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| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 1:02pm On Aug 24, 2025 |
ReesheesuKnack:You nailed it. I wonder why their think tanks haven’t thought of this solution. The Rwanda approach is even more feasible than this 1 in one out plan. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by deept(m): 2:06pm On Aug 24, 2025 |
ReesheesuKnack:Funny how they had all the answers until they got into government, then they became clueless. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 4:10pm On Aug 24, 2025*. Modified: 7:06pm On Aug 24, 2025 |
Cyberknight:💯 It's not even just the immigration issue, the Zeitgeist is one of growing anger at a perceived 2 tier system - taxes, law and order, freedom of speech etc- which is being symbolised online by cases like Lucy Connolly, the pulling down of the St George's flag, grooming gangs etc The new proposals are welcome and sound very reasonable, but I agree with you that once again Labour appears reactive. It looks like they lacked the political will until their hands were forced by the asylum protests and the court injunction on the Epping hotel. There are still some roadblocks ahead though even if they manage to fast track the asylum appeals process (which is much needed). The top countries for asylum claims e.g. Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, have no returns agreement with the UK. Even Pakistan!! currently refuses to take back its citizens. So even if the claimants exhaust their appeal rights, what next if they can't be removed to their countries of origin? They might lose their asylum accommodation, but will they then be detained indefinitely, turfed out into the underground world on the streets? |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 4:36pm On Aug 24, 2025 |
ReesheesuKnack:Lol @ the bolded. A France processing centre could work in theory as we did something very similar for Ukrainian refugees where we processed them in mainland Europe before they were given visas to the UK. However I suspect that France would veto any such plans as it's in their interest for more migrants to transit through France en route to Dover, instead of France bearing the responsibility and costs to house and provide for them while their claims are being processed. Also, if this system worked, then other EU countries could establish similar processing centres further up the migrant travel route - most likely in Greece or Italy where they begin their EU journey- to prevent them making their way on to Germany, France etc. I wonder if there is a legal reason why EU countries haven't yet done this - or perhaps it's just a case of western Europe being too "soft". The Tories already tried Bibby Stockholm and the human rights groups and lawyers had a field day - their case strengthened by an outbreak of Legionella and the death of an asylum seeker on board. I don't think Labour would be brave enough to try this again. Furthermore, what happens to the failed asylum seekers in France? France won't be able to return them to Afghanistan for example, nor would they want them to remain in France. The migrants will be more desperate to risk it all to cross the channel to the UK - so what do we do - detain them indefinitely? We will ultimately need a system like the US where we can remove them to a 3rd country like Rwanda, (US is sending migrants to Uganda, El Salvador, and any country that will accept them in return for cash/favours) - but that won't work here due to the ECHR. 99 problems....🥴 |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Jamesclooney: 9:03pm On Aug 24, 2025*. Modified: 12:52am On Aug 25, 2025 |
@cyberknight Great quote! And that’s what US voters are realising with Trump’s falling ratings and increasing unpopularity. After the overly aggressive immigration policies, what else can they offer? Where’s the real substance? Tariffs? Cancelling DEI? Lol Western liberals need to wake up and smell the coffee. They are fighting a losing issue. Starmer needs to smarten up; ECHR or not, no one is buying it. Just stop the flow. Desperate times call for desperate measures. And he has exercised extreme measures in the past. Last year during the riots, to his credit, the far right thugs got convicted in a matter of days. Did courts not open over the weekend to expeditiously hear cases? Where there is a will there is a way! Even if not for the average UK citizen or legal resident who are facing an affordability crisis, NHS waiting lists, and rising unemployment, then do it for self-preservation. The far right is on the march and will take over power in next general election. Why not blunt that attack by addressing the majority of voters’ concerns about the boats, and then fight the remaining battles on growing the economy, foreign policy, and other issues, instead of letting the far-right dominate with their one trick pony of immigration? (Granted reversing the tide of legal immigration is still another hot button issue, but that is separate from the boats and far less popular than stopping the boats). There is nothing immoral or wrong in saying the country can no longer take in new people crossing the Channel. It is not possible to take care of every starving person in the world. People in Nigeria are suffering with all the APC shenanigans (hyperinflation, kidnappings & killings, brazen corruption etc.) but unfortunately not everyone can japa to UK or be helped in one way or another. The same logic should be applied here. Focus on the citizens and legal residents who are struggling with rising costs instead of housing new arrivals in hotels. The ECHR cannot force a government to house people if there is no money. Wake up, Labour Party. You’re our only hope because I cannot vote Conservative or Reform. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 12:33pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
