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Goke7:
It’s a foretaste of what is still in the offing when Reform gets into Downing Street though the blow back will eventually regulate it. The current template in the US is what has actually emboldened every thing, will be interesting to see how the midterms elections go next year to see whether things can still go in the reverse if not then we are in it finally for the long ride.

Trump knows he is fuccckked in the mid terms

That's why the Republican governors are redistricting and gerrymandering to lessen the impact
Who does mid cycle redistricting for goodness sakes?

California has led the way and other dem govs will also push for mid cycle redistricting and ultimately, 2026 will be fight to finish

If the economy is totally broken by then

It will be a no brainer

justwise:
Cynical part of me wants Reform to win the next GE and start deporting illegal immigrants and stop the boat, close all asylum centres and stop all foreign aids

What is happening in America right now will be nothing compare to what this country will experience, demonstrations and unrest will be a daily thing, many work-shy and benefit scroungers will have nothing else to moan about.

This need to happen before this country wake up to the danger of Reform political party.

Always said I want Reform to win- some lessons need to be learned twice. Farage would likely go out of his way to be brutal mainly by limiting settlement pathways but wouldn't be surprised immigration actually rises under a Reform government just like it did with B.Jo. When the rioting scroungers today get their benefits cut under Reform, their tune will change.

Its quite interesting whenever I hear far-right protesters speak. Within seconds, the tone rings familiar- I know this cohort like the back of my hand. Reminds me during the last riot when Nigerian folks in my community were scared. Na me dey ginja dem to forget that cohort. Na my customers.

Eitherway, it's likely that Labour in a bid to stave off Reform will do everything to cut legal migration futher creating a drag on the economy. Reform might come in and do some performance politics while ultimately increasing migration. Economics no get bias.
One thing I've always asked- would those protesting today have an issue if we double the number of migrants but remove the right to settlement i.e create a servile class?

[quote author=jedisco post=136716164]Always said I want Reform to win- some lessons need to be learned twice. Farage would likely go out of his way to be brutal mainly by limiting settlement pathways but wouldn't be surprised immigration actually rises under a Reform government just like it did with B.Jo. When the rioting scroungers today get their benefits cut under Reform, their tune will change.

Its quite interesting whenever I hear far-right protesters speak. Within seconds, the tone rings familiar- I know this cohort like the back of my hand. Reminds me during the last riot when Nigerian folks in my community were scared. Na me dey ginja dem to forget that cohort. Na my customers.

Eitherway, it's likely that Labour in a bid to stave off Reform will do everything to cut legal migration futher creating a drag on the economy. Reform might come in and do some performance politics while ultimately increasing migration. Economics no get bias.
One thing I've always asked- would those protesting today have an issue if we double the number of migrants but remove the right to settlement i.e create a servile class?[/quote]

God will bless you for the bolded
Overall, the post from top to bottom was well articulated

That said, two things

1. We ALL KNOW that for segments of these communities (far right white folks) what they don't like is to see people they THINK they are better and above, do better than them or are in positions where they think it's exclusively for them

That's one....

2. More and more rich and poor white racist priiks have been advocating for the "Dubai Model"

You know a lot of brits have been going there and back and they seem to like how the Nepalese and Bangladeshi et al are all in a state of perpetual servitude with no levers to climb up the ladder

That's what they want in the UK
A perpetual underclass of black and brown ppl serving them

When the elite were bringing the Pakistani village uneducated and unexposed people to come work their factories as servants and all, if they had known that their kids and grand kids will rise to the top of the British society (some of them. not all)
Maybe they wouldn't have
Or at least amended the laws to prevent that

But it's too late like this

That said

Drastic cut to legal and illegal migration can still be achieved without harming economic growth
That is the fact of the matter

But demonising productive immigrants who then get frustrated and leave the country wont bode well for the country either

Goke7:
Well said, the Latinos in particular were the ones who made Trump win and funny enough they are the ones bearing the brunt now with the mass deportation spree. 😂 Despite Trump and his gang raining racial abuses on them during the campaign they thought they were being smart in avoiding another black president. Now some republican states are redistricting their congressional maps to ensure Latino votes are more suppressed for future elections.

