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Gabrielshow24:
I will indeed bring proof, if you have forgotten or you hope to deny, I will bring it to the remembrance of all!

😂😆😂😆 if it after I have brought all the evidence that proves I am saying the truth you want to do this one 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣😂

gohf:
yes I can do better at continually providing evidence. Guy we are just on earth imagine how it would be for you on that day when books containing every minute of your life would be opened

Probably, you are in the same league with Boomark—League of those that lack com-prr-heen-sion. Your initial posit said boomark asked me to define God. He didn't ask me, I asked him. He only said I can use whatsoever definition as an evasive technique not to tangle himself intellectually! —Even this fail.ed!

Who then lied? Now show me as a question where boomark told me to define God? You can't because I asked him!

gohf:
😂😆😂😆 if it after I have brought all the evidence that proves I am saying the truth you want to do this one 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣😂

You haven't proved anything maybe perhaps to half-witted personalities! Your first supposed proof, is misplaced at it negates context, you didn't prove whether or not I accused him falsely—Just a claim😂.

Indeed, you will make a fine lawyer. The other ones are littered with lies, claiming boomark asked me when I asked him! You also lied that I haven't asked you to define God which you have failed to do given the amount of time that has elapsed since then!

Gabrielshow24:
It's a reconciliation because it tends to explain two seemingly contradictory verses but it fails outright.

Not even you can say Jesus lied! What then are you probing for? Even in science the human mind can't process more than three dimensions and yet you want them to be able to parse an infinite dimensioned God. Jesus saying that is True because he is the 3-D depiction of God that the brain can parse. No one can see God in the infinite-D form we can't parse it!

What aspect of this don't you understand? When the biblical writers wrote such they expected the audience to understand the context and not sell cheap scripts online!

If truly your posit is right, kindly assert that Jesus is wrong? You can't! This is where your wisdom is found wanting again!

"not even me can say" guy you're are so right finally you attempted to say something true, I can never say Jesus lied but don't you call Jesus a liar when you do not agree with his words

John.17.3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

Mark.12.32 So the scribe said to Him, "Well said, Teacher. You have spoken the truth, for there is one God, and there is no other but He.

John.5.44 How can you believe, who receive honor from one another, and do not seek the honor that comes from the only God?

Matt.23.9 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.

Mark.13.32 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

John.8.54 - Jesus answered, "If I honor Myself, My honor is nothing. It is My Father who honors Me, of whom you say that He is your God.

John.20.17 - Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, "I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God."'


If I continue I may end up quoting the whole new testament gospels 😂 😆 😂

From James.3.13 - "If you are wise and understand God's ways, live a life of steady goodness so that only good deeds will pour forth... if you are bitterly jealous and there is selfish ambition in your hearts, don't brag about being wise. That is the worst kind of lie. That is not God's kind of wisdom. Such things are earthly, unspiritual, demonic and motivated by the Devil.

For wherever there is jealousy and selfish ambition, there you will find disorder and every kind of evil.

But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure. It is also peace loving, gentle at all times, and willing to yield to others. It is full of mercy and good deeds. It shows no partiality and is always sincere."

Ohyoudidnt:
You enter paradise in spirit but those in hell have their spirit or body repeatedly burning?

Can fire burn the spirit?

Bring a mathematical jargon to show this.

A classic example of Why Islam is said to be dumb: this is a classic example.

So, you think the Fire of Hell is physical?
SMH? Will Shaitan be in the fire?

Khai!
SMH!

gohf:
"not even me can say" guy you're are so right finally you attempted to say something true, I can never say Jesus lied but don't you call Jesus a liar when you do not agree with his words

John.17.3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

Mark.12.32 So the scribe said to Him, "Well said, Teacher. You have spoken the truth, for there is one God, and there is no other but He.

John.5.44 How can you believe, who receive honor from one another, and do not seek the honor that comes from the only God?

Matt.23.9 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.

Mark.13.32 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

John.8.54 - Jesus answered, "If I honor Myself, My honor is nothing. It is My Father who honors Me, of whom you say that He is your God.

