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achorladey:
Out of all the 8 the most dangerous of them all is number 3. If anybody sees that you are beginning to investigate them or doubt their belief and the elders called you for questioning, the most important question out of the eight is number 3. It will be put to you, do you accept........



A No answer here, kiss yourself goodbye and taking on the label APOSTATE. Nothing can save you from here.


You can see it was stated all of Jesus property on earth belongs only to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. So whatever others are doing as long as they don't bow to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses that thing is not Jesus property therefore useless and fit for destruction.

No wonder it's termed a cult 🤔. Things are really happening!

Gabrielshow24:
No wonder it's termed a cult 🤔. Things are really happening!

The characteristics that identify a cult is largely present. 😂😂🤣😂

This clown show still goes on?!😄 I believe Yhwh who is not an author of confusion would calm the circus.

Lucifyre:
This clown show still goes on?!😄 I believe Yhwh who is not an author of confusion would calm the circus.

These people aren't worshipers of Yahweh but since you're not interested in knowing the truth it's OK!

MaxInDHouse:
These people aren't worshipers of Yahweh but since you're not interested in knowing the truth it's OK!

Truth is not subjective, truth is demonstratable. So whatever you parade around as truth is nothing more than absolute delusion.

Lucifyre:
Truth is demonstratable.

Faith is the assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities that are not seen. Hebrews 11:1

YES! True faith must be demonstratable but it's like you've sealed your heart against it so there's no way you can understand if you won't listen to know how true faith works.

Can't you sense that something strange is happening?
All these people don't have any group they can present yet they belong to different religions claiming Christians. You on the other hand ridicule the God they all claimed they worship yet they are quick to support whatever you say against a group that takes the same God they claim to believe more seriously than any religion.

Well the truth is that only JWs have what you want: Truth that's demonstratable!

Remember only a demonstratable truth could be assessed:

APOPTOSIS:
Jehovah's Witness is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

All others belong to what we all know as DELUSION or CREDULITY.

MaxInDHouse:
Faith is the assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities that are not seen. Hebrews 11:1

YES! True faith must be demonstratable but it's like you've sealed your heart against it so there's no way you can understand if you won't listen to know how true faith works.

Can't you sense that something strange is happening?
All these people don't have any group they can present yet they belong to different religions claiming Christians. You on the other hand ridicule the God they all claimed they worship yet they are quick to support whatever you say against a group that takes the same God they claim to believe more seriously than any religion.

Well the truth is that only JWs have what you want: Truth that's demonstratable!

Remember only a demonstratable truth could be assessed:



All others belong to what we all know as DELUSION or CREDULITY.

This is where the problem lies

Judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

Actions based on

what we all know as DELUSION or CREDULITY

Even people deceive others with their actions. People are actors for a reason and they will indeed act not only what you are not told but what they want your madness and insanities peddling brains wants to see

Lucifyre:
Truth is not subjective, truth is demonstratable. So whatever you parade around as truth is nothing more than absolute delusion.

Looool!

MaxInDHouse:
These people aren't worshipers of Yahweh but since you're not interested in knowing the truth it's OK!

Those people knows you are worshipers of Jehovah. The name of your God they gave your GODS of men housed in USA free without charge.

@Lucifyre
Can you imagine how evil this person can be? Luke 6:45

achorladey:
Even people deceive others with their actions. People are actors for a reason and they will indeed act not only what you are not told.

So millions of JWs throughout the earth are actually acting or demonstrating what they have in mind? Hebrews 11:1

APOPTOSIS:
Jehovah's Witness is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

This is what someone said about millions of JWs from different countries and continent throughout the world but it's nothing strange because according to evil minds these people are all good actors trained to act that way! Isaiah 5:20

MaxInDHouse:
@Lucifyre
Can you imagine how evil this person can be? Luke 6:45

So millions of JWs throughout the earth are actually acting or demonstrating what they have in mind? Hebrews 11:1

This is what someone said about millions of JWs from different countries and continent throughout the world but it's nothing strange because according to evil minds these people are all good actors trained to act that way! Isaiah 5:20

I know your madness and insanities peddling brains cannot withstand the fact the lies and manipulations packed into your madness and insanities peddling brains are exposed here.

