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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by willyede(m): 4:33pm On Aug 07, 2025
Goke7:
In addition some Nigerians too both in the diaspora and at home are also part of the bigger problem always insisting that whatever she says is the truth because of how bad they also feel about the country and for as long as she has that audience and attention she will continue to say whatever no matter how hurtful it may be. Both she and that audience don’t really care about what damage it does to us as a people. And it’s good so we can easily identify, ignore or avoid them too.
Rishi Sunak was the head boy at Winchester.

He's more comfortable in his skin, because he's interacted with the upper class who dominate the Tory Party all his life.

In contrast, if you grew up in Lagos and attended FGGC Shagamu and ISIL, you'd never quite feel you "belong".
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29:
willyede:
Rishi Sunak was the head boy at Winchester.

He's more comfortable in his skin, because he's interacted with the upper class who dominate the Tory Party all his life.

In contrast, if you grew up in Lagos and attended FGGC Shagamu and ISIL, you'd never quite feel you "belong".
Your words, not hers, though as she said that she feels more at home with her extended Tory family than in Nigeria.

Besides the Tory upper class voted for Kemi but rejected Rishi, opting instead for Truss "the lettuce" whom most people knew was far less talented.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 6:36pm On Aug 07, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
Suella Braveman, Zia Yusuf, Ben Habib, Priti Patel are four examples of why I wont agree with the bolded

Esp Ben Habib

Have you heard the condescending way they talk about South Asians (Indians and Pakistanis) despite having the origins

Rishi is a gentleman, so he wasn't neck deep in that rabbit hole
He will rather stay neutral

What I'll agree with though is that Kemi does her own more frequently than the others

And to be honest, I understand PERFECTLY why they are the way they are (Kemi plus the 5 people i listed up there)

When you go "up there" and u look "down there" and see the state of your respective communities

Sometimes there is that psychological impulse to separate yourself from it

Thai people do that a lot in America as well
Lol Ben Habib is the worst by far, even Reform thought he was too right wing lol

Both Suella and Patel almost derailed the India Trade deal because they opposed significant aspects mainly the proposed more generous immigration pathways and lower costs for Indian nationals. In contrast Kemi signed a landmark £7bn trade deal with Nigeria when she was Business Secretary...so emotions aside, one could argue that despite her jabs, she's perhaps shown the most support to her country of heritage.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 6:42pm On Aug 07, 2025
lawrenzoh:
Hi guys, I need to travel with my family to Nigeria. My wife and daughter both have British passports.

I want to get a Nigerian passport for my child but she doesn't have a NIN. How can I get her NIN here in the UK
I'm not sure if the process has changed but last year, a relative got their NIN through an agent. London based but I'm sure they have agents all over. It cost 50 quid; I'm not sure what evidence they had to provide but it was minimal if I remember correctly. The agent should advise what documents to bring.

They had to wait 24 hrs for the NIN to be activated and then they could go ahead to apply for the passport.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 6:44pm On Aug 07, 2025
Zahra29:
Lol Ben Habib is the worst by far, even Reform thought he was too right wing lol

Both Suella and Patel almost derailed the India Trade deal because they opposed significant aspects mainly the proposed more generous immigration pathways and lower costs for Indian nationals. In contrast Kemi signed a landmark £7bn trade deal with Nigeria when she was Business Secretary...so emotions aside, one could argue that despite her jabs, she's perhaps shown the most support to her country of heritage.
Nigerians are just an emotional bunch generally
Kemi jabs has disoriented them

Im glad that at least u know what im talking about

When Suella was Home Secretary
Indians "felt it"
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 7:12pm On Aug 07, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
Nigerians are just an emotional bunch generally
Kemi jabs has disoriented them

Im glad that at least u know what im talking about

When Suella was Home Secretary
Indians "felt it"
💯

Emotions working overdrive.

Many south Asians cannot stand Suella and Patel.

Even Rishi was called a coconut and he didn't even say nothing about India😂 (well he wouldn't cos his father-in-law is a literally an Indian billionaire ) but Asians, including Pakistani Muslims, felt let down that he didn't do much for them and did not stand up against Islamophobia and the anti-immigrant rhetoric.

