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RodgersAkpafu:
Better to pin it as that
.Because yall have nothing sensible to say.

If I didn't know women who have been at the short end of the stick on matters pertaining to this, I wouldn't be too pissed about it

Kemi own as much as I like her, her own is getting too MUCH BUT THE POINT SHE RAISED IS VALID

Stop using words like y’all or una and stop posting anything that has to do with Nigeria. The real owners of the platform are saying you should not. Abide of get blocked 🚫 🤣

Goodenoch:
Okay.

✌️

Goke7:
Are you sure you watched the video? I’ve seen lots of opinions and I can deduce those who understood what she was saying in there and those who are trying to expand the scope of conversation to where she was not even referring to.

I did watch the video and I know EXACTLY what she was talking about, albeit somewhat misexplained

I could also make reference to what happens in India with their OCI cards with Indian women w foreign husbands but thats a related but separate discussion

UK IMMIGRATION CHANGES FROM TODAY.

Today is one of the most serious changes to UK immigration rules in recent years, with further crucial changes following on 29th July.

How is it going to affect some immigrants?

Immediate Impact from today the - 22nd July 2025.

Skilled Workers will be hit badly:

• Skilled Workers minimum qualification requirements moves to degree level (RQF Level 6 equivalent to a bachelor’s degree)

• 100 plus occupation codes scrapped - care workers, hospitality roles, logistics, health support staff and others no longer eligible

• Salary threshold raised from £38700 to £41,700.
• Social Care Worker route permanently closed to new applicants.
• Supplementary work severely restricted - degree-level roles only

You will need to have a degree to get many roles in the UK. It will be back to school for many.

Further Changes from 29 July 2025

• Private Life settlement expanded for "half-life test" candidates

• UK-born children face stricter continuous residence tests

• Crown Dependencies residence now counts towards UK qualifying periods

lavida001:
UK IMMIGRATION CHANGES FROM TODAY.

Today is one of the most serious changes to UK immigration rules in recent years, with further crucial changes following on 29th July.

How is it going to affect some immigrants?

Immediate Impact from today the - 22nd July 2025.

Skilled Workers will be hit badly:

• Skilled Workers minimum qualification requirements moves to degree level (RQF Level 6 equivalent to a bachelor’s degree)

• 100 plus occupation codes scrapped - care workers, hospitality roles, logistics, health support staff and others no longer eligible

• Salary threshold raised from £38700 to £41,700.
• Social Care Worker route permanently closed to new applicants.
• Supplementary work severely restricted - degree-level roles only

You will need to have a degree to get many roles in the UK. It will be back to school for many.

Further Changes from 29 July 2025

• Private Life settlement expanded for "half-life test" candidates

• UK-born children face stricter continuous residence tests

• Crown Dependencies residence now counts towards UK qualifying periods

Care Visa people will be alright

RodgersAkpafu:
Kemi is right
All these ones you people are saying is just bollocks

We saw on full display today how a senator was locked out despite a court order

Land use act dey yet people are losing their land at the whims of low self esteemed men

and you are talking rubbish about "section 25"

Go ask Nigerian women with foreign husbands in Nigeria what they go through before they get cerpac for their husbands, talk less of even path to citizenship for them
Stuff that the men don't even go through

Continue fooling yourselves in that shytehole

For CERPAC, you need to start early. 2 to 3mknths tk expiration. CERPAC doesn't take time. Let's state the fact we know. For the oath to citizenship, foreign husband cannot be a citizen through marriage. That is one of the reasons people are shouting for gender quality in nigeria. The law should not be different for women. Husband can only get citizenship through naturalisation.

dentalux:
For CERPAC, you need to start early. 2 to 3mknths tk expiration. CERPAC doesn't take time. Let's state the fact we know. For the oath to citizenship, foreign husband cannot be a citizen through marriage. That is one of the reasons people are shouting for gender quality in nigeria. The law should not be different for women. Husband can only get citizenship through naturalisation.

like I (probably) said here before
I know of women who have been at the short end of the stick on account of archaic laws of Nigerian immigration

On different related matters

That's why I will have to side Kemi on this one

Go on reddit amd see for yourself the complaints from quite a number of our women.

