₦airaland Forum

Kukutente23:
There is no such thing. There was no borrowing of any pagan beliefs or tradition. That there are similarities does not mean one borrowed from the other. Sango is god of thunder in Yoruba. It has a contemporary in Amadioha in Igbo religion. The Greeks have Zeus to match that while Egypt has Seth and Chinese have Leigong. Are you implying all copied one another to arrive at their gods?
Catholicism grew out of many debates about doctrines and dogmas which evolved based on what the council percieved to be heretic and what was divine.

Easter had nothing to do with Astarte. December 25 was not chosen for pagan influence. You have been overly deceived by Jehovah witnesses. December 25 was chosen cause that was the day calculated as the winter solstice when the sun spends the longest in the day and Jesus was referred in the Bible as the sun of Righteousness. It has nothing to do with paganism.
How does Isis mirror Mary? It makes absolutely no sense. The Bible which is the official text of Christians does not attribute any god-like status to Mary. The attribution in Catholicism was borne out of dogmatic need not biblical foundation. Yet Mary was of biblical foundation. So how can Mary have a relationship with Isis? I hope you understand what Egypt and their gods connote in Christian doctrine. It is laughable to reduce Mary to a contemporary of an Egyptian goddess. What crass ignorance!!

Ipobfraud:
What you people don't understand is that king is a traditional post not an occult post. Yoruba might be an idol worshipers full time in the past but not now. To be a Yoruba king, the prerequisite is not that you must be an idol worshiper. Idol worshippers claiming yoruba kings stool is idol stool are mistaken. King will be buried base on his religion, if he’s idol worshiper he can be bury in their way, if he’s a Muslim or Christian he should be bury according to his religion rite. Customizing yoruba king as idol king cannot work in this era, Yoruba are mainly Christian and Muslim, why will the minority idol worshippers be dictating how king will be bury.

Softmirror:
There is no justification for killing any innocent person.

illicit

adamkkk

247man

Omonigeriarere

DeepSight

Goodlady

247man:
Let’s assume this rubbish in your attached images is true.. that means d late awujale did all these before he became oba 65 years ago right ?

Oceemo:
So u mean after death they have to butcher him and eat or am not reading and understanding right

BlackViper:
https://punchng.com/awujales-burial-frees-yoruba-kings-from-ritual-slavery-oluwo/

Exousiang01:
This one has sold himself to foreign religions.

Its just shameful to travel round the world and see people practice their ancient religions but you come down to Africa and Africans can't even remember what their ancestors believed in.

Go to Scandinavian countries and see them maintaining their culture and beliefs.

An African man has no mind of his own. Not even their kings

Fujiyama:
^^^


What does the SS (or any other geopolitical zone in Nigeria for that matter) have to do with this issue?

illicit:
Arabic burial rite is foreign....


Two nations colonized Nigeria

I think the kingmakers made a mistake selecting the Awujale in the first place

His major qualification was being very young and educated abroad

That's their mistake

He bastardized their culture

The same king who refused to wear the ancestral crown

Hammylawali:
If only you can see the funny thing you’re posting..

Arabic burial is foreign but Christian burial is African or not foreign Abi?…
Whether you believe it or not, all the prophets of God came from different places in the Arab world. And what they came with (the message from God) would spread around the world.

Kukutente23:
1. The story says that he requested to be buried islamically at his demise
2. Pagan kings that became Christians either have to leave the throne if they know there are certain aspects of the throne that conflicts with their religion or they change the throne in its entirety to fit their new faith. You can't mix both together. That's where the problem arises. The Emirs in the north today are Islamic rulers and not the traditional ones that used to exist. That's why I said if he carried out the coronation rite of eating his predecessor's body parts, he does not have the moral ground to reject same being done to him.

rabzy:
So must the first Islamic emir permit them not to bury him according to islamic rites, when he believes doing this will negate the whole point of his conversion and prevent him from aljanna?
Constantine was the first Roman emperor that was said to become a christian, he was not buried according to Roman burial rites. He was said to be baptized on his deathbed and buried according according to "xtian" rites. There are thousands of examples of Kings who had a clean break during their reign from the cultures and rites that brought them to the throne and they established a different culture/rites going forward which then became the new tradition and culture. And most times these changes dont all occur during the reign of the first king that converted, it takes place over several reigns, each king taking the people and culture further and further away from the previous culture and tradition. From the Mongolian kings of Central Asia to the Mughal emperors of India, to the Viking Kings of Scandinavia down to the Turkic rulers of Anatolia, you can hardly find a clean break as you posited in your comments

Exousiang01:
This one has sold himself to foreign religions.

Its just shameful to travel round the world and see people practice their ancient religions but you come down to Africa and Africans can't even remember what their ancestors believed in.

Go to Scandinavian countries and see them maintaining their culture and beliefs.

An African man has no mind of his own. Not even their kings

247man:
Let’s assume this rubbish in your attached images is true.. that means d late awujale did all these before he became oba 65 years ago right ?

Goodlady:
Don't ever quote me again. Do I know you?
Why you dey mention me?

247man:
Have you eaten? Better for you to eat before checking who quoted you

DeepSight:
Well, I take a diferent approach. I simply say that as a traditional king, your duty is to be a custodian of tradition. Therefore the very act of conversion to a foreign religion is, in my view, already a betrayal of your people, your oath, your culture, your role, your stool and your tradition. You should step down from the throne.

Exousiang01:
This one has sold himself to foreign religions.

Its just shameful to travel round the world and see people practice their ancient religions but you come down to Africa and Africans can't even remember what their ancestors believed in.

Go to Scandinavian countries and see them maintaining their culture and beliefs.

An African man has no mind of his own. Not even their kings

rabzy:
Okay that is noted.
But in the event that all your subjects or a significant majority of your subjects have become converts to a new religion, then does a king need to or have to steadfastly/needlessly adhere to a tradition or religion that his people has spurned/rejected or modernized as they see fit.
Do the present people not have a right to change their tradition or culture to something new/different that can in decades or centuries become an "old" tradition for future generations, just like their forbears also adopted, adapted or created traditions that lasted to their own era.

onuman:
It's like you could not understand what you read from the post.

DeepSight:
This is a very interesting and sound question. All I can say is yes, culture evolves. However I doubt that the Native culture has actually evolved in the place being discussed notwithstanding the the popularity of foreign religions.