Can you imagine how evil this person can be?

It remains in the realm of imaginations peddling not reality.

Luke 6:45

A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of.

Some that is good is different from an actor that is acting good or made to act as being good.

Now here is my point.....

“If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give what is good to those who ask Him!

Now your correct your imagination in that your madness and insanities peddling brains

So millions of JWs throughout the earth are actually acting or demonstrating what they have in mind? Hebrews 11:1

Blind guides see and those following them too in their brains believe their guides sees and not blind but they are in reality blind. Jesus told those Pharisees that they are blind, they told him they are not blind. The followers of those Pharisees see to but to Jesus they are blind like their leaders

This is what someone said about millions of JWs from different countries and continent throughout the world but it's nothing strange because according to evil minds these people are all good actors trained to act that way! Isaiah 5:20

There are thousands of such post that states otherwise on this platform and even inside your religious publications the atrocities committed by floor and prominent members

achorladey:
There are thousands of such post that states otherwise on this platform.

A hundred million even ten billion posts aren't weighty enough to refute this:

APOPTOSIS:
Jehovah's Witness is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

achorladey:
Why do Jehovah’s Witnesses say they are God’s organization so matter of fact as though such an audacious claim is an undisputable fact?

Here is how one person sees this claim.

"The entire Jehovah’s Witness religion is founded on unsubstantiated hubristic claims which are continually repeated until they are assumed by adherents to be a proven fact.

Never is this more evident than when the beliefs of a Jehovah’s Witness are successfully challenged. The more compelling the evidence against them, the more they resort to repeating their convictions with a sense of insistence, as if they are chanting a mantra.

Confirmation bias is prevalent in all religious ideologies, but particularly with Jehovah’s Witnesses. The reason for this is that their evangelical work puts them in contact with many rival belief systems.

In order to overcome challenges to their beliefs and to prevent any doubts creeping in, Jehovah’s Witnesses have to retreat to their echo chamber to bolster their faith.

By repeatedly discussing their beliefs with fellow believers, they convince themselves that what they teach is the only ‘truth’. As well as supporting their own need for certainty, they in turn are helping to reinforce the delusions of other members.

There is a very interesting logical fallacy which highlights this method of confirmation which Jehovah’s Witnesses use, called ‘proof by repeated assertion’.

Here is a brief description:-

“Proof by repeated assertion is an informal fallacy in which a proposition is repeatedly restated regardless of contradiction and refutation. The proposition can sometimes be repeated until any challenges or opposition ceases, letting the proponent assert it as fact, and solely due to a lack of challengers. In other cases, it’s repetition may be cited as evidence of its truth, in a variant of the appeal to authority fallacy.

…In its extreme form, it can also be a form of brainwashing.”

At their meetings, Jehovah’s Witnesses are trained by role playing, acting out the arguments they regularly encounter in their ministry. However, they only ever consider the scenarios which present the softest resistance to their beliefs.

By constantly ‘overcoming’ the more easy arguments during practice sessions, Jehovah’s Witnesses are lulled into a false sense of security, believing that they have watertight answers to all the questions and objections they can expect to encounter in their ministry.

However, in real life JWs are occasionally confronted with much more profound and difficult challenges to their faith which they have not previously encountered. They invariably refrain from directly arguing or debating on these topics, but instead use deflection tactics such as referring the questioner to their website, and then they quickly retreat.

Later, when no longer under direct pressure, JWs are likely to replay the difficult challenge over in their mind. If there are no set answers in the Watchtower literature, they are compelled to fabricate a refutation themselves, perhaps by looking for relevant bible verses. The motive for this is often more to reassure themselves than to answer the challenger.

But many times there is no valid refutation. A frequent recourse if they can't find a gratifying way to refute the objection to their religion, is to vilify the character of the challenger, as a means to negate the challenge.

