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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 10:28pm On Jun 21, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
Immigrants remain the soft targets to be blamed for every bad thing that happens in this country lol

Blaming Immigrants for brexit consequences is quite funny
That's why we have tough skins...... 🤣😂
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 10:56pm On Jun 21, 2025
jedisco:
Interesting message I received of late.

It then occured to me how a few years ago, migrant pupils were blamed here for saturating the school system and preventing 'British kids' from getting choice slots. So soon after numbers dropped, effects are being felt. How long before this makes it way higher up the school system?
Migrants will soon be blamed again for the drop just watch and see.

I remember some time ago here where we discuss the drop in university enrolments, migrants too were blamed here for no longer having enough money to japa because of forex issues 😂 na we Dey cause everything both increase and decrease!
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29:
Goke7:
Migrants will soon be blamed again for the drop just watch and see.

I remember some time ago here where we discuss the drop in university enrolments, migrants too were blamed here for no longer having enough money to japa because of forex issues 😂 na we Dey cause everything both increase and decrease!
You'll be pleased to hear that UK student visa applications appear to be on the increase.

According to Home Office data:

Officials report a 13 per cent rise in sponsored study visa applications in January 2025 compared to the same month in 2024, with 28,700 applications submitted. This also marks a seven per cent increase over January 2023 levels.

Likely boosted in part by the uncertainty/Trump factor in the US and students changing their plans to study in the UK instead.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 2:52am On Jun 22, 2025
When one sees headlines like these

All one just do is to shake head and laugh

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/06/21/immigration-is-the-biggest-burden-on-nhs-say-labour-voters/?recomm_id=624febf5-bca6-4954-9b72-18034b7180ea

NHS that immigrants generally use less than the local population?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 3:32am On Jun 22, 2025
ehizario2012:
I actually align with this line of thought, but when we look at the level of developments in the various continents, it's so difficult to see there's nothing wrong with Africans...
They hate to hear this but this evidence is clear.

Africans choose to live in denial rather than confront the truth in front of us. Length and breadth of Africa not a single country to look up to in development/ real change.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 3:41am On Jun 22, 2025
Lexusgs430:
Out of 50 childless people(geriatrics) I have been privileged to speak to, when life changing health decisions are required....... I would say about 45 of them, regretted not having a child or children......

Each to their own...... 😊😂
Hehe... loneliness no be small thing - it tortures slowly. There is manytimes a marked difference between old couples living together and those living alone esp if no kids come around. Na healthcare workers go be their main source of human contact.

Imagine living all by ones self with limited mobility in a 3 bed house. The government should pay people to provide lonely old folks company - another visa sponsorship wahala be dat.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 3:44am On Jun 22, 2025
Goke7:
Migrants will soon be blamed again for the drop just watch and see.

I remember some time ago here where we discuss the drop in university enrolments, migrants too were blamed here for no longer having enough money to japa because of forex issues 😂 na we Dey cause everything both increase and decrease!
Lol. They should provide scholarship na.

On this, they would say na our many diseases wey we carry come from Africa no dey gree us do chuku-chuku.

We do - wahala. We no do -wahala.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 3:57am On Jun 22, 2025
lavida001:
They hate to hear this but this evidence is clear.

Africans choose to live in denial rather than confront the truth in front of us. Length and breadth of Africa not a single country to look up to in development/ real change.
In this world, things happen in phases with some stints lasting several hundred years.

Self hate is not the solution to development.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Raalsalghul: 4:06am On Jun 22, 2025
ehizario2012:
I actually align with this line of thought, but when we look at the level of developments in the various continents, it's so difficult to see there's nothing wrong with Africans...
This has always been the elephant in the room.

No matter how individually well we're doing, this is what someone would point to because it sticks out like a sore thumb.

Our value system as Africans has hampered our development. It is something we need to look at.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 4:10am On Jun 22, 2025
Charts that tell a story.

If these young fellas are asked what happened, many would tell tales of how useless the NHS is and how its failed them. Yet this is one of the richest large nations in the world with so much opportunity.

Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 4:23am On Jun 22, 2025
jedisco:
Hehe... loneliness no be small thing - it tortures slowly. There is manytimes a marked difference between old couples living together and those living alone esp if no kids come around. Na healthcare workers go be their main source of human contact.

Imagine living all by ones self with limited mobility in a 3 bed house. The government should pay people to provide lonely old folks company - another visa sponsorship wahala be dat.
No be small tin o...... 🤣

What would this type of visa be labelled as.......

Loneliness buddy required, apply within COS available...... 🤣😂
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 5:56am On Jun 22, 2025
Lexusgs430:
No be small tin o...... 🤣

What would this type of visa be labelled as.......

