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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 5:45pm On Jul 31, 2025
afrodoc2:
The most important thing in the preseason is for the manager to get the 1st team players up to speed and unfortunately for Kone that midfield is already choked with players Amorim needs to give minutes to get them up to speed before Kone. Showing us his level is less important than showing the manager (and he gets to do that in training every day against the senior pros).

He will get his chance when they feel he is ready. The coaching staff are seeing him in training on a daily basis and most likely have an idea where he is at. Bruno, Mainoo, Collyer, Ugarte, Casemiro need those minutes more but i believe Kone will get some minutes in the next couple of games.
Is he also bring Fredericson, Mantato, Williams upto speed for the first team next season? Is Collyer even better than Kone? Two straight matches and Kone didn't get to play as a sub, Amorim should give him playing time make some of us see how good or bad he is..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:21pm On Jul 31, 2025
TrebleChamp:
Is he also bring Fredericson, Mantato, Williams upto speed for the first team next season? Is Collyer even better than Kone? Two straight matches and Kone didn't get to play as a sub, Amorim should give him playing time make some of us see how good or bad he is..
Like i said earlier preseason is not meant mainly to show fans who is good or bad. That is secondary. The main goal is to get players ready for the season and for the coaching staff to see who is ready amongst the other players.

Williams would not have had any minutes as well if Cunha, Zirkzee, or Mbeumo were fit. Kone on the other hand is battling Case, Mainoo, Bruno, Ugarte, Collyer for minutes. I have read that the coaching staff have given him extra training sessions away from the rest of the team to build up his strength first.

The coaches have assessed him and believe he needs some extra strength and conditioning before getting minutes. His time will come and should not be at the detriment of getting minutes for those the coach believes can help the team right now.

Showing you how good he is should be secondary in the grand scheme of things. It is the coaching staff that will determine when he is ready.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 7:13pm On Jul 31, 2025
Thoughts on Chido..

I think he should continue with the under 18's Nd not the first team..

He will just be chopping bench for the whole season
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 8:51pm On Jul 31, 2025
afrodoc2:
Like i said earlier preseason is not meant mainly to show fans who is good or bad. That is secondary. The main goal is to get players ready for the season and for the coaching staff to see who is ready amongst the other players.

Williams would not have had any minutes as well if Cunha, Zirkzee, or Mbeumo were fit. Kone on the other hand is battling Case, Mainoo, Bruno, Ugarte, Collyer for minutes. I have read that the coaching staff have given him extra training sessions away from the rest of the team to build up his strength first.

The coaches have assessed him and believe he needs some extra strength and conditioning before getting minutes. His time will come and should not be at the detriment of getting minutes for those the coach believes can help the team right now.

Showing you how good he is should be secondary in the grand scheme of things. It is the coaching staff that will determine when he is ready.
If he is being left out due to fitness concern, then that's fine. Me want to see him play and pre-season is a good avenue to give all players chance to stake their claim. I am sure a lot of fans also want to see him play
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 8:52pm On Jul 31, 2025
Mrviktor:
Thoughts on Chido..

I think he should continue with the under 18's Nd not the first team..

He will just be chopping bench for the whole season
if United sign Sesko or Watkins and Rasmus stays, Obi will join the under 21 next season...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2:
TrebleChamp:
If he is being left out due to fitness concern, then that's fine. Me want to see him play and pre-season is a good avenue to give all players chance to stake their claim. I am sure a lot of fans also want to see him play
Fans wanting to see him play is secondary to his development. That is the point. Insisting on seeing him play when he might not be ready to bang with adult players consistently seems selfish to me. This guy was a scrawny African kid just a year ago. Let the nutritionists and physical therapists build him up first.
He is not Diego Leone who looks like either a middleweight boxer or a mob enforcer. Kone has the potential but if the coaching staff who see him every day decide to be patient with him, we should respect that a bit.

P.S Staking your claim in preseason starts from training and the gym room that the coaches see every day. This is what they consider before giving people minutes. This is why some academy players make the initial preseason list on week 1 but do not make the final list for the tour.

