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Jamiuokolaa:
And buy sesko for that amount?

Look at it from this angle - he is costing more than Mbuemo and Cuhna who had better numbers despite playing as wingers. They also have PL experience.

We can sell Hojlund and offset the Sesko fee. It's a only a mad man that keeps trying what is not working and it's clear after 2 seasons that Hojlund isn't working and won't work.

Ellexy:
We can sell Hojlund and offset some the Sesko fee. It's a only a mad man that keeps trying what is not working and it's clear after 2 seasons that Hojlund isn't working and won't work.

Selling Hojlund would never make that Sesko fee to be reasonable...

It's a bloody waste of money and an obvious sign that the club doesn't learn from past mistakes.

Jamiuokolaa:
Selling Hojlund would never make that Sesko fee to be reasonable...

It's a bloody waste of money and an obvious sign that the club doesn't learn from past mistakes.

It's the current reality of the market, it is what it is. An average player nowadays is going around 50 mil.

Ellexy:
It's the current reality of the market, it is what it is. An average player nowadays is going around 50 mil.

While we are paying more for sesko than other clubs paid for Osihmen and Gyokeres in the same TW..

Issokay

Jamiuokolaa:
And buy sesko for that amount?

Look at it from this angle - he is costing more than Mbuemo and Cuhna who had better numbers despite playing as wingers. They also have PL experience.

At first, you said it was a disgrace that Sesko was considering whether to join us or Newcastle and not about the amount but now he has opted to sign for us, you have started talking about the amount we spent.

What exactly is your problem? Are you pained that the club is strengthening key positions?

What other alternative will you have us sign since you think Sesko is too expensive, Jackson?

Well, I expect you to complain when Baleba is signed.

patrickmuf:
At first, you said it was a disgrace that Sesko was considering whether to join us or Newcastle and not about the amount but now he has opted to sign for us, you have started talking about the amount we spent.

What exactly is your problem? Are you pained that the club is strengthening key positions?

What other alternative will you have us sign since you think Sesko is too expensive, Jackson?

Well, I expect you to complain when Baleba is signed.

He go soon dig your post.

afrodoc2:
If we add Sesko and Baleba Top 4 is achievable but we still might not get it as long as we have clowns in goal.

INEOS should do one last good thing after these Sesko and Baleba deals by signing a decent GK.

Right now, i am thinking we could come 5th. The teams that finished in the Top 4 last season are also buying players to improve their squad. We can make Top 4 if everything clicks but i will wait to see how things develop over the next few months first.

Anything lower than 5th would be a major disappointment.

Hujmland( sporting) n Balena Who will u prefer we sign? Baleba is premier league proven but Hujmland has worked with Amorim b4 so can easily integrate him.

Ellexy:
It's the current reality of the market, it is what it is. An average player nowadays is going around 50 mil.

l think we should stop worrying ourselves with respect to money spent.life is a gamble. Also( like you said) players dnt come cheap again

Jamiuokolaa:
While we are paying more for sesko than other clubs paid for Osihmen and Gyokeres in the same TW..

Issokay

Age is also a factor you know.

patrickmuf:
At first, you said it was a disgrace that Sesko was considering whether to join us or Newcastle and not about the amount but now he has opted to sign for us, you have started talking about the amount we spent.

An overpriced player with less than impressive stats ...holding the club to ransome, was the crux of the matter. I didnt know that our decision to forge ahead has changed anything here

patrickmuf:
What exactly is your problem? Are you pained that the club is strengthening key positions?

We have been down this rabbit hole on numerous occasions recently...

Splashing huge amounts on players that are obviously not worth their weights in Gold only for people like you to still come back here to lament and wail 3 months into the season..

If you don't learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it, fail miserably and fall flat on your face in a disgraceful manner!

That's the point here!

Some of us are just more interested in logical investments with minimal risks.

patrickmuf:
What other alternative will you have us sign since you think Sesko is too expensive, Jackson?

