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koruji: The source of the tragedy of Biafra is clear from your comments.
In reading that piece you did not see how Pa Awo demonstrated the "reality" of the situation in the West?
I guess bravery in your world is starting a war that you are sure to lose, especially when the negotiating route has not been exhausted?

You did not see how Ojukwu boasted about his "biggest" army - even as he admitted he was not ready?
Someone that started with 120 rifles was claiming to have the biggest army in Black Africa and negotiating from a position of power only a year or so later?
Did what the sage foresaw not end up happening to the "brave" Ojukwu?
As is very clear from the thinking always displayed by Biafrans on this forum, Ojukwu overrated his capabilities.

Perhaps he was an actual believer or merely a boaster it is not easy to know, but either way such approach to matters of life and death is dangerous.
As I have said before - many of you "Biafran" descendants have learnt no lessons - and you just proved it once again.

Olaolufred: .

It is an unfortunate war.
However, the young man with all youthful exuberances who bullied the older folks like achebe into an unplanned war remained their hero.
While they live their deliverance in the hand of others.(At least they thought Yoruba would have co-operated with them not on mutual term but on theirs).
Every man has a right to his decision but you can not force others to go your own way.
However, the young officer discarded the voice of reason only to come back later saying it is someone else.
Bible said, who is the man who wants to build a house, who would not first take account of its cost?
Even catholics knows this story, not to mention the pentecostals.

dayokanu: ^^ Ti owo eni ko ba kan eku Ida won ki bere Iku to pa Baba eni

If you are not in an advantageous position dont go all the way looking for Justice

pazienza: Ojukwu said he had the strongest black army, and he proved it,for he held off britain/USSR for 3yrs,it took a starvation policy,a war crime,to bring biafra to it's knee. If the war was just against aboki/Yoruba,then it wouldn't have been a war.

channel 190: you've said it all, how could he had sat down to see his own peoples destroyed? He just did a mistake, and the west {yoruba ofamanu} are suffering their dubious act[/color]

pazienza: with the light of hindsight, the biafran war was not un-winnable,until Ojukwu made some crucial mistakes.

Ikengawo: Imagine the type of coward that will tell the first son of a house to take his time and not fight back when his younger siblings are being killed and his mother and father are next.

If such a thing ever happened to Yoruba people, let it be known that there's nobody in their entire ethnic stock with the courage the help or save them. Too many coward get called heros and leaders.

pazienza: lessons we learnt from the war: we learnt that Ojukwu was right in trying to secede from nigeria,for 42years later,Nigeria has turned to a failure,people are still being killed en masse in the north,nigerian govt can't still protect her citizens from blood thirsty northerners,people are still calling for another aburi under names like SNC, ojukwu was a man who saw tommorrow. We also learnt that Ojukwu made some crucial mistakes that made him to fail in his just and noble cause.

pazienza: What lesson are you talking about? And how exactly did Ojukwu start the war?

Ikengawo: The war had already started by the time Ojukwu declared

60,000 igbos had already been killed when and while Awolowo was telling Ojukwu to wait.
I think ignorance and under-education of the situation is the reason many yoruba has such ridiculous opinions about the biafra situation.
Forget your biases, and study the situation. Ojukwu responded to pogroms against his people and declared biafra as a boarder to announce once Igbos cross that land, they're free, protected and sovereign.

Unless yoruba people are truly stupid people that are given more credit than they deserve. Even today nigerians are being killed en masse for no reason because of the north, and now in the West. Stop acting like this is an igbo-v. yoruba war. It was a common sense v. cowardice war and the yoruba chose the cowards route of dying slowing subservient because they feared dying suddenly sovereign.

Biafra wasn't an igbo nation. It was a christian nation. Every single Christian tribe in Nigeria supported Biafra in the south and were in it except the Yoruba. Allowing a land locked north to blockade christian southerners by sea because of your confusion and cowardice. The end result was what? They ruled you into the modern era and you're now less politically relevant than before.



Yoruba people made a mistake and still down have the courage to own up to it. They sided with genocide and are now surprised to be called genocidal cowards. History has judged Awolowo and this is why he has died forgotten. When Ojukwu died the heads of states across the world and the brightest minds in yoruba land came to show respects. When Awolowo died he was buried and nothing can be pointed to as a single legacy because cowards that fear death are the only people that ever really die. Everyone else is immortalized for posterity.

koruji: Silly questions. If I declare a secession today I would fully expect a war and would have started a war. Get it?

koruji: Stop fooling yourself. This is actually another indicator that Ojukwu was lacking in strategic thought. When a war starts all previous plans become obsolete - except what is directly under your control which should include your food sources and your arm sources. If you depend on food under your enemy's control - you already lost the war you just don't know it. If Biafra was in control of Nigerian food sources starvation would be the first and perhaps only weapon!!! This is why war is a serious matter.

koruji: Nobody ever said Ojukwu was wrong to want to secede but you don't do that without first considering all alternatives to war and preparing adequately.

koruji: Believe what you will - Ojukwu didn't have to go to war at the time he did. He could have welcome home the returnees, drag out negotiations and prepare for a full scale war - don't start a war with 120 rifles, gather untrained civilians together and call them the "biggest army" in Africa - you will be sorry.

channel 190: [color=green]I'd never fantasied politics section, but not when u talk in ignorance.
You are the war leader and all your border army are dying of hunger, they tried by eating Dogs, fly and anything that comes their way...and finally those you trusted betrayed you and ur enemies enters your cycle...what do you, stand and fight, fight to waste other bloods in a failed battle?

[size=18pt]He called off the war and ran away.[/size]/color]

koruji: I know one of you will use the killings in the north to justify Ojukwu's decision. The fact though is that secession was no real help for that sad situation. Let me help you with the following questions:

1 Did Ojukwu evacuate every Biafran before his secession?
2. If not, didn't the declaration even make the killings more likely?
3 If so, who did the secession help when everyone was already back home?

As for the rest of your vomit - you just go ahead and lick it back up. I would hate to be in your mental state - issuing contradictory thoughts at same time. How can Awolowo be a hero in Yorubaland and yet die without a legacy? It must be hard to be you

Ikengawo: History has judged Awolowo and this is why he has died forgotten. When Ojukwu died the heads of states across the world and the brightest minds in yoruba land came to show respects. When Awolowo died he was buried and nothing can be pointed to as a single legacy because cowards that fear death are the only people that ever really die. Everyone else is immortalized for posterity.

geeez: Point of correction, he ran away first then called off the war and while running, he forcibly took the space of innocent women and children who were to be flown to safety, leaving them in the war he started when he knew he couldn't win

It's cowardice enough for a warlord to flee the battle front, leaving his soldiers and supporters stranded but when he now selfishly deprives his supporters the opportunity to flee, then he must be a demon and a coward

kingoflag: See the bolded?

Stop listening to tales concocted under the shine of a full moon while sipping ogogoro seated under a coconut tree....learn your history.

pazienza: Ojukwu negotiated with the north after the first masaccre,and told igbos resident in the north to go back,but Nigeria once again failed to protect her citizens,Ojukwu simply drew a line and told igbos that if they stayed within that line,that he would protect them,and that's exactly what he did. It's better to die fighting than to be massaccred.