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Zahra29:
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Not just one policy, but I would advocate for a strategy overhaul including:

1. Comms Department - They need to find an effective way to SHOUT OUT their accomplishments and control the narrative. Right now, no one really knows what they have done or are doing.

2. Appoint a dynamic spokesperson/ spin doctor (remember Alastair Campbell?) who is media savvy, has lots of political experience/ nous and can connect with the masses.

3. Find some quick wins to address the key issues that people are most concerned about. Polls show that the 2 most critical issues affecting even Labour supporters are:

- Immigration: Start delivering effective, easy/quick measures to reduce boat crossings and net migration.

The media is already shouting that 1000 asylum seekers arrived by boat yesterday, the 1st day of Shabana's job as Home Sec.
Labour is due to announce that they will rehouse asylum seekers into military sites/army barracks and close dozens of asylum hotels earlier than planned.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/07/military-sites-house-asylum-seekers-labour

This is another U-turn for Labour as they were against the idea last year, but if they implement it successfully it will stave off Reform's attack lines and help quell people's anger at the perception that asylum seekers are hopping off a boat and into all inclusive 3* hotels, while a growing number of British citizens are homeless or living in rundown hostels.

- Economy, including taxes: I know it is not easy but Reeves desperately needs to find a way in the Autumn Budget to take the pressure off the middle class.
Tackle welfare reform - fairly and compassionately - but those who can work should be firmly supported back into work, while there should be incentives to encourage working people and foster the message that work pays.

They need to find ways to boost growth and productivity, but at the same time be brave enough to go after big corporations (see EUs actions on this) and the very wealthy e.g. non doms who are not paying their fair share of tax.

The above will give Labour some breathing room while they advance other policy areas.

Reading these points you outlined is like reading opposition party manifesto, they sounds good but almost impossible to implement as a ruling party.

Implementing all you listed above may not save labour because majority of British public are listening to Farage's immigration rant at the moment just like in America.

justwise:
This is the biggest prob here, Universal credit pays better than many 9-5 jobs, recently i get to know from a friend about what he called medical benefit, he claims it and still work full time. No govt dare touch the benefit system and survive the next GE.

Welfare Benefits for any UK govt in power is touch and go

gabiomoesu:
Ah bros! I already did this since. I purchased a domain name from namecheap and have already created 2 email addresses using Zoho mail with the domain name for administrative purposes already, all with the help of chatgpt. Thanks for mentioning this brother.

Nice! I use namecheap and godaddy for domains as well

bigtt76:
Nice and insightful, been following this with keen interest.

1. Can I please ask where the initial funding for the registered would come from?
2. Can the business owner pre-fund the company from their private savings until it starts making profit?
3. How much would be ideal to pre-fund?

Thank you for your response in advance 🙌🏾🙏🏾

Yes, the initial funding can come from personal savings. That's where mine came in from and I think they wouldn't mind it coming from other sources as long as it's legit. So, it could be from another director, a gift from family or friends or a loan from the bank.

The ideal amount depends on your business running expenses and there's no specific amount stated by HO. In my opinion, I think it's just good to show funds that can keep the business running for at least 6 months(paying yourself and any other company expenses).

RodgersAkpafu:
That said

Drastic cut to legal and illegal migration can still be achieved without harming economic growth
That is the fact of the matter

But demonising productive immigrants who then get frustrated and leave the country wont bode well for the country either

Rupert Lowe MP says: Indefinite Leave to Remain does not benefit British people.

To reverse the Boriswave, we must abolish ILR.

Na why I dey advocate as you dey use one leg they claim to be British than the oyinbo also use the other leg advocate for a working Nigeria. But what do I know ? I dey sideline dey read Youna intellectual submissions.

Goke7:
Meanwhile guys I hear there will be protest in London on sep 13 and we don’t know whether it will spread nationwide so be careful out there!

This country matter don reach prayer and fasting level 😂

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RodgersAkpafu:
I can feel the tensions on the street in my city...

All the wahala these elite are formenting for reasons best known to them
When e burst
Their eye go clear

You too dey fear sef. No be man you be. If anything sup call popo dem go show asap

lavida001:
You too dey fear sef. No be man you be. If anything sup call popo dem go show asap

I no fear
im just saying it's tense
Anyone wey try me
They collect

lavida001:
Rupert Lowe MP says: Indefinite Leave to Remain does not benefit British people.

To reverse the Boriswave, we must abolish ILR.

