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Steep:
Man was made a little lower than the angels.
The order of creation is actually
God
Angels
Man
Animals
Plants


Psalms 8:5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.

oh my bad I made a mistake there thanks let me correct it.

Boomark:
Was is it funny that you are dodging my question and giving me irrelevant answers?

You have already seen that I cannot be fooled with all those scriptures I have. My friend gohf is even caring and trying to teach you. But I don't want peace With just one question I have now in my head I will scatter everything you think you know. The truth cannot be scattered by a simple question.

Yh you are wise and able to scatter.

Boomark:
My brother if you reject the words of Jesus Christ and embraced the doctrines of antichrist, you are just wasting your time preaching the gospel for him.

Go and asked the men who did same Matthew 7:21-23. Christ has no business with those who disregard his Father and the commands that came from the Father through him.

lol what words of Jesus Christ did I reject?

Janosky:
Apostle wey write Colossians 2:9 & Ephesians 3:19 have proven the doubters wrong.

Ephesians 3:19 no dey their hearts but E dey their Bible.

No mind bookman He will come and differentiate God From God Almighty 😂

Gabrielshow24:
“Blows”? 😂 What blows did he deal—except the ones he delivered to himself! One moment he's quoting Colossians to emphasize the fullness of God in Christ, and the next, he’s claiming that Jesus, as the fullness of God, is actually written in the book of the Antichrist. 😅

Even his opening statement—‘Jesus is a God but not God Almighty’—immediately revealed that he’s been dealing consistent blows to himself. He couldn’t even comprehend the fact that there’s no real distinction between ‘God’ and ‘God Almighty’ in essence. On top of that, he exposed himself as a liar when he accused me, ‘I lied’—and I even provided visual proof to contradict his claim!

Every verse he attempts to use backfires spectacularly. A ‘slayer of lies’ indeed!

Anyway, I appreciate your input. The same truth regarding the Trinity was revealed to me personally. I don’t need to rely on emotional appeals to validate it—Scripture alone is more than enough, especially when paired with the wisdom granted by God.

At one point, I asked him how he hoped to reconcile Jesus’ words ‘He that has seen me has seen the Father’ with other verses in John and Timothy, not to mention the accounts of the Old Testament prophets seeing the Ancient of Days . And his response? Completely ab-surd. He said, ‘If someone speaks like their mother when seen, it can be said that the person has seen their mother.’ 🤣 Ludicrous!

yh He's hell bent of seeding falsehood in the hearts of men by dancing around scriptures. Right now what I am after is manifesting God. I want to Heal the sick, raise the dead, live a righteous, holy and love filled life on earth. So if He wants to blow people eh he's free bookman you are free

gohf:
no o, I am not expecting anything other than the truth, but right now I am nothing expecting such from you

Here is your question and answer, enjoy it

"You are asking if God the Father told me that He is Jesus Christ right?

God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy spirit are of one essence but different personalities that cannot be separated from each other.
God the Father created us
God the Son saved us from our sins, dying on the Cross.
God the Holy spirit reveals to us the truth keeping us in the path of salvation and perfecting us into a church without spot nor wrinkle."

You could not even clearly say oh yes God did or no God did not, that subtlety is not from God

You know the answer, figure it out besides as a disciple of God you are, you can ask Him and He will answer you. Unless your heart is noisy.

gohf:
Philippians 2:5-8
Let this mind be in you which was in Christ Jesus, who, being in God's nature, did not desire nor consider himself to be equal with God but neutralized his human nature, having taken in the likenesss of men, was born, formed and found as a man, he humbled himself becoming obedient even to death, the death of crucification.

This reveals the nature that was in Jesus that gave him the humble mindset he had, the nature that prevails over the flesh. How was Jesus discovered, how was he found, heuretheis, he wasn't formed into a God but into a man and is a man.

This falls in line with the previous verses 2:1-4 where we should think about others and not just about ourselves, a mind that isn't filled with selfish ambition but is humble.


