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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 2:41pm On Jul 19, 2025
Goke7:
Am so sorry for all you're going through, please stay strong ( easier said than done) and seek all manner of legal help you can get.

You see all these kids that we spend huge resources on in the name of a better life, hmmm, no wonder many are sending them back home in Nigeria or Africa to school, where oraimo cord will reset their brains for real with no government interference.
Even sending them home isn’t easy. There must be valid reason.
I laugh at all them those I’m doing it for my kids that’s why I japa 🤣
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Hkana: 7:11pm On Jul 19, 2025
Goke7:
Am so sorry for all you're going through, please stay strong ( easier said than done) and seek all manner of legal help you can get.

You see all these kids that we spend huge resources on in the name of a better life, hmmm, no wonder many are sending them back home in Nigeria or Africa to school, where oraimo cord will reset their brains for real with no government interference.
It's a sad reality for some families. Some watch their kids go astray before their very eyes and are unable to do anything about it because the only sure way they know that will set such kids straight will get them (the parents) in trouble with "the authority" here. Really sad.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Hkana: 7:13pm On Jul 19, 2025
lavida001:
Even sending them home isn’t easy. There must be valid reason.
I laugh at all them those I’m doing it for my kids that’s why I japa 🤣
There's nothing remotely funny about that. Everyone is entitled to their reason for japa, shouldn't be something to mock about.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 7:23pm On Jul 19, 2025
Hkana:
It's a sad reality for some families. Some watch their kids go astray before their very eyes and are unable to do anything about it because the only sure way they know that will set such kids straight will get them (the parents) in trouble with "the authority" here. Really sad.
And am not one of those who will blame any parent for their child going astray cos I have seen parents who did all the right things yet the child went his or her own way. Honestly I may begin to support the idea of taking them back home if they are becoming uncontrollable cos why will a hardworking parent lose their visa status because of one coconut head! Not fair mhen!
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Fred2020: 8:43pm On Jul 19, 2025
Hkana:
It's a sad reality for some families. Some watch their kids go astray before their very eyes and are unable to do anything about it because the only sure way they know that will set such kids straight will get them (the parents) in trouble with "the authority" here. Really sad.
One thing I learnt quickly here is to completely forbid words like hit, beat, knock, hurt being said in the house.

It's one thing to avoid discipline as a contact-sport at home, but it's another to ensure that even mild forms of discipline are correctly worded by the kids. I think the latter is actually what gets more parents in trouble—not necessarily the severity of the action.

I have a 2-year-old who actively copies what his older brother (who's 5) says.

The kids are often completely unaware of the implication of what they say and how it might be interpreted in the environment they're in. Better to forbid those words at home so they dont by a slip-of-tongue use them outside to describe their experience at home.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 9:45pm On Jul 19, 2025
Hkana:
There's nothing remotely funny about that. Everyone is entitled to their reason for japa, shouldn't be something to mock about.
I don say I no go do back and forth with folks on this faceless platform. I can give my opinion and you spin it to suit your own personal narrative even if that’s not what I meant… and that’s totally 👍🏿

One thing I have realised is in this country is that you don’t actually own your kids, the government does and they decide what’s best for them.

Mock someone for losing their kids is something I won’t do. I hope the kids are allowed home safe to their parents 🙏🏿
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 10:36pm On Jul 19, 2025
justwise:
I have to agree with AKALAMAGBO', I don’t know why you went nuclear on gender about this.

How will we discuss this without bringing the father into it?

And to your point about mothers knowing what is best for the children and in a better position to make decisions for their future? If that is true then the street of London and major UK cities would be a safer place. Vast majority of knife stabbing is London and other cities are carried out by kids with no biological father in their lives and they hardly finish school
Exactly
Single Mom's are statistically doing a far worse job in raising kids, especially among "ethnic" communities