That midfield is still very dicey and if from training and the gym Amorim and his people decide that he is not ready yet, then the most important thing is for Amorim to use these minutes to rotate his 4-5 options until he is sure which of them will start against Arsenal. I believe Kone will make his appearance this preseason, but it can't be to the detriment of the 1st team selection process.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 2:50am On Aug 01, 2025
TrebleChamp:
if United sign Sesko or Watkins and Rasmus stays, Obi will join the under 21 next season...
Send him on loan to that our sister club in Switzerland. I have said this before, as a striker he needs to reach at least 21/22 before he can come up to speed as a premier league player. He still have 3/4 years to catch up.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:12am On Aug 01, 2025
So, at the end Osimhen moved to Galatasaray for 65m pounds and is earning 250k per week and other big clubs felt they could not afford him.

There is something they are not telling us about this move.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:19am On Aug 01, 2025
afrodoc2:
Fans wanting to see him play is secondary to his development. That is the point. Insisting on seeing him play when he might not be ready to bang with adult players consistently seems selfish to me. This guy was a scrawny African kid just a year ago. Let the nutritionists and physical therapists build him up first.
He is not Diego Leone who looks like either a middleweight boxer or a mob enforcer. Kone has the potential but if the coaching staff who see him every day decide to be patient with him, we should respect that a bit.

P.S Staking your claim in preseason starts from training and the gym room that the coaches see every day. This is what they consider before giving people minutes. This is why some academy players make the initial preseason list on week 1 but do not make the final list for the tour.

That midfield is still very dicey and if from training and the gym Amorim and his people decide that he is not ready yet, then the most important thing is for Amorim to use these minutes to rotate his 4-5 options until he is sure which of them will start against Arsenal. I believe Kone will make his appearance this preseason, but it can't be at the detriment of the 1st team selection process.
Same thought as "let the coach come out and talk if they are not giving him players"
Like say him never tell them? cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 8:40am On Aug 01, 2025
afrodoc2:
Fans wanting to see him play is secondary to his development. That is the point. Insisting on seeing him play when he might not be ready to bang with adult players consistently seems selfish to me. This guy was a scrawny African kid just a year ago. Let the nutritionists and physical therapists build him up first.
He is not Diego Leone who looks like either a middleweight boxer or a mob enforcer. Kone has the potential but if the coaching staff who see him every day decide to be patient with him, we should respect that a bit.

P.S Staking your claim in preseason starts from training and the gym room that the coaches see every day. This is what they consider before giving people minutes. This is why some academy players make the initial preseason list on week 1 but do not make the final list for the tour.

That midfield is still very dicey and if from training and the gym Amorim and his people decide that he is not ready yet, then the most important thing is for Amorim to use these minutes to rotate his 4-5 options until he is sure which of them will start against Arsenal. I believe Kone will make his appearance this preseason, but it can't be at the detriment of the 1st team selection process.
......valid.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 9:31am On Aug 01, 2025
CapitalCee:
Send him on loan to that our sister club in Switzerland. I have said this before, as a striker he needs to reach at least 21/22 before he can come up to speed as a premier league player. He still have 3/4 years to catch up.
I support a loan move too, but to a team that would give him regular football and help him develop properly.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by iamoyindamola(m): 12:12pm On Aug 01, 2025
TrebleChamp:
if United sign Sesko or Watkins and Rasmus stays, Obi will join the under 21 next season...
Was this not the reason he left arsenal
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 12:19pm On Aug 01, 2025
What does Chelsea need garnacho for... That's just greed.

We should have forced him to go to Bayern...

