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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(mod): 9:40pm On Oct 03, 2025
HustlaOfLagos:
Oga Justwise, any way I can get the email associated with my old account / reset my pw?

Cant seem to remember
You probably need to contact the admin to see if they can help.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 11:18am On Oct 04, 2025
justwise:
You probably need to contact the admin to see if they can help.
Travel section's admin?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 11:21am On Oct 04, 2025
Lexusgs430:
I hope Access bank shareholders, don't choke on their peppersoup..... 😏😂

You would expect EFCC to step in, but they are busy chasing yahoo boys...... 🙄
The Law is blind when it comes to people like that.

Nigeria is just a cesspit of corruption that never seems to allow honest, upright people thrive. A cultural and mindset shift backed with laws that punish the rich as well as the poor is badly needed in Nigeria but who will spearhead things like that?
Is it the bumbling, garrulous, crass, barely literate Wike or Tinubu who doesn't seem to know what he's doing?

Nigeria shall be in the trenches for a while and that is me being nice smiley
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 11:24am On Oct 04, 2025
Mcleo007:
There is a possibility that the ILR might not apply retrospectively and may only apply to individuals already on the routes when the rules are introduced.





Forcing people to work for the same employer for 10yrs is peak wickedness. Unless the visas are made to make job switching easy, otherwise, it's nothing but a modern-day slavery.
I do have the feeling that you will not be tied to an employer after the initial 5 years if that is implemented. This allows you some freedom and job switching without getting an ILR since the goal is to prevent access to benefits.

I mean, that is the sensible way to go about if but then, UK politicians may have other ideas grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(mod): 11:31am On Oct 04, 2025
HustlaOfLagos:
Travel section' s admin?
nairaland
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 11:54am On Oct 04, 2025
HustlaOfLagos:
I do have the feeling that you will not be tied to an employer after the initial 5 years if that is implemented. This allows you some freedom and job switching without getting an ILR since the goal is to prevent access to benefits.

I mean, that is the sensible way to go about if but then, UK politicians may have other ideas grin
You Dey whine? They want you out of the country you’re saying they will give you some freedom to switch jobs! 😂
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 12:06pm On Oct 04, 2025
justwise:
nairaland
Okay thanks Chief smiley
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 12:06pm On Oct 04, 2025
Goke7:
You Dey whine? They want you out of the country you’re saying they will give you some freedom to switch jobs! 😂
Just trying to be optimistic as today is Saturday before Man Utd breaks my heart as usual

grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 12:10pm On Oct 04, 2025
justwise:
Your friend can swtich back to Cybersecurity when he settles with full right to live and work in this country, nobody pins him down to health care work for ever. He is thinking outside the box which is what education gives you. You studied Cybersecurity and you applied for jobs with no positive outcome then what? You keep waiting until your visa expires?
I remember this discourse like yesterday with all the 10 yr route brouhaha

UK gov don hold all man for blockos

cheesy grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(mod): 12:26pm On Oct 04, 2025
HustlaOfLagos:
I remember this discourse like yesterday with all the 10 yr route brouhaha

UK gov don hold all man for blockos

cheesy grin
Yup...chicken is home to...

Some Nigerians never cease to amaze me...
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 12:44pm On Oct 04, 2025
justwise:
Yup...chicken is home to...

Some Nigerians never cease to amaze me...
It is well smiley
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 1:20pm On Oct 04, 2025
HustlaOfLagos:
Just trying to be optimistic as today is Saturday before Man Utd breaks my heart as usual

grin
😂 Man U? I don’t envy you o. You need plenty hugs as therapy!
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by twizzie:
Hi All,

I know this has been addressed here but seeking clarification due to a peculiar situation.

I'm applying to renew my visa but my passport has expired and available date of capture is after current Visa expires. I know people on here have said one can apply with an expired passport but how can I bypass the page requesting for passport details as it keeps saying to put a future expiry date?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 3:45am On Oct 05, 2025
Raalsalghul:
What's the difference between increasing the time to get ILR retrospectively and reform deporting folks with ILR already? undecided

On this, Labour has no moral ground like opined in this article since both policies are the same and will unsettle the people who are in this category.

Make them rest abeg. undecided

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/sep/28/keir-starmer-says-farage-plan-racist-deport-people-settled-in-the-uk
She said her parents, who settled in Birmingham in the 1970s, didn’t “just come to work – they settled, they made a contribution to the local community, they were volunteers, they got involved in local politics. They did more than simply work and earn a salary.”

