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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Silentgroper(m): 7:05pm On Jul 19, 2025
Hojlund needs to know when to shoot and when to pass .. he is a striker .


.I was literally dumbstrucked when he gave that back pass instead of shooting which could have lead to a goal.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 7:13pm On Jul 19, 2025
afrodoc:
It is still early days but we are still struggling in all phases on the ball.

The defence struggles to bring the ball out ( apart from Heaven and Yoro). the midfield struggles to secure the ball or move it along crisply (apart from maybe Mainoo on occasion), and the attack struggles to create clear chances.

Just for fluidity sake we have to start Heaven and Yoro. Maz and Shaw are too timid on the ball.

For the same reason I would start Maguire over de Ligt for now. Defensively there is not much gap between them and on the ball Maguire is more progressive and courageous than de Ligt. All de Ligt wants to do is pass back to the keeper.

Diego Leon is still raw and needs work.

Cunha is going to be a good contributor.

Bruno is a problem in any position on the pitch in this formation.
walahi, I was waiting for your comment on Bruno. If to say u mention am, na me and you today angry grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 7:22pm On Jul 19, 2025
lekkie073:
walahi, I was waiting for your comment on Bruno. If to say u mention am, na me and you today angry grin grin
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 7:23pm On Jul 19, 2025
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 7:25pm On Jul 19, 2025
Barca are paying all of Rashford's wages which is good. That is at least 10m saved for a season. €35m to make it permanent if Barca decide to take up that offer.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 7:25pm On Jul 19, 2025
afrodoc:
It is still early days but we are still struggling in all phases on the ball.

The defence struggles to bring the ball out ( apart from Heaven and Yoro). the midfield struggles to secure the ball or move it along crisply (apart from maybe Mainoo on occasion), and the attack struggles to create clear chances.

Just for fluidity sake we have to start Heaven and Yoro. Maz and Shaw are too timid on the ball.

For the same reason I would start Maguire over de Ligt for now. Defensively there is not much gap between them and on the ball Maguire is more progressive and courageous than de Ligt. All de Ligt wants to do is pass back to the keeper.

Diego Leon is still raw and needs work.

Cunha is going to be a good contributor.

Bruno is a problem in any position on the pitch in this formation.
This part. So many times the CBs and Bayindir had the ball and every single time nobody from midfield showed up to get it off their hands. Bruno and Casemiro just stood there in midfield and didn't even try to shake their man so they can be a passing option. Same with the rest of the team.
This is one place where I really envy other teams like PSG. Vitinha would entered box to come and collect it personally from his keeper
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa: 7:46pm On Jul 19, 2025
TrebleChamp:
I wanted Bruno sold because i didn't see him fitting into the system judging from last season, but United rejected £100m for him because Amorim didn't want him to leave. Bruno is an attacking midfielder in a 433 or 4231 formation, playing him in central midfield will not work in my opinion...
I have been saying it that it would be completely unacceptable if Amorim is still struggling to "fit" Bruno into his setup again this season...especially when he has flat out refused to be flexible with his formation and most importantly, rejected the option of selling him for 100m.

It would be another unforgivable offence and I trust that he has it all figured out!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 7:58pm On Jul 19, 2025
TrebleChamp:
I wanted Bruno sold because i didn't see him fitting into the system judging from last season, but United rejected £100m for him because Amorim didn't want him to leave. Bruno is an attacking midfielder in a 433 or 4231 formation, playing him in central midfield will not work in my opinion...
.....everyone on this board wants Bruno sold, even beyond this board. He offers nothing than nagging on the pitch.

Team fair better in the 2nd half cos Bruno ain't in the lineup. Ain't gonna take it easy with Amorim again, if he keeps playing him in the attacking role.

Let him start working on himself as a CM. Rooney did it for the club.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 8:00pm On Jul 19, 2025
KingTom:
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A muumu that would be shipped back to United at the end of the seaon, him and Scamcho are too fullish. Maybe he will accept a massive pay cut to make the move permanent..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 8:04pm On Jul 19, 2025
Lana1:
This part. So many times the CBs and Bayindir had the ball and every single time nobody from midfield showed up to get it off their hands. Bruno and Casemiro just stood there in midfield and didn't even try to shake their man so they can be a passing option. Same with the rest of the team.
This is one place where I really envy other teams like PSG. Vitinha would entered box to come and collect it personally from his keeper
Neither Bruno nor Casemiro have the ball security to play in that position effectively. Their touch is not clean enough and their turn is not tight enough, meaning they can't receive the ball on the half turn. Furthermore, they can't dribble their way out of pressure.

