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| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by Samantha125(f): 8:13am On Sep 13, 2025*. Modified: 9:14am On Sep 13, 2025 |
Then you're just wasting your time trying to be the voice of the same people who'd rather flock to a xenophobic nation than listen to you... ![]() And you are doing nothing... How are you the voice of the voiceless on a faceless Nigerian forum that majority of your people and Africans as a whole do not use or know about? I'm very sure that even majority of nairalanders don't know your moniker as well... ![]() And since you just admitted to how your people are powder sellers in nature here in SA, then why cry when we try to disassociate ourselves from them? It's like you're confusing patriotism for xenophobia. Here's an idea, how about you open a YouTube channel and be the voice of the voiceless black foreigners there like many of your people who've been monetized by YouTube for just speaking about us, I mean we all know how every niche centered around SA generates traffic... At least there you'll be on a bigger platform making money for doing the Lord's work. Because here you're just wasting your time with your "imaginary payback"... Gunning for every SA related topic on a faceless forum in the name of doing a "payback" just makes you seem bitter, but if it makes you sleep at night, then continue... And it's funny how you're constantly using put downs like "nana" on me with an intention of trying to insert dominance in order to boost your low self-esteem and feel secured about yourself... I know your kind, constantly trying to belittle others in order to mask your own insecurities... This is the reason why I hardly engage in online banters, many of you are just insecured people acting as keyboard warriors. And the word "nana" comes with different definitions, it can mean a grandmother, a child, a nurse, or a fool, so I'm not sure which one you're referring to...🤔🤔🤔... It'd be nice if you could be specific next time so that I can embrace it. seppuku: |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by seppuku: 3:30am On Sep 14, 2025 |
Samantha125:It's my time to waste. Shouldn't bother you at all. Samantha125:If just one person on nairaland sees my messaging my work is done. Samantha125:I have never advocated for South Africans to associate themselves with Nigerian drug syndicates in South Africa. That would not make any sense. However as mentioned earlier, a generalization of a people is often true but not always true so let that marinate in your medulla for a while. Samantha125:I do a lot of real work with refugees and NGO's so no need for You tube monetizing. I fold the sleeves up and get to work for free. In this life you learn, you earn and then you return. Samantha125:Ahh nana, you think you know my kind but I forgive you. You are young and emotional and therefore do not understand the reasons I do what I do. Samantha125:Its a term of endearment I use in the context of "little one" or "youngen", |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by DeepSight(m): 10:10am On Sep 14, 2025 |
JuanDeDios:Why? |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by Samantha125(f): 11:55am On Sep 14, 2025 |
Using age to try and belittle me in order to massage your fragile ego and mask your insecurities isn't helping comrade, you should know by now that age is not a measurement of one's maturity, wisdom, and intellect... Because if age really did mattered, then don't you think your leaders would've been doing a far better job in leading your country rather than running it to the ground? Like are we still in the 1900s whereby a person's maturity and intellect is still determined by his or her age? And since you guys always generalise us, it's only fair that we return the favour, you know what they say, one rotten apple spoils the entire barrel and the main fact that your people keep defending those rotten apples instead of standing in unity with SA to call out their people for their lawlessness and criminality isn't also helping, hence many of us end up disassociating ourselves with anything that has to do with Nigeria or Nigerians here in SA... So don't blame us for choosing to be safe than sorry, already we have plenty of our own issues. You can choose an option to keep your YouTube channel demonetized while doing your "payback" by being the voice of the voiceless... ... Because how do you expect me to understand the reasons why you do what you do while hiding behind a faceless forum? A true leader grandstands for his people...From the look of things, it's like you're the one who's getting sentimental here by bringing age into the picture while I'm only offering you a perfect opportunity to advocate for the "innocent" voiceless black people on a bigger platform... Make me understand rather than resorting to put downs as your defence, after all, we learn everyday.You can even showcase your charity work there, what do you think? ![]() seppuku: |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by seppuku: 2:50pm On Sep 14, 2025 |