I have always wondered what goes on in the mind of certain second gen folks. It appears they truly believe their parents had widely different (i.e 'better') characteristics than those coming today. At what point does this thinking take hold?

Looking at the description of her parents, it's quite clear they were everyday hustlers however, she's made up this complex in her mind about them being high-riders. I'm sure if you ask Kemi, she'd say her mum who edged in her birth in was also a 'contributor'

I am truly curious as this is a narrative I'd look out for in my kids and challenge if present.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 4:09am On Oct 05, 2025
ReesheesuKnack:
They want to impose a 6% TAX on International Students so that they will use the money to fund grants for ‘Home’ students!!!!

The same international students that even after getting glossy paper UK degrees will wait a minimum of 10 years to get ILR?

I have a very strong feeling that the Labour Party rep that used to be on this thread, MissJekyll has Japa’ed a long time ago.
What I find most interesting about this announcement is how much little press coverage it got i.e the actual source of the grant. This is virtually the only place I see it mentioned. Its quite telling.
This sure goes against the constant narrative of migrants not contributing despite independent data showing they contribute far more than their local counterparts.

I remember saying during the last visa fee and IHS increase that the UK has seen migration as a low-hanging income source. They'd keep going at it until something breaks.
If not anything, this demonstrates once more my favourite guiding quote- one which many struggle to grasp in their early days here. we're not here because we're wanted. We are because we are needed. In simple terms, we're not being done a favour. It's the main reason why I have always been unapologetic in seeking the best for myself.

Hehe @missjekyll.. perhaps she felt she could do without emotional exchanges which she did seem to have many of

Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 4:49am On Oct 05, 2025
Goodenoch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez1cn8d28_8

Niko Omilana at the ‘Unite the Right’ rally.
After 2 attempts, I did watch most of it. Not surprised. What's more telling is that though folks in this video look largely rundown, such narrative permeates thru most sectors in different shades. It usually usually only takes a scratch to bring it to the fore.

Also not surprising that the distinction is based on colour and religion not when ones progenitors arrived. It's a very thin line between true concern about immigration and these folks.

What I however find surprising is rising islamophobia. As someone who is a Christian, though I sadly don't go to church regularly, I was usually the most religious person in my cohort. I begin to wonder where all these Christians that want to save their country come from.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 5:04am On Oct 05, 2025
Mcleo007:
There is a possibility that the ILR might not apply retrospectively and may only apply to individuals already on the routes when the rules are introduced.

Forcing people to work for the same employer for 10yrs is peak wickedness. Unless the visas are made to make job switching easy, otherwise, it's nothing but a modern-day slavery.
With all being said, this move might be the biggest revenue generator for the government since they came to office.


So after 8yrs in the country, one could have 60 days to leave the country should they lose their job. That's incredibly punitive.

Even with the job security my role had, I still felt being on a visa unduly restrictive.
Most of what I achieved in the UK financially was thanks to visa restrictions that were lifted during covid and the freedoms I had post-ILR.
The ultimate outcome here would be much reduced attainment (health, financial e.t.c) for immigrants which would likely spill unto their kids. Then same folks would point to that difference as an excuse to go further.

With this, top shooters and folks with options will likely use the UK as a stepping stone to other nations while many who'd remain would be for lack of alternatives. Of course, there'd always be folks seeking to come in.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 6:48am On Oct 05, 2025
HustlaOfLagos:
I do have the feeling that you will not be tied to an employer after the initial 5 years if that is implemented. This allows you some freedom and job switching without getting an ILR since the goal is to prevent access to benefits.

I mean, that is the sensible way to go about if but then, UK politicians may have other ideas grin
Honestly if they do this I would have zero problems with it. I genuinely understand the concerns about benefits - it’s not only immigrants they’re trying to cut benefits for after all, also citizens and even old people. The whole benefits system is broken. And also, logically, if you’re a skilled worker you shouldn’t be in need of benefits as such, except if a mishap of some kind occurs.

BUT, being tied to sponsorship for 10 years? That, I cannot bear.