If we insist on Case and Bruno as starting CMs then we must play Heaven and Yoro, or we will struggle to progress the ball.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa:
nitrogen:
I don’t know how we plan to win or draw any of our first five games with the way we play. Another relegation battle loading?
I dozed off 30mins into that Borefest.

Normally, one shouldnt read too much meaning into preseason games that are meant to get players back in shape and fitness but bruh - that performance was literally us continuing from where we stopped last season.

Hopefully, our usual Counter attacking football would bail us out..especially vs the big guns in those 5 fixtures

As it is, na to just hope that Mbuemo and Cunha work up some magic upfront.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 8:30pm On Jul 19, 2025
Jamiuokolaa:
I dozed off 30mins into that Borefest.

Normally, one shouldnt read too much meaning into preseason games that are meant to get players back in shape and fitness but bruh - that performance was literally us continuing from where we stopped last season.

As it is, na to just hope that Mbuemo and Cunha work up some magic upfront
maybe we should get a tall striker and play cross and nod, hoping that a rebound can come towards any of our forwards to score. With Bruno in this line up, moving the ball forward in a fluid manner will be highly impossible.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa:
lekkie073:
maybe we should get a tall striker and play cross and nod, hoping that a rebound can come towards any of our forwards to score. With Bruno in this line up, moving the ball forward in a fluid manner will be highly impossible.
Well, it worked with Maguire upfront last season so we cant rule it out cheesy.

Keeping a close watch on Cunha's temper and attitude - the way he literally shouted at Obi for getting into his way in that first half was a bit worrisome.

I understand that serious concerns about his bahaviour have been raised in the past. Hopefully, it wouldnt be an issue for us.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 8:57pm On Jul 19, 2025
afrodoc2:
Neither Bruno nor Casemiro have the ball security to play in that position effectively. Their touch is not clean enough and their turn is not tight enough, meaning they can't receive the ball on the half turn. Furthermore, they can't dribble their way out of pressure.

If we insist on Case and Bruno as starting CMs then we must play Heaven and Yoro, or we will struggle to progress the ball.
Might be an unpopular opinion but what do you think about Martinez playing that Vitinha DM role for us? I have seen him play his way out of tight spots before to want to see him play DM at least once plus he is also a good passer
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 9:03pm On Jul 19, 2025
Ruben Amorim: "We have a lack of pace, especially in the middle of the park, you can feel it."
.......glad he knows.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 9:14pm On Jul 19, 2025
See huge gap between keeper with the ball and his midfield.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa: 9:37pm On Jul 19, 2025
lekkie073:
🎙️ | Ruben Amorim on Matheus Cunha:

"You can see the connection between him and Bruno is not there yet but it's going to be a good connection..."


Me: I just pray the connection connect or else, it would be a repeat of last season
I dont understand..

Put Mainoo or Mount where?

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 9:37pm On Jul 19, 2025
Lana1:
Might be an unpopular opinion but what do you think about Martinez playing that Vitinha DM role for us? I have seen him play his way out of tight spots before to want to see him play DM at least once plus he is also a good passer
He can't do it. At least not in the EPL. He lacks the stamina, work rate, and agility needed to play that position.

Playing yourself out of trouble now and again is one thing. Having the energy to keep shuffling right and left and back forth in midfield is another thing.

We should also stop trying to force a conversion and instead buy the right players for the right positions.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 9:47pm On Jul 19, 2025
Jamiuokolaa:
I dont understand..

Put Mainoo or Mount where?
I take this to mean Amorim is already looking at the option of trying Mason or Kobbie in that position presently occupied by Bruno. As Afrodoc said, Bruno is a problem in this present set up, irrespective of where he is designated to play.

Amorim will only have himself to blame if he continues to overlook the ineffectiveness of Bruno in this 3-4-3 formation
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa:
lekkie073:
I take this to mean Amorim is already looking at the option of trying Mason or Kobbie in that position presently occupied by Bruno.

Amorim will only have himself to blame if he continues to overlook the ineffectiveness of Bruno in this 3-4-3 formation
So the club passed up the chance to make 100m+....only for Amorim to decide this way?

Lol lol.