They are then compelled to use flawed logic to find a ‘solution’ to the challenge. Once they have an idea, they cling to it and repeat it, however false or illogical it is, until it becomes an ‘established’ counter argument (at least in their minds).

A classic, often repeated example is as follows. After pointing out a flaw in the Organisation they will reply by saying:-

“Show me an alternative religion that has more truth than ours”.

If their adversary fails or declines to suggest an appropriate alternative religion, the JW erroneously concludes that this is decisive evidence that theirs is the true religion by default.

Many people who have had encounters with Jehovah’s Witnesses will recognise this trait. Very often, when Jehovah’s Witness are confronted with contrary evidence, they simply repeat an invalid point over and over, even though they have been presented with well-founded objections or incontrovertible evidence.

After several such encounters, Jehovah’s Witnesses begin to have misplaced confidence in their false reasoning, which leads them to the absurd conclusion that their religion is the only one God is backing.

The Watchtower literature is also a factor which builds confidence in JWs that their religion is God’s organisation. The articles repeatedly make the hubristic claim that they are God’s ‘channel’, that God is using the ‘Faithful Slave’ to convey his message, etc.

Despite the lack of sufficient evidence, the constant repetition of these claims forms a confirmation bias in the minds of the followers, and these invalid assumptions become an established fact.

One only has to read the posts of many JWs on Quora to see this process in motion. There are countless answers from JW apologists in which they claim to be God’s people.

Remaining in an environment where this predominant attitude is constantly played out, has convinced millions of followers that their religion is God’s organisation, even though they lack sufficient evidence to back up this baseless claim."


cc Sand2022, Gabrielshow24

I think this is true. When a strange teaching comes from the GB, some brothers see to speak against it initially like the trouser change. Many didn't like that change, but now, it appears those who initially hated it are now accepting it.

What happens again is, the community of JWs are programmed to follow the GB, so even if you don't accept it, you resistance can only last for a few time. You can't even voice out to your fellow brother that much about it because he might start seeing you as an apostate. So the entire system is GB focused.

Another thing is that they will through organized talks and watchtower study pa in NT any who oppose their views as enemies of Jehovah. It is a high control group.

achorladey:
This is what determines your being one of Jehovah’s witness

Approved association with Jehovah’s Witnesses requires accepting the entire range of the true teachings of the Bible, including those Scriptural beliefs that are unique to Jehovah’s Witnesses. What do such beliefs include?




1. That the great issue before humankind is the rightfulness of Jehovah’s sovereignty, which is why he has allowed wickedness so long. (Ezekiel 25:17)*

2. That Jesus Christ had a prehuman existence and is subordinate to his heavenly Father. (John 14:28)

3. That there is a “faithful and discreet slave” upon earth today ‘entrusted with all of Jesus’ earthly interests,’ which slave is associated with the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses. (Matthew 24:45-47)

4. That 1914 marked the end of the Gentile Times and the establishment of the Kingdom of God in the heavens, as well as the time for Christ’s foretold presence. (Luke 21:7-24; Revelation 11:15–12:10)

5. That only 144,000 Christians will receive the heavenly reward. (Revelation 14:1, 3)

6. That Armageddon, referring to the battle of the great day of God the Almighty, is near. (Revelation 16:14, 16; 19:11-21)

7. That it will be followed by Christ’s Millennial Reign, which will restore an earth-wide paradise.

8. That the first to enjoy it will be the present “great crowd” of Jesus’ “other sheep.”​—John 10:16; Revelation 7:9-17; 21:3, 4.

@ Gabrielshow24 tell me how Sand2022 will survive this? You will see all Sand2022 thread are basically exposing all those eight beliefs they say is unique to Jehovah’s witnesses

I can't survive it. That's why I resigned, stopped preaching with them and started a fading process. I am technically not a Jehovah's witness as your post shows. I don't even tell people that I am a JW. I've already told those in my office that I no longer hold to JW beliefs, but you know, the friends in the church don't make big deal about church name and they don't even understand what being a JW really means, some still address me as a JW even when I join them to sing praises and pray together, something I wasn't doing before. My Mom and family members in the village who are in the church, I've also informed them that I no longer hold to JW beliefs.