The so called proponents of freedom of speech are always the most intolerant people you can ever find anywhere on this earth. Their own speech is what they protect not others.

Oh man!! i enjoy watching clips of them crying their eyes out as their love ones are taken away by ICE, i also go out of my way to search for clips of white farmers moaning about how their businesses are closing down as the immigrant farm workers are all gone, some selling off their farm equipment to pay off loans.

Then you hear things like this from them....i voted for Trump but..., i voted for Trump because i thought he was going to ....

RodgersAkpafu:
That said

Drastic cut to legal and illegal migration can still be achieved without harming economic growth
That is the fact of the matter

But demonising productive immigrants who then get frustrated and leave the country wont bode well for the country either

Leave the country and go where?

Meanwhile guys I hear there will be protest in London on sep 13 and we don’t know whether it will spread nationwide so be careful out there!

This country matter don reach prayer and fasting level 😂

jedisco:
Always said I want Reform to win- some lessons need to be learned twice. Farage would likely go out of his way to be brutal mainly by limiting settlement pathways but wouldn't be surprised immigration actually rises under a Reform government just like it did with B.Jo. When the rioting scroungers today get their benefits cut under Reform, their tune will change.

Its quite interesting whenever I hear far-right protesters speak. Within seconds, the tone rings familiar- I know this cohort like the back of my hand. Reminds me during the last riot when Nigerian folks in my community were scared. Na me dey ginja dem to forget that cohort. Na my customers.

Eitherway, it's likely that Labour in a bid to stave off Reform will do everything to cut legal migration futher creating a drag on the economy. Reform might come in and do some performance politics while ultimately increasing migration. Economics no get bias.
One thing I've always asked- would those protesting today have an issue if we double the number of migrants but remove the right to settlement i.e create a servile class?

Farage is not really against immigration per say. he is against poor immigrants from certain part of the world just like Trump.

Farage get paid 40K by an organisation called Nomad Capitalist , a company that helps the super rich move to other countries in order to reduce their tax bills.

Yes you are right Labour will be punished into making some knee jerk decisions so as to turn the table on Reform and aunty Kemi.

Goke7:
Meanwhile guys I hear there will be protest in London on sep 13 and we don’t know whether it will spread nationwide so be careful out there!

This country matter don reach prayer and fasting level 😂

Any British flags on your street yet?

Jamesclooney:
Leave the country and go where?

Well,

Canada amd Australia have been taking immigrants who hitherto used to live here in Britain.

If not that I really like this country...
Me sef for don port as the others were porting

justwise:
Farage is not really against immigration per say. he is against poor immigrants from certain part of the world just like Trump.

Farage get paid 40K by an organisation called Nomad Capitalist , a company that helps the super rich move to other countries in order to reduce their tax bills.

Yes you are right Labour will be punished into making some knee jerk decisions so as to turn the table on Reform and aunty Kemi.

That nomad capitalism guy (Henderson)
The one who renounced American citizenship, have like over 6 kpali and doesn't believe in paying taxes?

No wonder!
Show me your friend (or in this case donor)
and I'll show you (Farage) who you are

Zahra29:
This I completely agree with.

The real mystery is how Labour can have a 150 seat majority - the largest since Blair - and just 1 year from the GE, they are trailing behind Reform, a fringe party, in the polls. It's bananas and completely unprecedented.

Like I said earlier, there's still time and hope, but Labour really need to get their act together fast - they won't really be able to blame anyone else but themselves if they lose the next GE.

What will be your advice to Labour if they are reading your post right now? I mean a policy that if implemented will be a game changer?

RodgersAkpafu:
That nomad capitalism guy (Henderson)
The one who renounced American citizenship, have like over 6 kpali and doesn't believe in paying taxes?