John.20.17 - Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, "I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God."'


If I continue I may end up quoting the whole new testament gospels 😂 😆 😂

From James.3.13 - "If you are wise and understand God's ways, live a life of steady goodness so that only good deeds will pour forth... if you are bitterly jealous and there is selfish ambition in your hearts, don't brag about being wise. That is the worst kind of lie. That is not God's kind of wisdom. Such things are earthly, unspiritual, demonic and motivated by the Devil.

For wherever there is jealousy and selfish ambition, there you will find disorder and every kind of evil.

But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure. It is also peace loving, gentle at all times, and willing to yield to others. It is full of mercy and good deeds. It shows no partiality and is always sincere."

It doesn't answer the question on ground. You are just looking for diversionary tactics. You failed to understand context. If you failed in just one verse imagine the rest where you have mis-intrepreted!

The scriptures well explains this that he took the form of God, He became flesh. He honored his Father in flesh and the Father honored him just as himself. What more do you want?

He gave indirect evidences not just claiming "I am God" for his divinity and equality with God!
It's even well documented that Jesus spoke in parables intentionally to obscure meanings exemplifying it later to his disciples!

As usual, you are selling cheap script! We take the fullness of scripture not just cherry-picking.

Gabrielshow24:
It doesn't answer the question on ground. You are just looking for diversionary tactics. You failed to understand context. If you failed in just one verse imagine the rest where you have mis-intrepreted!

The scriptures well explains this that he took the form of God, He became flesh. He honored his Father in flesh and the Father honored him just as himself. What more do you want?

He gave indirect evidences not just claiming "I am God" for his divinity and equality with God!
It's even well documented that Jesus spoke in parables intentionally to obscure meanings exemplifying it later to his disciples!

As usual, you are selling cheap script! We take the fullness of scripture not just cherry-picking.

gohf has really dealt with you.

I am giving you a chance to ask me one question you think will nail on me on a tree so that the birds of the air will eat me like pepper soup . Think deeply before you ask. I could have given you more chance but you a very dishonest being. Question from the bible.

I will use the scripture to destroy both your hammer and nails.

After that, I will ask you my own question and you must answer it.

Do you agree? Agree before you asked. You are not trustworthy at all.

Boomark:
gohf has really dealt with you.

I am giving you a chance to ask me one question you think will nail on me on a tree so that the birds of the air will eat me like pepper soup . Think deeply before you ask. I could have given you more chance but you a very dishonest being. Question from the bible.

I will use the scripture to destroy both your hammer and nails.

After that, I will ask you my own question and you must answer it.

Do you agree? Agree before you asked. You are not trustworthy at all.

dealt with me as how? Just like you he hasn't done anything useful. He has proven himself a liar of the same league as you! It seems you have finally owned to your lie😂.

Kindly disprove Jesus?You can't! I take scripture in full not cherry-pick and I apply deep understanding to it!

Since you have decided to nail yourself, did Jesus lie when he said "he that has seen me has seen God"?

I am sure you can't, because it undermines your position in the same vein exemplifying the ontological definition of God would have done to your arguments!

Chibuezem:
The concept of the Trinity in the Old Testament is subtle yet evident through various passages and hints. While the term "Trinity" isn't explicitly mentioned, several scriptures suggest a plurality within the Godhead.

KeyPassages:

- *Genesis 1:26*: God says, "Let us make mankind in our image," indicating a plural Godhead.
- *Genesis 19:24*: The Lord rains brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven, suggesting two distinct persons within the Godhead.
- *Isaiah 48:16*: The Lord GOD and His Spirit have sent the speaker, hinting at the Trinity.
- *Psalm 45:6-7*: The throne of God is mentioned, and Hebrews 1:8-9 identifies this as referring to the Son.
- *Numbers 6:24-26*: The threefold repetition of God's name may allude to the Trinity.