That is why later Paul writes, in Phil.2.13 for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose.

The nature of God in a child of God brings about such mindset and humility.

Phil.2.13 for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose. (NIV)


Paul is using Jesus as an example of obedience and reward from God. And example Jesus was sent to be to us by God who put his nature in him.

amazing interpretation

gohf:
Num.23.19a God is not a man, that he should lie. He is not a human, that he should change his mind...

Yh God is not a man very correct He doesn't act like Man, He has his nature which Jesus Christ displayed.

Janosky:
You copiously ADDED your own claim to Colossians 2:9.

WHY?

copiously? When it's written there that in Christ dwells the fullness of God🤨. Do you even know the implications of this? Let us know oh wise one😅! Is Christ the fullness of God? Yes? Or No? 🤣

Boomark:
What you posted said, "IN Christ LIVES all the fullness of God..' I didn't see, Jesus IS the fullness of God.

So where did it say that Jesus is the fullness of God? Or you are an antichrist twisting the word of God?

Boomark, kindly explain to us the implication of this statement. Since according to you "Jesus is not the Fullness of God" 😅!

Remember your previous response "Jesus is a God but not God almighty" and how it ended🤣. The same response prompted my question: "What's the difference between God and God almighty?" 👀 A question you haven't provided an answer to😅.

Janosky kindly help your brother! For we know English is hard for you both but it shouldn't be this hard🤔!

Boomark:
Hello bro are you a Christian? Or Hindu or Occultic somebody? If you can't quote a single scripture from Christ who you claim you are serving against what I have written, then know that you are not serving Christ but antichrist.

We are not interested in the definition antichrist have used to deceive you and millions of people. Show working from the scripture.

I've stopped bothering about these people that use all sorts of mental gymnastics and gross scriptural misinterpretation to push this their trinity doctrine. Christ clearly said He has a God, someone says Christ didn't know what he was saying. That Christ is that same God. Those that'll be lost will be list.

Chibuezem:
lol what words of Jesus Christ did I reject?

See here and answer this with options A or B copied out as your answer. Follow this instruction. You can add your own statement after. If you reject Both A and B or run away then you have rejected Christ's word.

John 17:3 NIrV
[3] And what is eternal life? It is knowing you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Revelation 3:12 NIV
[12] The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name.


1. From the scriptures above, do you believe and accept that the Father is the only true God and that the Father is the God of Jesus Christ as Jesus said?

Option:

A. I believe and accept

B. I don't believe and I reject it because he is not correct


Remember to follow instruction and copy out your answer from the given options. You can flee now or disappear if you wish.

Brenbentondiaz:
I've stopped bothering about these people that use all sorts of mental gymnastics and gross scriptural misinterpretation to push this their trinity doctrine. Christ clearly said He has a God, someone says Christ didn't know what he was saying. That Christ is that same God. Those that'll be lost will be list.

When you continue reading you will see how they dodge questions, tell l.i.e.s and and pretend they don't understand simple english in questions.

Satan will be rejoicing at his handiwork.

Gabrielshow24:
very well, brother😂. You asked for it. Let me start by calling the order of the good men 😁: archoladey, Dtruthspeaker, stillDtruth, TenQ, Course, GothamCities, tctrills, Steep, Emusan, Ken4Christ. I will be calling others shortly along with quotes of some embarrassing posts made by Elder, Janosky 😂.

We all know that Jws are Liars. They can deny their own existence if they are pressured to say the Truth.

Brenbentondiaz:
I've stopped bothering about these people that use all sorts of mental gymnastics and gross scriptural misinterpretation to push this their trinity doctrine. Christ clearly said He has a God, someone says Christ didn't know what he was saying. That Christ is that same God. Those that'll be lost will be list.