Zahra29:Another attempt at deviation. So you said most opposition to your views here is angled on you being a woman and when asked to expatiate, you try everything to deviate it. It's not difficult to see how people paint narratives and lean into stereotypes. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 12:44pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
jedisco:It is funny, isn’t it? It was surprising to see someone who was so adamant about not seeing/understanding why people were speaking out against being targeted during the riots on the basis of their race (instead choosing to shift the issue entirely to “underlying causes” despite all the evidence that race was the core driver of the riots), suddenly begin to hallucinate about being targeted on the basis of her gender despite the lack of any of evidence of that, despite repeated calls to provide such evidence. I guess the people who frequently pat themselves on the back about being ‘objective’ and attack others as ‘emotional’, often really are just projecting. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 12:46pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
Jamesclooney:Hehe... so much ado. It'd be alright in the end Labour dropped the ball on this and it wasn't difficult to predict. They believed their electoral narrative. The opposition speaks against anything the ruling party does- the ultimate downside of tribal politics . However, they should have a clear-headed team working on policy. It's quite clear to anyone who has seen immigration from both ends that the tide would only continue (and get larger) if there was no deterrent. They could have piloried the conservatives but still used the Rwanda scheme while creating safe means to apply. With the cost if living crises, it's virtually impossible to convince anyone to accept tax rises when they feel those coming via boats are given a free pass. The next quagmire awaiting them is their inability to raise government revenue while also rapidly cutting legal migration (and likely growth). Ultimately, Rachel would break some of her pledges. All said, in a system like the UK, I'd much rather Farage as PM than be influencing policy on the sidelines. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 12:55pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
Goodenoch:True... the way people create narratives in their head and act based on those stereotypes. If you're going to accuse a group, then have some evidence at least. People have even asked- just point to posts of folks disagreeing with you cos you're a woman, yet nothing. It's just multiple attempts at deviation or one stereotype after another. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 1:35pm On Aug 25, 2025*. Modified: 2:59pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
jedisco:This issue about those coming via boat is much deeper than what we all know and the politicians including those on the sidelines know it’s not as direct as everyone thinks. I just laugh at all the ideas being thrown here and there. This country can’t survive without those coming via boats and it’s a whole very long value chain that’s a different conversation altogether. The day any govt irrespective of party truly finds a way without those folks, in just hours it will cease but for now it’s a nice political tool for anyone eyeing Downing Street! For me as a tax payer I just look away! This country is too large even if they remove those folks from the hotels they will always find a way or place to house them so is it that wherever they place them people will continue to go wherever they are to protest? It remains to be seen. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 2:52pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
jedisco:Lol, I literally didn't say that, but it's okay, I know you and BadEnoch live for twisting my words. You'll be alright, I hope. I don't have to deviate, I'm simply not compelled to oblige your fatuous,negative comments. I don't go on and on about you, prodding you weeks later to "expatiate", e.g. Why you stereotyped the local man as racist. The same way you went on and on, interrogating me about my apparent Windrush heritage, not because you were genuinely interested, but because you were desperate to find an attack angle. It's a bit obsessive tbh, try and find something else to occupy you. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by gabiomoesu: 2:55pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