•Vlahovic was offered to us for 30m - even with his suspect fitness issues, fella still has better numbers.

•Moise kean with Better numbers last season has a release clause of around half the bid we submitted for Sesko.

Like I said earlier, the fact that sesko would cost more than Osihmen and Gyokeres , is a big NO!

patrickmuf:
Well, I expect you to complain when Baleba is signed.

If he is signed at a ridiculous price, I would point it out as usual.

Not everyone has that mentality of the Biblical prodigal son that was known to be wasteful!

patrickmuf:
Dier is overhyped even for 25m pounds, Ignacio Camacho, a far more grounded footballer left Malaga for Wolfsburg for 10m so who the fvck is Dier to command a 50m price tag
I go with Sinizia, we can get Fabinho and Matuidi for almost the same price...

So who the fúck is Sesko to command an 85m price tag

patrickmuf:
The problem is deep, we over pay for players especially players who aren't world beaters...

Yet we should continue to go deeper into our problems by paying 85-90m for Sesko the "Worldbeater"!

You are a closet rival fan disguising as a UTD faithful

Ellexy:
Age is also a factor you know.

Sure..same way it balances out with talent and sheer numbers aka Emprical evidence.

engrelvis:
Hujmland( sporting) n Balena Who will u prefer we sign? Baleba is premier league proven but Hujmland has worked with Amorim b4 so can easily integrate him.

I have only seen clips of Hjulmand but from what I have seen Baleba is by far the better prospect.

Antony had also played in ETH’s system before. All that means nothing when you come across EPL level athletes and not the Mickey Mouse players that abound in Portuguese and Dutch leagues.

Jamiuokolaa:
Rich PL clubs are on a mission to Fund Brighton's existence...

After they sold Caicedo for 100m, they paid 30m for Baleba as his replacement. Now they are looking to sell him for Megabucks after 2 seasons.

If Man utd never pay that mugu money, our body no fit calm down. It's in our DNA

I still feel its better than this Sesko deal sha - we are literally paying more for Sesko compared to what Reputable Goalscorers like Osihmen and Gyokores cost.

There's nothing wrong with the Sesko deal to me. It's a better deal than Cunha for £65million and the potential £90million for someone like Baleba. Osimhen and Gyokeres are both 27 which impacted their fees and even at that they went for €70m plus each. Osihmen is not a reputable goalscorer as well.

Jamiuokolaa:
Sure..same way it balances out with talent and sheer numbers aka Emprical evidence.

Below is empirical evidence. Goals scored before the age of 22;

- Gyökeres: 28
- Isak: 66
- João Pedro: 34
- Solanke: 12
- Ekitiké: 27
- Šeško: 100

Ellexy:
Below is empirical evidence. Goals scored before the age of 22;

- Gyökeres: 28
- Isak: 66
- João Pedro: 34
- Solanke: 12
- Ekitiké: 27
- Šeško: 100

Austrian league?

You even added his goals in the Austrian 2nd division

I am getting more scared at how poor he might be

Jamiuokolaa:
Austrian league?

You even added his goals in the Austrian 2nd division

I am getting more scared at how poor he might be

There's a reason he has risen through the ranks from a young lad in the Austrian league to being a sort after striker by big clubs. He's a high risk high reward player, if he fails, we move on, it's not the end of world but I pray he succeeds.

Baleba earns 12.5k a week at Brighton. Reports are saying they're offering him a new contract to stave off United interest.

afrodoc:
I have only seen clips of Hjulmand but from what I have seen Baleba is by far the better prospect.

Antony had also played in ETH’s system before. All that means nothing when you come across EPL level athletes and not the Mickey Mouse players that abound in Portuguese and Dutch leagues.

"Mickey Mouse players"..are u mocking Gyokeres?

engrelvis:
Hujmland( sporting) n Balena Who will u prefer we sign? Baleba is premier league proven but Hujmland has worked with Amorim b4 so can easily integrate him.