You have a skewed perception of trinity! God the Father, The son and H.S are different personalities but the underlying essence, which encapsulates the concept called God is implicit within them!

gohf, defined God as a who, enumerating names but he ran way when I asked him whether or not Jesus fits these boundaries he has set as the definition of God!

You likewise can't deny the fact that the Holy spirit of God has the same inherent capabilities as God! Even the scriptures you claim we grossly misinterpret has there within it, Jesus' equality with God based on essence or nature!

Just like your brothers: gohf, boomark, Janosky and max. You have a skewed perception of trinity! If your fellow brother boomark had defined the necessary terms before proceeding he won't be making statements such "Jesus is a God but he is not God almighty" when God is implicitly Almighty! 😂.

MightySparrow:
Simple explanation you can give, you are just typing nonsense here.

See how I replied you from the bottom of my heart in the picture. I need to be sure you are okay.

Janosky:
Nah so Dem dey change the holy Bible to suit what they want.

Nah him friend put "IS" @John 1:1.

Bot has been dealing with me.

That's why they are all confused. They don't know who Jehovah God the Father is. They think of trinity anywhere they see God in the bible. This is the reason they feel embarrassed when they see what they don't understand and they use lies to cover up.

Gabrielshow24:
Boomark, kindly explain to us the implication of this statement. Since according to you "Jesus is not the Fullness of God" 😅!

Remember your previous response "Jesus is a God but not God almighty" and how it ended🤣. The same response prompted my question: "What's the difference between God and God almighty?" 👀 A question you haven't provided an answer to😅.

Janosky kindly help your brother! For we know English is hard for you both but it shouldn't be this hard🤔!

You agreed to answer my question. And I have answered you in the links below. I won't answer any other thing until you answer my own question you have been dodging.

https://www.nairaland.com/8473507/one-god-father-trinity-false/8#136158289

https://www.nairaland.com/8473507/one-god-father-trinity-false/8#136159092

I defeated you in your own question. Try and defeat me here let's see. You are free to run away or say irrelevant things as usual.

See here and answer this with options A or B copied out as your answer. Follow this instruction. You can add your own statement after. If you reject Both A and B or run away then you have rejected Christ's word.

John 17:3 NIrV
[3] And what is eternal life? It is knowing you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Revelation 3:12 NIV
[12] The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name.


1. From the scriptures above, do you believe and accept that the Father is the only true God and that the Father is the God of Jesus Christ as Jesus said?

Option:

A. I believe and accept

B. I don't believe and I reject it because he is not correct


Remember to follow instruction and copy out your answer from the given options. You can flee now or disappear if you wish.


Ken4Christ
StillDtruth
MightySparrow
Steep
And all trinitarian should answer this question if you are not scared of me. Yes I know. Answer my question if you think otherwise.

I am Boomark of God. The great slayer of those who have rejected Christ.

Boomark:
You agreed to answer my question. And I have answered you in the links below. I won't answer any other thing until you answer my own question you have been dodging.

https://www.nairaland.com/8473507/one-god-father-trinity-false/8#136158289

https://www.nairaland.com/8473507/one-god-father-trinity-false/8#136159092

I defeated you in your own question. Try and defeat me here let's see. You are free to run away or say irrelevant things as usual.

See here and answer this with options A or B copied out as your answer. Follow this instruction. You can add your own statement after. If you reject Both A and B or run away then you have rejected Christ's word.

John 17:3 NIrV
[3] And what is eternal life? It is knowing you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Revelation 3:12 NIV
[12] The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name.


1. From the scriptures above, do you believe and accept that the Father is the only true God and that the Father is the God of Jesus Christ as Jesus said?

Option:

A. I believe and accept

B. I don't believe and I reject it because he is not correct


Remember to follow instruction and copy out your answer from the given options. You can flee now or disappear if you wish.


Ken4Christ
StillDtruth
MightySparrow
Steep
And all trinitarian should answer this question if you are not scared of me. Yes I know. Answer my question if you think otherwise.