Loneliness buddy required, apply within COS available...... 🤣😂
Lol
Loneliness and emotional support visa.... another pathway to longterm stay.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 7:16am On Jun 22, 2025
Lexusgs430:
No be small tin o...... 🤣

What would this type of visa be labelled as.......

Loneliness buddy required, apply within COS available...... 🤣😂
That’s another potential COS scam loading 😂
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 7:20am On Jun 22, 2025
jedisco:
Lol. They should provide scholarship na.

On this, they would say na our many diseases wey we carry come from Africa no dey gree us do chuku-chuku.

We do - wahala. We no do -wahala.
or we do come dey export pikin comot for uk to cause a decrease in the gdp omo we don suffer 😂 no be small
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 7:23am On Jun 22, 2025
Raalsalghul:
This has always been the elephant in the room.

No matter how individually well we're doing, this is what someone would point to because it sticks out like a sore thumb.

Our value system as Africans has hampered our development. It is something we need to look at.
But your third paragraph will imply that it is a behavioural issue rather than a genetic one...

Me I have scathing words for nigerians and black folks, sometimes I be on that Uncle Ruckus P, lol...

But one thing I NEVER do is claim biological inferiority because there isn't such, nor does it have scientific. basis

Yes, elements of our culture stink
Yes, we dey fall hand

But all that can be reversed
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 7:25am On Jun 22, 2025
Goke7:
or we do come dey export pikin comot for uk to cause a decrease in the gdp omo we don suffer 😂 no be small
Killing the sense of community is what put these old people in calamity in the first place IMO.

If they had a true COMMUNITY
the prevalence of old people needing Care workers would be reduced

That's just my thoughts
Everyone looking out for everyone
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Raalsalghul: 7:26am On Jun 22, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
But your third paragraph will imply that it is a behavioural issue rather than a genetic one...

Me I have scathing words for nigerians and black folks, sometimes I be on that Uncle Ruckus P, lol...

But one thing I NEVER do is claim biological inferiority because there isn't such, nor does it have scientific. basis

Yes, elements of our culture stink
Yes, we dey fall hand

But all that can be reversed
Yes it is not a genetic issue, intelligence or I.Q issues as most racist folks would like to point out. This is something I have come to realise as I've aged. It's just elements of our value system and culture that have kept us behind.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 7:26am On Jun 22, 2025
Zahra29:
You'll be pleased to hear that UK student visa applications appear to be on the increase.

According to Home Office data:

Officials report a 13 per cent rise in sponsored study visa applications in January 2025 compared to the same month in 2024, with 28,700 applications submitted. This also marks a seven per cent increase over January 2023 levels.

Likely boosted in part by the uncertainty/Trump factor in the US and students changing their plans to study in the UK instead.
Pleased with another increase in net migration? So we can begin to hear stories again of how the nhs is overburdened again or no jobs and accommodation for locals?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 7:31am On Jun 22, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
Killing the sense of community is what put these old people in calamity in the first place IMO.

If they had a true COMMUNITY
the prevalence of old people needing Care workers would be reduced

That's just my thoughts
Everyone looking out for everyone
The way the system is kills that sense of community as there are too many laws and regulations (though some good) that makes everyone steer clear. You touch someone by mistake you could end up in jail so make I kuku Dey my Dey and you Dey your Dey.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 8:08am On Jun 22, 2025
Raalsalghul:
Yes it is not a genetic issue, intelligence or I.Q issues as most racist folks would like to point out. This is something I have come to realise as I've aged. It's just elements of our value system and culture that have kept us behind.
yea
absolutely
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 9:10am On Jun 22, 2025
jedisco:
Charts that tell a story.

If these young fellas are asked what happened, many would tell tales of how useless the NHS is and how its failed them. Yet this is one of the richest large nations in the world with so much opportunity.
Omo this is a pandemic in itself. Perhaps vaccines are needed to address this 😂 cos I no understand again
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(mod): 9:22am On Jun 22, 2025
toughest007:
The bulk of what you called him died here and never left the corners of the classroom, as he is now the 47th POTUS and have been called worse and even survived more than two assassination attempts.

Like you said, interesting times ahead as we look forward to global peace and stability above all.
Trump just hit Iran with massive bomb.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ckg3rzj8emjt
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 9:44am On Jun 22, 2025
justwise:
Trump just hit Iran with massive bomb.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ckg3rzj8emjt
Another "underlying causes" of a new 'irregular migration' crisis in the making... All encouraged of course by people like Badenough and her "proxy warriors".

Of course, all of them will pretend history started just yesterday when the issue starts.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 9:58am On Jun 22, 2025
justwise:
Trump just hit Iran with massive bomb.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ckg3rzj8emjt
Global peace 😂
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 10:17am On Jun 22, 2025
Goke7:
Pleased with another increase in net migration? So we can begin to hear stories again of how the nhs is overburdened again or no jobs and accommodation for locals?
Pleased because it's a win-win for both universities and the government.