*Other Hints:*

- *Plural terminology for God*: The Hebrew word "Elohim" is used, which is a plural form, yet often takes singular verbs, indicating a complex unity.
- *The Angel of the Lord*: This figure is described as God and receives worship, yet is distinct from God, foreshadowing the Trinity.
- *The Spirit of God*: Passages like Micah 3:8 and Isaiah 63:10-11 show the Spirit as a distinct person within the Godhead.
- The trisagion of Isaiah 6:3: The repetition of "holy" three times may reflect the triune nature of God ¹ ² ³.

Interpretation:

The Old Testament lays the groundwork for the doctrine of the Trinity, which is later revealed more fully in the New Testament. Understanding these passages requires careful consideration of the Hebrew language, cultural context, and theological themes .


A very important question I would love you to answer is if You were to see evidence of trinity in the scripture and God were to also reveal it to you would you accept it?

Bro the scriptures you posted did not support trinity in any way. Please stop copying and pasting things you don't understand. I read some of them and I was disappointed.

I have given you opportunity to ask me any question you want. I will answer all especially with scripture. What you call hint didn't hint anything. Hint cannot cancel what Jesus said himself.

Gabrielshow24:
dealt with me as how? Just like you he hasn't done anything useful. He has proven himself a liar of the same league as you! It seems you have finally owned to your lie😂.

Kindly disprove Jesus?You can't! I take scripture in full not cherry-pick and I apply deep understanding to it!

Since you have decided to nail yourself, did Jesus lie when he said "he that has seen me has seen God"?

I am sure you can't, because it undermines your position in the same vein exemplifying the ontological definition of God would have done to your arguments!

Kindly agree that you will answer my own question and then put your question in bold letter so that all eyes will see it well. Don't talk too much. So one will digress. Use the exact words Jesus use so you don't start lying from the beginning.

Gohf, the liar. Looking for cheap scripts to sell.
Here are various instances that I have asked you to define the ontological or epistemological definition of God. If you like deny😂.

Gabrielshow24:
What then is your definition of God?
What makes God God? 🤨

Also, it seems you also like Max have selective amnesia.

There are plethora of verses that allude to Christ's Godship🤨.

This coming from a Christian is rather alarming!!!

Before we continue, kindly give a response to both questions 🤨.

Gabrielshow24:
It's a "sentimental" conclusion.

What then is your basis for drawing an "hasty condemnation" from a "weak analogy" fallacy!!!🤨?

Once again, I ask you.
Tell me what makes God God?
And what's your definition of God?

Gabrielshow24:
Hello🙃
What's your definition of God?
And what make God God? 🤨

I don't accuse people falsely, I am not gohf nor boomark. I back up my conversation with facts. I consider all sides of things before coming to a reasonable conclusion! Since all this while he hasn't given a definition 😂! By their fruits you shall know them!

https://www.nairaland.com/post/134443282

Boomark:
Kindly agree that you will answer my own question and then put your question in bold letter so that all eyes will see it well. Don't talk too much. So one will digress.

did Jesus lie when he said he that has seen has seen God? Also how did you reconcile this verse with those of John and Timothy's 🤨?

Gabrielshow24:
did Jesus lie when he said he that has seen has seen God? Also how did you reconcile this verse with those of John and Timothy's 🤨?

Didn't you see where I said you should agree to answer my question also? This is just the kind of deceitful act you practice. And again use the exact words of Jesus Christ. You have already started lying already. In fact quote the scripture before you ask.

Boomark:
Didn't you see where I said you should agree to answer my question also? This is just the kind of deceitful act you practice. And again use the exact words of Jesus Christ. You have already started lying already. In fact quote the scripture before you ask.

Agree to what question exactly 🤦🏾‍♂️? What manner of deceit is this?
Alright, I will use the exact words of Jesus, I will quote the verse so that you have no excuse! 😂

Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? John14:9

TenQ:
Your question shows complete IGNORANCE of what you think you mean: it's like claiming the CONFUSION of Scientists about their claim of the fact that i=✓(-1) when you don't even know a hoot about complex numbers!