And we can see the results like you have rightly captured
Im sure they will still blame the men but it is what it is
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by abuhusna1: 5:34am On Jul 20, 2025
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@Mosun8220 pls get in touch with Mr Lekan lije everyone said. I have watched him saved many families and reunites them with their kids after taken away by social workers. You can watch some if his videos and learn some defensive skills there.
Taking your kids straight away without investigation is not how things works and i feel they are trying to target immigrants cos my sister british citizen whose son accused abuse never got her kids taken away as they investigated the matter and the child later exonerates the parents that they never did it but was just trying to paint a story.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 7:01am On Jul 20, 2025
abuhusna1:
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdm5CG4K/
@Mosun8220 pls get in touch with Mr Lekan lije everyone said. I have watched him saved many families and reunites them with their kids after taken away by social workers. You can watch some if his videos and learn some defensive skills there.
Taking your kids straight away without investigation is not how things works and i feel they are trying to target immigrants cos my sister british citizen whose son accused abuse never got her kids taken away as they investigated the matter and the child later exonerates the parents that they never did it but was just trying to paint a story.
This is the person I referenced from the NIUK X space meeting....... He must be doing exploits, saving families.....
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 8:06am On Jul 20, 2025
abuhusna1:
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdm5CG4K/
@Mosun8220 pls get in touch with Mr Lekan lije everyone said. I have watched him saved many families and reunites them with their kids after taken away by social workers. You can watch some if his videos and learn some defensive skills there.
Taking your kids straight away without investigation is not how things works and i feel they are trying to target immigrants cos my sister british citizen whose son accused abuse never got her kids taken away as they investigated the matter and the child later exonerates the parents that they never did it but was just trying to paint a story.
I actually wanted to say this earlier but just wanted to avoid the backlash of the victim tag, it’s obvious especially with the way the op was quickly dismissed from work and that’s the strategy now as any accusation is currently being linked to deportation as we continue to wallow in this anti immigrant sentiment and regime, I hear there are even plans now to empower the police to use their discretion to deport immigrants on the spot even for minor offences like driving cautions and so on. I think everyone on a visa should just be on guard, don’t drive without a full licence and avoid trouble as much as you can, if a child is becoming uncontrollable abeg do all you can to avoid issues with the govt ( if possible deport the child yourself back home instead of you being deported). We can say this is fear mongering but it’s really getting more hostile out there.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 8:23am On Jul 20, 2025
Goke7:
I actually wanted to say this earlier but just wanted to avoid the backlash of the victim tag, it’s obvious especially with the way the op was quickly dismissed from work and that’s the strategy now as any accusation is currently being linked to deportation as we continue to wallow in this anti immigrant sentiment and regime, I hear there are even plans now to empower the police to use their discretion to deport immigrants on the spot even for minor offences like driving cautions and so on. I think everyone on a visa should just be on guard, don’t drive without a full licence and avoid trouble as much as you can, if a child is becoming uncontrollable abeg do all you can to avoid issues with the govt ( if possible deport the child yourself back home instead of you being deported). We can say this is fear mongering but it’s really getting more hostile out there.
Remember the case of the Ghanaian boy that sued his parents, for deporting him back to Ghana. He won his appeal...... 😁😂

I don't know the house he would be returning to in the UK, or would the state take responsibility over him or would the judge mandate his parents to assume full responsibility...... 😉😁
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Treadway: 9:18am On Jul 20, 2025
Lexusgs430:
Remember the case of the Ghanaian boy that sued his parents, for deporting him back to Ghana. He won his appeal...... 😁😂

I don't know the house he would be returning to in the UK, or would the state take responsibility over him or would the judge mandate his parents to assume full responsibility...... 😉😁
that case is slightly different as I believe that one was a British citizen already. This one no get permanent settlement much less citizenship, so I was wondering what will happen to the silly child in this case if the parents are evicted. On what visa will the child remain? No be same Nigeria dem go still fling am join, abi dem go give pikin ILR or citizenship for this ni
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 9:21am On Jul 20, 2025
Lexusgs430:
Remember the case of the Ghanaian boy that sued his parents, for deporting him back to Ghana. He won his appeal...... 😁😂

I don't know the house he would be returning to in the UK, or would the state take responsibility over him or would the judge mandate his parents to assume full responsibility...... 😉😁
The parents are not on a visa I assume, at least there is no risk of deportation for them. The parents go just ‘gba be’ till he’s of age to get a house of his own na our brothers and sisters on visa na my main concern. May all our school fees, visa fees, ihs fees and all taxes not come to nought cos of coconut heads o! e no funny where will people start from?

But that Ghanaian boy na ebora sha 😂
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 9:28am On Jul 20, 2025
Treadway:
that case is slightly different as I believe that one was a British citizen already. This one no get permanent settlement much less citizenship, so I was wondering what will happen to the silly child in this case if the parents are evicted. On what visa will the child remain? No be same Nigeria dem go still fling am join, abi dem go give pikin ILR or citizenship for this ni
Unfortunately the child is protected by the law in the uk and will never leave, as he or she will now be govt responsibility, he or she will remain and get ilr sef in seven years time and become citizen. You see why am suggesting make the parent quickly pack any uncontrollable child back home? Na so e be o! Remember ekweremadu matter is the boy not still in uk? While Oga Dey inside prison. While that case looks different it underscores how children are being protected and many of them are beginning to know this and use against their parents.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 10:25am On Jul 20, 2025
Goke7:
Unfortunately the child is protected by the law in the uk and will never leave, as he or she will now be govt responsibility, he or she will remain and get ilr sef in seven years time and become citizen. You see why am suggesting make the parent quickly pack any uncontrollable child back home? Na so e be o! Remember ekweremadu matter is the boy not still in uk? While Oga Dey inside prison. While that case looks different it underscores how children are being protected and many of them are beginning to know this and use against their parents.
Exactly my point..... Infact a case precedent is available, where the judge mandated the Nigerian parents to produce their Nigerian son at the next hearing (in 7 days)........ 🤣🇳🇬😁


All of this conversations is not to score cheap points, but serve as a form of education to us all...