No surprise as people from your home country are generally the hardest to please.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 7:13pm On Aug 07, 2025
willyede:
Rishi Sunak was the head boy at Winchester.

He's more comfortable in his skin, because he's interacted with the upper class who dominate the Tory Party all his life.

In contrast, if you grew up in Lagos and attended FGGC Shagamu and ISIL, you'd never quite feel you "belong".
I saw this post verbatim from a tweet not too long ago

I'm assuming you also tweeted that there as well,
And again, I'm not sure I'll agree with you because in Rishi case, I can bet he doesn't see himself as the same as the regular Indian on the street

Going to Winchester alone has cut you off and you see yourself more as the white aristocrat than the Indian dalit,
You cannot disassociate yourself from a group you never considered yourself a part of in the first place

Adding that he is a descendant of Indians who were Ugandans and pursued by Idi Amin, the connection is further weakened
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 7:14pm On Aug 07, 2025
Zahra29:
💯

Emotions working overdrive.

Many south Asians cannot stand Suella and Patel.

Even Rishi was called a coconut and he didn't even say nothing about India😂 (well he wouldn't cos his father-in-law is a literally an Indian billionaire ) but Asians, including Pakistani Muslims, felt let down that he didn't do much for them and did not stand up against Islamophobia and the anti-immigrant rhetoric.

No surprise as people from your home country are generally the hardest to please.
These guys don't see themselves as part of us

They are in that upper echelon (at least in their mind)

Kemi grew up in Nigeria so her case is more complicated and cannot totally extricate herself from Nigeria

But Sunak?
Easy
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 8:26pm On Aug 07, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
But what she is saying IS THE TRUTH
We can argue to the effect that sometimes she refers to that when she doesn't have to

But Nigeria is a failed shiithole shame of a country that is still grappling with what others have solved at least a century ago

I mean, the world knows it so why are we pretending

We can argue and say that Kemi is being an opportunist, and all, but come on, a country that over half of its populace dont have access to proper toilet sanitation and also have the HIGHEST OUT OF SCHOOL KIDS on planet earth shouldn't be acting all "bougie"

If anything, the collective shame we feel now should spur us into doing something bout it

But alas
Is it not Africans?
Some Africans will be Africans cant change nothing ! Cant be nothing!
And when you talk about it, they gang up against you. One even said he will come for me lol. That my own don too much on this platform lol. One even call me rat lol. Kemi spoke her truth about her shithlole boarding school experience and i urge her to continue on that trajectory, maybe that will make our politicians have a change of heart.

I sha Know say after our japa journey one day we go head back home and i hope there is a home.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 8:29pm On Aug 07, 2025
lavida001:
Some Africans will be Africans cant change nothing ! Cant be nothing!
And when you talk about it, they gang up against you. One even said he will come for me lol. That my own don too much on this platform lol. One even call me rat lol. Kemi spoke her truth about her shithlole boarding school experience and i urge her to continue on that trajectory, maybe that will make our politicians have a change of heart.

I sha Know say after our japa journey one day we go head back home and i hope there is a home
as per the bolded
You are on your own on that one tbvh lol

No be me and you dey go "home"
Me don disown that failure and shame of a country
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 8:30pm On Aug 07, 2025
willyede:
Rishi Sunak was the head boy at Winchester.

He's more comfortable in his skin, because he's interacted with the upper class who dominate the Tory Party all his life.

In contrast, if you grew up in Lagos and attended FGGC Shagamu and ISIL, you'd never quite feel you "belong"
No mind Goke jare. Na only the guy know as e dey reason. always shifting goal post.

