₦airaland Forum

Nomercie:
I don't expect Osu people to love ibadan considering that Yoruba people wasted some useless 3 million pigs some years back

On a thread about the wonderful architecture about Benin City ages ago.

You don't have to respond to provocation from Obidients, it causes the rest of us to not enjoy stuff that are worth enjoying because we are having to scroll through much nonsense.

aswani:
On a thread about the wonderful architecture about Benin City ages ago.

You don't have to respond to provocation from Obidients, it causes the rest of us to not enjoy stuff that are worth enjoying because we are having to scroll through much nonsense.

Ok comrade

Nomercie:
I don't expect Osu people to love ibadan considering that Yoruba people wasted some useless 3 million pigs some years back

You are very insensitive, I am neither of the tribe but I’ll pick an Igbo person over a Yoruba double mouthed chameleon anytime.

darthv:
You are very insensitive, I am neither of the tribe but I’ll pick an Igbo person over a Yoruba double mouthed chameleon anytime.

We know Osu when we see one werey alaso

gidgiddy:
Empires are all evil. It doesn't matter if you call it the Bini empire, Oyo empire, or the British empire. All empires are evil

Empire means that at some point, some people left their land to use military force to take over other people's lands, enslave, and subjugate them. What can be good about that?

Bini empire, Oyo empire, and British empire, where all evil

nope they are not all evil. Some is a reaction to past events. The British were conquered by the Romans at one point. They were constantly attacked and raided by the vikings at another point. So learning from history they also had to go conquer others. Same thing with slavery some people were not interested in it. But others were taking them as slaves. So they had to fight back . E.g Dahomey were being taken as slaves by Whydah and Oyo empire. Later they fought back and enslaved yorubas and others

Why didn't Benin discover Portugal and write their history/story

You are Ibo. And anytime una misbehave.... We and North will do a remix of 3 million suyalization

darthv:
You are very insensitive, I am neither of the tribe but I’ll pick an Igbo person over a Yoruba double mouthed chameleon anytime.

id4sho:
Mind you they came first as
# explorers
# traders ( buying and selling resources, slavery)
# military expedition (colonisation)
# missionaries (development)

Our innate greed and backstabbing is shown during trade. Chiefs and followers will start selling each other out. Benin OBA had a Portuguese wife🤷🤦(white toto).
The greed shows our lack of unity, the next thing is to come and take resources and instill discipline (military expedition).
We sold our selves to little things like sugar,gin, mirror, garment. Most notably sugar and gin.

Stop talking ignorant rubbish from your inferiority complex and go on and study proper history.

Who is “we”?

The Benin Empire banned slave raids in its territory. It did not tolerate it.

There’s a reason you see only Yoruba and Igbo slave descendants in the diaspora and never Edo.

Plus you need to go and research the slave trade because it was not as simplistic as your simple mind tells you.

And who told you the Oba had a Portuguese wife? Which Oba? And even if he did, of what impact was that on the British Invasion of 1897, when Benin’s relations with Portugal declined in the 16th century?

Just typing ignorant, self hating rubbish from his empty head.

Dotherightthing:
Why didn't Benin discover Portugal and write their history/story

We know very very little about Benin’s history because it was destroyed, burned to the ground and looted by British forces in 1897.

Whatever records were there were looted or destroyed by the British.

gidgiddy:
Empires are all evil. It doesn't matter if you call it the Bini empire, Oyo empire, or the British empire. All empires are evil

Empire means that at some point, some people left their land to use military force to take over other people's lands, enslave, and subjugate them. What can be good about that?

Bini empire, Oyo empire, and British empire, where all evil

On a human level, empire formation can be brutal, but it is usually on the basis of centralised power over large numbers of people that actual, substantive development can take place.

While your traditional Igbo republican chiefdoms had their advantages, their development was hampered by their fragmented nature and isolationist ideologies, which prevented the accumulation of resources on a large scale, and the centralisation of executive authority both required to drive societal change and economic development & expansion.

Karlovych:
Very beautiful! Meanwhile Ibadan after 54 years...spits

So you want them to demolish their ancestral home It is all these ancestral home you spent millions of naira to visit in western countries like Rome and other places.

If you will want to see modern houses , visit new area of the city.

1691, the Portuguese ship captain Lourenco Pinto observed: “Great Benin, where the king resides, is larger than Lisbon; all the streets run straight and as far as the eye can see. The houses are large, especially that of the king, which is richly decorated and has fine columns. The city is wealthy and industrious. It is so well governed that theft is unknown and the people live in such security that they have no doors to their houses.”

Hehehehe…🤭

Guys pretending they did not read this part….

I thought you people said Oyinbo brought civilisation to us?

Can you apply that quote to any city in Nigeria or AFRICA today?

Or even in the WORLD?