Anyways, that failed shytehole will always do what makes it a failed shytehole

RodgersAkpafu:
I did watch the video and I know EXACTLY what she was talking about, albeit somewhat misexplained

I could also make reference to what happens in India with their OCI cards with Indian women w foreign husbands but thats a related but separate discussion

She was talking about her kids not husband.

nerdymonk:
She was talking about her kids not husband.

Like I said before
I know that
And what she said is somewhat applicable as well, though it's an aspect of a broader discussion about how misogynist and useless our Nigerian immigration system/laws are

She is even more correct when you juxtapose naturalisation requirements for Britain vs Nigeria, India, Pakistan, etc

Its actually not that cumbersome, even though you will need to jump a couple of hoops

But Nigerians with blabbermouth will not accept
Instead of addressing the issues, they will rather try to do image laundering because we care more about looking good than being good

RodgersAkpafu:
Like I said before
I know that
And what she said is somewhat applicable as well, though it's an aspect of a broader discussion about how misogynist and useless our Nigerian immigration system/laws are

She is even more correct when you juxtapose naturalisation requirements for Britain vs Nigeria, India, Pakistan, etc

Its actually not that cumbersome, even though you will need to jump a couple of hoops

But Nigerians with blabbermouth will not accept
Instead of addressing the issues, they will rather try to do image laundering because we care more about looking good than being good

Perspectives eh... I'd just like to stick to what was said not the implied meaning.

Question is, can her kids get NG citizenship?

RodgersAkpafu:
Like I said before
I know that
And what she said is somewhat applicable as well, though it's an aspect of a broader discussion about how misogynist and useless our Nigerian immigration system/laws are

She is even more correct when you juxtapose naturalisation requirements for Britain vs Nigeria, India, Pakistan, etc

Its actually not that cumbersome, even though you will need to jump a couple of hoops

But Nigerians with blabbermouth will not accept
Instead of addressing the issues, they will rather try to do image laundering because we care more about looking good than being good

But she never mentioned that, and that's the same way many of us misinterpreted the US statement on single-entry visas for Americans by the Nigerian government, including the BBC.

And even for foreign spouses married to British, there is no direct naturalisation for them until they have lived in the UK for a while, so let's not make it look as if once a foreigner marries a British, they are becoming British citizens directly and that's why madam kemi knew what she was saying and didn't mention anything about her spouse. She was very clear on what she meant. She was trying to exploit her Nigerian heritage for politics as usual, knowing too well that she had probably rescinded her Nigerian citizenship before becoming a senior cabinet member when her party was in power ( not many Nigerians may be aware of that).

In light of the foregoing, citizenship can also be obtained if grandparents are Nigerians, and there are several cases like that, e.g., Ashley Plumptre, who plays for the Nigerian female national team and became a Nigerian citizen through her grandparents. Enough of the gas lighting, abeg, before Nigerians start becoming innocent victims of falsehood being peddled for political gains in the West.

Goke7:
But she never mentioned that, and that's the same way many of us misinterpreted the US statement on single-entry visas for Americans by the Nigerian government, including the BBC.

And even for foreign spouses married to British, there is no direct naturalisation for them until they have lived in the UK for a while, so let's not make it look as if once a foreigner marries a British, they are becoming British citizens directly and that's why madam kemi knew what she was saying and didn't mention anything about her spouse. She was very clear on what she meant. She was trying to exploit her Nigerian heritage for politics as usual, knowing too well that she had probably rescinded her Nigerian citizenship before becoming a senior cabinet member when her party was in power ( not many Nigerians may be aware of that).

In light of the foregoing, citizenship can also be obtained if grandparents are Nigerians, and there are several cases like that, e.g., Ashley Plumptre, who plays for the Nigerian female national team and became a Nigerian citizen through her grandparents. Enough of the gas lighting, abeg, before Nigerians start becoming innocent victims of falsehood being peddled for political gains in the West.

The falcons lady you mentioned got her citizenship through her paternal grandfather
Even you know this, and this. again, makes Kemi point very applicable

Now whether Kemi should have referenced that is a separate discussion (I'll say she shouldn't have)

But to claim that she is "lying" or don't know what she is saying is utterly bollocks.