They are so many better options than those two. Baleba for example is not a passer or a controlling midfielder. He's another Ugarte type of midfielder(ball winner). His progressive passes and carries are average . We should be looking at deep lying playmaker in the mould of casado, Stiller etc

Garnacho to Chelsea go too pain me. It won't be well with Amorim. Even Maino self currently has no place in his 3-4-3 and might leave.

engrelvis:
"Mickey Mouse players"..are u mocking Gyokeres?

Lol no. I am talking about the players in the non Top 3 clubs in those leagues.

Those are the players Hjulmand and Antony are/were shining against. When Antony faced superior athletes he could not get any separation.

Ugarte is used to Amorim’s system but he is still struggling. The quality and talent of the player should trump any system experience.

Jamiuokolaa:
An overpriced player with less than impressive stats ...holding the club to ransome, was the crux of the matter. I didnt know that our decision to forge ahead has changed anything here



We have been down this rabbit hole on numerous occasions recently...

Splashing huge amounts on players that are obviously not worth their weights in Gold only for people like you to still come back here to lament and wail 3 months into the season..

If you don't learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it, fail miserably and fall flat on your face in a disgraceful manner!

That's the point here!

Some of us are just more interested in logical investments with minimal risks.



•Vlahovic was offered to us for 30m - even with his suspect fitness issues, fella still has better numbers.

•Moise kean with Better numbers last season has a release clause of around half the bid we submitted for Sesko.

Like I said earlier, the fact that sesko would cost more than Osihmen and Gyokeres , is a big NO!



If he is signed at a ridiculous price, I would point it out as usual.

Not everyone has that mentality of the Biblical prodigal son that was known to be wasteful!



So who the fúck is Sesko to command an 85m price tag



Yet we should continue to go deeper into our problems by paying 85-90m for Sesko the "Worldbeater"!

You are a closet rival fan

Vlahovic, Kean...Is this what you want for the club? Sign Vlahovic and next season or two, we are back to looking for another CF, brilliant idea...

Sesko is our best bet at the moment. You don't expect Leipzig to go lower when Newcastle offered €90m Elsewhere, Etikite joined Liverpool for €90m, and he has similar stats to Sesko, so we can draw a line there that it's a little high. Still, it is what is obtainable at the moment.

I even mentioned here that I'd have preferred it if we used the money to sign a midfielder or two, but now that we are close to signing him, it is pointless going on about how we should have signed a midfielder instead.

You tried to start an agenda that Sesko is considering his options when Newcastle was at the other end of the bargain as if Newcastle themselves have nothing to offer...When you saw that the agenda didn't see the light of day when it was reported that he preferred United, you hopped on his transfer fee...

You mentioned the fees quoted for Osimhen and Gyokeres...Was the club supposed to force Gyokeres to join us? Didn't we try but he rebuffed our approach? I don't even want to get started on Osimhen, we have seen Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and even Newcastle look the other way when Osimhen was in the market, does it not tell you there's probably something off about him?

odizeey:
He go soon dig your post.

True to self, he did...Guess what, he brought out a post where I criticised the amount quoted for Dier...Lol...

What was Etikite stats again in the same Buli? How much did Liverpool pay?

When it comes to United, even a player's religion is questioned no thanks to fans like him...

afrodoc2:
Eikitike cost Liverpool even more (80m Euros plus 10m Euros more in potential add-ons). That is where this transfer window went haywire.

Ekitike and Sesko are from the same league with similar stats and similar age. That is what set the standard for Sesko's fee.

🥚zactly....

patrickmuf:
Vlahovic, Kean...Is this what you want for the club? Sign Vlahovic and next season or two, we are back to looking for another CF, brilliant idea...