No wonder!
Show me your friend (or in this case donor)
and I'll show you (Farage) who you are

Yup.

justwise:
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Any British flags on your street yet?

Yes o and even on mini roundabouts here I think say na new design I no know say na far right matter o

Aunty kemi na my MP so my case critical gan 😂

RodgersAkpafu:
Well,

Canada amd Australia have been taking immigrants who hitherto used to live here in Britain.

If not that I really like this country...
Me sef for don port as the others were porting

Just out of curiosity, what are the open pathways for Canada? From what I understand most of the visa routes have been tightened. Even the student visa routes.

justwise:
Yup.

These are the kind of people that fund and push reform

And the dumb masses think reform is on their side ?

People who wanna destroy institutions and in its ashes, create a pseudo oligarchy?

People can't see

Jamesclooney:
Just out of curiosity, what are the open pathways for Canada? From what I understand most of the visa routes have been tightened. Even the student visa routes.

Well, as challenging as it is. the express entry is still running
Companies seldom sponsor tho, but that's for the very good ones and all

As for Australia, not so familiar with that terrain
But doctors have been trying their luck there too

Goke7:
Yes o and even on mini roundabouts here I think say na new design I no know say na far right matter o

Aunty kemi na my MP so my case critical gan😂

Ahhhh

RodgersAkpafu:
Britain wont get to that
I really hope so

Because if Britain toes America path

It will be disastrous

Your faith in Britain is very admirable.

Jamesclooney:
Just out of curiosity, what are the open pathways for Canada? From what I understand most of the visa routes have been tightened. Even the student visa routes.

If you’re in the health sector you may have a chance. Experts like Jedisco can tell you more!

You know a lot of brits have been going there and back and they seem to like how the Nepalese and Bangladeshi et al are all in a state of perpetual servitude with no levers to climb up the ladder

That's what they want in the UK
A perpetual underclass of black and brown ppl serving them

@RodgersAkpafu, you’re so right with this submission, and that’s why any govt can’t stop those coming by boats. This is actually the immigrants they want in this country, but citizens do not understand

RodgersAkpafu:
Well, as challenging as it is. the express entry is still running
Companies seldom sponsor tho, but that's for the very good ones and all

As for Australia, not so familiar with that terrain
But doctors have been trying their luck there too

Canada FSW EE was already difficult before, which made a lot of people choose the UK instead (the Nigerian contingent of the Boriswave). I can only imagine how few people will qualify now. Even with those who can speak French, the numbers will be tiny compared to those facing ILR being pulled from under their feet before they qualify in 2028/29 and so on. Lastly, Canadian job market sucks!

Goke7:
You know a lot of brits have been going there and back and they seem to like how the Nepalese and Bangladeshi et al are all in a state of perpetual servitude with no levers to climb up the ladder

That's what they want in the UK
A perpetual underclass of black and brown ppl serving them

@RodgersAkpafu, you’re so right with this submission, and that’s why any govt can’t stop those coming by boats. This is actually the immigrants they want in this country, but citizens do not understand

You get it
those that will do deliveroo

Raalsalghul:
Your faith in Britain is very admirable.

..

It is

justwise:
What will be your advice to Labour if they are reading your post right now? I mean a policy that if implemented will be a game changer?

💯

Not just one policy, but I would advocate for a strategy overhaul including:

1. Comms Department - They need to find an effective way to SHOUT OUT their accomplishments and control the narrative. Right now, no one really knows what they have done or are doing.

2. Appoint a dynamic spokesperson/ spin doctor (remember Alastair Campbell?) who is media savvy, has lots of political experience/ nous and can connect with the masses.

3. Find some quick wins to address the key issues that people are most concerned about. Polls show that the 2 most critical issues affecting even Labour supporters are:

- Immigration: Start delivering effective, easy/quick measures to reduce boat crossings and net migration.