But na him opinion e dey entitled to it.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 8:31pm On Aug 07, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
as per the bolded
You are on your own on that one tbvh lol

No be me and you dey go "home"
Me don disown that failure and shame of a country
Lets have this conversation again when you turn 70.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 8:47pm On Aug 07, 2025
lavida001:
Lets have this conversation again when you turn 70.
My uncles are in their 80s here and they have disowned the country since they came here in the 70s

You think it's every Nigerian who yearns to go home in old age

A retired teacher I met in his 70s is here with his West Indian wife, kids and grand kids and that baba sef don disown Nigeria

I have met quite a few and thats more than enough references to show that one can indeed sever connections to Nigeria IF THEY WANT TO

BTW have you been to Bradford
Pakis have made there their home
Even the ones of 90 years
dem still dey
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 9:09pm On Aug 07, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
My uncles are in their 80s here and they have disowned the country since they came here in the 70s

You think it's every Nigerian who yearns to go home in old age

A retired teacher I met in his 70s is here with his West Indian wife, kids and grand kids and that baba sef don disown Nigeria

I have met quite a few and thats more than enough references to show that one can indeed sever connections to Nigeria IF THEY WANT TO

BTW have you been to Bradford
Pakis have made there their home
Even the ones of 90 years
dem still dey
E get where those ones never occupy grin
they have hacked the system.

For your mind i know say you go like go back. Some people have gone back for good while others went back and run back to uk after 2yrs.

As for me i will be going back max at age 60. Those wey wan tour the world from uk to canada then to Au make dem continue.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lawrenzoh: 10:43pm On Aug 07, 2025
Zahra29:
I'm not sure if the process has changed but last year, a relative got their NIN through an agent. London based but I'm sure they have agents all over. It cost 50 quid; I'm not sure what evidence they had to provide but it was minimal if I remember correctly. The agent should advise what documents to bring.

They had to wait 24 hrs for the NIN to be activated and then they could go ahead to apply for the passport.
Thanks Zahra29. Any chance how I can get to the agent?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(mod): 11:04pm On Aug 07, 2025
lawrenzoh:
Thanks Zahra29. Any chance how I can get to the agent?
They have agents in different cities, they are listed in NIN website, google it and pick agent closer to you
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 5:38am On Aug 09, 2025
Goke7:
Run o! 🏃 any hole wey dem dig for you 😂 jump n pass!

As for our dear aunty I don Dey see many FGC shagamu alumni posting on social media their prison uniform for school and where they are today! The same prison made them but couldn’t make Aunty get to understand who she be gan gan, abeg second base jare!
I could have alot of issues with our Unis but many standard secondary schools do thrive to put the best into kids with the little they have. I went to a military school where corporal punishment was then the norm. Though I don't subscribe to corporal punishment, I have no regrets going there and my life pathway might have been very different if I didn't. There are folks who still send their kids back to school in 9ja

Regarding that stint, it was an interesting period of time. The lady appeared to be doing well for herself, holding a good role in an oil and gas firm. However, despite being the one to reach out she also appeared unduly paranoid from the start. I kept wondering- if you're so scared of Nigerians, why seek to date one? Ultimately communicated to her that the kind of man she seeks would not tolerate her baggage.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m):
Zahra29:
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Both Suella and Patel almost derailed the India Trade deal because they opposed significant aspects mainly the proposed more generous immigration pathways and lower costs for Indian nationals. In contrast Kemi signed a landmark £7bn trade deal with Nigeria when she was Business Secretary...so emotions aside, one could argue that despite her jabs, she's perhaps shown the most support to her country of heritage.
When you keep repeating a something, its almost always dodgy.

Thanks to Trump, there is a wider understanding today of what trade deals actually mean.
The UK and Nigeria signing a trade deal is not something to be happy about without knowing the details (both theoritical and practical). A 'trade deal' can in many cases be detrimental you know? I had my skepticism about the deal given how quickly it was seemingly put together. Not knocking Kemi here- she acted in the best interest of the UK (which she represented) but that shouldn't be misconstrued to mean she did same for Nigeria. Infact, the opposite might be the case.

Talking about the deal, our lawyers vehemently opposed it. UK trade with Nigeria is currently tilted heavily in favour of the UK and that tilt is accelerating perhaps due to the 'trade deal' you expect us to be thankful of.

Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 7:43am On Aug 09, 2025
lavida001:
Some Africans will be Africans cant change nothing ! Cant be nothing!
And when you talk about it, they gang up against you. One even said he will come for me lol. That my own don too much on this platform lol. One even call me rat lol. Kemi spoke her truth about her shithlole boarding school experience and i urge her to continue on that trajectory, maybe that will make our politicians have a change of heart.

