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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 12:15am On Aug 04, 2025
Trevor012:
If you like buy Vitinha and Rodri, this Amorim and his midfield 2 will suffer for 1000years. Play 4-3-3 that's tailor made for the team he has refused. No problem
Are you sure? grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 12:17am On Aug 04, 2025
eph12:
I'm wondering what Amorim is taking away from this game. If it doesn't remind him about how poor our midfield can be in and out of possession, I don't know what else will
everybody sees the same thing.
it could be an issue of fixing one department per summer as per PSR, and attack is rightly identified as the emergency area.
I will not too bothered though if we can only add a competent goal keeper to the attacking recruitments this summer.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:22am On Aug 04, 2025
ChristineC:
everybody sees the same thing.
it could be an issue of fixing one department per summer as per PSR, and attack is rightly identified as the emergency area.
I will not too bothered though if we can only add a competent goal keeper to the attacking recruitments this summer.
We should be able to get top 6 with our current squad unless a couple of key players get injured
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 12:28am On Aug 04, 2025
eph12:
We should be able to get top 6 with our current squad unless a couple of key players get injured
I think so.
I believe Amorim's aim at this stage is to outscore as many teams as possible so he still wants that striker.

I expect that we'd concede our fair share. fingers crossed.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:45am On Aug 04, 2025
ChristineC:
I think so.
I believe Amorim's aim at this stage is to outscore as many teams as possible so he still wants that striker.

I expect that we'd concede our fair share. fingers crossed.
My fear is that we will concede a couple goals we shouldn't. But we can't solve all our problems once so I'll say we have done okay. I didn't even expect this much considering we're struggling to generate revenue via player sales
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 1:29am On Aug 04, 2025
We need a midfielder badly. Its actually an emergency.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 5:55am On Aug 04, 2025
Make Chelsea bring money come for Garnacho

They shouldn't allow any loan deal for Antony, if Betis is not bringing the money for a permanent deal, they should tell Antony to look elsewhere.

Can't we entice those Saudi clubs with Case?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Fkhalifa(m): 8:08am On Aug 04, 2025
Trevor012:
If you like buy Vitinha and Rodri, this Amorim and his midfield 2 will suffer for 1000years. Play 4-3-3 that's tailor made for the team he has refused. No problem
You 💯 right.. this 343 would only get Amorim sacked before December.... Playing your most productive attacker Amad at RWB is a big No, see how the right side was struggling to bring the ball forward....
All that is needed is a Central Midfield general who would pair Bruno and Ugarte...then play Cunha, Zirkzee and Mbuemo/ Amad as front 3...

Zirkzee would drop deep and allow Cunha and Mbuemo/ Amad/ Bruno into goal scoring position. Even Hojlund may improve in this setting.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Goosethetruth(m): 8:50am On Aug 04, 2025
It is still only pre season,but since Ruben Amorim has stubbornly insisted he will only play one way without an alternative plan B,C or D . Then it is better to allow him disembowel himself in the valley of 3-4-3.
We will be here to help him sing Nunc dimittis.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 9:24am On Aug 04, 2025
MRTA7:
We need a midfielder badly. Its actually an emergency.
I have been saying this for weeks. E get why i dey mention Baleba. That is why Amorim is not doing any experimenting or giving academy youth prospects exhibition minutes in midfield. All is doing is trying to get test the possible combinations to decide which 2 will work for him when the season starts.

At this stage i think Ugarte and Mainoo at CM is the way, and it is not good enough. Bruno can play up front with Mbeumo and Cunha. Zirkzee, Mount, Amad (when he is not at RWB), and Rasmus can help out.

The single move that can transform our season is a quality CM not a quality CF. Both are welcome but the CM is more critical.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Trevor012(m): 9:31am On Aug 04, 2025
Fkhalifa:
You 💯 right.. this 343 would only get Amorim sacked before December.... Playing your most productive attacker Amad at RWB is a big No, see how the right side was struggling to bring the ball forward....
All that is needed is a Central Midfield general who would pair Bruno and Ugarte...then play Cunha, Zirkzee and Mbuemo/ Amad as front 3...

