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Truthseeker10:
Lol so funny....so if Ephesians 3:19 does not negate trinity, it is logical that different churches should have contradictory interpretations of Ephesians 3:19? Na wa oo...bye bye

What kind of Wayo logic is this? From Gen1 different intrepretations exist , some are literal while others claim it's metaphorical.

So what's your point? Christians have various views on different topics but one thing they agree on is that "Jesus is the messiah" and the belief in the Father. Others claim he is God, others say he is man etc

So this excuse is weak ? It's a weak one not to answer my question. Have fun... bye 👋

Julia25:
Why are you lying like this? or do you forget your words so soon?


Now answer the question, is it still the same "word of God" or "speech" that became Jesus?

If yes, then is Jesus as a being separate from the " word of God" that became him?

If no, why?

I have told you several times. Say things as I say it.

In the beginning, the word of God is his spoken word not Jesus. This is what I said.

Oya ask your question. Forget about twisting what I said and ask your question first.

Boomark:
So after lying against me to make people think I said so so things which I never said. You will now ask me question and expect me to stand on your falsehood. Then after you will have the boldness to tell people that I am contradicting myself.

I am not the type to be deceived. If you don't know how to take screenshots ask Ai. I want proof that you are not a hardened lahyah.

screenshot will reveal the same thing, so your excuse is weak. I didn't contradict you, I only showed you a contradiction in your statement; one you are so apprehensive to answer follow-up questions on

Infact even before pointing out the "word of God" contradiction in your statement, there were questions of mine you intentionally didn't answer !

So, this is not an excuse, you have been avoiding such questions; why the fear if your logic is fool proof you shouldn't worry about such?

Yes, you did. You claimed Jesus is not the word of God then right after you claimed he is the word of God Even if I overlook your mild excuse; the pertinent question now becomes, "is the word of God in Jesus (now flesh) the same as the one before his incarnation" ? Which I know you are going to lie your way out of .

Julia25:
What kind of Wayo logic is this? From Gen1 different intrepretations exist , some are literal while others claim it's metaphorical.

So what's your point? Christians have various views on different topics but one thing they agree on is that "Jesus is the messiah" and the belief in the Father. Others claim he is God, others say he is man etc

So this excuse is weak ? It's a weak one not to answer my question. Have fun... bye 👋

There is nothing like different interpretation of the scripture. Those who have different interpretations are the confused ones.

Let there be light is taking about let there be light. There is no other views except for those who twist the scripture to make their preaching sweet.

Boomark:
I have told you several times. Say things as I say it.

In the beginning, the word of God is his spoken word not Jesus. This is what I said.

Oya ask your question. Forget about twisting what I said and ask your question first.

ah ah, didn't you see the plethora of questions, I have asked you?

Even in the one above there are at least two, previous ones span others as well. Now, you realize that those are your words and you are now seeking "exact words" ; I thought you were saying that I was lying before. See how God vindicated me

Boomark:
There is nothing like different interpretation of the scripture. Those who have different interpretations are the confused ones.

Let there be light is taking about let there be light. There is no other views except for those who twist the scripture to make their preaching sweet.

Why do you jump without grabbing the proper context?

Didn't you see where I said some argue it's literal while others argue it's metaphorical?
Your matter is becoming more and more disheartening

Julia25:
screenshot will reveal the same thing, so your excuse is weak. I didn't contradict you, I only showed you a contradiction in your statement; one you are so apprehensive to answer follow-up questions on

Infact even before pointing out the "word of God" contradiction in your statement, there were questions of mine you intentionally didn't answer !

So, this is not an excuse, you have been avoiding such questions; why the fear if your logic is fool proof you shouldn't worry about such?

Yes, you did. You claimed Jesus is not the word of God then right after you claimed he is the word of God ?? Even if I overlook your mild excuse; the pertinent question now becomes, "is the word of God in Jesus (now flesh) the same as the one before his incarnation" ? Which I know you are going to lie your way out of .

Screenshot will not reveal your lie and how you twisted what I said with cut and join words. It will show things the way I said it.

I won't reply you any longer if you can't show me in screenshot where I made this claim in green colour. Mark my words. I have seen you are even worse. Repeat the same thing over and over even after correction.

Boomark:
I have told you several times. Say things as I say it.

In the beginning, the word of God is his spoken word not Jesus. This is what I said.

Oya ask your question. Forget about twisting what I said and ask your question first.

"In the beginning"? the few times we got glimpses of the beginning, the "word of God" was conscious . In Gen 3:8, we see the voice of the Lord waking in the garden—although it's an anthropomorphic allusion to God still the meaning is clear. Which results in another question of mine, "Was this "speech" conscious or not" ?

Julia25:
ah ah, didn't you see the plethora of questions, I have asked you?

Even in the one above there are at least two, previous ones span others as well. Now, you realize that those are your words and you are now seeking "exact words" ; I thought you were saying that I was lying before. See how God vindicated me

You lied. I only chose to ignore it.