I like being called a Christian than being called a JW. It is true that I am not officially removed from the cong.

They harbor a lot of false teachings, so where will I start and where will I end, how can I even pretend? The more I research more topics, the more errors I see. It's too much bros.

Gabrielshow24:
What a hypocrite! 😂 When CJStars asked him to stay off his mention, he ignored it. Now he’s suddenly demanding that no one mention him at all! 👀

Oh really? Someone told him to cease mentioning him, he refused?

achorladey:
Obviously yes, the same people that MaxInDHouse said Jesus worship with only in Jerusalem and not anywhere else

Of course, but he won't just accept the obvious truth.

achorladey:
Something we saw from afar. He simply wants to tarnish your image because you kept exposing their beliefs. Had you stated you were disfellowhipped or disassociated, it will be easy for him to say others should run away from you the apostate. You are not giving him for that the next step is to say you and see you as a mad person.


The problem I have with him now is, he has always said they are true disciples of Jesus Christ when others call them mad. Does that same standard applies to you?

MaxInDHouse wetin be the response from your madness and insanities peddling brains?

My brother, only God will help us. When I was active, I didn't see this truth as well. The JWs will persecute others for their faith, but they don't see that as persecution, but when it is done to them, it is persecution. See him calling me names, that is an obvious persecution for my biblical stand.

Many die-hard JWs won't allow their relatives who visit their house to sing church song in their house. Many won't allow you to attend your own church while staying with them. Some witnesses will tell that there relative to either stop singing church song, join them to the kingdom hall or go back home. This is a form of persecution.

achorladey:
It givedyhim room to peddle the stupidity of his madness and insanities peddling brains

Just take it easy with the strong words you use against him. I think we all have different perspectives. Do you know what I ask myself sometimes? God knows all false teachings and wrong understanding we all have kn earth today. Can you imagine if God will use that to judge any of us? All of us will fail the exam because even when we think that doctrine A is correct, it may be wrong, only that we just don't know.

God really have much patience and endurance for our mistakes and misunderstandings.

Forget the individual theological position, Jehovah loves each of us very much. You might be in the area with Max in God's kingdom. Religious spirit has not been helpful in uniting the body of Christ, only division.

Sand2022:
My brother, only God will help us. When I was active, I didn't see this truth as well. The JWs will persecute others for their faith, but they don't see that as persecution, but when it is done to them, it is persecution. See him calling me names, that is an obvious persecution for my biblical stand.

Many die-hard JWs won't allow their relatives who visit their house to sing church song in their house. Many won't allow you to attend your own church while staying with them. Some witnesses will tell that there relative to either stop singing church song, join them to the kingdom hall or go back home. This is a form of persecution.

I agree, they don't believe they persecute others for their faith because the only thing called truth is from them and originate from them, so when they treat other Christian denomination members badly they are only in a way carrying out God's judgment on vengeance as it were on those they call Satan's agents.

The whole book of revelation they published is filled with how God is using them to carry out vengeance on false Christians and Satan's agent

It is a religious organization that don't practice what they preach and don't believe the Golden rule applies to them.

Sand2022:
Of course, but he won't just accept the obvious truth.

Definitely he won't, accepting it will mean feeding from what they call Devil’s table even when it is clear those sayings came from the Bible.

MaxInDHouse:
Of course he did!
When Judaists questioned him why he's always criticizing their leaders Jesus didn't say he wants to correct them rather this is what transpired:

in response the Jews said to him: “What sign can you show us, since you are doing these things?”

Jesus replied to them: “Tear down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”

But he was talking about the temple of his body. John 2:18-21

Jesus claims to end Judaism and replace it with another form of worship which is what his disciples began in the upper room on the day of Pentecost.

So his consistence at the temple is to surrender his life in order for a new dawn to begin in the life of faithful people the temple in Jerusalem was destroyed according to Jesus' prophecy and Christianity replaced Judaism.