Zirkzee would drop deep and allow Cunha and Mbuemo/ Amad/ Bruno into goal scoring position. Even Hojlund may improve in this setting.
Give any competent manager that plays 4-3-3 this team and see him fight for the league. Amorim is too stubborn, he thinks this is the Portuguese league. Sit-down look mode activated.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 9:40am On Aug 04, 2025
Fkhalifa:
You 💯 right.. this 343 would only get Amorim sacked before December.... Playing your most productive attacker Amad at RWB is a big No, see how the right side was struggling to bring the ball forward....
All that is needed is a Central Midfield general who would pair Bruno and Ugarte...then play Cunha, Zirkzee and Mbuemo/ Amad as front 3...

Zirkzee would drop deep and allow Cunha and Mbuemo/ Amad/ Bruno into goal scoring position. Even Hojlund may improve in this setting.
Go and advice Arteta on how to win a trophy first.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 10:00am On Aug 04, 2025
We definitely need a defensive midfielder but I don't think Ugarte is that bad . ls Amorim formation that putting some of these players in bad light.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Trevor012(m): 10:02am On Aug 04, 2025
engrelvis:
We definitely need a defensive midfielder but I don't think Ugarte is that bad . lts Amorim formation that putting some of these players in bad light .
Some people are blind.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by diggz: 10:12am On Aug 04, 2025
larride:
Go and advice Arteta on how to win a trophy first.
😂😂😂
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by diggz: 10:13am On Aug 04, 2025
Trevor012:
Some people are blind.
Your wailings dey sweet to watch lol
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 10:39am On Aug 04, 2025
Trevor012:
Some people are blind.
Alot of them were struggling to play "almighty Amorim system" yesterday. This is a quality team that suppose make top 4 .Amorim need to understand his players n know what role fit. Most times they play out of position. Amad is a born attacker. Trying to change that will reduce his output. Defensive midfielders shud do their work so Bruno dnt mark much This will allow him that freedom in dictating that midfield
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 10:39am On Aug 04, 2025
engrelvis:
We definitely need a defensive midfielder but I don't think Ugarte is that bad . ls Amorim formation that putting some of these players in bad light.
What formation was ETH using? And in what light did it put the same players?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 10:45am On Aug 04, 2025
afrodoc2:
What formation was ETH using? And in what light did it put the same players?
Ugarte in particular hasnt looked great either under ETH, Amorim and obviously not at PSG. I just dont see the formation that will turn him into the powerhouse we need him to be.

He's tenacious but he lacks that robust physicality that Caicedo or Declan Rice have. He also doesnt progress the ball well either via passing or carrying. To me we've spent 60m on a 30m player.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 10:46am On Aug 04, 2025
ln civil engineering there are sometimes u overdesign a structure leading to waste of materials n energy whereas a simple design can solve same problem. Amorim is "overdesigning" this team in a stupid egoistic attempt to prove a point.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 10:58am On Aug 04, 2025
MRTA7:
Ugarte in particular hasnt looked great either under ETH, Amorim and obviously not at PSG. I just dont see the formation that will turn him into the powerhouse we need him to be.

He's tenacious but he lacks that robust physicality that Caicedo or Declan Rice have. He also doesnt progress the ball well either via passing or carrying. To me we've spent 60m on a 30m player.
Ugarte's shortcomings are not a surprise to me cos i predicted them. The hope now is that Amorim is good enough as a coacch to improve the players he met and that he and the management can add quality players.

Even 10% improvement across board will do wonders. We don't need any single player to suddenly improve by 50-100%.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:58am On Aug 04, 2025
MRTA7:
Ugarte in particular hasnt looked great either under ETH, Amorim and obviously not at PSG. I just dont see the formation that will turn him into the powerhouse we need him to be.

He's tenacious but he lacks that robust physicality that Caicedo or Declan Rice have. He also doesnt progress the ball well either via passing or carrying. To me we've spent 60m on a 30m player.
Ugarte’s biggest disability is his intelligence on the ball.
I don’t know what happened to him yesterday but he was all over the place in the second half.

When it comes to getting the ball from defenders and progressing it up the pitch, he falls flat on his face. His first touch is suspect and he doesn’t possess those tangible qualities like a half-turn, shoulder drop, etc, to beat his man, evade the press and get the ball forward. His passes are suspect as well.

I don’t know if it’s the pressure or what, he’s just very poor in those areas. Almost gave a goal away yesterday because of this.