And what is special about Sesko's average numbers that make you feel we wouldnt be looking for another CF next season or 2, while hawking him around for 10m?

patrickmuf:
Sesko is our best bet at the moment. You don't expect Leipzig to go lower when Newcastle offered €90m Elsewhere,

By your logic, if Newcastle had offered 150m, we should have still gone ahead with our pursuit...

patrickmuf:
I even mentioned here that I'd have preferred it if we used the money to sign a midfielder or two, but now that we are close to signing him, it is pointless going on about how we should have signed a midfielder instead.

Its not pointless if there are indications that thunder is about to strike twice...

Till date, we are struggling to even get 35m for Antony we bought for Megabucks. Ditto Hojlund. The common denominator here is the unanimous perception that these players were overpriced even before they joined.

If it seems like we are about to make the same mistake again within the space of 26 months and you are not worried, i don't know what else to say to you.

patrickmuf:
You tried to start an agenda that Sesko is considering his options when Newcastle was at the other end of the bargain as if Newcastle themselves have nothing to offer...When you saw that the agenda didn't see the light of day when it was reported that he preferred United, you hopped on his transfer fee...

You can term it anything you deem fit but my point still stands - it is embarrassing that we were kept on a waiting list by an overpriced Leipzig player with inferior stats to Jørgen Strand Larsen of Wolves last season. Our contenders on the waiting list - almighty Newcastle!

patrickmuf:
You mentioned the fees quoted for Osimhen and Gyokeres...Was the club supposed to force Gyokeres to join us? Didn't we try but he rebuffed our approach? I don't even want to get started on Osimhen, we have seen Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and even Newcastle look the other way when Osimhen was in the market, does it not tell you there's probably something off about him?

For the umpteenth time, the fees should be a guide on what not to pay for who - that's the point!

Paying 85 -90m for a Hojlund 1.1 when Osihmen and Gyokeres at the peak of their careers cost less in the same transfer window further exemplifies my fears that we are not learning from our past mistakes.

Sad!!

patrickmuf:
The problem is deep, we over pay for players especially players who aren't world beaters...

And you want us to remain neck deep in this problem??

Too bad!

patrickmuf:
True to self, he did...Guess what, he brought out a post where I criticised the amount quoted for Dier...Lol...

What was Etikite stats again in the same Buli? How much did Liverpool pay?

When it comes to United, even a player's religion is questioned no thanks to fans like him...

See ehn. Let them just sign good players. I just hope Amorim knows what he's doing.

patrickmuf:
At first, you said it was a disgrace that Sesko was considering whether to join us or Newcastle and not about the amount but now he has opted to sign for us, you have started talking about the amount we spent.

What exactly is your problem? Are you pained that the club is strengthening key positions?

What other alternative will you have us sign since you think Sesko is too expensive, Jackson?

Well, I expect you to complain when Baleba is signed.

patrickmuf:
True to self, he did...Guess what, he brought out a post where I criticised the amount quoted for Dier...Lol...

In addition to the critique of the amount quoted for Dier, you also reminded us of a deep problem the club has been battling with:

patrickmuf:
The problem is deep, we over pay for players especially players who aren't world beaters

But when concerns are being raised about a potentially dodgy Transfer, it is suddenly seen as agenda.

Get thee behind me, you Liverpool fan

Deal struck.

Jamiuokolaa:
I understand Juve offered Vlahovic to us for as low as 30m. Maybe aside his suspect fitness issues, his numbers are even better than Sesko's...

That Sesko fee is enough to buy a decent CF + CM.... 90m sesko isn't better than the Liam Delap Chelsea paid 30m for IMO. 60m should get us a decent CM.

Nawa

You have a point because baleba isn't better than Casado and he is available for £26m.

Bombblacks:
Why is this club hellbent on wasting funds. They are better options than Baleba you can get for half of the price. You have casado available for £30 to 50M, Hugo Larsson from Frankfurt,Stiller, Rovella etc. You could get two good midfielders for that outrageous price.

Barcelona is demanding £26m for Marc Casado while Stiller is €40m(£33m).

Good players all around