I think I posted more than what you just quoted.

If joining there worship was a sin, Jesus wouldn't have done it, and also stated that even after the establishment of Christianity, Jesus apostles also went to the temple. So this is not an escape route.

I don't see the GB joining a church just so that they can get followers

achorladey:
I agree, they don't believe they persecute others for their faith because the only thing called truth is from them and originate from them, so when they treat other Christian denomination members badly they are only in a way carrying out God's judgment on vengeance as it were on those they call Satan's agents.

The whole book of revelation they published is filled with how God is using them to carry out vengeance on false Christians and Satan's agent

It is a religious organization that don't practice what they preach and don't believe the Golden rule applies to them.

That book title seem to carry the notion they had that this system won't go beyond the 20th century. Revelation- It's Grand Climax, at hand.

Sand2022:
Oh really? Someone told him to cease mentioning him, he refused?

Yes, countless times 😂!

Sand2022:
I can't survive it. That's why I resigned, stopped preaching with them and started a fading process. I am technically not a Jehovah's witness as your post shows. I don't even tell people that I am a JW. I've already told those in my office that I no longer hold to JW beliefs, but you know, the friends in the church don't make big deal about church name and they don't even understand what being a JW really means, some still address me as a JW even when I join them to sing praises and pray together, something I wasn't doing before. My Mom and family members in the village who are in the church, I've also informed them that I no longer hold to JW beliefs.

I like being called a Christian than being called a JW. It is true that I am not officially removed from the cong.

They harbor a lot of false teachings, so where will I start and where will I end, how can I even pretend? The more I research more topics, the more errors I see. It's too much bros.

E no dey easy at all. Na me know how I started my investigation and even tested those findings to check how true it is. I can confidently say even here on Nairaland the investigation and experiment turned out to be true. That's why when I found out the very same thing that they use in condemning others is the very same thing they do then I know staying is IDOLATRY basically worshiping men who say they are apostles but are liars

I know most of the Jehovah's witnesses on this platform while I was still active and locked in the believe will readily support my post. Commend the knowledge and how verse I am even when I still be ordinary publisher.

The moment they detected a slight change in the way I express those beliefs, they come raging at me. Then I know they are always about you towing the line no matter how glaring the lies are.

Is it not same Jehovah's witnesses on this platform that tried everything in their powerful to lie that child abusers are carried not by real Jehovah's witnesses, Is it not same Jehovah's witnesses that was trying to tell me Christians have two hopes when the Bible says one when I challenged that belief?

Sand2022:
I think this is true. When a strange teaching comes from the GB, some brothers see to speak against it initially like the trouser change. Many didn't like that change, but now, it appears those who initially hated it are now accepting it.

What happens again is, the community of JWs are programmed to follow the GB, so even if you don't accept it, you resistance can only last for a few time. You can't even voice out to your fellow brother that much about it because he might start seeing you as an apostate. So the entire system is GB focused.

Another thing is that they will through organized talks and watchtower study pa in NT any who oppose their views as enemies of Jehovah. It is a high control group.

Gbam, amongst all the publications the GB cherish most is the Watchtower study edition. It is there the indoctrination of all members take place. That's why the Watchtower conductor are hardly changed or rotated. They must be proper organization centric man. Who is ready to hold all doctrines unique to Jehovah’s Witnesses. Any dissenting comments are shut down and those persons if they continue will never be called to contribute during the study.

Like someone said, on Sundays they are not studying the Bible but Watchtower

MaxInDHouse:
A hundred million even ten billion posts aren't weighty enough to refute this:

That's why I don't need to start referencing it billions of times because it's a done deal in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses that they are hypocrites about all these things. You MaxInDHouse can attest to it. They are sinners and influenced by the Devil to carry out notorious acts such as wife swapping. Even husbands leading their wives to commit blatant adultery in marriage paapaa.

A hundred million even ten billion posts aren't weighty enough to refute this

In your madness and insanities peddling brains that's why you call me evil over the matter. That's where your pains and lamentations about just one post breaks the camels back

Sand2022:
Oh really? Someone told him to cease mentioning him, he refused?