My experience with social services, is well documented on this thread.. . .. Me the David, defeated the goliath (they even tendered a letter of apology)......🤣😂🤣
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 10:39am On Jul 20, 2025
Lexusgs430:
Exactly my point..... Infact a case precedent is available, where the judge mandated the Nigerian parents to produce their Nigerian son at the next hearing (in 7 days)........ 🤣🇳🇬😁


All of this conversations is not to score cheap points, but serve as a form of education to us all...

My experience with social services, is well documented on this thread.. . .. Me the David, defeated the goliath (they even tendered a letter of apology)......🤣😂🤣
wahala grin na to disown pikin remain now o!
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(mod): 10:50am On Jul 20, 2025
abuhusna1:
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdm5CG4K/
@Mosun8220 pls get in touch with Mr Lekan lije everyone said. I have watched him saved many families and reunites them with their kids after taken away by social workers. You can watch some if his videos and learn some defensive skills there.
Taking your kids straight away without investigation is not how things works and i feel they are trying to target immigrants cos my sister british citizen whose son accused abuse never got her kids taken away as they investigated the matter and the child later exonerates the parents that they never did it but was just trying to paint a story.
I don’t believe this is true, social workers will not take your child straight away without any investigation, they will investigate the issue before it gets to the point of taking your kids, I’m not in any way supporting the idea of taking kids away from their parents, parents need support and time to get things right.

Social worker is not targeting immigrants, the problem here is that immigrants especially the new arrivals are more likely to get in trouble with social workers as they may not be aware of certain laws as regards the child welfare laws.

I’m not a huge fan of social workers even though I understand why they were established. I don’t believe that kids taken into social welfare end up better than staying with parents.


Parents make mistakes however I don’t think they should be punished by taking away their kids.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by abuhusna1: 11:06am On Jul 20, 2025
Goke7:
The parents are not on a visa I assume, at least there is no risk of deportation for them. The parents go just ‘gba be’ till he’s of age to get a house of his own na our brothers and sisters on visa na my main concern. May all our school fees, visa fees, ihs fees and all taxes not come to nought cos of coconut heads o! e no funny where will people start from?

But that Ghanaian boy na ebora sha 😂
The experience of the young lady really taking me off guard and I hope and pray she overcomes cosnif whe was successfully sent back to Nigeria no chance she will ever get the children back. No parent can bear such humiliation
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by mrjojo: 11:35am On Jul 20, 2025
Mosun8220:
They are currently in foster care and we don’t have access to them.

One of them sneaked out of the house to his friend’s place without the knowledge of my wife . It was from his friend’s place that he told them we used to beat him with TV cable which is not true. They informed the social worker and we got arrested. Then my employer was informed and I was disengaged me and my COS was cancelled.

Currently we are in court. Both parents are involved.
I truly sympathise with you. Life as a parent is challenging enough, and when combined with the experience of being an immigrant, it becomes even more difficult. Honestly, it's no small feat.

You've been given a lot of useful information to help you make informed decisions about your next steps. Safeguarding is a very serious issue, and it is especially important for immigrant parents to get books on parenting in this country. You may need to quickly adapt habits and mindsets that are normal in Nigeria but might not be acceptable here.

It makes sense that your employer decided to let you go, particularly if you worked in the care industry. An ongoing safeguarding investigation, especially involving reports from your child or wife even if later proven false or due to miscommunication carries significant weight. Unfortunately, this is often the reality. There are many factors beyond your control, and a simple accusation can practically ruin your life before the investigation concludes. It’s like walking on eggshells, especially as a male immigrant.

Also, why does your child feel the need to sneak out when your wife is home? Are they not allowed to visit friends? Socialising is important, and parents should ensure their kids feel comfortable asking for permission. If previous requests were often denied or ignored, it could explain why they resort to sneaking out. There’s nothing stopping you from taking them to their friends' place and picking them up afterwards.

