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| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by willyede(m): 4:33pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
Goke7:Rishi Sunak was the head boy at Winchester. He's more comfortable in his skin, because he's interacted with the upper class who dominate the Tory Party all his life. In contrast, if you grew up in Lagos and attended FGGC Shagamu and ISIL, you'd never quite feel you "belong". |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 6:27pm On Aug 07, 2025*. Modified: 6:43pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
willyede:Your words, not hers, though as she said that she feels more at home with her extended Tory family than in Nigeria. Besides the Tory upper class voted for Kemi but rejected Rishi, opting instead for Truss "the lettuce" whom most people knew was far less talented. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 6:36pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
RodgersAkpafu:Lol Ben Habib is the worst by far, even Reform thought he was too right wing lol Both Suella and Patel almost derailed the India Trade deal because they opposed significant aspects mainly the proposed more generous immigration pathways and lower costs for Indian nationals. In contrast Kemi signed a landmark £7bn trade deal with Nigeria when she was Business Secretary...so emotions aside, one could argue that despite her jabs, she's perhaps shown the most support to her country of heritage. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 6:42pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
lawrenzoh:I'm not sure if the process has changed but last year, a relative got their NIN through an agent. London based but I'm sure they have agents all over. It cost 50 quid; I'm not sure what evidence they had to provide but it was minimal if I remember correctly. The agent should advise what documents to bring. They had to wait 24 hrs for the NIN to be activated and then they could go ahead to apply for the passport. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 6:44pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
Zahra29:Nigerians are just an emotional bunch generally Kemi jabs has disoriented them Im glad that at least u know what im talking about When Suella was Home Secretary Indians "felt it" |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 7:12pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
RodgersAkpafu:💯 Emotions working overdrive. Many south Asians cannot stand Suella and Patel. Even Rishi was called a coconut and he didn't even say nothing about India😂 (well he wouldn't cos his father-in-law is a literally an Indian billionaire ) but Asians, including Pakistani Muslims, felt let down that he didn't do much for them and did not stand up against Islamophobia and the anti-immigrant rhetoric. No surprise as people from your home country are generally the hardest to please. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 7:13pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
willyede:I saw this post verbatim from a tweet not too long ago I'm assuming you also tweeted that there as well, And again, I'm not sure I'll agree with you because in Rishi case, I can bet he doesn't see himself as the same as the regular Indian on the street Going to Winchester alone has cut you off and you see yourself more as the white aristocrat than the Indian dalit, You cannot disassociate yourself from a group you never considered yourself a part of in the first place Adding that he is a descendant of Indians who were Ugandans and pursued by Idi Amin, the connection is further weakened |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 7:14pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
Zahra29:These guys don't see themselves as part of us They are in that upper echelon (at least in their mind) Kemi grew up in Nigeria so her case is more complicated and cannot totally extricate herself from Nigeria But Sunak? Easy |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 8:26pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
RodgersAkpafu:Some Africans will be Africans cant change nothing ! Cant be nothing! And when you talk about it, they gang up against you. One even said he will come for me lol. That my own don too much on this platform lol. One even call me rat lol. Kemi spoke her truth about her shithlole boarding school experience and i urge her to continue on that trajectory, maybe that will make our politicians have a change of heart. I sha Know say after our japa journey one day we go head back home and i hope there is a home. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 8:29pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
lavida001:as per the bolded You are on your own on that one tbvh lol No be me and you dey go "home" Me don disown that failure and shame of a country |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 8:30pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
willyede:No mind Goke jare. Na only the guy know as e dey reason. always shifting goal post. But na him opinion e dey entitled to it. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 8:31pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
RodgersAkpafu:Lets have this conversation again when you turn 70. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 8:47pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
lavida001:My uncles are in their 80s here and they have disowned the country since they came here in the 70s You think it's every Nigerian who yearns to go home in old age A retired teacher I met in his 70s is here with his West Indian wife, kids and grand kids and that baba sef don disown Nigeria I have met quite a few and thats more than enough references to show that one can indeed sever connections to Nigeria IF THEY WANT TO BTW have you been to Bradford Pakis have made there their home Even the ones of 90 years dem still dey |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 9:09pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
