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Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by Samirana360(m): 9:16am On Apr 13, 2025
Ur conscience will tell u what to do
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by ogascomax: 9:16am On Apr 13, 2025
There is nothing like restitution in Christianity. Jesus already paid the price so you will be punishing yourself for nothing. Restitution means that you are paying the price and you can't pay the price for your sin. The moment you obtain forgiveness your sin is gone. Just by saying that I receive forgiveness for my sin, the sin is gone. He is faithful and just to forgive us and to cleans us from all unrighteousness.
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by Alex80s(m): 9:16am On Apr 13, 2025
Righteousness2:
Listen!
Eternal life is not a matter of your Belief or your choice.
Irrespective of whatever you claim to believe,
Irrespective of how wonderful or good or religious you claim to be.

If you do not BELIEVE AND SURRENDER TO THE LORDSHIP OF JESUS CHRIST! YOU ARE HEADING SPEEDILY TO HELL!
I'm a Christian, but you need to know what religious tolerance is. Remember, there are over 10,000 religions in the world. Christianity is one of them...
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by Nicoddemus(m): 9:17am On Apr 13, 2025
Proof of repentance is restitution. Zakious comes to mind angry
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by anonimi: 9:18am On Apr 13, 2025
helinues:
That's your belief. Keep it yourself.

Others have contrary opinion
If you’re not a hypocrite then why bother to share your own belief on this thread huh
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by Joeypumpin(m): 9:19am On Apr 13, 2025
helinues:
That's your belief. Keep it yourself.

Others have contrary opinion
Don't mind that guy. He can sound so dumb at times. If u engage him beyond this now, he will start Advertising His church to you.
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by almarthins(m): 9:19am On Apr 13, 2025
helinues:
Be tolerant about your beliefs.

I ain't interested in your Jesus or any acclaimed messiah
Neither is he forcing it on you nor commanding you to be a disciple.
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by IbrahimSola: 9:20am On Apr 13, 2025
When you're truly born again, OLD THINGS PASS AWAY. You become a NEW person because someone had already done the atonement on the cross.

That is why genuine repentance is KEY. Not like some pastors who preach but still hide to commit the same sin and go back to ask for forgiveness.

2 Timothy 2:19 says Let everyone who calls on the name of Jesus (or professes the name of Jesus) DEPART from evil. You can't be born again and still keep doing evil

The solution lies in DEPARTING from evil and not merely professing the name Jesus. Restituting is meaningless because someone had already paid for all your sins.
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by Fiscus105(m): 9:20am On Apr 13, 2025
Christistruth02:
Christians do everything to make things right.

How can Restitution damage?
Go back and read ,I have cited examples.
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by 3nity7: 9:23am On Apr 13, 2025
IbrahimSola:
When you're truly born again, OLD THINGS PASS AWAY. You become a NEW person because someone had already done the atonement on the cross.

That is why genuine repentance is KEY. Not like some pastors who preach but still hide to commit the same sin and go back to ask for forgiveness.

2 Timothy 2:19 says Let everyone who calls on the name of Jesus (or professes the name of Jesus) DEPART from evil. You can't be born again and still keep doing evil

The solution lies in DEPARTING from evil and not merely professing the name Jesus. Restituting is meaningless because someone had already paid for all your sins.
some people like the Op are Pharisees. Imagine him saying without restitution people will go to hell? That's adding to God's word. Abeg I want to go to church let nobody vex me this morning.
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by anonimi: 9:23am On Apr 13, 2025
helinues:
That's the issue with some of you religious people. Why must you force your beliefs on others?

It's illogical to be educated, exposed and still be religious
Please how is it logical to be educated, exposed and still be a tribesman?

edet19892015:
Unless you understand your role in society, you can never make any meaningful contribution.

According to the Greeks, they are three types of people on Earth,
1. The idiots,
2. The tribesmen, and
3. The citizens.

Studies show only 10% of Africans are citizens.
The remaining 90% are either tribesmen or idiots.