This was what I wrote that is already happening. See screenshot below. She is already claiming vindication. I know them very well.

Julia25:
"In the beginning"? the few times we got glimpses of the beginning, the "word of God" was conscious . In Gen 3:8, we see the voice of the Lord waking in the garden—although it's an anthropomorphic allusion to God still the meaning is clear. Which results in another question of mine, "Was this "speech" conscious or not" ?

Screenshot of what I asked for or nothing. Bye for now till I see it.

Boomark:
Screenshot will not reveal your lie and how you twisted what I said with cut and join words. It will show things the way I said it.

I won't reply you any longer if you can't show me in screenshot where I made this claim in green colour. Mark my words. I have seen you are even worse. Repeat the same thing over and over even after correction.

Compare the below to the original whether it's " cut and join words"

Boomark:
I understood your questions.

In the beginning, the word of God is his speech. It was not Jesus.

Genesis 1:3 NIV
[3] And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.

"Let there be lights" is word. His word created light because he didn't use machine to create it.

The world was created by his word.

You people became confused when his word was made flesh and was known as Jesus. Those who know the truth and the source of everything won't be confused by this below.

The world was created by Jesus (his word)

This is why trinitarians don't want me to rest. They refused to accept the source while holding unto the surface.

The other questions will be answered in my last claim tonight or tomorrow morning in the trinity challenge thread.

I don't know where you got the bolded. It is too early to start making mistakes.

You're intellectually dishonest. This is my summary about you. You are proud, doctrine wise, but can't stand query. When questions are posed towards you, you look for excuses such as "out of point", "cut and join words" , "lying on me" to avoid giving a reply

Truthseeker10, is still better; even though he has his shortcomings. Every question you posted to me I attempted them but you and 'your gang' all shy away when asked questions.
Maxindhouse, I am still waiting for my response .

Have a nice day . When you are ready to engage mention me

Boomark:
You lied. I only chose to ignore it.

This was what I wrote that is already happening. See screenshot below. She is already claiming vindication. I know them very well.

We know people like you as well . When you are ready to come out of your shell let me know, infact I am a prophetess as well for I foresaw your behavior!

Julia25:
Which I know you are going to lie your way out of .

It's not new, when people are caught at wit's end they tend to behave such as you. Image123, fxrexmasters, Emusan and gabrielshow24 were all right The problem is with you. If anyone wants an open discussion mention me let's discuss.

Gabrielshow24:
Save your breath, it's not useful arguing with them. They are all JW except DeepSight—he sees Jesus as a mere man🤕.

One of them believes God is compositional 😂, even God's eyes can become flesh along with other parts of him but they are not God in anyway 😂, the rest believe God is non-transcendental🤕. Use your energy to do other things, leave them.

Now, I believe you. Boomark is a total waste of time . Those are his words yet he affirms textual corruption of them, he is no different to muslims

Julia25:
We know people like you as well . When you are ready to come out of your shell let me know, infact I am a prophetess as well for I foresaw your behavior!


It's not new, when people are caught at wit's end they tend to behave such as you. Image123, fxrexmasters, Emusan and gabrielshow24 were all right The problem is with you. If anyone wants an open discussion mention me let's discuss.

Lolz, they don't want an open discussion. They want to win arguments.

Julia25:
Now, I believe you. Boomark is a total waste of time . Those are his words yet he affirms textual corruption of them, he is no different to muslims

🤣🤣🤣Many ... People are roaming about and they are not necessarily in wards🤕. That's what we have been facing 😂.

Image123:
Lolz, they don't want an open discussion. They want to win arguments.

Guy, you tried—even giving him a semblance of hearing is burdensome👌.
I gave him a sabbatical after our engagement in different threads😂. He even had the guts to call God compositional and doesn't know that essentially 'God' and 'God almighty' are the same🤣. Someone that failed in such simple concepts made me realize he doesn't know what he is talking about 👌

Bro, God bless. Your patience I hope to have—I tolerated the JW crew but sooner or later I sent them on sabbaticals 😁. The last one will soon go, I am watching him vehemently, if he quotes me off point👀.

Julia25:
What kind of Wayo logic is this? From Gen1 different intrepretations exist , some are literal while others claim it's metaphorical.

So what's your point? Christians have various views on different topics but one thing they agree on is that "Jesus is the messiah" and the belief in the Father. Others claim he is God, others say he is man etc

So this excuse is weak ? It's a weak one not to answer my question. Have fun... bye 👋

😂😂😂laughable....do you even know the point of argument between the eastern orthodox and the western protestantism?

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂laughable....do you even know the point of argument between the eastern orthodox and the western protestantism?

Save me the babble, since you were reluctant to divulge your stance which I already knew , hush...and keep it to yourself.
It's too late for medicine after death. Next time you quote me, kindly begin with your stance.

Julia25:
So according to you, God made the first born then the "first born" made the rest? Is this right? ⁽¹⁾ The scripture is clear, Jesus, the word of God, made all things so, is he still a creature? ⁽²⁾ According to you.