Samantha125:1. It's not to belittle you, it's a term of endearment. It means I don't despise you. 2.I am more mature than you and it shows in your responses. 3. The leaders of my country ae sick with the same disease your ANC leaders are now sick off. Corruption and unaccountability. The curse all across the continent. Samantha125:I don't see any Nigerian here that defends drug peddlers, Kidnappers and the sort. What we are defending is the integrity of the remaining NIgerians whose names are beind slandered when SOuth Africans slander a whole nation of people they know little about except for what they read on social media and the class of people imported into their country. We can not empathize or sympathize with people who are not that smart. Samantha125:1.I have never claimed to be a leader nor do I crave to be one. I am simply a voice in the wilderness speaking what I see. If I ever lie about your country or what they do then please expose me for my deception. I believe people on nairaland are wise enough to discern what is propaganda and what is not. I have faith in their humanity. 2. I already advocate for the people you have mentioned above and continue to do so. Nairaland is one of many places in which I expose bigotry, tribalism, Xenophobia, hatred and shame those who would mask these things as "Patriotism". History vindicates my position when it comes these so called "patriots" running around chastising powerless, voiceless and helpless people because of their own short comings. Aluta continua. Viva AFRICA, mayibuye! |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by Samantha125(f): 5:06pm On Sep 14, 2025 |
If you call illusory superiority maturity, then you're right, you are more matured. As for our leaders, that's why I told you that age is not a measurement of one's maturity, wisdom, and intellect... At least we can agree on something. I also don't see any Nigerian publicly joining hands with SA by calling out their people for their lawlessness and criminalities here in SA, therefore, we are also defending the integrity of those of our voiceless people who've fallen victims to your people here in our country. And I like the fact that you said you cannot empathize or sympathize with people who are not that smart, because the feeling is mutual, so I don't get why you guys act as victims and claim xenophobia when we'd have been just returning a favour. Most nairalanders are just here to unwind and have fun like the rest of us, but if you believe in them, then good for you. And I'm offering you an opportunity to advocate for those people on a bigger platform so that the entire Africa and the world can know your voice, isn't that a perfect idea? ... Imagine the voiceless repeating VIVA AFRICA and mayibuye after you on your comment section... ![]() seppuku: |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by seppuku: 5:23pm On Sep 14, 2025 |
Samantha125:You are entitled to your opinion. Samantha125:You can be intellectual and corrupt at the same time. You can be mature and simultaneously a Kleptocrat so we don't agree. Samantha125:Speak for yourself nana. A lot of serious issues are discussed here. Some people do come here to dump all their frustrations on others but non the less Nairaland is the epitome of social discourse for Nigerians online. Samantha125:I prefer to stay anonymous. If you see my face on Youtube not telling what your people will do to me. The world is a crazy place now and we have immature radicals running around who cannot handle insults so I will do my work as I see fit for self preservation. Thanks for the offer but I humbly decline out of common sense. |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by Samantha125(f): 8:42pm On Sep 14, 2025 |
You're right, you can be intellectual and corrupt, mature and simultaneously a kleptocrat, but it has nothing to do with age... Anyone from any age group can be the two. Maybe a lot of serious issues pertaining your country's internal affairs are being discussed, but I don't see any of them helping with your advocacy... All you ever do is target SA related threads, do your imaginary paybacks, and the rest is history. Tomorrow it'll be like it never happened. And only guilty people need a reason to hide, making me wonder how you'll be the voice of the voiceless when hiding? Because honestly, you're just wasting your time here and I don't buy your excuse, perhaps you're afraid that we might expose some skeletons in your closet. seppuku: |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by seppuku: 4:08am On Sep 15, 2025 |
Samantha125:That was never a claim I made. Samantha125:You've been hiding in the romance section for too long. Many people here on nairaland have known your country as the republic of Xenophobia and have started threads on this issue. Samantha125:Sorry sisi, I have been around long enough to know that there are mad people in this world so I will continue to advocate for the voiceless in the manner I feel safe. |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by Samantha125(f): 12:55pm On Sep 15, 2025 |