RodgersAkpafu:E get where those ones never occupy ![]() they have hacked the system. For your mind i know say you go like go back. Some people have gone back for good while others went back and run back to uk after 2yrs. As for me i will be going back max at age 60. Those wey wan tour the world from uk to canada then to Au make dem continue. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lawrenzoh: 10:43pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
Zahra29:Thanks Zahra29. Any chance how I can get to the agent? |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(mod): 11:04pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
lawrenzoh:They have agents in different cities, they are listed in NIN website, google it and pick agent closer to you |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 5:38am On Aug 09, 2025 |
Goke7:I could have alot of issues with our Unis but many standard secondary schools do thrive to put the best into kids with the little they have. I went to a military school where corporal punishment was then the norm. Though I don't subscribe to corporal punishment, I have no regrets going there and my life pathway might have been very different if I didn't. There are folks who still send their kids back to school in 9ja Regarding that stint, it was an interesting period of time. The lady appeared to be doing well for herself, holding a good role in an oil and gas firm. However, despite being the one to reach out she also appeared unduly paranoid from the start. I kept wondering- if you're so scared of Nigerians, why seek to date one? Ultimately communicated to her that the kind of man she seeks would not tolerate her baggage. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 5:58am On Aug 09, 2025*. Modified: 2:55pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
Zahra29:When you keep repeating a something, its almost always dodgy. Thanks to Trump, there is a wider understanding today of what trade deals actually mean. The UK and Nigeria signing a trade deal is not something to be happy about without knowing the details (both theoritical and practical). A 'trade deal' can in many cases be detrimental you know? I had my skepticism about the deal given how quickly it was seemingly put together. Not knocking Kemi here- she acted in the best interest of the UK (which she represented) but that shouldn't be misconstrued to mean she did same for Nigeria. Infact, the opposite might be the case. Talking about the deal, our lawyers vehemently opposed it. UK trade with Nigeria is currently tilted heavily in favour of the UK and that tilt is accelerating perhaps due to the 'trade deal' you expect us to be thankful of.
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| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 7:43am On Aug 09, 2025 |
lavida001:Hehe. You took that personal. The issue with you is that at every turn you exude inferiority - that together with similar proclitive narratives lead no where. You wouldn't get anyone with a working brain following you down that path Let me ask, how do you intend to build Nigeria? I came to the UK in 2019. I remember asking on this page then if I could use some credit available to me then (and could easily repay) to get some business venture I had in 9ja going. Oddly, I got alot of shout down. When I was supported with £20k for my training, I invested most of that money in Nigeria at the expense of arguably better reasoning to buy a house in the UK (pre-covid boom). In my first 18m of being in the UK, I had invested over 40m in Nigeria. I get about 500k pcm from that today. A colleague of mine who modernised his diagnostic centre nets 1-2m in profits pcm which he continues to plough back into the Nigerian economy. I have, still am and should continue to invest back home in 9ja as I have in the UK. The bottomline is that thinking home and building in the UK (or ones place of abode) are not mutually exclusive and if you think seeing yourself as inferior is going to get anyone worth their salt to follow you, then you have to think again. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by dentalux: 8:39am On Aug 09, 2025 |
Zahra29:The stereotype is there so whil make it worse by calling the country out unprovoked. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by dentalux: 8:52am On Aug 09, 2025 |
I have mixed feelings for the most recent headline on Kemi. I feel the interviewer inferred from Kemi's story that she is a snitch. Where do we draw the line between a whistle blower and a snitch? To me, interviewer was looking for ways to humble her. First, she said, "I was 14 or 16 when...." , interviewer assumed 14 and Kemi respected 14 or 15. What is it with the age thing from both sides? Finally the interviewer called her a snitch. He called her that cos he already had her in mind. He could have called her a whistle blower. Again, knowing Kemi for who she is, she was on a mission to say Nigerians who are making waves in various fields are cheats. Kemi doesn't make the headline on anything related to the economy. When she feels her populatity is dropping she brings Nigeria into it. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Cyberknight: 9:24am On Aug 09, 2025 |
dentalux:I'm no fan of Badenoch, but I've no issues with her saying she doesn't identify as Nigerian. I've a few family members and friends who left Nigeria years and years ago and who never go back or have any connection thereto apart from family and who would probably express the same sentiment as she did if not necessarily in those words. It's not uncommon and I can fully understand why they and she might feel that way. Badenoch's comments about what she experienced at FGC Shagamu are likely factual (I went to a federal boarding school in the 80s as well, leaving mine around the time Badenoch would have been entering one (1991?)), and I have some fond and not-so-fond memories of the time (life as a Form 1 student was hell, as a Form 2 student a little less so, it became bearable from Form 3 onwards and admittedly enjoyable (with the limited horizons of the time) when one started wearing trousers and had junior