Kemetian:
We know very very little about Benin’s history because it was destroyed, burned to the ground and looted by British forces in 1897.

Whatever records were there were looted or destroyed by the British.

That shouldn't be possible if Benin were that powerful

Kemetian:
On a human level, empire formation can be brutal, but it is usually on the basis of centralised power over large numbers of people that actual, substantive development can take place.

While your traditional Igbo republican chiefdoms had their advantages, their development was hampered by their fragmented nature and isolationist ideologies, which prevented the accumulation of resources on a large scale, and the centralisation of executive authority both required to drive societal change and economic development & expansion.

Look man, there is nothing good about going to another persons land, waging war on them, killing them, taking over their land, enslaving them and exploiting them

That's how and why empires are built. Empires are pure evil

Dotherightthing:
That shouldn't be possible if Benin were that powerful

Come on man.

The British subdued India!

And large parts of China, and even the entire United States! Which was once a British colony!

The entire world was militarily equal (sort of) for thousands of years, as everyone used iron weapons.

But a point came in the 16th/17th century when European leaders, desperate to build up wealth in what was then the world’s poorest continent, Europe, stole the art of using gunpowder mixtures to form explosives, from the Chinese.

The Chinese actually invented the first gun-looking objects, which fired.

But they used gunpowder mixtures mostly for fireworks at traditional festivals, with no intention of mass production for conflict and conquest.

It was ruthless elites in EUROPE who saw the potential to conquer and plunder the world with the firearms as weapons, and enrich their continent beyond their wildest imagination.

They then invested heavily in developing these new weapons called firearms.

The rest of the world were unprepared for their sheer ruthless greed and brutality, allied to massive firepower.

The rest is history.

gidgiddy:
Look man, there is nothing good about going to another persons land, waging war on them, killing them, taking over their land, enslaving them and exploiting them

That's how and why empires are built. Empires are pure evil

Empires were not always expanded through violence. Many times it was via treaties and outright agreement by far flung communities to be part of the kingdom.

All they would be required to do is supply annual tributes to the monarchy at the centre in return for military protection and economic development from the empire.

It wasn’t always about fighting and conflict.

In fact there was always an initial peaceful offer made by the expansionist kingdom for surrounding communities to join.

It wasn’t just straight to war the way you are thinking.

IvarTheBoneless:
You are Ibo. And anytime una misbehave.... We and North will do a remix of 3 million suyalization

you guys know deep down they are far better than you in all ramifications, it’s just jealousy I see.
Go 4ck yourself, I still prefer them to you guys cowards

darthv:
you guys know deep down they are far better than you in all ramifications, it’s just jealousy I see.
Go 4ck yourself, I still prefer them to you guys cowards

I don't blame you denying your heritage. It's a disgraceful one. But only b*stards do that.

Talking about c0wards. Guess who would be diving under the bed on Monday morning ? You and your dad will hold hands under the bed because of a fellow man coughing continents away in Finland

As I said... misbehave and be suyalized

IvarTheBoneless:
I don't blame you denying your heritage. It's a disgraceful one. But only b*stards do that.

Talking about c0wards. Guess who would be diving under the bed on Monday morning ? You and your dad will hold hands under the bed because of a fellow man coughing continents away in Finland

As I said... misbehave and be suyalized

Cowards!
Just pure jealousy!
And Mugu I am not Igbo.

Leave them alone. Jealous fuckard!

Karlovych:
Very beautiful! Meanwhile Ibadan after 54 years...spits

this town can never develop again

Kemetian:
Come on man.

The British subdued India!

And large parts of China, and even the entire United States! Which was once a British colony!

The entire world was militarily equal (sort of) for thousands of years, as everyone used iron weapons.

But a point came in the 16th/17th century when European leaders, desperate to build up wealth in what was then the world’s poorest continent, Europe, stole the art of using gunpowder mixtures to form explosives, from the Chinese.

The Chinese actually invented the first gun-looking objects, which fired.

But they used gunpowder mixtures mostly for fireworks at traditional festivals, with no intention of mass production for conflict and conquest.

It was ruthless elites in EUROPE who saw the potential to conquer and plunder the world with the firearms as weapons, and enrich their continent beyond their wildest imagination.

They then invested heavily in developing these new weapons called firearms.

The rest of the world were unprepared for their sheer ruthless greed and brutality, allied to massive firepower.

The rest is history.

Thanks so much for your superb post, wasted on some here but trust me, I for one are grateful for it.

Kemetian:
Hehehehe…🤭

Guys pretending they did not read this part….

I thought you people said Oyinbo brought civilisation to us?

Can you apply that quote to any city in Nigeria or AFRICA today?

Or even in the WORLD?

For where?

I can’t think of any country on Earth today where you can build a house without doors, because there is no theft.

Yet we think the whites ‘civilised’ us.

They de-civilised us.