Anyways, na still pre-season we dey - there is still plenty of time and money for the manager to fine-tune his plans.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 10:21pm On Jul 19, 2025
afrodoc2:
He can't do it. At least not in the EPL. He lacks the stamina, work rate, and agility needed to play that position.

Playing yourself out of trouble now and again is one thing. Having the energy to keep shuffling right and left and back forth in midfield is another thing.

We should also stop trying to force a conversion and instead buy the right players for the right positions.
I'm all for buying players but buying players right now seems like an Herculean task for this management and Martinez is the only one who looks qualified enough to play that role in this team.

As for player conversions one person that managers needs to stop trying to shoehorn into the team is Bruno. ETH did it playing him at RW and now Amorim is playing him at CM. It is pointless playing him anywhere else that isn't attacking midfield. Any midfielder we go for next has to be a proper ball playing DM that can progress the ball from defence to attack
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BARAJ92(m): 11:06pm On Jul 19, 2025
MRTA7:
Barca are paying all of Rashford's wages which is good. That is at least 10m saved for a season. €35m to make it permanent if Barca decide to take up that offer.
This amount is too low
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by andrewbaba44: 6:31am On Jul 20, 2025
afrodoc2:
He can't do it. At least not in the EPL. He lacks the stamina, work rate, and agility needed to play that position.

Playing yourself out of trouble now and again is one thing. Having the energy to keep shuffling right and left and back forth in midfield is another thing.

We should also stop trying to force a conversion and instead buy the right players for the right positions.
Martinez ke

He can’t do it anywhere
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 7:33am On Jul 20, 2025
🚨🩺 Bryan Mbeumo completes second part of medical at Man United today.

He’s expected at Carrington for media and formal contract signing until June 2030 plus option until 2031.

- Fabrizio Romano
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 7:35am On Jul 20, 2025
BARAJ92:
This amount is too low
......nothing is too low to discard Rashford. We didn’t sign him for any penny by the way.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 8:10am On Jul 20, 2025
United fans rant/ complain too much. These are preseason matches- a time for coaches to makes mistakes , implement new ideas . ls not all about winning matches. New season starts next month. lf Amorim starts been unfortunate then ...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 8:10am On Jul 20, 2025
andrewbaba44:
Martinez ke

He can’t do it anywhere
Yeah probably but definitely not in the EPL with the pace of the game there.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:20am On Jul 20, 2025
TrebleChamp:
We will have to agree at some point that 343 is not working for us, or maybe it could work with Mbeumo on the right and a big strong bully striker like Aghehowa.
Aside that we need some speed and urgency with the ball movement. We need a lot of people arriving in the box and also demanding the ball. Many times we had very few people in the box when we attacked because the players can't match the energy needed for going up down the field for the whole 90 minutes. Hopefully they build that fitness so that when we're attacking, we should be seeing at least 3 players in the box, and when there's a counter they can still chase down the ball and win it back.

We already agreed a couple of things need to change in terms of personnel. I can only see Cunha in the attack so far. We need more hustlers
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:29am On Jul 20, 2025
We need our midfielders escaping their markers and showing up for passes. Whether it's a 343, 433, 442 or 451, you need players constantly moving and showing up for the ball. Players that can progress with the ball and release the ball on time, not trying to fight their way through 3 opponents in the midfield
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 8:43am On Jul 20, 2025
engrelvis:
United fans rant/ complain too much. These are preseason matches- a time for coaches to makes mistakes , implement new ideas . ls not all about winning matches. New season starts next month. lf Amorim starts been unfortunate then ...
......ain't sure you watched the match. We honestly don't care if they make mistakes or not, we just don't wanna see us playing like last season again.

First half reminds us of last season all over again. They ain't pressing aggressively, playing safe as usual like we were competing for a trophy.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 8:46am On Jul 20, 2025
eph12:
We need our midfielders escaping their markers and showing up for passes. Whether it's a 343, 433, 442 or 451, you need players constantly moving and showing up for the ball. Players that can progress with the ball and release the ball on time, not trying to fight their way through 3 opponents in the midfield
.....simple! We wanna be playing from the back, yet no player is showing up to collect ball and drive it forward.

Our CBs can't dribble a cone or shield the ball except Yoro, Heaven and Licha. We have got serious works to do.

Amorim should risk it all or leave. Let us see what he can offer not what players can offer. We need to know who to blame this time around.
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