The guy had to refer Max to a neuropsychiatric hospital to sort out his mental retardation.

Sand2022:
Just take it easy with the strong words you use against him. I think we all have different perspectives. Do you know what I ask myself sometimes? God knows all false teachings and wrong understanding we all have kn earth today. Can you imagine if God will use that to judge any of us? All of us will fail the exam because even when we think that doctrine A is correct, it may be wrong, only that we just don't know.

God really have much patience and endurance for our mistakes and misunderstandings.

Forget the individual theological position, Jehovah loves each of us very much. You might be in the area with Max in God's kingdom. Religious spirit has not been helpful in uniting the body of Christ, only division.

I am not using strong words against him. Someone read most of my comments and words I used while conversing with MaxInDHouse and said I am not abusing him at all or using strong words on him. He added, it was just a proper description of MaxInDHouse on Nairaland.


I told you that the main purpose of this thread was for Max to tarnish your image, rubbish you so that anybody reading your threads exposing their beliefs and how it does not align with scriptures won't bother reading. He will have easily say Sand2022 is an APOSTATE but because you said you are PIMO he knows you have gotten to that extent here. So what can he do? Call you insane, mad and added you can never be his brother

Do you know what I ask myself sometimes? God knows all false teachings and wrong understanding we all have kn earth today. Can you imagine if God will use that to judge any of us? All of us will fail the exam because even when we think that doctrine A is correct, it may be wrong, only that we just don't know. God really have much patience and endurance for our mistakes and misunderstandings.

This is the more reason I just looooool about Jehovah's Witnesses and the mentality they pack into their brains. A former member of the religious organization stated they like to play God and they have shown over the years to be terrible about it.

Forget the individual theological position, Jehovah loves each of us very much. You might be in the area with Max in God's kingdom.

I readily want to see the shock in MaxInDHouse face when that happens because one of those he refer to as faithless miscreants in his madness and insanities peddling brains gets to be in that Kingdom

Religious spirit has not been helpful in uniting the body of Christ, only division.

The reason we do what we do here. We are trying as much as possible to make people see that that religious spirit of comparing a Christian religious denomination with another and seeing one as superior to the other is smallness of the mind about what Jesus taught and even his disciples that followed him after his death.

Sand2022:
So the entire system is GB focused.

This is what makes Jehovah's Witnesses organization the only true religion.

It's either you adhere to the teachings of those taking the lead {Hebrews 13:7} or take your leave to prove that you're not ready to be a part of such a system! 1John 2:19

That's what orderliness means!

Gabrielshow24:
This is a foolish argument! Ever since I’ve known you, whenever you’re challenged logically, you resort to "church affiliations" as if they’re some nugget of gold! 🤨 Unfortunately, they’re not gold; they’re more like corroded iron!

I’m far more concerned with the word of the Bible, Christ, and what He stands for than to stoop so low as to engage in "church wars" with you. Get your arguments together, make them coherent, and stop with this sheepish narrative—it’s become stale at this point! 😂

When he asked for the name of your church.

To him, he is expecting you to either mention RCCG, MFM, Deeper Life, Winners, Lord Chosen or any big church names.

So that he will quickly post those screenshot images on his phone about Kumuyi or Adeboye of what one blog says about them.

If you tell him a church he has never heard the name before, he still wants you to claim affiliation with those big churches in Nigeria by fire by force.

So him asking you for your church name, it's not for any tangible reason but to speak against Kumuyi or Adeboye or MFM.

MaxInDHouse:
This is what makes Jehovah's Witnesses organization the only true religion.

It's either you adhere to the teachings of those taking the lead {Hebrews 13:7} or take your leave to prove that you're not ready to be a part of such a system! 1John 2:19

That's what orderliness means!

Looool what a fraud that is as means to identify true religion.

Had a Catholic worked up to the madness and insanities peddling brains saying the entire system is Pope focused and that's what make the Catholics the only true religion the lies and manipulations filled brains will say otherwise