Yet those same people would still prefer flocking to the same Republic of Xenophobia than stay in their peaceful and loving countries, so those threads are just a waste of time... And I was never hiding in the first place, if you check, I open threads across all sections... Romance and family sections are just where I get to have my fun and unwind from the reality of this world. Activism requires someone who's creative, open, courageous, persistent, and committed like VDM, I'm sorry to say that I don't see those traits in you... But anyways, good luck. seppuku: |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by seppuku: 1:15pm On Sep 15, 2025 |
Samantha125:The above has already been addressed. The fact that SA people are xenophobic does not exclude the fact that Many migrants will still look for economic opportunities wherever they can find them. The two are mutually exclusive. Does the dangerous Mediterranean Sea deter people who can't swim and still choose to cross on dilapidated boats on their way to Europe? A good number of genuine tourists across the continent are skipping your country now ever since xenophobix flare ups and will choose to spend their hard earned money esle where but then again you guys don't really care, the European ones are the type you have been wired to believe are the "better" tourists. Self hate is a powerful thing. Samantha125:HAHAHAHAHA! VDM Child that oversized muscle head is a clout chaser, hoping to earn a living by creating controversial content and stoking resentment. The first chance he gets to leave the country and he will vamoose in a second. Please look to people like Seun Kuti and Dele Farotimi who have proven records if you want to talk about real activists. You really don't know Nigerians, do you? |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by Samantha125(f): 2:32pm On Sep 15, 2025*. Modified: 3:28pm On Sep 15, 2025 |
Like I always say, never go where your safety is not guaranteed... If those genuine African tourists don't feel safe coming to SA, then there are plenty of beautiful African countries to choose from, they can invest their hard earned money there... Their safety should be their top priority... If you call patriotism self hate, then yeah, we are suffering from self hate. And since you know real activists, then you should know by now that what you're doing is nothing close to activism, but just constant nagging. If I knew Nigerians, would I be on this forum? I've said it many times before that I'm here to learn about you guys... I was on a Ghanaian forum before I joined nairaland, but since their forum was already dominated by Nigerians, I thought it was best I join a Nigerian forum and learn about the giants of Africa... ![]() seppuku: |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by seppuku: 3:57pm On Sep 15, 2025 |
Samantha125:A patriotic person who resides with a republic reads his constitution and lobby's his representatives to go to parliament and amend laws that are seen to hurt the South African people rather than blocking poor, defenseless sick and pregnant African/black women and children who may die because you are being patriotic. Why does your patriotism not extend to europeans who are overstaying visas in cape town everyday and believe me there are many of them. Patriotic my behind. Samantha125:These ad hominems and diatribes simply demonstrate your immaturity. Attack the subject matter and not the messenger. Samantha125:Get on a plane and visit the country and expand your mine instead of hanging out on a skewed online platform that will never give you a full insight into what a people are. If you don't have money we will help you with a gofundme. |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by Samantha125(f): 4:42pm On Sep 15, 2025 |
Like I said, go where you're appreciated and know peace...🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️... Since you've already concluded that we're xenophobes suffering from self hate, then why are you still complaining? Leave us and our self hate in peace... If there's one thing I'll never do, is force myself where I'm not wanted. And if me stating facts means I'm immatured, then you're right, I am the most immatured person in Africa... ![]() Thanks, but no thank you... I'm happy with living in my xenophobic country... I'd rather use the money to invest in my country and create jobs for the youth of SA than travel... I have relatives and friends who studied abroad, but still returned back to SA immediately they graduated due to home sickness and besides, it's not compulsory to travel. seppuku: |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by seppuku: 5:20pm On Sep 15, 2025 |