I am Boomark of God. The great slayer of those who have rejected Christ.

You didn't, the response you gave failed to reconcile the seeing of God by prophet of old and your remark "he that has seen me talking like my mother has seen my mother" —personalized for emphasis! Falls short.

English is your hurdle, you can't seem to understand. Likewise, I have answered your question and I repeat it once more for clarity!
The Son glorified the Father and the Father in return has glorified the Son with a name above every other name and has subjected everything and everyone under him!

Expanse2020:
So Is Jesus God alone
Or 3 in 1 now
You people are confusion is oo.
Kojunkies
Antilam
OLGBUS
TENQ

Sebi you read what TEN.Q said? Let me ask you this. According to ur quran, who is the spirit and word of allah?

Boomark:
If you don't have authority of your to say anything apart from what your mother tells you to say, whoever sees you will likened to haven seen your mother at home because what your mother will use her mouth to tell them is exactly what you will tell them. But you are not your mother.

In verse 16, he said he will pray to the Father. He is not praying to himself. In verse 28, he told them clearly that he is going to the Father and that the Father is greater than him. He is not the Father whom he told them is greater than him. He told them all these still in this same chapter so they don't go and start assuming he is the Father.

So what Jesus said in John 6:46 above is the same thing I tell you that no one has seen God (The Father) according to John 1:18 and 1 Timothy 6:16. Jesus died but the only true God cannot die and no one has seen him, 1 Timothy 6:16.

Do you disagree?

Hi, People of academia, do you accept the bolded explanation given by boomark, the supposed slayers of l.ies!

Even in this response, he didn't reconcile Jesus' speech with other instances of the prophet of old seeing the Ancient of days! Even John that said so also declared in Revelation seeing the ancient of days and the lamb! In his special waec centred wisdom, he thinks he has resolved this "contradiction" 😂!

All of them don't know how to take the bible in whole, like I have said before I repeat it again for the purpose of clarity!

Jesus' speech highlights the fact that men are tuned to seeing things in 3-D and thus it's practically impossible to see an infinite-Dimensioned God! Hence no man has seen God in his true form —Infinite-D. All we have seen are similitudes in 3-D contexts to pass across the message of Majesty and Power to the viewer!

Also he has a skewed perception of trinity! No man claims the Father is the Son, we claim they have the same Essence and Nature! — The nature that implicitly encapsulates the concept called God!

Gabrielshow24:
You didn't, the response you gave failed to reconcile the seeing of God by prophet of old and your remark "he that has seen me talking like my mother has seen my mother" —personalized for emphasis! Falls short.

English is your hurdle, you can't seem to understand. Likewise, I have answered your question and I repeat it once more for clarity!
The Son glorified the Father and the Father in return has glorified the Son with a name above every other name and has subjected everything and everyone under him!

As you all can see, I never asked him if Jesus is singing, praying or glorifying the Father. I never asked him if the Father is glorifying the son. Non of these are in what Jesus said in those scriptures.

So he has been slayed to pieces for rejecting what Christ said about the Father.

To all those who still believe in trinity, this is how you all are. Satan has used tricks to turn you to antichrist.

If you see yourself trying so hard to accept what Christ said from the option I gave or you decide to twist what Jesus Christ said in those scriptures, know that you are of the devil, simple.

Your trinity doctrine is of the devil. A subtle way to make people stand against Christ and Jehovah the only true God.

Boomark is a true Christian and Boomark is a true Christian church. I love this act of providence. Greetings to his colleagues in Antioch.

Boomark of God. The slayer of those who refused to accept what Christ said about his God in plain english

Boomark:
As you all can see, I never asked him if Jesus is singing, praying or glorifying the Father. I never asked him if the Father is glorifying the son. Non of these are in what Jesus said in those scriptures.

So he has been slayed to pieces for rejecting what Christ said about the Father.