I’m on my third sponsorship now in less than 3 years and while I’ve made substantial jumps in earnings each time and am in a single digit percentile of earners at <30 so have lots to be thankful for, but I know it’s still less than I would be earning without the hindrance of sponsorship, and that gap will only continue to widen.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 9:18am On Oct 05, 2025
Goke7:
😂 Man U? I don’t envy you o. You need plenty hugs as therapy!
but we won tongue
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 9:20am On Oct 05, 2025
Goodenoch:
I’m on my third sponsorship now in less than 3 years and while I’ve made substantial jumps in earnings each time and am in a single digit percentile of earners at <30 so have lots to be thankful for, but I know it’s still less than I would be earning without the hindrance of sponsorship, and that gap will only continue to widen.
..And here I am, feeling guilty as I am trying to test the market and see what's good after 1 year LOL

Did you have to pay sponsorship costs each time? That is the only reason I considered staying till after 2 years but with the way the UK is, best to enjoy yourself and at least earn well before they change rules again
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by bigtt76(f): 10:44am On Oct 05, 2025
Why not search all your different email accounts using the keyword 'Nairaland' you might be lucky to stumble on the notification email sent when you signed up.




HustlaOfLagos:
Oga Justwise, any way I can get the email associated with my old account / reset my pw?

Cant seem to remember
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 11:56am On Oct 05, 2025
bigtt76:
Why not search all your different email accounts using the keyword 'Nairaland' you might be lucky to stumble on the notification email sent when you signed up.
Searched the main one but I think it was changed to a random email and I cant remember the email or password.

Will probably contact the admin if its possible
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by directonpc(m): 12:21pm On Oct 05, 2025
HustlaOfLagos:
Searched the main one but I think it was changed to a random email and I cant remember the email or password.

Will probably contact the admin if its possible
The admin might have to really like you or is just very kind to help you with stuff like this.

It might even involve updating your record manually on the backend.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 12:47pm On Oct 05, 2025
directonpc:
The admin might have to really like you or is just very kind to help you with stuff like this.

It might even involve updating your record manually on the backend.
They should like me o, I am a good person according to sources

grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 2:26pm On Oct 05, 2025
HustlaOfLagos:
..And here I am, feeling guilty as I am trying to test the market and see what's good after 1 year LOL

Did you have to pay sponsorship costs each time? That is the only reason I considered staying till after 2 years but with the way the UK is, best to enjoy yourself and at least earn well before they change rules again
Yes, had to pay application fees plus IHS each time. Been a chunk each time. Good thing is - if you or your spouse are in health and care (the industry, not the visa), you will be able to claim back the IHS fee installmentally.

I only felt guilt in the first place because it was a fairly small (by employee numbers) outfit but next couple of places have been massive organisations so much less personal.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 4:37pm On Oct 05, 2025
Goodenoch:
Yes, had to pay application fees plus IHS each time. Been a chunk each time. Good thing is - if you or your spouse are in health and care (the industry, not the visa), you will be able to claim back the IHS fee installmentally.

I only felt guilt in the first place because it was a fairly small (by employee numbers) outfit but next couple of places have been massive organisations so much less personal.
Hmm, I thought one could claim back the IHS fees even if not in HC as you are switching from one visa to the other? It says here -

https://www.gov.uk/healthcare-immigration-application/refunds

"You’ll get a full immigration health surcharge (IHS) refund if: you’re applying to extend or switch your visa in the UK and have paid the IHS twice for the same period"

I am not in HC at all lipsrsealed
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 4:54pm On Oct 05, 2025
HustlaOfLagos:
Hmm, I thought one could claim back the IHS fees even if not in HC as you are switching from one visa to the other? It says here -

https://www.gov.uk/healthcare-immigration-application/refunds

"You’ll get a full immigration health surcharge (IHS) refund if: you’re applying to extend or switch your visa in the UK and have paid the IHS twice for the same period"

I am not in HC at all lipsrsealed
maybe marry someone in healthcare?
Just kidding o
cheesy

Yes, that's the general one:

This is what I'm referring to: https://www.gov.uk/apply-immigration-health-surcharge-refund/tier-2-visa-medical-professional
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 6:59pm On Oct 05, 2025
jedisco:
She said her parents, who settled in Birmingham in the 1970s, didn’t “just come to work – they settled, they made a contribution to the local community, they were volunteers, they got involved in local politics. They did more than simply work and earn a salary.”

I have always wondered what goes on in the mind of certain second gen folks. It appears they truly believe their parents had widely different (i.e 'better') characteristics than those coming today. At what point does this thinking take hold?