Let me ask you a question because
As Christians, we believe that a human being is created as a Trinity of his Body, Soul and Spirit.
If you do not understand the Trinity or Duality of Man, how can you understand the Trinity of God?


If indeed it is true according to your prophet that Moses (as an example of prophets) is in his grave doing salat: how was it that your prophet discussed with him when he travelled to paradise on the Al-Burak?

You start with your analogy of claiming confusion of scientists and your trinity definitely because the concept is nothing other than confusion.

The imaginary root is accurately described and understood by scientists though. So there goes another lie of yours.

The utility and consistency of complex numbers, built upon the imaginary unit, are widely accepted and applied. It seems you are also stating the imaginary nature of your TRINITY. LOL

Boomark:
Bro the scriptures you posted did not support trinity in any way. Please stop copying and pasting things you don't understand. I read some of them and I was disappointed.

I have given you opportunity to ask me any question you want. I will answer all especially with scripture. What you call hint didn't hint anything. Hint cannot cancel what Jesus said himself.

okay sir have a wonderful day

Boomark:
And he has explained this falsehood to you and you believe it. I know you are still seeking for knowledge.

Now take your time and gather every point you can think of from the video and ask me questions. I will answer ALL and destroy the video and everything in it with God's word.

If I ask you to back your questions with scriptures you will start failing from the beginning.

I am doing this so that you will know that you are only doing the will of satan and the antichrist.

you can ask questions from it. I am not confused or doubting the topic. You can do the needful and write your questions from the video.

Boomark:
See the frustration he chibuezem gave me in picture. So you know those you are dealing with.

They don't know I can answer all their questions with scriptures but I want them to answer at least one from me. Even if it is 1:3 no problem.

The same thing with Ken4Christ. I answered his question on page 3 at 3:39 pm with words typed out. He is still here saying I have not answered him.

Gabriel the false accuser who claimed he is so busy can type 1000 words with 200 laughing heads but finds it difficult to use a single scripture to backup what he said. That's when he will remember that he busy. He is busy planting falsehood everywhere.

I have replied them but it's like I'm being restricted from showing them the truth the way I want it.

I've answered your question several times. The scripture you posted is correct.

gohf:
I see boomark has already been asking you the same questions chibuezem, so care to share your revelation you received from God

I have answered his question already. The revelation is personal but concludes that trinity is true 😁 Oya bash me.
The truth is my revelation from God cannot convince you enough compared to the one that God will give you. All you need to do is to ask with openness of the heart and He will reveal all things through the Holyspirit who is the teacher and comforter 😊

gohf:
well I am not among that most, so don't assume that others didn't research or reach out to God.

Did God tell you that he is Jesus Christ? Because those of us who have actually seen God, saw the son of man as well and because of his revelation and leading we saw the one true God

You are asking if God the Father told me that He is Jesus Christ right?

God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy spirit are of one essence but different personalities that cannot be separated from each other.
God the Father created us
God the Son saved us from our sins, dying on the Cross.
God the Holy spirit reveals to us the truth keeping us in the path of salvation and perfecting us into a church without spot nor wrinkle.

gohf:
suggestion are open to personally interpretation like Peter wrote, 2Pet.1.20 Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation.

If it's not by the Holy Spirit which revealed to Peter that Jesus is the son, not that he is God or another God, but the son of the living God.

In the Genesis 18& 19, you read and YHVH left yet Abraham was before YHVH, because the three angels represented his presence. Jacob saw the face of God, well he saw meet and wrestled with an angel. There are other numerous examples. It's like talking THROUGH your phone to someone, you are not speaking to the phone even though we can speak to our phones, make records and all that.


You are using hints that generations of Hebrew prophets before and after the coming of Jesus Christ interpreted as ONLY ONE GOD AND NONE OTHER, even David didn't call the Messiah YHVH but Adoni, the same term Sarah uses for her husband.

There's more to share but if this much you don't understand nor accept then none will be added to you even that which you have may be taken away.