1. When the Greeks used the word "Idiot", they did not use it as a curse word.
Idiots are people who just don’t care.
If they sit for exams, they will cheat.
If they are in government they will steal.

An idiot does not care at all, if he eats bananas he throws the peels anywhere instead of putting them in a trash bin.

IDIOTS won't attend monthly neighborhood meetings. They won't pay security dues. They won't contribute to community development. Even when they see or know about something that will harm others in the community they won't report it. When they see/know/have something that will benefit their community they won't share.

In fact, Idiots don't care to register for or vote in an election, yet they complain the most. If they register to vote, IDIOTS will sell their votes for peanuts.

According to the Greeks, some societies have more idiots than tribesmen and citizens.

2. The next set of people are "Tribesmen", these are people that look at everything from the point of view of their tribe.

These are people that believe in you only if you are part of their tribe.
It can be terrible to have a tribesman as a leader, he will alienate the rest.

When the Greeks talk about tribes, it’s not just about ethnicity, they also consider religion, gang membership, group membership, party membership and even cult membership as a tribe.

A great percentage of Africans are tribesmen, because they view everything from the point of view of their tribes. They trust only their tribesmen

3. The last group are "Citizens".
These are people who like to do things the right way.
They will respect traffic light rules even if no one is watching them.

They drive within speed limits.
They respect the laws, and won’t cheat in exams.
In government, they won’t steal.
They are compassionate and give to others to promote their well-being.

Citizens often promote projects that benefit everyone.
The Greeks called this group "The Citizens".

Some countries have more citizens than tribesmen and idiots, others have so many idiots.

A tribesman can become a citizen through orientation.
And an idiot can become a citizen by training and constant enforcement of the law.

But things fall apart if you elect an idiot or tribesman to lead you if he has not been reformed.

Where do you belong? Are you an idiot, a tribesman or a citizen? Reflect on your life.
Reflect about your immediate community, city, state and nation.

#EdetEdemAkpan #Share
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by saintkel(m): 9:24am On Apr 13, 2025
helinues:
That's the issue with some of you religious people. Why must you force your beliefs on others?

It's illogical to be educated, exposed and still be religious
did he use ak47 to force u?
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by Righteousness2(m):
Alex80s:
I'm a Christian, but you need to know what religious tolerance is. Remember, there are over 10,000 religions in the world. Christianity is one of them...
You a Christian who does not know JESUS CHRIST.
There are no difference btw you and the guy.
There is no difference btw a Christian by religion and a heathen.

If you know JESUS CHRIST and you understand the importance of your soul in Eternity, you will be wiser.
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by helinues: 9:26am On Apr 13, 2025
anonimi:
Please how is it logical to be educated, exposed and still be a tribesman?
Aren't you tired of this your copy and paste boring epistle?
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by anonimi: 9:27am On Apr 13, 2025
3nity7:
Oga give us the passage Jesus said so.
Luke 19: 1-9

Jesus Christ did not declare salvation until Zaccheus had promised restitution.
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by Nelochukwu: 9:28am On Apr 13, 2025
helinues:
That's the issue with some of you religious people. Why must you force your beliefs on others?

It's illogical to be educated, exposed and still be religious
Boss this not a matter of education oo. Your education is limited. Ur soul will be judged. Think of it. If there be earthly judges y do u think dere r not spiritual judges? That u can live as you like? Surrender to Jesus He died for us not to suffer eternal judgement. And no I'm not speaking as these pastors speak in lfaxt I'm against them cause they have taught a truncated gospel. A gospel that fills their pockets and leave their members improvised. I'm talking of the true gospel that wants to save ur soul from hell. No be education ooo as d natural man cannot understand the things of God
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by anonimi: 9:30am On Apr 13, 2025
helinues:
Aren't you tired of this your copy and paste boring epistle?
Are you tired of reading Middle East history books of what happened several centuries and even millennia ago huh
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by helinues: 9:30am On Apr 13, 2025
anonimi:
Are you tired of reading Middle East history books of what happened several centuries and even millennia ago huh
I have no business with any religion.