Na why I dey advocate as you dey use one leg they claim to be British than the oyinbo also use the other leg advocate for a working Nigeria. But what do I know ? I dey sideline dey read Youna intellectual submissions.

Lowe is a mugu

Who takes em seriously

justwise:
Reading these points you outlined is like reading opposition party manifesto, they sounds good but almost impossible to implement as a ruling party.

Implementing all you listed above may not save labour because majority of British public are listening to Farage's immigration rant at the moment just like in America.

Lol, but Labour promised this and much more during the GE.

It's the real/perceived failure to deliver on their promises that is fuelling discontent and the rise of other parties.

RodgersAkpafu:
I no fear
im just saying it's tense
Anyone wey try me
They collect

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Cyberknight:
Removing "anxiety" and "depressive disorders" as grounds for claiming would be a good start.
Labour can somewhat make the bitter pill of tax rises coming in November easier if it makes a visible effort to cut major expenditure somewhere.
If only the tribal Labour MPs who sank the last push would understand that this is now a crisis for the government.

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Those Labour MPs who want an unlimited welfare state should perhaps consider moving over to Corbyn'_s new party or the Greens.

McFadden has replaced Kendall as Work and Pensions Sec and he's meant to be more right and also a Blairite, so it appears that Labour is gearing up for Welfare Cuts Showdown 2.0.

Zahra29:
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Those Labour MPs who want an unlimited welfare state should perhaps consider moving over to Corbyn'_s new party or the Greens.

McFadden has replaced Kendall as Work and Pensions Sec and he's meant to be more right and also a Blairite, so it appears that Labour is gearing up for Welfare Cuts Showdown 2.0.

How do you explain to the British people that you are cutting welfare when you dont increase the tax the rich pay or the loopholes they explicitly exploit?

That right there is the trouble

Thank you for the response and I appreciate it all. I had to ask just so one can avoid all these tax roforofo going on now 🤭😂

brine:
Yes, the initial funding can come from personal savings. That's where mine came in from and I think they wouldn't mind it coming from other sources as long as it's legit. So, it could be from another director, a gift from family or friends or a loan from the bank.

The ideal amount depends on your business running expenses and there's no specific amount stated by HO. In my opinion, I think it's just good to show funds that can keep the business running for at least 6 months(paying yourself and any other company expenses).

lavida001:
Rupert Lowe MP says: Indefinite Leave to Remain does not benefit British people.

To reverse the Boriswave, we must abolish ILR.
Na why I dey advocate as you dey use one leg they claim to be British than the oyinbo also use the other leg advocate for a working Nigeria. But what do I know ? I dey sideline dey read Youna intellectual submissions.

Exactly how you should play it: both sides.

All these 'home is where you are' rhetorics doesn't apply in this decade.

Raalsalghul:
Exactly how you should play it: both sides.

All these 'home is where you are' rhetorics doesn't apply in this decade.

It’s gaining humongous momentum across the globe in Japan also South Africans are telling Zimbabwe to leave their hospitals

RodgersAkpafu:
How do you explain to the British people that you are cutting welfare when you dont increase the tax the rich pay or the loopholes they explicitly exploit?

That right there is the trouble

Labour is also being encouraged to come down harder on big corporations and the very wealthy e.g. non doms. When they were in opposition, they pushed hard for a windfall tax on oil and energy companies that were making huge profits due to the Ukraine war and other factors.

Cutting welfare is not a new thing. Majority of Brits want a fairer system where there is support for the sick and disabled, but at the same time they want those who are well enough to work to pay their fair share.

Back in 2010, Tories under Cameron promised to go after "benefit scroungers", (basically people living off benefits and refusing to work, or working cash in hand + benefits) and they went much further in cutting welfare than many expected.

So most people are used to the welfare state being restricted - it's mainly since Covid that the number of benefit claimants has exploded, hence the public outcry.

I see and hear Reform UK is gaining in the polls ahead of other parties. Can someone explain the what this poll rating mean in simple terms.
Reform has just 4 MPs in a 600 member-parliament; how does that make Farage a potential Prime Minister?
@Zahra, anyone?

luqken:
I see and hear Reform UK is gaining in the polls ahead of other parties. Can someone explain the what this poll rating mean in simple terms.
Reform has just 4 MPs in a 600 member-parliament; how does that make Farage a potential Prime Minister?
@Zahra, anyone?

It doesn't mean anything yet, it's simply a point-in- time indication of how the public might vote if the GE was held today. However the next GE is not for another 4 years.

It does have some significance for the government however, because if the polling trajectory continues, it is possible that Farage might be elected PM in 2029, or at least be in a position to form a coalition government.