Is the firstborn of your family your father or he was born like the rest of his siblings?

That word FIRSTBORN says it all!

Julia25:
Save me the babble, since you were reluctant to divulge your stance which I already knew , hush...and keep it to yourself.
It's too late for medicine after death. Next time you quote me, kindly begin with your stance.

😂😂😂na wa....so you don decide to run now...bye bye

Maximus692:
Is the firstborn of your family your father or he was born like the rest of his siblings?

That word FIRSTBORN says it all!

kkk, but what if you were birthed by the "first born" ?—That's the submission of scripture

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂na wa....so you don decide to run now...bye bye

🤡

Gabrielshow24:
Guy, you tried—even giving him a semblance of hearing is burdensome👌.
I gave him a sabbatical after our engagement in different threads😂. He even had the guts to call God compositional and doesn't know that essentially 'God' and 'God almighty' are the same🤣. Someone that failed in such simple concepts made me realize he doesn't know what he is talking about 👌

Bro, God bless. Your patience I hope to have—I tolerated the JW crew but sooner or later I sent them on sabbaticals 😁. The last one will soon go, I am watching him vehemently, if he quotes me off point👀.

😃😃

Julia25:
kkk, but what if you were birthed by the "first born" ?—That's the submission of scripture

This is where most readers gets confused because God using Jesus to create all other creatures doesn't make Jesus the Father or God of this creatures.
To illustrate think of Adam who is equally called God's Son just like Jesus {Luke 3:38} through Adam all humans came into existence does that makes Adam our God?
Do you know that some humans believe that they have the right to take the life of their own child because they caused or brought the child to life?
JnJesus fully understands that being the one God used to create other creatures doesn't make him their God instead Jesus called obedient humans his brother and acknowledge that we all have one father one God! John 20:17

MaxInDHouse:
This is where most readers gets confused because God using Jesus to create all other creatures doesn't make Jesus the Father or God of this creatures.
To illustrate think of Adam who is equally called God's Son just like Jesus {Luke 3:38} through Adam all humans came into existence does that makes Adam our God?
Do you know that some humans believe that they have the right to take the life of their own child because they caused or brought the child to life but Jesus fully understands that being the one God used to create other creatures doesn't make him their God instead Jesus called obedient humans his brother and acknowledge that we all have one father one God! John 20:17

Adam is not our God, Jesus made Adam or as you put it "God used Jesus to make Adam " and yet Jesus is an angel . How does this work? Mind you, Jesus was before the creation of time. Does it mean this angel is immutable?

Julia25:
Adam is not our God, Jesus made Adam or as you put it "God used Jesus to make Adam " and yet Jesus is an angel . How does this work? Mind you, Jesus was before the creation of time. Does it mean this angel is immutable?

Firstborn of all creation means Jesus was created by God first before God later gave him the privilege to create others just as God gave Adam the privilege to populate the earth!

MaxInDHouse:
Firstborn of all creation means Jesus was created by God first before God later gave him the privilege to create others just as God gave Adam the privilege to populate the earth!

Let me break it down for you in the simplest form, "did Jesus predate time?" A simple yes or no will suffice.

Julia25:
Let me break it down for you in the simplest form, "did Jesus predate time?" A simple yes or no will suffice.

Both Jesus, angels, Adam and Eve predates time.
Anyone who exist before the rebellion in Eden predates time because there was nothing like time before sin set in it was after sin set in that time began and Adam had to die within a specified time so if Adam never sinned there won't be any need of time since we will all live forever!

DeepSight:
Let us take another look on the reasons why many Christians feel Jesus of Nazareth is Almighty God.

Interested discussants are invited.

However specifically -

GabrielShow24
Boomark

It is not about what many feels, it is the truth. Except your Bible is saying otherwise. Isaiah confirmed it.

Julia25:
We know people like you as well . When you are ready to come out of your shell let me know, infact I am a prophetess as well for I foresaw your behavior!


It's not new, when people are caught at wit's end they tend to behave such as you. Image123, fxrexmasters, Emusan and gabrielshow24 were all right The problem is with you. If anyone wants an open discussion mention me let's discuss.

Let them discuss with you how to take screenshots.

That's how I catch liars. Maybe you have already foreseen that Boomark of the only true God is determined and hellbent to catch the lyinq spirit in you. That is why you can't take an ordinary screenshot.

Ordinary screenshot.

Julia25:
Adam is not our God, Jesus made Adam or as you put it "God used Jesus to make Adam " and yet Jesus is an angel . How does this work? Mind you, Jesus was before the creation of time. Does it mean this angel is immutable?

Why waste your time argueing with a Jehovah Witness member? Jesus co-existed with the Father and The HolySpirit. He said, I and my father are one(equal). That was the major reason He was crucified. They accused Him of being a man and making Himself equal with God. In otherwords, if you see Jesus, you have seen The Father. That was why He told Thomas, He is in the Father and the Father is in Him. When Thomas told Him to show him the Father.