Additionally, your child mentioning being beaten with a TV cord sounds too detailed to be innocent rambling. Let me clarify.I'm not suggesting you hit your kids, but language matters. Do you ever suggest things like this maybe when angry, either to them or their siblings? Was this a common phrase before moving to the UK?

You should also teach your children how to express themselves using appropriate language. I’ve seen cases where a child told a friend their dad hurt them when all the dad did was take away their Nintendo Switch. Often, these kids have no idea how their innocent words are perceived. So, teaching them to communicate accurately is crucial and this applies to adults as well.

Finally, remember that your child is still a child. As painful as this situation feels, try not to take it to heart and forgive. Sending them back to Nigeria isn't always the solution, in my opinion. Presence is an essential part of parenting.

For the immigration aspect, message Chymaker on X. You can apply for FLR and request an administrative review.

This will pass soon.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 11:35am On Jul 20, 2025
justwise:
I don’t believe this is true, social workers will not take your child straight away without any investigation, they will investigate the issue before it gets to the point of taking your kids, I’m not in any way supporting the idea of taking kids away from their parents, parents need support and time to get things right.

Social worker is not targeting immigrants, the problem here is that immigrants especially the new arrivals are more likely to get in trouble with social workers as they may not be aware of certain laws as regards the child welfare laws.

I’m not a huge fan of social workers even though I understand why they were established. I don’t believe that kids taken into social welfare end up better than staying with parents.


Parents make mistakes however I don’t think they should be punished by taking away their kids.
While this may not be true theoretically but in practice it looks so. I also know of a case involving a college of my spouse (white British) who was reported in fact it was the headteacher of the school who reported to the social services of alleged neglect which was even a set up by her ex husband, she however scaled through but I doubt if it was a Nigerian or a visa holder if the outcome would be same. Another thing I learnt especially from the Brits which I think we Nigerians or Africans should also learn is that when there are issues within the family especially between children and parents they reach out to relatives first like uncles and aunts before they allow it get to the level of social services. I know we live in an individual based society but it’s good we have a kind of social community system support that can be our first point of call for quick assistance and advice before things get out of hand. Again any child that will go astray will still do but perhaps we can still try. My view!
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 12:32pm On Jul 20, 2025
Goke7:
wahala grin na to disown pikin remain now o!
They would make it a safeguarding issue...... 😁😊😂
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 5:36pm On Jul 20, 2025
abuhusna1:
The experience of the young lady really taking me off guard and I hope and pray she overcomes cosnif whe was successfully sent back to Nigeria no chance she will ever get the children back. No parent can bear such humiliation
The only humiliation would be if they are sent out of the country (I pray not) but for the child, it's his/her loss. Such a child (probably above 13 years) who reports their parents is not worthy of being called a child. Good riddance. May God help the OP to get over this.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Mindlog: 7:50pm On Jul 20, 2025
Lexusgs430:
Remember the case of the Ghanaian boy that sued his parents, for deporting him back to Ghana. He won his appeal...... 😁😂

I don't know the house he would be returning to in the UK, or would the state take responsibility over him or would the judge mandate his parents to assume full responsibility...... 😉😁
Very likely in foster care and if it escalates, a children residential home.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 8:52pm On Jul 20, 2025
More proof that Badenough is a pathological liar:

Interview: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/20/world/video/gps0720-britain-immigration-badenoch

Rebuttal: https://www.thecable.ng/badenoch-my-children-cant-get-nigerian-citizenship-because-im-a-woman-yet-nigerians-easily-become-british/

Direct link to Nigerian constitution to preempt those who would rather rely on quotes from random people saying what they want to hear, as usual: http://www.nigeria-law.org/ConstitutionOfTheFederalRepublicOfNigeria.htm#Chapter_3

Section 25. (1) clearly states that her children can get citizenship through her. Why on earth would she tell such a blatant lie?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 9:25pm On Jul 20, 2025
Goodenoch:
More proof that Badenough is a pathological liar:

Interview: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/20/world/video/gps0720-britain-immigration-badenoch

Rebuttal: https://www.thecable.ng/badenoch-my-children-cant-get-nigerian-citizenship-because-im-a-woman-yet-nigerians-easily-become-british/

Direct link to Nigerian constitution to preempt those who would rather rely on quotes from random people saying what they want to hear, as usual: http://www.nigeria-law.org/ConstitutionOfTheFederalRepublicOfNigeria.htm#Chapter_3

Section 25. (1) clearly states that her children can get citizenship through her. Why on earth would she tell such a blatant lie?
This is how the falsehood of Nigeria granting US citizens only single entry visas spread like wildfire, but why is Nigeria becoming a target these days with blatant falsehood and propaganda by the west, Is there a gang up against the country, I know our sins are plenty but make dem take am easy with these lies na Omo na wa o!

