie days are FA cup and Carling Cup players or dead rubber champions league players. Ronaldo, Fletcher, Richardson, even Saha and JS Park for like their first few years. In Arsenal then Van Persie, Diaby, Sceszceny, Clichy, Walcott etc.
So, my point is we need to tamper our expectations

This Amorim fit get bad mouth

CapitalCee:
If Mainoo is asking for anything above 80k, the club should consider selling him.
The reason why the fans are frustrated is because these players that are supposed to be bench options till may be 2 to 3 years time when they have benefited from training and coaching are thrusted straight into te deep end. Mainoo and Garnacho during Fergie days are FA cup and Carling Cup players or dead rubber champions league players. Ronaldo, Fletcher, Richardson, even Saha and JS Park for like their first few years. In Arsenal then Van Persie, Diaby, Sceszceny, Clichy, Walcott etc.
So, my point is we need to tamper our expectations

Hmmm..l think agree with u here but again do we v option?