Samantha125:This is why I say you guys need to elevate your minds. Change your laws and migrants will stop flooding your shores looking for economic opportunity. The first world that dominates the economy in your country is driving cheap labor into it. There is nothing you will do in a global economic system where variable factors of production are allowed to move freely. Until then I will call out self hate and xenophobia where ever I see it. Samantha125:These are not facts, they are childish conclusions to serious issues. Samantha125:Definitely not compulsory to travel however moving across the globe does broaden ones perspective and ensures that one understands the world they live in from a broader vantage point, otherwise there wouldn't be a need for inventing modes of transport for commercial/tourist travel, but I do get you South Africans, you just came out of Apartheid where you were denied access to many parts of your own country so you are not in any rush to jet out anywhere else In addition, you have been spooked that the rest of Africa is so backward that you cling on to what you know and dare not step outside of your comfort zones. "Africa" outside is a very scary place. |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by Samantha125(f): 6:07pm On Sep 15, 2025 |
Oh! So now you're advising xenophobes on how to run their country? Don't worry about us, use your elevated minds to tackle the tribalism, religious bigotry, and corruption in your country instead... And who knows? Maybe we might just learn a thing or two from those elevated minds... ![]() And you're free to call us by any name you see fit if it makes you sleep at night... ![]() Then I guess I'm the most childish person in Africa... ![]() Wait a minute, since you guys are well exposed and travelled, then how come your country is not in the top five tourist destinations? And how will understanding the world from a broader perspective help change my own country's issues? Already I'm married to a foreign national, shouldn't that be enough? ![]() seppuku: |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by seppuku: 6:36pm On Sep 15, 2025 |
Samantha125:Advise is a good thing, it is necessary for peoples to exchange ideas. This is the reason you are here on Nairaland otherwise you would be concerned only with your village people. Samantha125:I only call people what they appear to be. Samantha125:Ahh nana, your immaturity shines again. 1. Being well travelled and your country being on the top five tourist destinations are mutually exclusive concepts. There is no correlation or causation that can be tied to both those assertions that would require any logical conclusion. 2. Understanding the world you live in and experiencing different cultures, cuisines, lifestyles is enriching both mentally, psychologically, emotional, financially e.t.c. You can only do that by immersing yourself. This is the reason why your White counterparts travel the world 10 times more than anyone of you. 3. Marriage to a foreign national simply means you are open to different cultures. Experiencing different cultures is a different thing since you are only experiencing one culture intimately. |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by Samantha125(f): 7:39pm On Sep 15, 2025 |
Lol... it's funny how you keep bringing up the issue of maturity to boost your self confidence and massage your already fragile ego... .. I already told you how I'm the most immatured person in Africa, so why keep bringing it up? ![]() Like I said, you're free to call us by any name you wish...🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️ They do correlate, the more you travel, it's the more you'll adopt new ideas, interact with different cultures, and develop critical skills that'll help expand your knowledge... You can apply all that knowledge into your tourism industry, attract tourists, and help boost your country's economic growth...🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️... Your country should be leading Africa in tourism. Why brag about traveling the world when you can have the world coming to you? And like I said, I'm content with living in my country, so I don't understand why it bothers you. seppuku: |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by seppuku: 8:08pm On Sep 15, 2025 |
Samantha125:No I am calling out the infantile nature of your argument because it shows. I don't care about ego. Samantha125:So when I travel and experience the world, I then need to come back and then need to apply for a job at the ministry of tourism and then promote tourism in my country. SMH Samantha125:It doesn't bother me at all. Some human beings are accustomed to living in a microcosm and are content with existing within a very small world, be it their small village, township, city or country. An Old man living in Mthata who never experienced eating sushi in a fancy Japanese restaurant in Tokyo or sipping a cocktail by the shores of Santorini in Greece will still live a life but has he Truly lived is the question? |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by Samantha125(f): 9:16pm On Sep 15, 2025 |