brine:Hey bro. Sorry for sending this here, PM doesn’t seem to be working. Just to update you. I’ve opened my company, created the business address, appointed a director, created work emails and phone number, and also registered for PAYE and Corporation Tax. Also, will start receiving payments for services very soon. I wanted to ask you a couple of important questions: - How did you handle the application for a sponsor licence? Did they come to visit your place? I’m using a virtual address, so I’m wondering how to deal with verification checks if they want to visit. - About the business plan, how should I go about writing one at this stage? Thanks in advance for your help brother. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by oluwaleokey: 3:02pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
oluwaleokey:For the record: I followed some of the advice shared here, and honestly, it worked like magic. They are now reaching out to me. several calls, apologies, and even prompt responses to my emails from different quarters. I can’t help but wonder what went wrong initially, but I’ll leave that to mystery. What matters is that I’ve now been assured I’ll be credited within 10 working days. I’m tempted to commend their services, but I’ll hold off until the funds actually hit my account, since the process is still ongoing. I just thought to update everyone here. Thank you all for the inputs, it were truly helpful. Now, let me sit back with an iced Coca-Cola and some Gala while waiting for the funds. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 5:07pm On Aug 25, 2025*. Modified: 7:08pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
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| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 6:53pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
Zahra29:Hopefully his minion tells him not to derail the thread any further |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by brine(m): 9:29pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
gabiomoesu:That's awesome! Will you be registering for VAT? I registered for VAT and I would suggest registering for VAT if you haven't. gabiomoesu:No, they didn't come to visit. I used my house address. I'm not sure if it's advisable to use a virtual address but I guess it depends on the nature of your business. If your application raises any concerns, it could lead to delays, and they may either visit your office location or schedule an online meeting with you and your authorizing officer. If possible, I’d recommend avoiding a virtual address. Yes, you can start writing the business plan now as you'll need to include that with your application. You'd write the business plan as if you wanted to pitch your idea to investors to invest in your business. Try to include market analysis and financial projection amongst others in your business plan. There are several examples online and here's a guide that you might find useful https://getsling.com/blog/restaurant-business-plan/ |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Bumzz00: 10:16am On Aug 26, 2025 |
Hi Everyone, I need advise from gurus and well experienced people please. I currently work in a local NHS with an annual income of £29907 before tax, due to increase to £33000 before tax in few months. I currently do not spend a penny on transportation with free staff bus available to and fro work and i enjoy as much flexibility as i wish to have with a daily commute of about 30 mins to and fro. I save quite a good amount monthly and spend even more less on feeding and housing cost about £700-£800 monthly. I recently got a job offer in central London with a salary of £42000 before tax (a more senior but similar role as my current). By my rough calculation transportation monthly will cost me roughly £607.42 monthly excluding feeling and other misllc and daily commute of about 3hrs to and fro Now i am confused if i should take the offer or not. Saying Local or commuting to the city. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 11:02am On Aug 26, 2025 |
Bumzz00:This is a bit tricky but at the end of the day besides costs what does the new job really offer you? Does it offer better career advancement prospects? Do a cost benefit analysis and decide! Making a decision based on cost alone at times may see you missing out on the bigger picture! I don’t want to be in your shoes honestly and I pray you make the right decision, cheers! |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Racheal45: 11:36am On Aug 26, 2025 |
ReesheesuKnack:Sorry to ask Can immigrant use boat from France to uk Is that possible Have not heard of that |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jagbasneh(m): 1:46pm On Aug 26, 2025 |
Bumzz00:Look at the pro and con of the new job compare to the local NHS Job, if the new job have no advantage over the old one, mate stick with the old one. LONDON cost of living no be ur mate oooo. If not for my job that still hold me in London, i for don move to outside London since |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 2:37pm On Aug 26, 2025 |