I sha Know say after our japa journey one day we go head back home and i hope there is a home.
Hehe. You took that personal. The issue with you is that at every turn you exude inferiority - that together with similar proclitive narratives lead no where. You wouldn't get anyone with a working brain following you down that path

Let me ask, how do you intend to build Nigeria?

I came to the UK in 2019. I remember asking on this page then if I could use some credit available to me then (and could easily repay) to get some business venture I had in 9ja going. Oddly, I got alot of shout down. When I was supported with £20k for my training, I invested most of that money in Nigeria at the expense of arguably better reasoning to buy a house in the UK (pre-covid boom). In my first 18m of being in the UK, I had invested over 40m in Nigeria. I get about 500k pcm from that today. A colleague of mine who modernised his diagnostic centre nets 1-2m in profits pcm which he continues to plough back into the Nigerian economy.

I have, still am and should continue to invest back home in 9ja as I have in the UK. The bottomline is that thinking home and building in the UK (or ones place of abode) are not mutually exclusive and if you think seeing yourself as inferior is going to get anyone worth their salt to follow you, then you have to think again.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by dentalux: 8:39am On Aug 09, 2025
Zahra29:
LOL I'm not Yoruba but I have a few Yoruba friends so I've picked up a "lirru" of the language over time 😂

Believe it or not, I'm quite ambivalent about Kemi. I've followed her at a high level since she became an MP in 2017 and I was never a big fan of hers (and the Tory party broadly), although there were certain traits I found admirable and of course I commend her achievement as first black Tory leader.

She is definitely guilty of saying the wrong things sometimes and I don't always defend her - e..g I was 🤐 when she made the comment about not being able to pass on Nigerian citizenship to her kids because her assertion was wrong from what I could see.
There are also comments she's made in the past that I have strongly disagreed with.

However I'm objective enough to recognise that the extreme criticism/hate and even slurs that she faces by some on this forum over pretty much everything she says, is simply because they do not like her - because they believe that she has "denigrated" Nigeria....Which I find quite funny because I really don't think that Kemi is Nigeria's problem. Whatever negative opinion that people may have of Nigeria is not because of what Kemi has said, but from the image that has built up over time e.g.

- PM Cameron publicly (in front of the Queen no less) called Nigeria a "fantastically corrupt" country in 2016 - before Kemi even became an MP.

- circa 2008/2010, the "Nigerian Prince" and "419" association became widely known due to scams being highlighted in the UK media

- the BBC and others have very recently run several documentaries and articles highlighting the prevalence of COS scams in certain communities including Nigeria

So whether Kemi shares her negative lived experiences in Nigeria or chooses to portray Nigeria as an idyllic haven, the British public/world already have their own views - good or bad - and it's not because of Kemi. So in my opinion, all this hate towards her is misplaced and rather pointless.
The stereotype is there so whil make it worse by calling the country out unprovoked.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by dentalux: 8:52am On Aug 09, 2025
I have mixed feelings for the most recent headline on Kemi. I feel the interviewer inferred from Kemi's story that she is a snitch. Where do we draw the line between a whistle blower and a snitch?

To me, interviewer was looking for ways to humble her. First, she said, "I was 14 or 16 when...." , interviewer assumed 14 and Kemi respected 14 or 15. What is it with the age thing from both sides? Finally the interviewer called her a snitch. He called her that cos he already had her in mind. He could have called her a whistle blower.

Again, knowing Kemi for who she is, she was on a mission to say Nigerians who are making waves in various fields are cheats. Kemi doesn't make the headline on anything related to the economy. When she feels her populatity is dropping she brings Nigeria into it.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Cyberknight: 9:24am On Aug 09, 2025
dentalux:
I have mixed feelings for the most recent headline on Kemi. I feel the interviewer inferred from Kemi's story that she is a snitch. Where do we draw the line between a whistle blower and a snitch?