If Madam kemi doesn’t want Nigerian citizenship for her children that’s fine but she doesn’t need to lie to incite hatred against Nigeria.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by nerdymonk: 6:36am On Jul 21, 2025
Goke7:
This is how the falsehood of Nigeria granting US citizens only single entry visas spread like wildfire, but why is Nigeria becoming a target these days with blatant falsehood and propaganda by the west, Is there a gang up against the country, I know our sins are plenty but make dem take am easy with these lies na Omo na wa o!

If Madam kemi doesn’t want Nigerian citizenship for her children that’s fine but she doesn’t need to lie to incite hatred against Nigeria.
Politicians and lies...5 and 6 🤣🤣

Like making it difficult for legal immigrants to get British citizenship will solve all the problems in the UK.

Eldorado UK 🤣
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 7:05am On Jul 21, 2025
Goke7:
This is how the falsehood of Nigeria granting US citizens only single entry visas spread like wildfire, but why is Nigeria becoming a target these days with blatant falsehood and propaganda by the west, Is there a gang up against the country, I know our sins are plenty but make dem take am easy with these lies na Omo na wa o!

If Madam kemi doesn’t want Nigerian citizenship for her children that’s fine but she doesn’t need to lie to incite hatred against Nigeria.
To be honest at this point I’m convinced it’s a mental issue of some kind, because it’s something that’s so easy to verify and she must have known it would be fact-checked very quickly. I also cannot believe she didn’t know because again it’s such a basic thing that if she had ever done 1 minute of research to find out for the sake of her children, she’d know the real position.

Alternatively, maybe she just doesn’t care about the truth or being fact-checked because she knows the base she’s appealing to who jump on anything to justify their animus against immigrants (especially Africans) are too dumb/lazy to fact check anything.

I’m sure in the Daily Mail comment sections you’ll see this repeated over and over now till it becomes the truth in certain circles and if you try to educate them it’ll be as if you’re the one who’s lying or ignorant - much like all the tales of asylum seekers being given iPhones and luxury cars as they get off the boats.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 7:43am On Jul 21, 2025
nerdymonk:
Politicians and lies...5 and 6 🤣🤣

Like making it difficult for legal immigrants to get British citizenship will solve all the problems in the UK.

Eldorado UK 🤣
That’s far right politics for you. They need to continue lying to their base to keep them happy cos that’s all they’ve got.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Cyberknight: 7:47am On Jul 21, 2025
ehizario2012:
The only humiliation would be if they are sent out of the country (I pray not) but for the child, it's his/her loss. Such a child (probably above 13 years) who reports their parents is not worthy of being called a child. Good riddance. May God help the OP to get over this.
Easy on the child.
I've every sympathy for the OP, but children are children and generally haven't much wisdom or self-control and are inherently capable of doing foolish things. We were all children once.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 7:50am On Jul 21, 2025
Goodenoch:
To be honest at this point I’m convinced it’s a mental issue of some kind, because it’s something that’s so easy to verify and she must have known it would be fact-checked very quickly. I also cannot believe she didn’t know because again it’s such a basic thing that if she had ever done 1 minute of research to find out for the sake of her children, she’d know the real position.

Alternatively, maybe she just doesn’t care about the truth or being fact-checked because she knows the base she’s appealing to who jump on anything to justify their animus against immigrants (especially Africans) are too dumb/lazy to fact check anything.

I’m sure in the Daily Mail comment sections you’ll see this repeated over and over now till it becomes the truth in certain circles and if you try to educate them it’ll be as if you’re the one who’s lying or ignorant - much like all the tales of asylum seekers being given iPhones and luxury cars as they get off the boats.
Tomorrow, if she says someone stole meat from her mother’s pot of stew in Naija, they will believe her, especially our people. 😂 That’s how stupid we can be! They will say she’s telling the truth, so our leaders can change.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 8:14am On Jul 21, 2025
Cyberknight:
Easy on the child.
I've every sympathy for the OP, but children are children and generally haven't much wisdom or self-control and are inherently capable of doing foolish things. We were all children once.
I'll like to know the age of the children, however a 13+ child isn't a kid. At 13 there are things I would never do. The parents are the ones I pity, they should go and have other children after this episode. God help them.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 8:21am On Jul 21, 2025
ehizario2012:
I'll like to know the age of the children, however a 13+ child isn't a kid. At 13 there are things I would never do. The parents are the ones I pity, they should go and have other children after this episode. God help them.
easy bro, the thing pain me as well but pikin wey go loss go still loss! We just need to be hopeful for the parents to pull through!
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