You religious people reason alike
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by donmixc: 9:31am On Apr 13, 2025
helinues:
Aren't you tired of this your copy and paste boring epistle?
You are the on who dish out incoherent boring epistles
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by almarthins(m): 9:31am On Apr 13, 2025
Alex80s:
I'm a Christian, but you need to know what religious tolerance is. Remember, there are over 10,000 religions in the world. Christianity is one of them...
Jesus was unapologetic: except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. The other religion will use force, but has Christian done that?
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by chrisdstar: 9:32am On Apr 13, 2025
IbrahimSola:
When you're truly born again, OLD THINGS PASS AWAY. You become a NEW person because someone had already done the atonement on the cross.

That is why genuine repentance is KEY. Not like some pastors who preach but still hide to commit the same sin and go back to ask for forgiveness.

2 Timothy 2:19 says Let everyone who calls on the name of Jesus (or professes the name of Jesus) DEPART from evil. You can't be born again and still keep doing evil

The solution lies in DEPARTING from evil and not merely professing the name Jesus. Restituting is meaningless because someone had already paid for all your sins.
This is how you guys mislead people to hell.
So a woman who committed paternity fraud should move on like nothing happened, seeing her husband and children everyday, knowing fully well that she is leading a deceitful life. This is why on the last day a lot will cry and say "Lord, but we prophesied in your name and also healed the sick in your name"
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by donmixc: 9:32am On Apr 13, 2025
helinues:
I have no business with any religion.

You religious people reason alike
just like you southerners are alike

Betrayals😒
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by Truthseeker10: 9:35am On Apr 13, 2025
Righteousness2:
Religion will not and cannot save you or I.
Religion cannot take you or anyone to Eternal life.

ONLY A GENUIE RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS CHRIST Will grant us Eternal Life in Heaven
What is the meaning of the word "Religion"?
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by Truthseeker10: 9:45am On Apr 13, 2025
Nelochukwu:
Boss this not a matter of education oo. Your education is limited. Ur soul will be judged. Think of it. If there be earthly judges y do u think dere r not spiritual judges? That u can live as you like? Surrender to Jesus He died for us not to suffer eternal judgement. And no I'm not speaking as these pastors speak in lfaxt I'm against them cause they have taught a truncated gospel. A gospel that fills their pockets and leave their members improvised. I'm talking of the true gospel that wants to save ur soul from hell. No be education ooo as d natural man cannot understand the things of God
Good and bad people go to hell when they die.
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by 3nity7: 9:45am On Apr 13, 2025
anonimi:
Luke 19: 1-9

Jesus Christ did not declare salvation until Zaccheus had promised restitution.
Luke.19.7 - And when they saw it, they all murmured, saying, That he was gone to be guest with a man that is a sinner.
Luke.19.8 - And Zacchaeus stood, and said unto the Lord; Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold.
Luke.19.9 - And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham.

And Jesus asked him to restitute? The guy just did it willingly. And if you read verses 9 the last sentence, Jesus said he is also a Child of Abraham.

This is not the verses we should even be deliberating on. If restitution is so important as you guys claim. The Epistles would have done justice to it and it would have been stated as a necessity for salvation but the bible say

Rom.10.9 - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom.10.10 - For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Why do you guys like adding yoke on peoples neck
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by IkePeters(m): 9:49am On Apr 13, 2025
You have to make as much restitution as you can and as lead by the Holy Spirit 😇


cutecommend:
If you have stolen money or things in your office, stole from friend or neighbour, forged certificate, had children from paternity fraud, committed adultery, lied against someone, falsely accuse someone, duped people, did internet fraud, slept with someone's wife, slept with someone's husband, slept with your EX few days/weeks etc. to your wedding, killed a neighbour and covered it up, slandered someone, used a close person for rituals, poisoned someone, tied someone's destiny with juju e.t.c, when you genuinely repent from sin, do you still need to go clear your conscience by apologising to those people or their loved ones, or are you to move forward?