MPs are debating the proposed ILR extension today.

https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/326/petitions-committee/news/209123/mps-will-debate-two-petitions-relating-to-the-qualifying-period-for-indefinite-leave-to-remain/

Raalsalghul:
Exactly how you should play it: both sides.

All these 'home is where you are' rhetorics doesn't apply in this decade.

So whose home it is actually? Are those who migrated from this country to places like Australia, South Africa or North America not allowed any longer see where they are currently as home anymore? Or it is only meant for folks like us not to call where we are home Abi or you will tell the windrush generation in this country not to see the uk as home anymore, I don’t understand!

Zahra29:
Labour is also being encouraged to come down harder on big corporations and the very wealthy e.g. non doms. When they were in opposition, they pushed hard for a windfall tax on oil and energy companies that were making huge profits due to the Ukraine war and other factors.

Cutting welfare is not a new thing. Majority of Brits want a fairer system where there is support for the sick and disabled, but at the same time they want those who are well enough to work to pay their fair share.

Back in 2010, Tories under Cameron promised to go after "benefit scroungers", (basically people living off benefits and refusing to work, or working cash in hand + benefits) and they went much further in cutting welfare than many expected.

So most people are used to the welfare state being restricted - it's mainly since Covid that the number of benefit claimants has exploded, hence the public outcry.

Again
How do you explain cutting the benefits without hammering rhe non doms and other rich prixks....

Zahra29:
Labour is also being encouraged to come down harder on big corporations and the very wealthy e.g. non doms. When they were in opposition, they pushed hard for a windfall tax on oil and energy companies that were making huge profits due to the Ukraine war and other factors.

Cutting welfare is not a new thing. Majority of Brits want a fairer system where there is support for the sick and disabled, but at the same time they want those who are well enough to work to pay their fair share.

Back in 2010, Tories under Cameron promised to go after "benefit scroungers", (basically people living off benefits and refusing to work, or working cash in hand + benefits) and they went much further in cutting welfare than many expected.

So most people are used to the welfare state being restricted - it's mainly since Covid that the number of benefit claimants has exploded, hence the public outcry.

For as long as people continue to lie that that they are sick and disabled no one will deny them their benefits and those expenses will continue to rise. People have really perfected the gaming of the system and no govt will ever go the whole length to stop anything except they want to incur more anger from the public.

There are actually deeper conversations on this benefit thing beyond people gaming the system that the govt will just allow things be if they even cut out some areas folks will just perfect their art of gaming the system in other areas where the benefits are still available so the number of claimants will continue to rise. What the govt should focus more heavily is to grow the economy and remove unnecessary barriers and regulations for people who are willing to work, do business and scale instead of fighting needless battles with folks who are not willing to be productive no matter what incentive you give

Zahra29:
MPs are debating the proposed ILR extension today.

https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/326/petitions-committee/news/209123/mps-will-debate-two-petitions-relating-to-the-qualifying-period-for-indefinite-leave-to-remain/

They are likely to extend it

Goke7:
So whose home it is actually? Are those who migrated from this country to places like Australia, South Africa or North America not allowed any longer see where they are currently as home anymore? Or it is only meant for folks like us not to call where we are home Abi or you will tell the windrush generation in this country not to see the uk as home anymore, I don’t understand!

Leave Nigerians let them be talking lmaooo

Goke7:
For as long as people continue to lie that that they are sick and disabled no one will deny them their benefits and those expenses will continue to rise. People have really perfected the gaming of the system and no govt will ever go the whole length to stop anything except they want to incur more anger from the public.

There are actually deeper conversations on this benefit thing beyond people gaming the system that the govt will just allow things be if they even cut out some areas folks will just perfect their art of gaming the system in other areas where the benefits are still available so the number of claimants will continue to rise. What the govt should focus more heavily is to grow the economy and remove unnecessary barriers and regulations for people who are willing to work, do business and scale instead of fighting needless battles with folks who are not willing to be productive no matter what incentive you give

The bolded is not accurate. George Osborne and IDS were very tough on welfare claimants in the early years of the last Tory government e.g introduction of rigourous checks and higher thresholds for disabled people to be able to claim PIP; a cap on household benefits ; 2 child benefit cap; mandatory job placements and daily job centre attendance; freeze on working-age benefits; criminalising benefit cheating such as claiming benefits and working cash in hand; bedroom tax for people living in bigger than needed council accommodation etc

The means are there if the will is strong enough, and the majority of the public want a fairer and more sustainable welfare system.