Dependants are still banned in most cases, so a moderate increase in student numbers is highly unlikely to cause the same huge spike in migration figures.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 10:28am On Jun 22, 2025
Goodenoch:
Another "underlying causes" of a new 'irregular migration' crisis in the making... All encouraged of course by people like Badenough and her "proxy warriors".

Of course, all of them will pretend history started just yesterday when the issue starts.
1. Starmer is the UK PM. He is responsible for any UK military action, not Kemi or Reform or anyone else.

2. The UK has stated that the government was aware of, but not in any way involved, in the attacks on Fordow and other sites.

3. There is already a massive irregular migration issue with Iran. For a number of years running, Iranians have been in the top 5 (actually #1) of nationalities crossing the English channel by boat.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/people-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats/

Maybe they'll switch over to the US instead as they are the direct combatants in this conflict, and not the UK.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by LionInZion: 10:35am On Jun 22, 2025
justwise:
Trump just hit Iran with massive bomb.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ckg3rzj8emjt
Haha
The way some Trump's fans commented pre election, you'd think they were in the man's inner circle. They saw him as the singular solution to the world problems. Imagine anyone believing an American president really cares about global peace, when history has shown it's all about interest and nothing more. It's even worse with Mr MAGA as he has broken more fences than mending them since he was sworn in.

Now the Iran crisis is beginning to have the same Iraqi vibes of years ago. It all started with "yea Iraq is building nuclear weapon and we need to stop them". But we all know how it ended. It's such a hypocritical world we live in.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 10:42am On Jun 22, 2025
Zahra29:
[/quote]1. Starmer is the UK PM. He is responsible for any UK military action, not Kemi or Reform or anyone else.
Yes. The blame will go to Starmer and everyone else involved, including the leader of the opposition who is pressuring the government to take a more hawkish approach. I named badenough because of her ridiculous proxy war comment, and frankly just because I enjoy pointing out her tomfoolery. Before you say I am biased - yes I know; I don't make any bones of my dislike for the incompetent loudmouth that she is.

2. The UK has stated that the government was aware of, but not in any way involved, in the attacks on Fordow and other sites.
Okay. We'll see how that plays out. https://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/uk-politics/keir-starmer-us-iran-nuclear-strikes/

3. There is already a massive irregular migration issue with Iran. For a number of years running, Iranians have been in the top 5 (actually #1) of nationalities crossing the English channel by boat.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/people-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats/

Maybe they'll switch over to the US instead as they are the direct combatants in this conflict, and not the UK.
Not quite truthful or logical, as usual for you.

First, the UK has been direcly involved in destabilising Iran over several decades, in its role as America's trusty sidekick in global intervensionism to 'spread democracy' at the barrel of a gun and leaving fresh crises, millions of innocents dead and displaced, and new aggrieved, very well armed and well-trained (courtesy of UK SAS and SBS troops in many cases) factions in their wake. Of course, when these factions become 'terrorists' and cause the deaths and displacements of more millions, the USA, UK and other countries put on their shocked pikachu faces and act as if they have no idea where they came from. Read - https://theconversation.com/us-and-iran-have-a-long-complicated-history-spanning-far-beyond-israels-strikes-on-tehran-259240

Secondly, they can't switch quite as easily to the USA for geographical reasons. So maybe the UK and other countries that'll be directly affected by a migrant crisis should apply their senses this time and avoid inflaming a conflict that'll more directly affect them while Uncle Sam sits secure far away, protected by a couple oceans and a few seas.

Do you understand now or you'd like more help?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 10:55am On Jun 22, 2025
Goodenoch:
1. Starmer is the UK PM. He is responsible for any UK military action, not Kemi or Reform or anyone else.
Yes. The blame will go to Starmer and everyone else involved, including the leader of the opposition who is pressuring the government to take a more hawkish approach. I named badenough because of her ridiculous proxy war comment, and frankly just because i enjoy pointing out her tomfoolery. Before you say I am biased - yes I know; I don't make any bones of my dislike for the incompetent loudmouth that she is.

2. The UK has stated that the government was aware of, but not in any way involved, in the attacks on Fordow and other sites.
Okay. We'll see how that plays out. https://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/uk-politics/keir-starmer-us-iran-nuclear-strikes/


3. There is already a massive irregular migration issue with Iran. For a number of years running, Iranians have been in the top 5 (actually #1) of nationalities crossing the English channel by boat.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/people-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats/

Maybe they'll switch over to the US instead as they are the direct combatants in this conflict, and not the UK.


Not quite truthful or logical, as usual.