When you repent genuinely, God forgives you totally and you begin to enjoy His presence. But as you begin to move on, the HolySpirit will begin to tell you of some things you need to go and make peace about, stolen things to return e.t c. It could be people you hurt so bad that you need to apologize to. At this moment if you snub such leading of the HolySpirit, you become disobedient and it is sin. The HolySpirit is willing to assist you if you pray to Him for grace to make peace with those you have offended.

When the HolySpirit reminds you of something to confess, restitute e.t.c, if you refuse to do it, you will not enter heaven. And yes, the HolySpirit helps a lot if you pray for His assistance in make peace with anyone. He is a Helper in many things.

Pray this morning: Lord Jesus Christ, please forgive me all my sins, come into my life and be my Lord and personal Saviour in Jesus name. Amen.
Attend a good church also.

Happy Sunday to you.
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by Jokerman(m): 9:54am On Apr 13, 2025
helinues:
Be tolerant about your beliefs.

I ain't interested in your Jesus or any acclaimed messiah
I hope it won't be too late when you'd be interested
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by Jokerman(m): 9:56am On Apr 13, 2025
Alex80s:
I'm a Christian, but you need to know what religious tolerance is. Remember, there are over 10,000 religions in the world. Christianity is one of them...
A Christian will not tolerate souls going to hell fire .

So check your Christianity again
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by naturefellow(m):
helinues:
Move on. Religious or not, you can never be 100% perfect in attitude and behavior
you're a NARCISSIST! Little wonder you bask in ignorance and folly.

Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by pongwa(m): 10:02am On Apr 13, 2025
cutecommend:
If you have stolen money or things in your office, stole from friend or neighbour, forged certificate, had children from paternity fraud, committed adultery, lied against someone, falsely accuse someone, duped people, did internet fraud, slept with someone's wife, slept with someone's husband, slept with your EX few days/weeks etc. to your wedding, killed a neighbour and covered it up, slandered someone, used a close person for rituals, poisoned someone, tied someone's destiny with juju e.t.c, when you genuinely repent from sin, do you still need to go clear your conscience by apologising to those people or their loved ones, or are you to move forward?

When you repent genuinely, God forgives you totally and you begin to enjoy His presence. But as you begin to move on, the HolySpirit will begin to tell you of some things you need to go and make peace about, stolen things to return e.t c. It could be people you hurt so bad that you need to apologize to. At this moment if you snub such leading of the HolySpirit, you become disobedient and it is sin. The HolySpirit is willing to assist you if you pray to Him for grace to make peace with those you have offended.

When the HolySpirit reminds you of something to confess, restitute e.t.c, if you refuse to do it, you will not enter heaven. And yes, the HolySpirit helps a lot if you pray for His assistance in make peace with anyone. He is a Helper in many things.

Pray this morning: Lord Jesus Christ, please forgive me all my sins, come into my life and be my Lord and personal Saviour in Jesus name. Amen.
Attend a good church also.

Happy Sunday to you.
restitution is a must as it shows true repentance. Faith doesn't work with wrong doing
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by Foresight55: 10:16am On Apr 13, 2025
Where is HEAVEN? Where is HELL? These both ring's in our mind. The best life you can lived is submitting to the Holy spirit and it comes when you submit your mind to JESUS CHRIST AUTHORITY. Heaven comes when you accept Christ, Hell comes when you reject him. You can't die to enjoyed Heaven and you can't die to be in Hell. All this place's happens here on earth. John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Shalom
Re: Should A Born Again Christian Restitute Or Just Move Forward In Faith? by Apostlenathan1(m): 10:16am On Apr 13, 2025
cutecommend:
...if you refuse to do it, you will not enter heaven.
Such a bold statement negating the totality of Christ's sacrifice to provide Total salvation.
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