That’s why we need a Baleba-mould signing pronto.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 11:05am On Aug 04, 2025
afrodoc2:
What formation was ETH using? And in what light did it put the same players?
Yr point sir? ETH is gone n shudnt be use as benchmark for Amorim tatics/ perfomance He was sacked for a reason.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Englishisamust: 11:06am On Aug 04, 2025
Same 433 that turn our midfield to doughnut. No be waiting dem used sacked ten hag, ole gundown social!!! grin grin. He be like say people dey easily forget things.. unaa don forget how will chop waiting no good for body.. grin grin. If we like make we used 433 or 442. Quality of players will always show the gap. Urgatee and mainoo are not a good ball carrier. Mainoo is still trying but he is very slow and always hard for him manauver is way out of tight spaces...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 11:11am On Aug 04, 2025
Leyqute:
Ugarte’s biggest disability is his intelligence on the ball.
I don’t know what happened to him yesterday but he was all over the place in the second half.

When it comes to getting the ball from defenders and progressing it up the pitch, he falls flat on his face. His first touch is suspect and he doesn’t possess those tangible qualities like a half-turn, shoulder drop, etc, to beat his man, evade the press and get the ball forward. His passes are suspect as well.

I don’t know if it’s the pressure or what, he’s just very poor in those areas. Almost gave a goal away yesterday because of this.

That’s why we need a Baleba-mould signing pronto.
Dnt be surprise lf Baleb finally comes he will also enter into default mode under this Amorim system. lnfact can u tell me one man utd player excelling well under his formation?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 11:14am On Aug 04, 2025
Canciedo everybody is praising now was he that good when he came to Chelsea?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa:
engrelvis:
Alot of them were struggling to play "almighty Amorim system" yesterday. This is a quality team that suppose make top 4 .Amorim need to understand his players n know what role fit. Most times they play out of position. Amad is a born attacker. Trying to change that will reduce his output. Defensive midfielders shud do their work so Bruno dnt mark much This will allow him that freedom in dictating that midfield
Acommodating Bruno and Amad to optimal effect in this setup still seems like a potential issue that would become chronic as the season progresses...

I trust the English press are waiting with one lengthy Article on this if the team struggles with results

Lets see how it pans out
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 11:20am On Aug 04, 2025
afrodoc2:
Ugarte's shortcomings are not a surprise to me cos i predicted them. The hope now is that Amorim is good enough as a coacch to improve the players he met and that he and the management can add quality players.

Even 10% improvement across board will do wonders. We don't need any single player to suddenly improve by 50-100%.
"The hope now is that Amorim is good enough as a coach to improve the players he met".. These r yr words. lt summarizes all I v been saying.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 11:22am On Aug 04, 2025
We win EPL una no celebrate. Na argument una dey argue. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Goosethetruth(m): 11:24am On Aug 04, 2025
George Orwell stated that: "To see what is in front of ones nose needs a constant struggle. "

While every fan wants the best for Manchester United,our personal biases prevents us from seeing what is before our very own eyes.
United played this tournament with fellow mid table teams like West Ham,Bournemouth and Everton and critically watching this team it is obvious that all is not well with the players in the system. Even the games that United won were struggles and it is very obvious that in the first 5-6 games when the Premier league begins this United team is going to struggle.
I am not trying to be a messenger of doom but fans need to be realistic and admit this system is like a strait jacket on most of these players. A coach who stubbornly insists he has only one way of playing football without a different plan will always be exposed brutally in this Premier league.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 11:41am On Aug 04, 2025
Goosethetruth:
George Orwell stated that: "To see what is in front of ones nose needs a constant struggle. "

While every fan wants the best for Manchester United,our personal biases prevents us from seeing what is before our very own eyes.
United played this tournament with fellow mid table teams like West Ham,Bournemouth and Everton and critically watching this team it is obvious that all is not well with the players in the system. Even the games that United won were struggles and it is very obvious that in the first 5-6 games when the Premier league begins this United team is going to struggle.
I am not trying to be a messenger of doom but fans need to be realistic and admit this system is like a strait jacket on most of these players. A coach who stubbornly insists he has only one way of playing football without a different plan will always be exposed brutally in this Premier league.
No leave him.. he thinks here is Portuguese league.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:55am On Aug 04, 2025
I understand that our midfield obviously needs improvement but like Amorim noted, if the defenders were not caught walking instead of sprinting towards the edge of the box, that first goal doesn't happen.

We need the whole team to be in sync. When attacking, the midfield should be able to push higher up the pitch, joined by the defence, else our press will easily be bypassed by the opponent. I saw several instances yesterday when the attackers were pressing, but only the wingers pushed higher up the other side pitch to join the press while the midfielders and defenders didn't bother to burst a sweat.
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