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| “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by AbbaDiary(op): 3:18pm On Sep 10, 2025 |
“Send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi orders Female Member Out of The Church For This Reason. A recent video in which Pastor W.F Kumuyi of the Deeper Life Bible Church asked a female member out of the Church has resurfaced. This incident occurred during one of the ministrations of Pastor W.F Kumuyi at a Deeper Life organized Global Workers Conference. According to credible sources, the woman has both spoken ill of the Pastor’s late wife and negatively influenced other female members of the church; which is against what the denomination stands for. This article contains all there is to know about the incident. Continue reading here: https://medium.com/@abbasdiary01/send-her-out-pastor-kumuyi-orders-female-member-out-of-the-church-for-this-reason-69306b274d33 |
| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by Franklyspeakin: 3:21pm On Sep 10, 2025 |
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| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by neonly: 4:28pm On Sep 10, 2025 |
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| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:38pm On Sep 10, 2025 |
AbbaDiary:The building supposed to be the house of God not Kumuyi's house so nobody has the right to order anyone out of the house of God. That's why true Christians are taught to shun such ones {Matthew 18:17; Romans 16:17; Titus 3:10; 2John 10} we will not greet or talk to them but as for the premises it's God's house not man's! 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by ruggedtimi(m): 4:44pm On Sep 10, 2025 |
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| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by descartes400: 7:00pm On Sep 10, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:Congregation, Pastor MaxInDHouse has spoken ooh O hear! O hear! 1 Like
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| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by Truvelisback(m): 7:13pm On Sep 10, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:Oga, he has the right to send her out if has done something wrong or she is doing something that is irritating. Stop being over spiritual and hypocritical here. Jesus, sent out people who turned the house of God into a market place. I can't judge now because I can't tell what must have transpired that. I just wanted to know what she might have done that warrant that. 3 Likes |
| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:09pm On Sep 10, 2025 |
Truvelisback:Jesus sent out people turning the temple into a business center not critics in fact the critics had the same right as Jesus in the temple not those turning the place to a shopping mall. And for your information that's the old covenant, in the new covenant Jesus gave us rules on how to treat critics that is why i quoted Jesus and the apostles. The whole congregation not Kumuyi will come to an agreement and in such case the critic will be shunned because the house belongs to God not man! |
| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by damosky12(m): 9:10pm On Sep 10, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:You are just being an unnecessary trouble maker. To not keep company with the person definitely can include keeping them away from us. 1 Corinthians 5:10-13 [10]Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. [11]But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. [12]For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? [13]But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person. Stop being fault finding against churches. You're giving yourself to a wrong spirit. 1 Like |
| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by Truvelisback(m): 9:27pm On Sep 10, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:He has the right to do send her out if she has done something wrong or very offensive. You claimed that if it was JW, they would have stopped greeting and associating with her, isn't that a sin?  1 Like |
| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:27pm On Sep 10, 2025*. Modified: 9:54pm On Sep 10, 2025 |
damosky12:GOOD! Now you are ready to know what Kumuyi did wrong! What Paul said is in line with Jesus' words found in the Bible book of Matthew 18:15-17 It's a gradual process: First the accused must call the critic one on one as a fellow believer but if that doesn't work the next move. The accused must call another brother to go with him and settle the matter amicably but if it doesn't work then the next move. The two brothers will take the matter to the elders so it will be tabled before many believers and if this person still disagree with the body of elders then the whole congregation must shun the critic and stop talking to him just as first century Jews treat outcasts! Matthew 18:15-17 So it's not one man ordering another worshiper to be driven out of the place of worship that simply means the place belongs to him not Jesus if it belongs to Jesus we must follow his instructions to the details! |
| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:29pm On Sep 10, 2025 |
Truvelisback:Please quote Jesus because that's what he commanded us to do! Matthew 18:15-17 And that's exactly what his first century disciples did. Romans 16:17; 2John 10 We don't put laws into anyone's hand we follow Jesus' instructions strictly! 1 Like |
| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:34pm On Sep 10, 2025 |
