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Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by Emusan(m): 9:41am On May 29, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus COMMANDED his disciples to go preaching and teaching from house to house and door to door
Where did Jesus Christ command this?

and to baptize them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit {Matthew 28:19-20}
The verses you cited didn't correlate with your point.

but at Pentecost when Jews approached the disciples and humbled themselves before the followers of Christ asking them what they need to do to be saved {Act 2:37} Peter said:

REPENT, and let each one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the free gift of the holy spirit. For the promise is to you and your children, and to all those who are far away, to all those whom Jehovah our God may call to himself." Act 2:38-39

Question!

*From what do Jews need to REPENT?
Well stated in that same verse from their SINS.

*Why did Peter say the Jews only need to be baptized in Jesus name instead of the name of the father and the son and the holy spirit changing what Jesus taught them to do?
Correction!

Peter didn't say "ONLY" that is your own injection.

because The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are ONE with one SINGULAR NAME as mentioned by Jesus.

Question should've been, WHAT IS THAT SINGULAR NAME?

*What promise of God for only the Jews and their children was Peter talking about?
You have to inject Watchtower dogman here.

Again, nothing like "ONLY" but you have to insert that for your own agenda.

This is after you quoted the scripture written in plain English and still decided to cherry pick the parts that suit you.

Here is the scripture again.
“REPENT, and let each one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the free gift of the holy spirit. For the promise is to you and your children, and to all those who are far away, to all those whom Jehovah our God may call to himself." Act 2:38-39

Why did you leave the @color part and inserted the word "ONLY" in other to justify JEWS being the people having that promise?

Yet you'll still be claiming today that The Holy Spirit is with Watchtower who are never a descendant of any original Jewish people.
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by MaxInDHouse(op): 9:47am On May 29, 2025
Emusan:
Where did Jesus Christ command this?
The verses you cited didn't correlate with your point. Well stated in that same verse from their SINS.Correction!
Peter didn't say "ONLY" that is your own injection. because The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are ONE with one SINGULAR NAME as mentioned by Jesus.
Question should've been, WHAT IS THAT SINGULAR NAME? You have to inject Watchtower dogman here. Again, nothing like "ONLY" but you have to insert that for your own agenda.This is after you quoted the scripture written in plain English and still decided to cherry pick the parts that suit you.
Here is the scripture again.
“REPENT, and let each one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the free gift of the holy spirit. For the promise is to you and your children, and to all those who are far away, to all those whom Jehovah our God may call to himself." Act 2:38-39 Why did you leave the @color part and inserted the word "ONLY" in other to justify JEWS being the people having that promise? Yet you'll still be claiming today that The Holy Spirit is with Watchtower who are never a descendant of any original Jewish people.
Get your students baptized in whatever name you think we are doing what we know! smiley

Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by Emusan(m): 9:55am On May 29, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Get your students baptized in whatever name you think we are doing what we know! smiley
You can't explain how the word ONLY was used by you when it was not found in the same verses you quoted.

You can't explain why the promise of God is not LIMITED to Jews ONLY but to those afar of and to those Jehovah will bring to Himself as you wrongly explain in the OP

Well, you brought the baptismal verses yourself and that's how we do to our new family members.

Do Watchtower baptize in the NAME of The Father and of The Son and of The Holy Spirit?

You can't even post the evidence of the people you baptized in your hall here in Nigeria grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by MightySparrow: 10:03am On May 29, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Happiness starts from having the same leader because all followers will adhere to his orders so that when anyone comes around to create enmity among them they will all shun the person.
That's what makes Jehovah's Witnesses One happy global family where we can't think of raising weapons against ourselves because someone orders us to hate our brothers in Christ.
Do you think members of your own church in both Russia and Ukraine can shun the orders from Putin and Zelensky because of the love they share with their fellow believers in Christ? John 13:34-35


John has answered this question:

They went out from us, but they were not of our sort; for if they had been of our sort, they would have remained with us. But they went out so that it might be shown that not all are of our sort. 1John 2:19

Do you think those who openly told you that they are PHYSICALLY in our midst but MENTALLY far away are part of our spiritual family? 1Corinthans 11:19

If you are sincere and honest hearted why not trail these so called PIMO and see how they are seriously into political matters?
So how can they be true JWs if they allow politics to create division among those they called "brothers in Christ"?smiley
Which family is not happy?

The PIMO are entangled in the Crisis of Conscience (a book authored by one of your elders, Raymond Franz), countless thousands are not bold enough to get out the organization for the fear of what will befall them - a life better envisaged than experienced.