For many of una, it's just fear that the British may reference this to make ILR even more harder than it already is, thats why many of them are running pillar to post to disparage Kemi lol

The overall naturalisation process is bollocks in Nigeria and her point about UK kpali being relatively easier than most others is very true

Even u ppl know, but "abeg, make dem no close door for us, we want to collect our own kpali"

Just saying

RodgersAkpafu:
The falcons lady you mentioned got her citizenship through her paternal grandfather
Even you know this, and this. again, makes Kemi point very applicable

Now whether Kemi should have referenced that is a separate discussion (I'll say she shouldn't have)

But to claim that she is "lying" or don't know what she is saying is utterly bollocks.

For many of una, it's just fear that the British may reference this to make ILR even more harder than it already is, thats why many of them are running pillar to post to disparage Kemi lol

The overall naturalisation process is bollocks in Nigeria and her point about UK kpali being relatively easier than most others is very true

Even u ppl know, but "abeg, make dem no close door for us, we want to collect our own kpali"

Just saying

She's lying because Nigeria was not the reason she gave up her citizenship; she's the one who wanted to serve the British society, so how is that Nigeria's fault? It's pure injustice for Nigeria's immigration laws to be misinterpreted, for Nigerians to be denied immigration privileges in the West.

RodgersAkpafu:
The falcons lady you mentioned got her citizenship through her paternal grandfather
Even you know this, and this. again, makes Kemi point very applicable

Now whether Kemi should have referenced that is a separate discussion (I'll say she shouldn't have)

But to claim that she is "lying" or don't know what she is saying is utterly bollocks.

For many of una, it's just fear that the British may reference this to make ILR even more harder than it already is, thats why many of them are running pillar to post to disparage Kemi lol

The overall naturalisation process is bollocks in Nigeria and her point about UK kpali being relatively easier than most others is very true

Even u ppl know, but "abeg, make dem no close door for us, we want to collect our own kpali"

Just saying

And for your further information, passing on citizenship has nothing to do with gender. Another footballer, Cyriel Dessers, who also plays for the Super Eagles, has a Belgian father and a Nigerian mother. The laws are clear!

Ministers are concerned there could be a renewed wave of migration and race-based disturbances, as the anniversary approaches of the murder of three children at a dance class in Southport that led to riots last summer, with many encouraged by false far-right claims about the attack.

Rayner told ministerial colleagues that “economic insecurity, the rapid pace of de-industrialisation, immigration and the impacts on local communities and public services, technological change and the amount of time people were spending alone online, and declining trust in institutions was having a profound impact on society”, according to a No 10 readout of the cabinet meeting on Tuesday morning.

Emphasising the role of deprivation and poverty, Rayner said 17 of the 18 places around England that had the worst trouble last summer were among the country’s most deprived areas.

“While Britain was a successful multi-ethnic, multi-faith country, the government had to show it had a plan to address people’s concerns and provide opportunities for everyone to flourish,” Rayner added.

Asked about the role of immigration, Keir Starmer’s official spokesperson said “high levels of immigration over the last 10 years, including illegal immigration” was among a series of factors, including the cost of living and the pace of technological change that “have had an impact on our social fabric and social cohesion”.

Goke7:
But she never mentioned that, and that's the same way many of us misinterpreted the US statement on single-entry visas for Americans by the Nigerian government, including the BBC.

And even for foreign spouses married to British, there is no direct naturalisation for them until they have lived in the UK for a while, so let's not make it look as if once a foreigner marries a British, they are becoming British citizens directly and that's why madam kemi knew what she was saying and didn't mention anything about her spouse. She was very clear on what she meant. She was trying to exploit her Nigerian heritage for politics as usual, knowing too well that she had probably rescinded her Nigerian citizenship before becoming a senior cabinet member when her party was in power ( not many Nigerians may be aware of that).

In light of the foregoing, citizenship can also be obtained if grandparents are Nigerians, and there are several cases like that, e.g., Ashley Plumptre, who plays for the Nigerian female national team and became a Nigerian citizen through her grandparents. Enough of the gas lighting, abeg, before Nigerians start becoming innocent victims of falsehood being peddled for political gains in the West.