descartes400:Please if you do call some people Pastor in your place of worship don't address me like that i'm just a Christian we don't use worldly religious titles among us! Matthew 23:8-10 |
| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by Truvelisback(m): 9:41pm On Sep 10, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:As a leader, he has the right to discipline her if she does something wrong. The same Bible is in line with that. |
| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:47pm On Sep 10, 2025 |
Truvelisback:Please quote where one man sends out another from the gathering of Christians because that's not what Jesus taught us! 1 Like |
| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by Truvelisback(m): 10:04pm On Sep 10, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:It is part of discipline. As leader, he has the right to discipline her if has done something wrong. Mind you, he may call her back |
| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by damosky12(m): 10:06pm On Sep 10, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:If you ever went to school, "Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person" is pellucid enough. Shelve this your long talk. What Paul said there is clear in that context enough. A church can put out anyone who inspires strife or sin. 1 Like |
| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:49pm On Sep 10, 2025 |
Truvelisback:Jesus supposed to be the leader not any man {Matthew 23:28-10} but it's OK you're talking about a Christendom Church not true Christian congregation that's following exactly what Jesus taught! 1 Like |
| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:54pm On Sep 10, 2025 |
damosky12:Paul didn't fabricate anything from his own head he is telling our brothers in first century Corinth what THEY not one man should do because he owns the building. It's the Elders of the church that should agree on what to do not just one man issuing orders!🤔 1 Like |
| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:29pm On Sep 10, 2025 |
Christianity was established with rules that Christ Jesus himself set for his disciples on how to approach matters involving a rebel! Matthew 18:15-17 Once we all shun the rebel {Romans 16:17} it will serve as punishment that the critic is no longer welcomed within the premises nobody will greet him/her not to talk of welcoming him/her in their homes! 2John 10 But let's take the matter the other way around as a man issued an order for the critic to be driven out of the premises if the critic has supporters who feels like the man issuing the order is guilty then the whole thing would lead to chaos and a fight would start between supporters of both parties. God forbid!  That's why Jesus' instructions is the best as we follow due process: The accused speak with the complainant alone if they come to an agreement case is settled. But if they can't then the accused must go to make peace with the complainant taking another fellow believer. If it still doesn't work then two more believers needs to see the complainant for peace to reign. If it still doesn't work then the body of elders in the congregation (church) must see to the matter and if the complainant still disagree with the elders of the church then it must be announced that such a person is no longer a member of the church! Matthew 18:15-17 He or she will not be forced out of the premises but no member should talk to him or her that's due process according to God's word not just one man issuing order as if he owns the church!😟 1 Like |
| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by bdon123(m): 3:53am On Sep 11, 2025 |
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| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by damosky12(m): 4:33am On Sep 11, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:Yet he, as the leader of the church, judged that the church should put out that person. He didn't ask any elder to discuss it. Why are so dogmatically adamant about something as lucid as this? Dribbling around something so clear? "Put out that wicked person." That was the way to break fellowship in that context. |
| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by Baronthecelebri(m): 5:36am On Sep 11, 2025 |
He has the right to send her out,if she has done something wrong and also influence other members. |
| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by Truvelisback(m): 6:18am On Sep 11, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:So, you don't have leaders in your kingdom hall? No rules and regulations, members just do the way they like withou any consequences for their actions. |
| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:45am On Sep 11, 2025 |
damosky12:The highlighted is what you need to look into critically. According to the report this woman (a member of the church) spoke badly about Kumuyi (a member of the church) so if Kumuyi is not the Alpha and Omega of the church but Christ Jesus then both of them needs to face a panel to be set by the elders of the church for both of them to table their differences it's after the elders of the church have concluded on the person who is found guilty that a decisive action must be taken against the guilty person. But before the matter gets to that stage Kumuyi who felt the woman did something bad against him must first humbly go and speak with his Christian sister and if she is still adamant then Kumuyi will take another brother along to plead with her if she still disagree then the matter will be tabled before the elders of the church it's after all this procedures that she will be disfellowshiped yet nobody should send her out of the church premises because it's also her father's house what members must do is stop talking or greeting her. Matthew 18:15-17; Romans 16:17; 2John 10 That's the theocratic way of handling matters not just taking side with Kumuyi because he owns the building! |
| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:54am On Sep 11, 2025 |
Truvelisback:Why do you think exjws can't attend any other churches or religion? We follow due process as stipulated by our Master Lord and King Christ Jesus. He said the one who felt offended must go and speak with the accused first to gain him or her back as a fellow believer did Kumuyi do that? You people don't know that the church is not one man's business where you can just wake up one day and sack your worker rather Christ Jesus is the head so if Kumuyi believes in Christ Jesus as Lord then he must follow the due process of handling issues according to what Jesus said. Paul was talking to the church and not just one man who feels he is the Alpha and Omega of the church so it's the elders of the church that must sit together to judge the matter not one man! 1Corinthans 5:13 |
| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:46am On Sep 11, 2025*. Modified: 8:21am On Sep 11, 2025 |
Baronthecelebri:You people don't know the difference between believers in Christ and those who has given themselves titles. Matthew 23:8-10 Do you think each person who has been spoken against by a member of his or her church has the right to order the complainant out of the house of God? Or are you saying only Kumuyi could do that as the Alpha and Omega of his own church? Come on! If it's the church of Christ and not church of Kumuyi then we must all follow due process as brothers and sisters under one Lord. Matthew 23:8 I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses, in our gathering no one is above another a small group called Governing Body are the ones teaching us what Christ Jesus commanded {Matthew 28:20} they are the Governing Body only when they meet together but after that meeting each of them is a member of the church outside because we must all carry our bags and go to preach and teach people living in our neighborhood. So if one of them did something wrong i as his brother has the right to correct him instantly {Galatians 2:11-14} because nobody is perfect {James 3:2} it's when they sit together as a BODY that whatever they conclude must not be questioned. Matthew 16:19 WHY? Because Jesus said he is the chairman of their meeting {Matthew 18:20} that's why Paul and Barnabas had to take serious matters to this BODY in Jerusalem {Act 15:1-2} and whatever that Body decides must be taken as coming from Christ Jesus who is the chairman of such a meeting because his presence is felt by the holy spirit! Act 15:28 That's true Christianity for you not where one man issues order as if he is Master over the faith of others! 2Corinthians 1:24 |
| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by AbbaDiary(op): 10:47am On Sep 13, 2025 |
I believe if you read the post a lot will b clarified. The woman actually replied and she said she was disappointed. I believe the sending out of the church is due to the fact that she has started influencing the members negatively MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:18am On Sep 13, 2025 |
AbbaDiary:Why is it that you people keep on shying away from the instructions Jesus gave his disciples? Is Kumuyi above Jesus' laws? Critics always have the reasons to cause confusion that is what Jesus foresaw before giving us the directives on how to purge such rebellious ones out of the gathering of faithful worshipers. Note that the woman must have first spoken against Kumuyi her fellow worshiper so it's when Kumuyi got to know of it that he took that drastic action but that's an unchristian approach. He should try to speak with her in person which surely will not work so the second step which is calling another brother to see speak with this woman and wisely someone who is closer to that woman by expressing his disappointment in a fellow believer who has been speaking against him. Now someone else is involved and the woman's friend with whom she can't lie if Kumuyi should go to her because she must have said things that's untrue to malign Kumuyi so Satan will be silenced. But what happens if she still disagree with her own friend who came to make peace with Kumuyi whom she speaks against? Then the elders of the church (representing the congregation) will now call both of them to express themselves freely that is where everyone will now see to it that she is truly a devil Incarnate at that time if she still disagree with the congregation then it's no longer an issue between her and Kumuyi but herself and God's holy spirit because Kumuyi has followed all the necessary procedures to appease her but she has proved that she wasn't a true member of Christ's family so everyone will hear about it and shun the evil person! Matthew 18:15-17 1 Like |
| Re: “send Her Out”; Pastor Kumuyi Orders Female Member Out Of The Church by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:29am On Sep 13, 2025 |
If Kumuyi followed the instructions Jesus gave no sincere and honest hearted member of the church will take the woman's side in fact members of her own family will tell her that she's evil after seeing all the effort Kumuyi put in place to make peace but with what Kumuyi did now all those who are on the woman's side will surely leave the church with the feeling that Kumuyi is guilty. Do you see why following Jesus' words is the wisest thing to do? Well that's why the scriptures referred to Jesus as the Most Wonderful Counselor ever among humans! Isaiah 9:6 |
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