Las Las Chelsea will price him 25+5 and foolish manutd will sell
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 12:20pm On Aug 01, 2025
iamoyindamola:
Was this not the reason he left arsenal
It's between him and zirkzee next season I believe.. and one would end up leaving... Survival of the fittest
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 12:22pm On Aug 01, 2025
Our squad is so thin..
Wth
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by typicalgamer(m): 12:46pm On Aug 01, 2025
Mrviktor:
It's between him and zirkzee next season I believe.. and one would end up leaving... Survival of the fittest
What is there to survive 😂

The bums we have can survive then who is OBi not to survive 🤣

More like survival of the most injury prone (staring at you Luke)
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 2:58pm On Aug 01, 2025
iamoyindamola:
Was this not the reason he left arsenal
He is already third choice behind Trashmus and Orobosa, buying Sesko or any other striker will further push him down the pecking order. He can be sent on loan instead of the under 21.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 3:55pm On Aug 01, 2025
Hope Amorim will not do to kone what ten hag did to Amad. Groom that guy well he will be better than Baleba.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 4:26pm On Aug 01, 2025
engrelvis:
Hope Amorim will not do to kone what ten hag did to Amad. Groom that guy well he will be better than Baleba.
Apparently Kone is not first team ready or good enough to play a preseason game so far. Small highlight i have seen of him show he is better than Collyer, but we may not get to see him play. Amorim knows best..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 5:32pm On Aug 01, 2025
TrebleChamp:
Apparently Kone is not first team ready or good enough to play a preseason game so far. Small highlight i have seen of him show he is better than Collyer, but we may not get to see him play. Amorim knows best..
Same thing was said about Amad. Sometimes coach dnt know best. l still remember when ole gave Rashford his first chance
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 5:36pm On Aug 01, 2025
engrelvis:
Same thing was said about Amad. Sometimes coach dnt know best. l still remember when ole gave Rashford his first chance
LvG, not Ole gave Rashford his first chance.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 7:10pm On Aug 01, 2025
engrelvis:
Same thing was said about Amad. Sometimes coach dnt know best. l still remember when ole gave Rashford his first chance
Amorim is using the preseason to build his first and second 11, no room to experiment with Kone.
LvG gave Rashford is first start...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 7:28pm On Aug 01, 2025
typicalgamer:
What is there to survive 😂

The bums we have can survive then who is OBi not to survive 🤣

More like survival of the most injury prone (staring at you Luke)
For us to sell garnacho and rashford I think times have changed..
Mount is probably next if he can't stay fit
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 7:51pm On Aug 01, 2025
TrebleChamp:
Apparently Kone is not first team ready or good enough to play a preseason game so far. Small highlight i have seen of him show he is better than Collyer, but we may not get to see him play. Amorim knows best..
Have you seen the clips and highlights of Shea Lacey?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 7:51pm On Aug 01, 2025
This jersey needs to cone back mehn

And that pink one

Den that blue and yellow as well.

My top 3 retro colours

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 8:09pm On Aug 01, 2025
TrebleChamp:
Amorim is using the preseason to build his first and second 11, no room to experiment with Kone.
LvG gave Rashford is first start...
Thanks for the correction.l still think kone is a strong contender for both.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 8:11pm On Aug 01, 2025
Mrviktor:
For us to sell garnacho and rashford I think times have changed..
Mount is probably next if he can't stay fit
Exactly. We are in no nonsense mood now.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by typicalgamer(m): 8:19pm On Aug 01, 2025
Mrviktor:
For us to sell garnacho and rashford I think times have changed..
Mount is probably next if he can't stay fit
We haven't sold either yet
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 8:59pm On Aug 01, 2025
Leyqute:
Have you seen the clips and highlights of Shea Lacey?
Nope, is he on preseason tour too?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 9:01pm On Aug 01, 2025
engrelvis:
Thanks for the correction.l still think kone is a strong contender for both.
Me too, but Amorim knows best...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 9:03pm On Aug 01, 2025
TrebleChamp:
Me too, but Amorim knows best...
From small highlights abi? Lol
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 9:12pm On Aug 01, 2025
afrodoc:
From small highlights abi? Lol
Reason i want him to play in preseason so i can have a proper look, but i guess what i want is not relevant. I use the small highlights to console myself..
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