To all those who still believe in trinity, this is how you all are. Satan has used tricks to turn you to antichrist.

If you see yourself trying so hard to accept what Christ said from the option I gave or you decide to twist what Jesus Christ said in those scriptures, know that you are of the devil, simple.

Your trinity doctrine is of the devil. A subtle way to make people stand against Christ and Jehovah the only true God.

Boomark is a true Christian and Boomark is a true Christian church. I love this act of providence. Greetings to his colleagues in Antioch.

Boomark of God. The slayer of those who refused to accept what Christ said about his God in plain english

can someone kindly explain to this dude What it means to slay an argument?😂.

Your special-waec-centred wisdom keeps baffling me! You put a false dichotomy to present to the world some facade when in some posts before, I asked you does Jesus saying all these affect his divine Nature? One you provided no answer to!

Jesus is called God's son because God is his physical Father! As a son(man) he calls his Father his God and prays to his Father! Scripture is clear on this—Christ took on flesh(form of a servant)!

Even with all these, God honored him by giving him a name above every other name! Thus, in Flesh he glorified his Father and his Father glorified him with the same glory he had with him even before the foundation of the world! What then did this one slay? He slayed himself!

He even compared semantically "boomark is a Christian", "boomark is a Christian church" to " Jesus is a God but not a God" 😂. What a slayer! You lack simple basic understanding of English talk less of scripture! This same person insinuated Jesus is not the fullness of God🤣.

My God, He slayed himself. I will expose you for the intellectually frail person that you are! Once more, kindly tell the world the difference between God and God almighty 😂? The same person failed to reconcile the numerous instances in scriptures of people seeing God with "No man has seen God".

Look at this "wise" 👀 reply "If you don't have authority of your to say anything apart from what your mother tells you to say, whoever sees you will likened to haven seen your mother at home because what your mother will use her mouth to tell them is exactly what you will tell them. But you are not your mother."—Does this reconcile anything? 🤣

My God, wisdom of Arian. So puzzling and humorous! You can de-ceive those not educated but those in Academia, this cheap scripts of yours won't work! Also, you slay people when they don't have a logical answer to your questions and when you have exposed their contradictions! I have exposed your contradictions numerous times, from when you goofed about my supposed "lies" to your semantic mistakes!

You can do better, boomark!

Gabrielshow24:
Hi, People of academia, do you accept the bolded explanation given by boomark, the supposed slayers of l.ies!

Even in this response, he didn't reconcile Jesus' speech with other instances of the prophet of old seeing the Ancient of days! Even John that said so also declared in Revelation seeing the ancient of days and the lamb! In his special waec centred wisdom, he thinks he has resolved this "contradiction" 😂!

All of them don't know how to take the bible in whole, like I have said before I repeat it again for the purpose of clarity!

Jesus' speech highlights the fact that men are tuned to seeing things in 3-D and thus it's practically impossible to see an infinite-Dimensioned God! Hence no man has seen God in his true form —Infinite-D. All we have seen are similitudes in 3-D contexts to pass across the message of Majesty and Power to the viewer!

Also he has a skewed perception of trinity! No man claims the Father is the Son, we claim they have the same Essence and Nature! — The nature that implicitly encapsulates the concept called God!

You ought to know that the phrase the fullness of God dwells in Christ (Colossians 2:9) is a metaphor that Paul uses, not Jesus.

It doesn’t imply that Jesus is God; instead, it suggests that Jesus embodies God’s wisdom, guidance, and authority [size=13pt]similar to other prophets.[/size]


No one has ever truly seen God in His complete divine form, as the Scriptures make it clear that no one can see God and survive (Exodus 33:20, John 1:18).

Prophets like Isaiah, Ezekiel, and Daniel experienced visions or symbolic representations of Godlike the Ancient of Days but they didn’t encounter His actual essence.

These appearances, known as theophanies, were limited and often veiled, taking forms like fire, cloud, or an angel.