Bumzz00:Stay in your current role, unless there are compelling reasons why that other one is better, beyond finances. For an increase of 9k salary with added transport cost of 600+, my rough mental back-of-napkin math says you’ll actually be keeping less of your pay when you factor in the incidental expenses that come with working in London. When you factor in the time you’ll spend commuting, you’re definitely earning quite a bit less per hour and losing time you could have spent upskilling and preparing to get a job with a much more substantial salary increase whether in London or out. I recently had a similar dilemma (also a London role, and while it a substantial increase from what I was earning, when I factored transport + commuting in, the net increase was not worth it for me). Three months later I got my current role; still in London but much substantially higher pay than the previous offer and with a lower commuting requirement. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by bigtt76(f): 5:17pm On Aug 26, 2025 |
£607.42 per month on transport is like £7290 per year which when you deduct from your annual salary would almost be equal to what you would get with the increase. If you think the difference in the two salaries after transport is deducted would be worth it, then go for it. Else look at the option of moving closer to your work area or buying a car to see if it cuts down the expense which I doubt it would. Senior role comes with more wahala sha 🤭 Bumzz00: |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Nobody: 6:32pm On Aug 26, 2025 |
Hello guy, please help me make sense of this message from my landlord., quoted below, Is he trying to scam us ? |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Nobody: 6:32pm On Aug 26, 2025*. Modified: 7:03am On Aug 27, 2025 |
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| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ReesheesuKnack: 7:32pm On Aug 26, 2025 |
rock86:The refund is backdated to 2023. In 2023, you had not even applied for a UK visa. Infact, in that 2023, you probably hadn’t considered japa-ing to the UK. How then are you eligible for refund? A refund covering a period you were in Africa? Make it make sense |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 8:52pm On Aug 26, 2025 |
ReesheesuKnack:To be fair to our dear senior nurse, it appears the message was a direct copy of what was sent to him (presumably by his landlord) and the message acknolwedges some of the recipients might not have been tenants from Dec 2023. Rock86, you stay in a HMO, right? The rule is that landlords are liable to pay for council tax for HMOs but some get the tenants to pay instead. It appears your landlord has been caught (I doubt they volunteered to begin paying as they seem to be implying), and the council is now billing them and refunding you. You don't have any obligation to pay them a penny out of it and there's nothing they can do to get you to pay them anything. Practically though, the fact that you'd be paying council tax yourself may have influenced your rent being lower, and you may also want to be mindful of the relationship (they might not be able to force you to pay but you probably don't want to be feuding with your landlord), so you may want to chuck a few quid their way as a goodwill gesture. Here's a similar scenario: https://www.justanswer.co.uk/law/pyz62-lived-hmo-paid-council-tax-directly.html |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Cyberknight: 7:09am On Aug 27, 2025 |
Jamesclooney:This. Fully aware of the most salient practical difficulties in withdrawing from the ECHR, especially the way it'll affect Northern Ireland (ECHR is embedded in the Good Friday Agreement and the EU-UK Cooperation Agreement), but this current open borders policy for people smugglers is unsustainable from all standpoints and it's truly mind-boggling that all recent governments have been allowing it to continue. Ultimately if Labour doesn't get a grip on this, then Reform, which is happily cutting and pasting from the US playbook, will likely be the ones to do something, and one can easily imagine the nightmare of having the UK's version of ICE on the streets, carrying out racialised immigration enforcement amongst a migrant population with no physical evidence of immigration status now that BRPs are gone, with the UK papers running articles about black and brown legal residents or UK citizens or ILR holders ending up in Somalia or Eritrea or exported to the 21st century version of pre-colonial Australia. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(mod): 7:12am On Aug 27, 2025 |
rock86:More of this from you again I will ban you from this section. Nobody insulted you, they are only trying to answer your question and all you could do is to insult them? |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by gabiomoesu: 9:55am On Aug 27, 2025*. Modified: 11:14pm On Sep 01, 2025 |
brine:Many thanks for your response, brother. As for the address, I’ve been using the virtual address I purchased throughout the process, since I don’t want to bother the kind person who agreed to be my director. That's what I've used for my companies house, to set up PAYE etc. LOL. I did consider using my home address like you did, but I was worried it might raise concerns with the Home Office, since that same address would also appear on my CoS. How come that didn’t trouble you in your case? As for the company plan, thanks for the link, I’ll start working on it ASAP! Edit: Brine, sorry to bother you bro. Just thought I'd call your attention to this incase you missed it. |
| Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by FreakyNasty642: 10:41am On Aug 27, 2025 |
Hello house, What's the best mortgage advisor to use, free or paid ? Cheers. |
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