Exactly. The bolded is what she what she was doing and it was very deliberate.

Is it not the same spousal route that they made substantially harder recently, for the spouses to even be able to come live in the UK at all before talking citizenship?

She, personally, proposed stricter measures beyond the increased salary on spousal visas, so that’s why she chose to lie about her children instead.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/33766077/migrant-salary-minimum-visa-kemi-tories/

Goke7:
But she never mentioned that, and that's the same way many of us misinterpreted the US statement on single-entry visas for Americans by the Nigerian government, including the BBC.

And even for foreign spouses married to British, there is no direct naturalisation for them until they have lived in the UK for a while, so let's not make it look as if once a foreigner marries a British, they are becoming British citizens directly and that's why madam kemi knew what she was saying and didn't mention anything about her spouse. She was very clear on what she meant. She was trying to exploit her Nigerian heritage for politics as usual, knowing too well that she had probably rescinded her Nigerian citizenship before becoming a senior cabinet member when her party was in power ( not many Nigerians may be aware of that).

In light of the foregoing, citizenship can also be obtained if grandparents are Nigerians, and there are several cases like that, e.g., Ashley Plumptre, who plays for the Nigerian female national team and became a Nigerian citizen through her grandparents. Enough of the gas lighting, abeg, before Nigerians start becoming innocent victims of falsehood being peddled for political gains in the West.

To the bolded, it used to be pretty much instant naturalisation on marriage to a British citizen , with little or no conditions attached, until this route started being abused, sham marriages, benefits, etc and the rules consequently got tightened.

RodgersAkpafu:
Care Visa people will be alright

You wan job shame me abi. Na God go judge you 🤣

Zahra29:
To the bolded, it used to be pretty much instant naturalisation on marriage to a British citizen , with little or no conditions attached, until this route started being abused, sham marriages, benefits, etc and the rules consequently got tightened.

Exactly I know of colleagues who married Nigerian citizens back home and it took ages for them to join their spouses here. This was even years ago so it’s nothing new. The same with the US who abolished a route for fiancées from Nigeria which was a quicker route too. Countries can tighten all they can but shouldn’t be based on misinterpreting or misinformation on other nations immigration laws.

Goodenoch:
Exactly. The bolded is what she what she was doing and it was very deliberate.

Is it not the same spousal route that they made substantially harder recently, for the spouses to even be able to come live in the UK at all before talking citizenship?

She, personally, proposed stricter measures beyond the increased salary on spousal visas, so that’s why she chose to lie about her children instead.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/33766077/migrant-salary-minimum-visa-kemi-tories/

That’s why I asked earlier if he watched the video cos so many reactions I have seen are just out of scope. God help us in this season of fake news and misinformation.

Goke7:
She's lying because Nigeria was not the reason she gave up her citizenship; she's the one who wanted to serve the British society, so how is that Nigeria's fault? It's pure injustice for Nigeria's immigration laws to be misinterpreted, for Nigerians to be denied immigration privileges in the West.

na this one be una own grouse na why una dey use microphone dey attack Kemi

Na only matter wey directly affect Nigerians na im dem dey "put mouth" lol

Goke7:
That’s why I asked earlier if he watched the video cos so many reactions I have seen are just out of scope. God help us in this season of fake news and misinformation.

again, I did watch the video

And for the umpteenth time, the point Kemi was trying to raise is incontrovertible

British kpali compared to other countries is very much straightforward
not easy
straightforward

This is what Kemi point is all about and even you know it is true

Canada, US and Britain (until this year) has a situation where you can become a citizen in less than 7 years

Not Nigeria, Not Pakistan, Not India and not most countries in the world

Britain is very much in its own right to extend and toughen the requirements (which i know they will do for sure, which is good) making reference to those ones



5 years vs 15 years
gender neutral vs misogyny

Council of State even have to approve the naturalisation

Anyways, all these ones we are talking here is immaterial
What is FOR SURE is that more draconian rules are coming, and Nigerians SHOULD BRACE for them

it's clear

I

lavida001:
You wan job shame me abi. Na God go judge you 🤣

lmaooo
dem go dey aii

RodgersAkpafu:
na this one be una own grouse na why una dey use microphone dey attack Kemi

Na only matter wey directly affect Nigerians na im dem dey "put mouth" lol

did she lie or not?