students to order around and beat up just like one had been ordered around and beaten up by senior students previously), so I recognise her descriptions. It would have been helpful (but not expected) had she contextualised this by accepting that Nigerian boarding schools were based on the British concept and a large number of attendees of British boarding schools also found their experience hellish and rudimentary according to the country's stage of development at the time they attended. The (since rubbished) aim of the British boarding school experience was to "build character through adversity" and it was believed that sending children away from home to live independently and endure deprivation was the way to make them tough. There are any number of people in this country (and in other former British-ruled places) who call themselves boarding school survivors and the media is full of talk about how the experience scarred them and so forth. She'd have been better served if she'd left it at that. Her latest comments about what she allegedly did in school by fingering cheats and ostensibly demonstrating her pureness of heart as another reason why she couldn't fit into Nigeria are childish in the extreme and diminish her. Weirdly, while I've no interest in her party and its struggles, I actually want her to do a better job of being an opposition leader so that black people in the UK in general - and we who bear the label of Nigerians in particular - do not have to deal with yet another situation being used to support the trope of messing things up when they are in such positions. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 9:33am On Aug 09, 2025 |
jedisco:He said (from one of his posts earlier) he will stay in the uk till he’s 60 years old and return to Nigeria 😂 that’s how long Nigeria should wait for him to build the country! |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 9:43am On Aug 09, 2025 |
Cyberknight:In summary both Nigeria and the Uk has no sin then with its boarding system, it was just in tandem with the times and supposed best practice. Thanks for the clarity sir. And as for Aunty doing a better job as opposition leader, you’ll wait forever o 😂 and expect more labels o yes we ain’t done baby (pardon my American language) |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 9:49am On Aug 09, 2025 |
jedisco:Nigerian men are hot cake now globally 😂 perhaps all the attacks from Aunty could be attributed to being served breakfast from one of us back then! You can never know o! cos even a whole trade deal could not help our matter! |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 1:57pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
jedisco:I "repeated" the trade deal twice for the benefit of any readers like you who hadn't heard of it. A trade deal is rarely ever 50-50 but it does present significant opportunities which both parties are expected to leverage. The Nigerian government should have listened to their lawyers' vehement concerns and negotiated better terms for the country - that's literally their job. Unless they were forced at gun point to to accept the deal, which I doubt. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 2:20pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
Cyberknight:One of the very few objective and logical comments on this topic. Cyberknight:Exactly. Figures like JO'B are very openly critical about their negative experiences in boarding school, largely centred around heavy handed discipline (caning used to be normal at boys schools, since banned), bullying/ hazing from seniors and sometimes s**ual abuse. They haven't been told to keep quiet lest they upset the establishment or harm its image, neither do they claim that the suffering they endured helped "mould their character" and pave the way for success. Cyberknight:I hear you, but I will have to keep labouring this point... The nature of British politics is such that after their disastrous defeat last year, the Tories were doomed to languish in the polls regardless of the colour, ethnicity, gender of the new leader. Kemi's replacement will face exactly the same criticism because Brits are stubborn, and history shows that it will take at least 2 terms for them to forget the "betrayal" of the last Tory government (tax rises, immigration etc) and vote for them again. So as it stands, Kemi or no Kemi, due to the perceived failure of the last government, the Tories will undoubtedly remain in the opposition wilderness for another 9 years...after that we'll see, depends on who's in power in 2034 - Labour, or as looks increasingly likely, Reform. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 4:59pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
jedisco:Unlike you money means nothing to me all i want is a simple minimal life. You can go ahead and show off like you usually do on here of how much you got or have made/ invested. I cant be bothered about that. Like i said you are entitled to your opinion and journey mercies as you head to Canada. wont engage you further. THE END |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 10:52pm On Aug 09, 2025 |
lavida001:So, let me get this straight. You rail at everyone about the need to fix Nigeria but you won’t go home till you’re 60 nor will you do anything from abroad because you want a “simple minimal life”. So all your purpose will be to laugh at Nigeria and laugh at the UK as well like you’ve been doing. Sounds awfully like you’re one of those “can’t be nothing can’t change nothing” people you keep railing about. Ehyah. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 12:26am On Aug 10, 2025 |
Goodenoch:I’m talking about it and advocating for it with any opportunity I have unlike many who don’t even want to hear about it. That’s the difference. If you guys don’t care that’s your choice I will keep speaking my truth and don’t need your validations. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 12:53am On Aug 10, 2025 |
I will leave you all to your vices and go find my tribe. |
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