Zahra29:
The bolded is not accurate. George Osborne and IDS were very tough on welfare claimants in the early years of the last Tory government e.g introduction of rigourous checks and higher thresholds for disabled people to be able to claim PIP; a cap on household benefits ; 2 child benefit cap; mandatory job placements and daily job centre attendance; freeze on working-age benefits; criminalising benefit cheating such as claiming benefits and working cash in hand; bedroom tax for people living in bigger than needed council accommodation etc

The means are there if the will is strong enough, and the majority of the public want a fairer and more sustainable welfare system.

That was in the early years you say so what happened in the latter years of the same Torries govt and till now? Just like those coming into the country by boats what’s really going on in successive governments finding it almost impossible to address these issues, it’s obvious there are deeper conversations around these issues that are becoming no go areas cos like we say in naija ‘ I get am before no be property’ or is it that govt officials themselves are benefits scroungers too! Make it make sense please, it has actually gone beyond party lines

Goke7:
That was in the early years you say so what happened in the latter years of the same Torries govt and till now? Just like those coming into the country by boats what’s really going on in successive governments finding it almost impossible to address these issues, it’s obvious there are deeper conversations around these issues that are becoming no go areas cos like we say in naija ‘ I get am before no be property’ or is it that govt officials themselves are benefits scroungers too! Make it make sense please, it has actually gone beyond party lines

COVID mainly. Lots of people haven't returned back to work after the pandemic for various reasons, including a spike in mental health related conditions. Similarly, the boat crossings only became a big issue post COVID (and post Brexit).

Also from Boris onwards, the Tory government's administration fell off the rails and they lost their grip on many areas - economy, immigration, welfare, Brexit implementation etc

It doesn't mean that these areas can't be fixed/improved.

Zahra29:
COVID mainly. Lots of people haven't returned back to work after the pandemic for various reasons, including a spike in mental health related conditions. Similarly, the boat crossings only became a big issue post COVID (and post Brexit).

Also from Boris onwards, the Tory government's administration fell off the rails and they lost their grip on many areas - economy, immigration, welfare, Brexit implementation etc

It doesn't mean that these areas can't be fixed/improved.

Oh great, this looks more like it. It’s easier to destroy than to build. It will take a well drilled govt to rebuild especially post covid and Brexit which unfortunately nothing has started but unnecessary distractions everywhere which will only drag the nation backwards. Like I said in earlier post more focus should be more on growing the economy and improving the business environment for people who are willing to be productive. Other things will fall into place but for now let all the distractions continue since no one is serious enough to lead.

Zahra29:
MPs are debating the proposed ILR extension today.

https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/326/petitions-committee/news/209123/mps-will-debate-two-petitions-relating-to-the-qualifying-period-for-indefinite-leave-to-remain/

Oh, no wonder the Times ran an article about this issue this morning, just to keep the flames fanned.

Zahra29:
The bolded is not accurate. George Osborne and IDS were very tough on welfare claimants in the early years of the last Tory government e.g introduction of rigourous checks and higher thresholds for disabled people to be able to claim PIP; a cap on household benefits ; 2 child benefit cap; mandatory job placements and daily job centre attendance; freeze on working-age benefits; criminalising benefit cheating such as claiming benefits and working cash in hand; bedroom tax for people living in bigger than needed council accommodation etc

The means are there if the will is strong enough, and the majority of the public want a fairer and more sustainable welfare system.

Re the bolded: absolutely.
While Starmer did try to do something earlier, the lack of success seems to have led to paralysis, the government is clearly drifting, and on the back foot. When The Grauniad starts launching broadsides at a Labour government, then things are bleak indeed. Labour needs to get a grip because all this stumbling around in the dark is beginning to affect the image of the party and it's not too farfetched to say that if they mess up this term in government they could be out in the cold thereafter for a very long time indeed.

Zahra29:
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Those Labour MPs who want an unlimited welfare state should perhaps consider moving over to Corbyn'_s new party or the Greens.

McFadden has replaced Kendall as Work and Pensions Sec and he's meant to be more right and also a Blairite, so it appears that Labour is gearing up for Welfare Cuts Showdown 2.0.

They'd better get a move on then. Ultimately, the public mood is so febrile that the softly softly measured approach is all but dead. Each time I read in the papers that the government is "considering" or will be consulting upon doing something or the other, you feel like banging your head against the wall. Get in proper spin doctors, start hammering home positive language and talking up what you've done, break stuff, just be seen to doing everything to make headway, rather than ceding all the ground to the opposition.