God is God, he is who he is, let's not join those who which to destroy his personality by creating false personalities for him. 🙏🏾

Jesus christ is not a false personality of God neither is the Holyspirit.
John ch 1 :1 to 14 reveals this
In the beginning was the Word (Jesus christ was the Word of God) and the Word was with God (Jesus was with God the Father) and the Word was God (Jesus christ was God) the same was in the beginning with God (Jesus was with God in the beginning) etc

gohf:
now are you a distinct person inseparable from God?
If no, then something separates you from the love of God?

If yes, then are you a child of God right?
Does a child of God lack his divine nature, attributes, and eternity?

If no, and as a child of God you have his nature and eternity, DOES THAT MAKE YOU GOD? YES OR NO

I don't understand your question here can you explain better
I Chibuezem was birthed by my parents having two nature's physical (flesh) and spiritual (soul and spirit) . Spiritual will go back to God for judgment while the flesh will rot away. On becoming born again the word of God was planted in me to Host the spirit of God transforming my spiritman into the image and likeness of God as it was in the beginning. Through the word and spirit of God in me I have become a citizen of the kingdom of God to inherit the earth for his glory and ascend into the new earth.
I don't know if I answered the question sha ping me

gohf:
did God teach you that he is Jesus Christ of Nazareth or that there is another God?

God the Father though his spirit revealed to me that He is one with His Son Jesus Christ 😂😂😂
Oya ask me again

Ken4Christ:
And who is Jesus? His he lesser than the Holy Spirit?

Jesus Christ is the son of God, the wisdom of God, the Word of God made flesh. He is my messiah, the soon coming king.
He is not lesser or greater than the Holy spirit
The holy spirit is His spirit and also the spirit of God the Father
Remember there is on God who's essence is the same in the Father Son and holy spirit
Did you watch the YouTube video I sent?
If no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f4BJgaOStI?si=qlbiNMV2qLek0qm4

Chibuezem:
I've answered your question several times. The scripture you posted is correct.

You didn't answer my question and I tired of repeating the same question over over again. I didn't ask you if the scriptures I posted were right or wrong. And I have told you this same thing more than 3 times.

Chibuezem:
I have answered his question already. The revelation is personal but concludes that trinity is true 😁 Oya bash me.
The truth is my revelation from God cannot convince you enough compared to the one that God will give you. All you need to do is to ask with openness of the heart and He will reveal all things through the Holyspirit who is the teacher and comforter 😊

Beware, any revelation that supports trinity which was never inspired by the Holy spirit and seen in the bible is from satan and the antichrist. The scriptures I posted which you confirmed to be corrected are all against trinity.

Boomark:
Beware, any revelation that supports trinity which was never inspired by the Holy spirit and seen in the bible is from satan and the antichrist. The scriptures I posted which you confirmed to be corrected are all against trinity.

lol I will keep on with my revelations from God as seen in the scriptures. Holyspirit thank you for giving me understanding.
Glory to the God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy spirit. You don't need the wisdom of men to describe your existence.
Bookman have a wonderful night.

Gabrielshow24:
Agree to what question exactly 🤦🏾‍♂️? What manner of deceit is this?
Alright, I will use the exact words of Jesus, I will quote the verse so that you have no excuse! 😂

Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? John14:9

Stop pretending as if you don't understand simple english.

I have agreed to answer your question. Do you agree to answer my own question also after answering your own? You will have to reciprocate my gesture.

Someone that doesn't understand this thing cannot understand anything.

Chibuezem:
lol I will keep on with my revelations from God as seen in the scriptures. Holyspirit thank you for giving me understanding.
Glory to the God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy spirit. You don't need the wisdom of men to describe your existence.
Bookman have a wonderful night.

Bye bye

gohf:
you believe in a doctrine filled with so much confusion and variations and many don't even agree with their own definition of the term. You have built your faith not upon the rock but upon sand

Which of the main doctrines of the Christian Faith is not confusion so to speak: the virgin conception of Jesus? His atoning death? His resurrection?, His ascension? His promise of coming back? Resurrection of the dead? New birth?

Everything in Christianity is not logical in the actual sense. If I believe in all above, why can't I believe in a triune God?