To me, interviewer was looking for ways to humble her. First, she said, "I was 14 or 16 when...." , interviewer assumed 14 and Kemi respected 14 or 15. What is it with the age thing from both sides? Finally the interviewer called her a snitch. He called her that cos he already had her in mind. He could have called her a whistle blower.

Again, knowing Kemi for who she is, she was on a mission to say Nigerians who are making waves in various fields are cheats. Kemi doesn't make the headline on anything related to the economy. When she feels her populatity is dropping she brings Nigeria into it.
I'm no fan of Badenoch, but I've no issues with her saying she doesn't identify as Nigerian. I've a few family members and friends who left Nigeria years and years ago and who never go back or have any connection thereto apart from family and who would probably express the same sentiment as she did if not necessarily in those words. It's not uncommon and I can fully understand why they and she might feel that way.

Badenoch's comments about what she experienced at FGC Shagamu are likely factual (I went to a federal boarding school in the 80s as well, leaving mine around the time Badenoch would have been entering one (1991?)), and I have some fond and not-so-fond memories of the time (life as a Form 1 student was hell, as a Form 2 student a little less so, it became bearable from Form 3 onwards and admittedly enjoyable (with the limited horizons of the time) when one started wearing trousers and had junior students to order around and beat up just like one had been ordered around and beaten up by senior students previously), so I recognise her descriptions.

It would have been helpful (but not expected) had she contextualised this by accepting that Nigerian boarding schools were based on the British concept and a large number of attendees of British boarding schools also found their experience hellish and rudimentary according to the country's stage of development at the time they attended. The (since rubbished) aim of the British boarding school experience was to "build character through adversity" and it was believed that sending children away from home to live independently and endure deprivation was the way to make them tough. There are any number of people in this country (and in other former British-ruled places) who call themselves boarding school survivors and the media is full of talk about how the experience scarred them and so forth.

She'd have been better served if she'd left it at that. Her latest comments about what she allegedly did in school by fingering cheats and ostensibly demonstrating her pureness of heart as another reason why she couldn't fit into Nigeria are childish in the extreme and diminish her. Weirdly, while I've no interest in her party and its struggles, I actually want her to do a better job of being an opposition leader so that black people in the UK in general - and we who bear the label of Nigerians in particular - do not have to deal with yet another situation being used to support the trope of messing things up when they are in such positions.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 9:33am On Aug 09, 2025
jedisco:
Hehe. You took that personal. The issue with you is that at every turn you exude inferiority - that together with similar proclitive narratives lead no where. You wouldn't get anyone with a working brain following you down that path

Let me ask, how do you intend to build Nigeria?

I came to the UK in 2019. I remember asking on this page then if I could use some credit available to me then (and could easily repay) to get some business venture I had in 9ja going. Oddly, I got alot of shout down. When I was supported with £20k for my training, I invested most of that money in Nigeria at the expense of arguably better reasoning to buy a house in the UK (pre-covid boom). In my first 18m of being in the UK, I had invested over 40m in Nigeria. I get about 500k pcm from that today. A colleague of mine who modernised his diagnostic centre nets 1-2m in profits pcm which he continues to plough back into the Nigerian economy.

I have, still am and should continue to invest back home in 9ja as I have in the UK. The bottomline is that thinking home and building in the UK (or ones place of abode) are not mutually exclusive and if you think seeing yourself as inferior is going to get anyone worth their salt to follow you, then you have to think again.
He said (from one of his posts earlier) he will stay in the uk till he’s 60 years old and return to Nigeria 😂 that’s how long Nigeria should wait for him to build the country!
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 9:43am On Aug 09, 2025
Cyberknight:
I'm no fan of Badenoch, but I've no issues with her saying she doesn't identify as Nigerian. I've a few family members and friends who left Nigeria years and years ago and who never go back or have any connection thereto apart from family and who would probably express the same sentiment as she did if not necessarily in those words. It's not uncommon and I can fully understand why they and she might feel that way.

Badenoch's comments about what she experienced at FGC Shagamu are likely factual (I went to a federal boarding school in the 80s as well, leaving mine around the time Badenoch would have been entering one (1991?)), and I have some fond and not-so-fond memories of the time (life as a Form 1 student was hell, as a Form 2 student a little less so, it became bearable from Form 3 onwards and admittedly enjoyable (with the limited horizons of the time) when one started wearing trousers and had junior students to order around and beat up just like one had been ordered around and beaten up by senior students previously), so I recognise her descriptions.