Looking at the description of her parents, it's quite clear they were everyday hustlers however, she's made up this complex in her mind about them being high-riders. I'm sure if you ask Kemi, she'd say her mum who edged in her birth in was also a 'contributor'

I am truly curious as this is a narrative I'd look out for in my kids and challenge if present.
When Braverman too was reminded that her parents were refugees she replied that they were legal refugees 😂 that’s when I knew these folks are just jesters!
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 7:07pm On Oct 05, 2025
jedisco:
After 2 attempts, I did watch most of it. Not surprised. What's more telling is that though folks in this video look largely rundown, such narrative permeates thru most sectors in different shades. It usually usually only takes a scratch to bring it to the fore.

Also not surprising that the distinction is based on colour and religion not when ones progenitors arrived. It's a very thin line between true concern about immigration and these folks.

What I however find surprising is rising islamophobia. As someone who is a Christian, though I sadly don't go to church regularly, I was usually the most religious person in my cohort. I begin to wonder where all these Christians that want to save their country come from.
Those kind of aggressive and violent Christians are not different from Islamic fundamentalists. They are much in America and are great proponents of gun rights. They will tell you they are pro-life when it comes to abortion laws but can never be pro-life for gun control 😂
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 7:16pm On Oct 05, 2025
HustlaOfLagos:
..And here I am, feeling guilty as I am trying to test the market and see what's good after 1 year LOL

Did you have to pay sponsorship costs each time? That is the only reason I considered staying till after 2 years but with the way the UK is, best to enjoy yourself and at least earn well before they change rules again
I'd say be unapologetic about seeking the best for yourself along as it's within the rules and you try not to shatter connections unduly.

With many things, some people get it and some dont. I think it was Charlie Munger who said that when asked about having an economic mindset.

There are huge bottlenecks but it irks me when I see people limit themselves mentally and dont grab opp

When I came into the UK, despite my first role being a well paid job, I started planning for and went to an interview for my second role before fully starting the first. In 5 months, I resigned and moved on.
When I completed post-grad training, I narrowed down to 3 workplaces and was very clear. For the first, despite they had applied to the Home Office for visa sponsorship because of me (and got it), I told them if they can't match market rates I wouldn't be taking their offer and moved on. For the remaining two, I told the familiar one what the other was offering and as they couldn't match it, I left.
I enjoyed where I worked and after 2 yrs, resigned and worked via my company.

When the Canada PR route for healthcare workers launched, I grabbed it without thinking twice. Many here said I wad seeking utopia but I knew better.
On moving to Canada, after consideration, I decided to go with two clinics and work across sites. They are both aware. My plan remains to test both out and finally settle into one. No regrets so far.

At every stage, I had colleagues who had dithered and never took opportunities when they presented themselves. Many spent years with no forward plans. Recently I asked a recent arrival what their plans were and the lack of depth was annoying.

Reason why when folks insinuate opportunities are only out there for healthcare workers, I wonder whether its more of a chicken and egg scenario. Is it because that cohort are relatively less likely to settle for less? Even in 9ja, same was the case
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 7:50pm On Oct 05, 2025
Goke7:
When Braverman too was reminded that her parents were refugees she replied that they were legal refugees 😂 that’s when I knew these folks are just jesters!
Hehe... didn't read this.

But seriously, I just can't narrow it down.

Though anecdotal, I have tried speaking to second-gens at different levels and still can't pin it down.
I look around and see kids of recent arrivals happy and mingling I just can't envisage them telling hardworking migrants in say 20yrs how they're parasites and their parentswere the model migrants. It boggles my mind. Perhaps our prominent second gen @Zahra29 could be of help here.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 7:56pm On Oct 05, 2025
Goke7:
Those kind of aggressive and violent Christians are not different from Islamic fundamentalists. They are much in America and are great proponents of gun rights. They will tell you they are pro-life when it comes to abortion laws but can never be pro-life for gun control 😂
Hehe... In UK, many of those have not even seen a church in ages but all of a sudden become defenders of the church because the brown man next door is of a different religion.

I was only just having a conversation about that on Nairaland as it seems Kirk is now the new martyr. The rally of certain Christians towards lunatics- people who hate them for their colour all because that lunatic said 'go to church' or uses certain phrases is something else. Religion can truly be an opium
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