First, the UK has been direcly involved in destabilising Iran over several decades, in its role as America's trusty sidekick in global intervensionism. Read - https://theconversation.com/us-and-iran-have-a-long-complicated-history-spanning-far-beyond-israels-strikes-on-tehran-259240

Secondly, they can't switch quite as easily to the USA for geographical reasons. So maybe the UK and other countries that'll be directly affected by a migrant crisis should apply their senses this time and avoid inflaming a conflict that'll more directly affect them while Uncle Sam sits secure far away, protected by a couple oceans and a few seas.

Do you understand now or you'd like more help?
1. Thank goodness you have finally acknowledged your strange, extreme bias.

In any case, our competent PM appears to agree with the incompetent Kemi that "Tehran's atomic programme was 'a grave threat to international security" and that the "US has taken action to 'alleviate that threat". Sounds like he supports the attacks (not surprising as when it comes down to it, we will almost always side with the US).

2.What is not truthful/accurate was your claim of a "new" migration crisis, when there has been a significant Iranian migration crisis for a few years now. Clearly you were unaware.

Of course Iranians cannot sail or cross over to the US ( neither would Trump allow them in tbh) but to follow your reasoning, that is where they should be headed.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 11:06am On Jun 22, 2025
Zahra29:
1. Thank goodness you have finally acknowledged your strange, extreme bias.

In any case, our competent PM appears to agree with the incompetent Kemi that "Tehran's atomic programme was 'a grave threat to international security" and that the "US has taken action to 'alleviate that threat". Sounds like he supports the attacks (not surprising as when it comes down to it, we will almost always side with the US).

2.What is not truthful/accurate was your claim of a "new" migration crisis, when there has been a significant Iranian migration crisis for a few years now. Clearly you were unaware.

Of course Iranians cannot sail or cross over to the US ( neither would Trump allow them in tbh) but to follow your reasoning, that is where they should be headed.
I said there will be a new migration crisis. How does the fact that one already exists disprove that? Your logic, such as it is, needs a lot of work tbh, but let me try to break it down for you:

Look at this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_refugee_crises You'll see that many countries (regions) appear multiple times as new wars or other crises break out. Do you understand now?

As an aside, look at that list and try to count how many were not precipitated or inflamed by US/UK interventionism. The results won't surprise you, lol.


On Starmer, I think it would be a monumentally foolish decision to take the UK into the war, especially if its for as nonsensical a reason as "we will almost always side with the US". I like the man and support him overall but he's not perfect or free from criticism.

As to my bias against Badenough, did it take you this long to see that? How disappointing. I have a bias for incompetent loudmouths who treat politics and governance like a reality show because their actions have real detrimental impacts on people. It's that simple.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 11:19am On Jun 22, 2025
Goodenoch:
I said there will be a new migration crisis. How does the fact that one already exists disprove that? Your logic, such as it is, needs a lot of work tbh, but let me try to break it down for you:

Look at this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_refugee_crises You'll see that many countries (regions) appear multiple times as new wars or other crises break out. Do you understand now?

As an aside, look at that list and try to count how many were not precipitated or inflamed by US/UK interventionism. The results won't surprise you, lol.


And on Starmer, I think it would be a monumentally foolish decision to take the UK into the war, especially if its for as nonsensical a reason as "we will almost always side with the US". I like the man and support him overall but he's not perfect or free from criticism.

As to my bias against Badenough, did it take you this long to see that? How disappointing. I have a bias for incompetent loudmouths who treat politics and governance like a reality show because their actions have real detrimental impacts on people. It's that simple.
Very interesting, as I've never heard you criticise him on this forum, even when he was widely accused of making racist, incendiary comments.

I've noticed and called out your bias from the start. Everyone is free to their own opinion, but I find it rather strange the depth of your obvious hate for her and that she is the only individual you routinely call out, as if there are no "incompetent loudmouths" in the actual governing party - you know, the ones who should be scrutinised more deeply and held to account. (If you don't know any, I can forward some names over for you to take a look at).

But like I said, opinions are like noses. Everyone's entitled to theirs, even ugly ones😂
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 11:23am On Jun 22, 2025
Zahra29:
1. Thank goodness you have finally acknowledged your strange, extreme bias.

In any case, our competent PM appears to agree with the incompetent Kemi that "Tehran's atomic programme was 'a grave threat to international security" and that the "US has taken action to 'alleviate that threat". Sounds like he supports the attacks (not surprising as when it comes down to it, we will almost always side with the US).

2.What is not truthful/accurate was your claim of a "new" migration crisis, when there has been a significant Iranian migration crisis for a few years now. Clearly you were unaware.

Of course Iranians cannot sail or cross over to the US ( neither would Trump allow them in tbh) but to follow your reasoning, that is where they should be headed.
Also, I thought this was clear but apparently not.

People displaced by a war are refugees looking for where to escape to. They don't have the luxury of going to where they 'should', which is why I highlighted that the UK would be making a foolish decision by facilitating a crises that it'll bear the brunt of while the USA goes mostly unscathed.
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