It would have been helpful (but not expected) had she contextualised this by accepting that Nigerian boarding schools were based on the British concept and a large number of attendees of British boarding schools also found their experience hellish and rudimentary according to the country's stage of development at the time they attended. The (since rubbished) aim of the British boarding school experience was to "build character through adversity" and it was believed that sending children away from home to live independently and endure deprivation was the way to make them tough. There are any number of people in this country (and in other former British-ruled places) who call themselves boarding school survivors and the media is full of talk about how the experience scarred them and so forth.

She'd have been better served if she'd left it at that. Her latest comments about what she allegedly did in school by fingering cheats and ostensibly demonstrating her pureness of heart as another reason why she couldn't fit into Nigeria are childish in the extreme and diminish her. Weirdly, while I've no interest in her party and its struggles, I actually want her to do a better job of being an opposition leader so that black people in the UK in general - and we who bear the label of Nigerians in particular - do not have to deal with yet another situation being used to support the trope of messing things up when they are in such positions.
In summary both Nigeria and the Uk has no sin then with its boarding system, it was just in tandem with the times and supposed best practice. Thanks for the clarity sir.

And as for Aunty doing a better job as opposition leader, you’ll wait forever o 😂 and expect more labels o yes we ain’t done baby (pardon my American language)
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 9:49am On Aug 09, 2025
jedisco:
I could have alot of issues with our Unis but many standard secondary schools do thrive to put the best into kids with the little they have. I went to a military school where corporal punishment was then the norm. Though I don't subscribe to corporal punishment, I have no regrets going there and my life pathway might have been very different if I didn't. There are folks who still send their kids back to school in 9ja

Regarding that stint, it was an interesting period of time. The lady appeared to be doing well for herself, holding a good role in an oil and gas firm. However, despite being the one to reach out she also appeared unduly paranoid from the start. I kept wondering- if you're so scared of Nigerians, why seek to date one? Ultimately communicated to her that the kind of man she seeks would not tolerate her baggage.
Nigerian men are hot cake now globally 😂 perhaps all the attacks from Aunty could be attributed to being served breakfast from one of us back then! You can never know o! cos even a whole trade deal could not help our matter!
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 1:57pm On Aug 09, 2025
jedisco:
When you keep repeating a something, its almost always dodgy.

Thanks to Trump, there is a wider understanding today of what trade deals actually mean.
The UK and Nigeria signing a trade deal is not something to be happy about without knowing the details (both theoritical and practical). A 'trade deal' can in many cases be detrimental you know? I had my skepticism about the deal given how seemingly quickly it was put together. Not knocking Kemi here- she acted in the best interest of the UK but that shouldn't be misconstrued to mean she did same for Nigeria. Infact, the opposite might be the case.

Talking about the deal, our lawyers vehemently opposed it. UK trade with Nigeria is currently tilted heavily in favour of the UK and that tilt is accelerating perhaps due to the 'trade deal' you expect us to be thankful of.
I "repeated" the trade deal twice for the benefit of any readers like you who hadn't heard of it.

A trade deal is rarely ever 50-50 but it does present significant opportunities which both parties are expected to leverage.

The Nigerian government should have listened to their lawyers' vehement concerns and negotiated better terms for the country - that's literally their job. Unless they were forced at gun point to to accept the deal, which I doubt.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 2:20pm On Aug 09, 2025
Cyberknight:
I'm no fan of Badenoch, but I've no issues with her saying she doesn't identify as Nigerian. I've a few family members and friends who left Nigeria years and years ago and who never go back or have any connection thereto apart from family and who would probably express the same sentiment as she did if not necessarily in those words. It's not uncommon and I can fully understand why they and she might feel that way.
One of the very few objective and logical comments on this topic.