RodgersAkpafu:
again, I did watch the video

And for the umpteenth time, the point Kemi was trying to raise is incontrovertible

British kpali compared to other countries is very much straightforward
not easy
straightforward

5 years vs 15 years
gender neutral vs misogyny

Council of State even have to approve the naturalisation

Anyways, all these ones we are talking here is immaterial
What is FOR SURE is that more draconian rules are coming, and Nigerians SHOULD BRACE for them

it's clear

you have said nothing

Goke7:
you have said nothing

there is difference between easy and straightforward

easy = little effort

straightforward = no complications in the process, the path is clear and known to all and sundry

Now the naturalisation process for UK is straightforward, because there is a timeline and a framework

But it MAY not be easy for some because of residency and other requirements...

So yea I have said something
You just didn't catch it

Goke7:
did she lie or not?

she didn't
within the context of her situation
And the realities in Nigeria

My joy is as the months go by, more "gbas gbos" will be thrown in the way, and Nigerians will cry more and more lol

Zahra29:
Ministers are concerned there could be a renewed wave of migration and race-based disturbances, as the anniversary approaches of the murder of three children at a dance class in Southport that led to riots last summer, with many encouraged by false far-right claims about the attack.

Rayner told ministerial colleagues that “economic insecurity, the rapid pace of de-industrialisation, immigration and the impacts on local communities and public services, technological change and the amount of time people were spending alone online, and declining trust in institutions was having a profound impact on society”, according to a No 10 readout of the cabinet meeting on Tuesday morning.

Emphasising the role of deprivation and poverty, Rayner said 17 of the 18 places around England that had the worst trouble last summer were among the country’s most deprived areas.

“While Britain was a successful multi-ethnic, multi-faith country, the government had to show it had a plan to address people’s concerns and provide opportunities for everyone to flourish,” Rayner added.

Asked about the role of immigration, Keir Starmer’s official spokesperson said “high levels of immigration over the last 10 years, including illegal immigration” was among a series of factors, including the cost of living and the pace of technological change that “have had an impact on our social fabric and social cohesion”.

Again, the government knows what to do to revitalise the British economy
But are too scared to do it, because they don't wanna offend rich people

RodgersAkpafu:
she didn't
within the context of her situation
And the realities in Nigeria

My joy is as the months go by, more "gbas gbos" will be thrown in the way, and Nigerians will cry more and more lol

She did lie cos she claimed to be Nigerian, and can't pass it to her children cos she's a woman and citizenship eligibility has nothing to do with gender, just say you're not aware before now and it's fine, no trophy to be won here.

Goke7:
She did lie cos she claimed to be Nigerian, and can't pass it to her children cos she's a woman and citizenship eligibility has nothing to do with gender, just say you're not aware before now and it's fine, no trophy to be won here.

Joke is on you @Goke7 lol
Because like I have mentioned before

I am very passionate about this topic because I KNOW women who were burned in this web

There is no prize to be won, im just stating what I have seen and known

maybe in your spare time go to reddit and see for yourself what our Nigerian sisters are passing through with respect to this topic

That will be some education for you

I think we have both made our points (which to be honest is just banter with no effect because at d end of the day, Britain will do what Britain will do)

We can give it a rest now

Cheers 🍻

RodgersAkpafu:
there is difference between easy and straightforward

easy = little effort

straightforward = no complications in the process, the path is clear and known to all and sundry

Now the naturalisation process for UK is straightforward, because there is a timeline and a framework

But it MAY not be easy for some because of residency and other requirements...

So yea I have said something
You just didn't catch it

Same with Naija, residency, timeline, and other requirements, no complications, just eligibility as defined by laws. Also known to all and sundry who care to check and not listen to misinformation!

RodgersAkpafu:
Again, the government knows what to do to revitalise the British economy
But are too scared to do it, because they don't wanna offend rich people

You want to offend the wealth and job creators. No sensible government will do that.

They will take their jobs elsewhere and that’s it your jobs gone.