A family filled with tough happiness.gringrin
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by Maximus692(m): 12:30pm On May 29, 2025
Emusan:
You can't explain how the word ONLY was used by you when it was not found in the same verses you quoted.
You can't explain why the promise of God is not LIMITED to Jews ONLY but to those afar of and to those Jehovah will bring to Himself as you wrongly explain in the OP
Well, you brought the baptismal verses yourself and that's how we do to our new family members.
Do Watchtower baptize in the NAME of The Father and of The Son and of The Holy Spirit?
You can't even post the evidence of the people you baptized in your hall here in Nigeria grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Continue what you know we are doing what we know after all you people are not on the same page with us so why do you bother? grin
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by Emusan(m):
Maximus692:
Continue what you know
I always do.

we are doing what we know
That should be limited to your hall not a PUBLIC FORUM.

after all you people are not on the same page with us so why do you bother? grin
Well, it didn't bother me but you putting this on a public forum which means you want opinions of those who don't belong in your hall if not you should be teaching this to the people in your hall.
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by Maximus692(m): 1:43pm On May 29, 2025
Emusan:
I always do.
That should be limited to your hall not a PUBLIC FORUM.
Well, it didn't bother me but you put this on a public forum which means you want opinions of those who don't belong in your hall if not you should be teaching this to the people in your hall.
Ignoring you is the best option! wink
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by Maximus692(m): 1:49pm On May 29, 2025
MightySparrow:
Which family is not happy.
What do you say about PIMO? Are they dreadfully happy?
MightySparrow:
Which family is not happy?
The PIMO are entangled in the Crisis of Conscience (a book authored by one of your elders, Raymond Franz), countless thousands are not bold enough to get out the organization for the fear of what will befall them - a life better envisaged than experienced.
A family filled with tough happiness.gringrin
If they know a family of happy people outside the organization surely nothing can stop them but don't know any other happy family that's why they are crying because Jesus said true happiness is in doing what pleases God not man but if anyone wants to please man such ones can't be happy no matter the bliss found in the organization! smiley
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by MaxInDHouse(op): 1:59pm On May 29, 2025
MightySparrow:
Nothing. He is not sincere.
MightySparrow:
Which family is not happy?
The PIMO are entangled in the Crisis of Conscience (a book authored by one of your elders, Raymond Franz), countless thousands are not bold enough to get out the organization for the fear of what will befall them - a life better envisaged than experienced.
A family filled with tough happiness.gringrin
MightySparrow:
Which family is not happy. What do you say about PIMO? Are they dreadfully happy?
MightySparrow:
Note in the next few weeks or months, he will still come with the same question possibly in a slightly different way.
You judged yourself that you're never sincere asking the same question even though i've explained several times! smiley
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by Emusan(m): 2:48pm On May 29, 2025
Maximus692:
Ignoring you is the best option! wink
As the best you can do since you can't address my post

I understand cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by MaxInDHouse(op): 3:49pm On May 29, 2025
God's organization doing things right! smiley
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by MightySparrow: 8:45am On Jun 03, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Happiness starts from having the same leader because all followers will adhere to his orders so that when anyone comes around to create enmity among them they will all shun the person.
That's what makes Jehovah's Witnesses One happy global family where we can't think of raising weapons against ourselves because someone orders us to hate our brothers in Christ.
Do you think members of your own church in both Russia and Ukraine can shun the orders from Putin and Zelensky because of the love they share with their fellow believers in Christ? John 13:34-35


John has answered this question:

They went out from us, but they were not of our sort; for if they had been of our sort, they would have remained with us. But they went out so that it might be shown that not all are of our sort. 1John 2:19

Do you think those who openly told you that they are PHYSICALLY in our midst but MENTALLY far away are part of our spiritual family? 1Corinthans 11:19

If you are sincere and honest hearted why not trail these so called PIMO and see how they are seriously into political matters?
So how can they be true JWs if they allow politics to create division among those they called "brothers in Christ"?smiley
Wny is there baptism?
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by MaxInDHouse(op):
MightySparrow:
Wny is there baptism?
Sensible question!
Baptism is public declaration of your faith in Christ Jesus in the presence of eyewitnesses.

Even if it's just one person (baptized) that witnessed your baptism it's enough because he will tell others that you have been baptized! John 1:31-34; Act 8:34-38
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by MightySparrow: 12:26pm On Jun 03, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Sensible question!
Baptism is public declaration of your faith in Christ Jesus in the presence of eyewitnesses.