Why apply for a job when you can create one with your knowledge and exposure?🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️... By creating your own tourist destination, you'll be investing in your country's tourism industry...🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️ And don't worry, we don't mind eating those sushis and drinking those cocktails at the comfort of our homes while watching Netflix... ... Do you and we'll do us.And who still brags about sushi and cocktails in 2025? The same sushi and cocktails that we eat and drink at our township and village weddings/parties? Come on... We even have restaurants in some of our villages selling sea food and cocktails. seppuku: |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by seppuku: 9:42pm On Sep 15, 2025 |
Samantha125:But I had to travel to get the exposure first, didn't I? SMH Samantha125:You can also turn on a Youtube channel of a traveller from South Africa in Cuba and live vicariously through their travel experience. The point just flew right over your head, didn't it. SMH Samantha125:You can also drive to Yeoville and dine in at a Nigerian Restuarant and enjoy some egusi and pounded yam without going to Nigeria. Apparently you don't know what a false equivalence is so I will just indulge you. SMH even more. |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by Onegai(f): 5:48am On Sep 16, 2025 |
Namaster:Oh no, oh dear. That means that all the men in South Korea, China and Japan (for example) are unworthy. Their countries are probably worse than Nigeria because of this huge problem...wait...let's go and confirm how horrible their countries are, compared to ours. I just checked, it's raining in Seoul and also raining in Lagos. Which city do you think still has electricity (an old 19th century invention) during the rain? Do you have light, m'dear? In Seoul, those "unworthy" men who let their wives keep their surnames have created a country where there's light as it is raining. See the problem I have with the Black race (and it's a general problem amongst all of us, African, West Indian, Black American) is that we have so little achievements, we have no little to recommend us to stand with our peers that we cover our insecurities by beating our chests loudly and screaming about things that are not important in the long run. White man and Asian man don't need to flex their muscle to oppress women and children, because their achievements rule the world, unlike us. A woman's surname is another man's surname, be it her father or her husband. And even in the Old Testament, men did honour their Father-in-laws with decades of service and loyalty, becoming his son (they didn't pick his last name because in ancient times, people didn't really have surnames, they named you and added the location where you were born). Choosing to become your FiL's son and serving him for decades can be akin to saying "I'm picking my wife's surname to honour her father", abi? Just a thought. Now, how about we stop focusing on insignificant minors that lead to nothing productive and actually worry about fixing the moral decay in our society that has made us a global name for fraud, poverty, corruption and crime, hmmm? Good morning y'all. |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by Samantha125(f): 7:58am On Sep 16, 2025 |
Now you're just ranting and shaking your head continuously... ... Let me save you from your miseries and end this discussion right here and and right now.ALUTA CONTINUA!!! Mayibuye...🤣🤣🤣🤣 seppuku: |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by Ishilove: 9:59am On Sep 16, 2025 |
Onegai:Surnames are a European adoption. My own father's surname is his grandfather's first name. My father's siblings all have different surnames and my grandfather had his own surname, also different. In short, it is confusing even though Dad has explained it to me several times. What i do know is the whole extended family has a common clan name... Frack, it is still confusing ![]() |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by Onegai(f): 10:06am On Sep 16, 2025 |
Ishilove:Koreans didn't get surnames until the 20th century, it's why so many of them share the same surname. They just gathered and collected the surname of the main ruling family in their village (if Lee was the Chief, everyone in the village became Lee etc). So surname no dey shack their body. We as Africans, we need to find achievements because this is getting embarrassing. Insecure people sure do beat their chests loudly. |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by Ishilove: 10:18am On Sep 16, 2025 |
Onegai:Even the Royal families of the European countries we are copying didn't have surnames until as recent as the 20th century, if I am correct. I just only found out that the British monarchy changed their family name after the first world war. These ones foaming at the mouth on this thread are just displaying their insecurities and useless ego |
| Re: Husbands, Widowers Can Take Their Wives Surnames - South Africa's highest Court by seppuku: 1:45pm On Sep 16, 2025 |
Samantha125:Yes, because the point flies over your head and it would be unproductive to argue with the mind of someone who applies circular reasoning, commits logical fallacy and engages in ad hominems but still insists they have actually made a point. Any time you are ready class can continue nana. |
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