The media is already shouting that 1000 asylum seekers arrived by boat yesterday, the 1st day of Shabana's job as Home Sec.
Labour is due to announce that they will rehouse asylum seekers into military sites/army barracks and close dozens of asylum hotels earlier than planned.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/07/military-sites-house-asylum-seekers-labour

This is another U-turn for Labour as they were against the idea last year, but if they implement it successfully it will stave off Reform's attack lines and help quell people's anger at the perception that asylum seekers are hopping off a boat and into all inclusive 3* hotels, while a growing number of British citizens are homeless or living in rundown hostels.

- Economy, including taxes: I know it is not easy but Reeves desperately needs to find a way in the Autumn Budget to take the pressure off the middle class.
Tackle welfare reform - fairly and compassionately - but those who can work should be firmly supported back into work, while there should be incentives to encourage working people and foster the message that work pays.

They need to find ways to boost growth and productivity, but at the same time be brave enough to go after big corporations (see EUs actions on this) and the very wealthy e.g. non doms who are not paying their fair share of tax.

The above will give Labour some breathing room while they advance other policy areas.

Jamesclooney:
Canada FSW EE was already difficult before, which made a lot of people choose the UK instead (the Nigerian contingent of the Boriswave). I can only imagine how few people will qualify now. Even with those who can speak French, the numbers will be tiny compared to those facing ILR being pulled from under their feet before they qualify in 2028/29 and so on. Lastly, Canadian job market sucks!

So it’s the uk job market that does not suck? Are you aware of the mass layoffs going on in the uk or is it because the media isn’t reporting it. Even the US is experiencing serious job losses and you think the Uk is insulated? Canada that is even silently poaching away so many care workers with their Express category healthcare draws before we even mention doctors and other allied professionals. Your idea that few people qualify is not true not with many that I know that are already on their way and yes from the Boriswave cohort.

justwise:
What will be your advice to Labour if they are reading your post right now? I mean a policy that if implemented will be a game changer?

Just seen this clip from Dame Emily Thornberry,one of Labour's most senior MPs , which nicely encapsulates the current situation and what Labour needs to do.

(Basically stop gaslighting and start listening to the public)

We were given a huge gift by the British public of a huge majority. But now we are on 20% in the polls.

We have to stop making mistakes and start listening.

And we must be prepared for the fight of our lives against Farage. pic.twitter.com/i9nHFr9TzQ

— Emily Thornberry (@EmilyThornberry) September 7, 2025

Zahra29:
Tackle welfare reform - fairly and compassionately - but those who can work should be firmly supported back into work, while there should be incentives to encourage working people and foster the message that work pays.
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Removing "anxiety" and "depressive disorders" as grounds for claiming would be a good start.
Labour can somewhat make the bitter pill of tax rises coming in November easier if it makes a visible effort to cut major expenditure somewhere.
If only the tribal Labour MPs who sank the last push would understand that this is now a crisis for the government.

Cyberknight:
Removing "anxiety" and "depressive disorders" as grounds for claiming would be a good start.
Labour can somewhat make the bitter pill of tax rises coming in November easier if it makes a visible effort to cut major expenditure somewhere.
If only the tribal Labour MPs who sank the last push would understand that this is now a crisis for the government.

In a country where so much depends on welfare this is almost impossible! The backlash no government can cope with. The waters has been tested already and the outcome has never been pleasant. Tax rises will surely continue to accommodate welfare payments.

Goke7:
In a country where so much depends on welfare this is almost impossible! The backlash no government can cope with. The waters has been tested already and the outcome has never been pleasant. Tax rises will surely continue to accommodate welfare payments.

This can be done AFTER tax hikes/reform

Estroller:
https://www.nairaland.com/7534564/living-uk-propertymortgage-related/72

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Goke7:
In a country where so much depends on welfare this is almost impossible! The backlash no government can cope with. The waters has been tested already and the outcome has never been pleasant. Tax rises will surely continue to accommodate welfare payments.

This is the biggest prob here, Universal credit pays better than many 9-5 jobs, recently i get to know from a friend about what he called medical benefit, he claims it and still work full time. No govt dare touch the benefit system and survive the next GE.