Even if it's just one person (baptized) that witnessed your baptism it's enough because he will tell others that you have been baptized! John 1:31-34; Act 8:34-38
Beautiful, who introduced baptism?
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by TruthinAction: 12:30pm On Jun 03, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
So if you and i start doing that what will happen to millions across the globe who are still in false religions claiming they are Christians?
Are you born again?
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by MaxInDHouse(op): 12:44pm On Jun 03, 2025
MightySparrow:
Beautiful, who introduced baptism?
Go and start a free home Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses.
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by MightySparrow:
MaxInDHouse:
Go and start a free home Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses.
Are you not teaching us here. Is it a sin to ask questions after your lecture?
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by MaxInDHouse(op): 12:46pm On Jun 03, 2025
TruthinAction:
Are you born again?
What do you mean by "BORN AGAIN" because the term means different things to different people!
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by MaxInDHouse(op): 12:52pm On Jun 03, 2025
MightySparrow:
Are you not teaching us here. Is it a a sin to ask questions after your lecture?
You are not sincere with your questions but if you sincerely want to learn go and start a free home Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses!
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by MightySparrow: 12:54pm On Jun 03, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
You are not sincere with your questions but if you sincerely want to learn go and start a free home Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses!
Are you, my teacher on this platform now denying being a Jehovah's Witnesses? Why going to Sokoto when all I need is in my sókótó?
Explain biko.
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by MaxInDHouse(op): 12:57pm On Jun 03, 2025
MightySparrow:
Are you, my teacher on this platform now denying being a Jehovah's Witnesses? Why going to Sokoto when all I need is in my sókótó? Explain biko.
Ask Papa he doesn't tell you community truth because mine will forever remain community truth! smiley
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by MightySparrow: 1:01pm On Jun 03, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Ask Papa he doesn't tell you community truth because mine will forever remain community truth! smiley
Let us partake of your community truth for once. JWs are not known to be stingy with ' truth' they tout nah.

Again, I ask, who started baptism?
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by MaxInDHouse(op): 1:14pm On Jun 03, 2025
MightySparrow:
Let us partake of your community truth for once. JWs are not known to be stingy with ' truth' they tout nah.
Again, I ask, who started baptism?
Jehovah's Witnesses in your area will avail themselves to TEACH you if you make yourself available! wink
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by MightySparrow: 1:49pm On Jun 03, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Jehovah's Witnesses in your area will avail themselves to TEACH you if you make yourself available! wink
So, are you dodging your responsibility?
You brought the thought -; provoking topic nah. Answer my question.
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by MaxInDHouse(op): 3:09pm On Jun 03, 2025
MightySparrow:
So, are you dodging your responsibility?
You brought the thought -; provoking topic nah. Answer my question.
You are Papa's responsibility not mine!

When i see my responsibility i know what to do! wink
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by TruthinAction: 3:46pm On Jun 03, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
What do you mean by "BORN AGAIN" because the term means different things to different people!
Being born again has only one meaning. It's the same thing as being saved. If you are born again, you are saved and vice versa. So, if the phrase is too high for you, are you saved? This shouldn't be difficult to answer.
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by MightySparrow: 3:47pm On Jun 03, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
You are Papa's responsibility not mine!

When i see my responsibility i know what to do! wink
So, you are confused now, Shay?
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by MaxInDHouse(op): 3:53pm On Jun 03, 2025
TruthinAction:
Being born again has only one meaning. It's the same thing as being saved. If you are born again, you are saved and vice versa. So, if the phrase is too high for you, are you saved? This shouldn't be difficult to answer.
Funny Churchian!
Nobody is saved until the end! Matthew 24:13 smiley
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by MaxInDHouse(op): 3:54pm On Jun 03, 2025
MightySparrow:
So, you are confused now, Shay?
Go and ask Papa nah! smiley
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by MightySparrow: 3:55pm On Jun 03, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Go and ask Papa nah! smiley
Papa didn't bring this topic nah!?
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by TruthinAction: 4:01pm On Jun 03, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Funny Churchian!
Nobody is saved until the end! Matthew 24:13 smiley
So, Apostle Paul was wrong when he wrote:

Ephesians 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace YE ARE SAVEDwink

Notice the phrase, 'YE ARE SAVED. It's a past tense. It means, it already happened.

Witnesses from other scriptures are:

Timothy 1:9 WHO HATH SAVED US, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, View more

Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy HE SAVED US, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Re: JW 039 In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son Of The And Holy Spirit. by MaxInDHouse(op): 4:05pm On Jun 03, 2025
MightySparrow:
Papa didn't bring this topic nah!?
My topic is not for your kind because i'm not responsible for your spirituality that is the more reason you should go to Papa because whatever i say will continue to sound like delusion to you! smiley
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