Take note and understand theophany and it's use in the scripture.

Gabrielshow24:
Hi, People of academia, do you accept the bolded explanation given by boomark, the supposed slayers of l.ies!

Even in this response, he didn't reconcile Jesus' speech with other instances of the prophet of old seeing the Ancient of days! Even John that said so also declared in Revelation seeing the ancient of days and the lamb! In his special waec centred wisdom, he thinks he has resolved this "contradiction" 😂!

All of them don't know how to take the bible in whole, like I have said before I repeat it again for the purpose of clarity!

Jesus' speech highlights the fact that men are tuned to seeing things in 3-D and thus it's practically impossible to see an infinite-Dimensioned God! Hence no man has seen God in his true form —Infinite-D. All we have seen are similitudes in 3-D contexts to pass across the message of Majesty and Power to the viewer!

Also he has a skewed perception of trinity! No man claims the Father is the Son, we claim they have the same Essence and Nature! — The nature that implicitly encapsulates the concept called God!

No one has ever truly seen God in His complete divine form, as the Scriptures make it clear that no one can see God and survive (Exodus 33:20, John 1:18).

The phrase the fullness of God dwells in Christ (Colossians 2:9) is a metaphor that Paul uses, not Jesus. It doesn’t imply that Jesus is God; instead, it suggests that Jesus embodies God’s wisdom, guidance, and authority—similar to other prophets.

Prophets like Isaiah, Ezekiel, and Daniel experienced visions or symbolic representations of God like the Ancient of Days but they didn’t encounter His actual essence.

These appearances, known as theophanies, were limited and often veiled, taking forms like fire, cloud, or an angel.

Take note and understand theophany and it's use in the scripture.

Ohyoudidnt:
No one has ever truly seen God in His complete divine form, as the Scriptures make it clear that no one can see God and survive (Exodus 33:20, John 1:18).

Prophets like Isaiah, Ezekiel, and Daniel experienced visions or symbolic representations of Godlike the Ancient of Days but they didn’t encounter His actual essence.

These appearances, known as theophanies, were limited and often veiled, taking forms like fire, cloud, or an angel.

Take note and understand theophany and it's use in the scripture.

Thank you, If only you used such honesty when it's needed!

Also, I have exemplified that to boomark, that God's actual essence, Infinite-D as I like to call it, was not seen by them! Thus, Jesus was right when he said so even though prophets before him had seen 3-D depictions of God!

Ohyoudidnt:
You ought to know that the phrase the fullness of God dwells in Christ (Colossians 2:9) is a metaphor that Paul uses, not Jesus.

It doesn’t imply that Jesus is God; instead, it suggests that Jesus embodies God’s wisdom, guidance, and authority [size=13pt]similar to other prophets.[/size]


No one has ever truly seen God in His complete divine form, as the Scriptures make it clear that no one can see God and survive (Exodus 33:20, John 1:18).

Prophets like Isaiah, Ezekiel, and Daniel experienced visions or symbolic representations of Godlike the Ancient of Days but they didn’t encounter His actual essence.

These appearances, known as theophanies, were limited and often veiled, taking forms like fire, cloud, or an angel.

Take note and understand theophany and it's use in the scripture.

No need for redundancy, The symbolic phrase "fullness of God" is not assigned to other prophets 👀. We all know the end you hope to achieve with this sentiment—The inconspicuous introduction of Mohammed 🤨!

Also, when animals with horns are being called out, we do not expect snails to come forth!

Gabrielshow24:
Thank you, If only you used such honesty when it's needed!

Also, I have exemplified that to boomark, that God's actual essence, Infinite-D as I like to call it, was not seen by them! Thus, Jesus was right when he said so even though prophets before him had seen 3-D depictions of God!

Infinite D, 3-D, 5-D may not be necessary when you want to explain simply. Using these make you seem like another group that claim an odd awareness or frequency spiritism. The ones I know are atheists