Cyberknight:
Badenoch's comments about what she experienced at FGC Shagamu are likely factual.
a large number of attendees of British boarding schools also found their experience hellish and rudimentary according to the country's stage of development at the time they attended
Exactly. Figures like JO'B are very openly critical about their negative experiences in boarding school, largely centred around heavy handed discipline (caning used to be normal at boys schools, since banned), bullying/ hazing from seniors and sometimes s**ual abuse. They haven't been told to keep quiet lest they upset the establishment or harm its image, neither do they claim that the suffering they endured helped "mould their character" and pave the way for success.

Cyberknight:
Weirdly, while I've no interest in her party and its struggles, I actually want her to do a better job of being an opposition leader so that black people in the UK in general - and we who bear the label of Nigerians in particular - do not have to deal with yet another situation being used to support the trope of messing things up when they are in such positions.
I hear you, but I will have to keep labouring this point...
The nature of British politics is such that after their disastrous defeat last year, the Tories were doomed to languish in the polls regardless of the colour, ethnicity, gender of the new leader.

Kemi's replacement will face exactly the same criticism because Brits are stubborn, and history shows that it will take at least 2 terms for them to forget the "betrayal" of the last Tory government (tax rises, immigration etc) and vote for them again.

So as it stands, Kemi or no Kemi, due to the perceived failure of the last government, the Tories will undoubtedly remain in the opposition wilderness for another 9 years...after that we'll see, depends on who's in power in 2034 - Labour, or as looks increasingly likely, Reform.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 4:59pm On Aug 09, 2025
jedisco:
Hehe. You took that personal. The issue with you is that at every turn you exude inferiority - that together with similar proclitive narratives lead no where. You wouldn't get anyone with a working brain following you down that path

Let me ask, how do you intend to build Nigeria?

I came to the UK in 2019. I remember asking on this page then if I could use some credit available to me then (and could easily repay) to get some business venture I had in 9ja going. Oddly, I got alot of shout down. When I was supported with £20k for my training, I invested most of that money in Nigeria at the expense of arguably better reasoning to buy a house in the UK (pre-covid boom). In my first 18m of being in the UK, I had invested over 40m in Nigeria. I get about 500k pcm from that today. A colleague of mine who modernised his diagnostic centre nets 1-2m in profits pcm which he continues to plough back into the Nigerian economy.

I have, still am and should continue to invest back home in 9ja as I have in the UK. The bottomline is that thinking home and building in the UK (or ones place of abode) are not mutually exclusive and if you think seeing yourself as inferior is going to get anyone worth their salt to follow you, then you have to think again.
Unlike you money means nothing to me all i want is a simple minimal life. You can go ahead and show off like you usually do on here of how much you got or have made/ invested. I cant be bothered about that. Like i said you are entitled to your opinion and journey mercies as you head to Canada. wont engage you further. THE END
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 10:52pm On Aug 09, 2025
lavida001:
Unlike you money means nothing to me all i want is a simple minimal life. You can go ahead and show off like you usually do on here of how much you got or have made/ invested. I cant be bothered about that. Like i said you are entitled to your opinion and journey mercies as you head to Canada. wont engage you further. THE END
So, let me get this straight. You rail at everyone about the need to fix Nigeria but you won’t go home till you’re 60 nor will you do anything from abroad because you want a “simple minimal life”. So all your purpose will be to laugh at Nigeria and laugh at the UK as well like you’ve been doing.

Sounds awfully like you’re one of those “can’t be nothing can’t change nothing” people you keep railing about. Ehyah.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 12:26am On Aug 10, 2025
Goodenoch:
So, let me get this straight. You rail at everyone about the need to fix Nigeria but you won’t go home till you’re 60 nor will you do anything from abroad because you want a “simple minimal life”. So all your purpose will be to laugh at Nigeria and laugh at the UK as well like you’ve been doing.

Sounds awfully like you’re one of those “can’t be nothing can’t change nothing” people you keep railing about. Ehyah.
I’m talking about it and advocating for it with any opportunity I have unlike many who don’t even want to hear about it. That’s the difference.

If you guys don’t care that’s your choice I will keep speaking my truth and don’t need your validations.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 12:53am On Aug 10, 2025
I will leave you all to your vices and go find my tribe.
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