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Fair enough. The bedrock of my post is as Erigga go talk am “ because e work for mr A like that no mean say e go work for mr B like that.

Stay hard

HustlaOfLagos:
Again, I will always say "Excuses are easy"

Lots of people got that soft landing and still didn't do anything with it. A lot of students didn't get any soft landing but they researched before coming, right skills to seek etc

There is no excuse in today's digital age not to get basic information or do research before embarking on a life changing endeavour like relocating and leaving your comfort zone. People like Chidera Peters were sharing tips to select courses, write academic stuff and get distinction as far back as 2021 but our people were outsourcing their classwork and projects to Nigerians, not knowing that this will likely reflect on their ability to make something out of the degree in the job market.

Hell, Nairaland dey there for all your questions. ChatGPT can map everything for you and even give you solid advice that you can run with and see results regardless of the industry you are but excuses are easy

I remember when Justwise was giving free advice on this forum, especially on the student thread, the people e dey try give advice, them even insult am join

Don't like her much but quite a few great points were raised

6.5 million adults being on benefits without working is quite insane. That's the entire population of Cardiff, Belfast, Glasgow, Manchester combined according to her

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HustlaOfLagos:
Don't like her much but quite a few great points were raised

6.5 million adults being on benefits without working is quite insane. That's the entire population of Cardiff, Belfast, Glasgow, Manchester combined according to her

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lavida001:
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The overall speech was good

oluwaleokey:
I believe age plays a major factor
You don't expect baba tunde with 3 kids or papa chukwudi with kids to jumping around countries even when they have got a reasonable paying job that's way above average pay?
It's entirely not a bad idea but remember some folks migrated with family or do not have age on their side anymore.
Good luck to all of us on any category we belong

Facts! The majority of Nigerian migrants are older and most migrated with family. Relocating a family is difficult, even within the UK. You will require stability, particularly for your kids.

Goke7:
There are migrants on benefits like asylum seekers, approved refugees including European citizens who are in legally. The problem is those who aren’t entitled to benefits are not always separated from the discourse.

This is exactly the case.

@Brine
Bro I don come again o. I’ve been trying to open a Monzo Business account for the company but I found out they only let directors open or be added to the business account because they do a confirmation on Companies House. Since I’m not currently listed as a director on Companies House, that’s been the hurdle.

Do you think it’s alright if I just add myself as a director to get around that? I figured that might be the simplest way forward.

Modified: Hey Brine. Just wanted to call your attention to this in case you missed it. Looking forward to your guidance, please.

Hello
I am a student in central London , and I have been looking for a shared room accommodation, and it has not been easy getting one , I need one urgently
Pls kindly help a soul

Cyberknight:
No sir, I most certainly did not. You very clearly denigrated state school students in your original quoted post, now you're saying that you were only talking up private (fee-paying) school attendance.

That's a straw man argument you're trying to set up there, you know.

In any event, there's no point going back and forth, so I'll wish you a good morning when it comes and leave you to it.

See, that guy is not serious. I been Dey gbadu am before but he just pontificates and discounts other perspectives (no humility).

Even this japa to UK, I know how hard it was (so many missed occasions with family, cultural differences especially with raising children, dislocated long time friendships etc.)…then as I’m settling down, I will now Japa 2.0 just at the drop of a hat without something pulling or pushing me 😂 He’s talking from his own vantage point jare. To each his own

Cyberknight:
No sir, I most certainly did not. You very clearly denigrated state school students in your original quoted post, now you're saying that you were only talking up private (fee-paying) school attendance.

That's a straw man argument you're trying to set up there, you know.

In any event, there's no point going back and forth, so I'll wish you a good morning when it comes and leave you to it.

Not surprised. Go read my post again.

In hurry to make insinuations you failed to understand the content of my conversation

oluwaleokey:
Oga I want to believe you are also a politician (9ja + UK)
You have succeeded in confusing you .
Anyways I admire your writing skills and illustrations.
I can partially agree with you when it comes to aged single bachelors however for a men in their early 40's with family+kids?
Ordinary changing kids school within same locality could impact them let alone moving countries, perhaps different languages, culture, society, system etc u go know how far be that

E get age way man go reach like this, u go understand better say obodo oyibo nah obodo oyibo o, as long u see fine fine houses, roads, environment, white oyibo and most especially the foreign currency, otito!

Hehe.. hopefully, not all remain stuck there.

In life, we all make choices. Take two men of 40 with kids and put them in a workplace. Its almost guaranteed that in a period of say 15yrs, outcomes would be very different. Some of this might be by chance, some by effort. Infact many people refuse to japa in their 40's cos they dont think it's worth it whereas, I've seen a man in his mid 60's sell his house and japa. I've had married colleagues come into the country together, start at entry roles, after a while one keeps pushing on to advance while the other enjoys the entry role and remains there for periods on end. Again, none of these folks necessarily took a bad decision. They just focused on what mattered to them.


Even out of the workplace, the effort people put in things differ widely mainly based on the importance they attach to it. Move things over to say religion and some folks who were docile at work become firebrand. Again not bad, just choices- all of which come with implications.

HustlaOfLagos:
Again, I will always say "Excuses are easy"

Lots of people got that soft landing and still didn't do anything with it. A lot of students didn't get any soft landing but they researched before coming, right skills to seek etc

Well said. Trying to balance individual responsibility and wider factors at play is always walking a fine line. Its difficult to say these things without sounding hauty. I'm keen to point out wider drivers of inequality which is the reason I'm strongly against visa changes that impoverish migrants. If I put ants in a bottle and make it such that only one can escape at a time, it does not matter the hardwork they put in, they'd largely be stuck. One is not oblivious of overlying constraints.


I remember when this thread was full of posts about how difficult the driving test was. It got soo much that one had to point out that this exam was not hard. The illustration I gave recounted how when I first arrived this country, in the same class where someone lamented how the UK system was complex and how many times he had to take the test, a compatriot of his used thesame test to illustrate how the UK system was straightforward and non-gimmicky stating how the test would take you along known routes and ask you to do thesame thing your tutor had shown which wouldn't have been the case for a similar test in India.

Recently, I was trying to convince a migrant who is well read to promptly take an entry-level test in the UK so as to advance their career. The lady was more interested in telling me how hard it is and that they'd need at least 9 -12 months to prepare. I had to explain that this was a basic test that even those with learning issues are able to take and pass. Or is it someone who came in via a dodgy care company and had rebuffed all pleas to seek roles in different parts of the country. Next thing was that the sponsoring company's licence was revoked. Lady is now willing to work hard. I once had to work with a Nigerian in his late 60's/70's who had been here for a very long time but for some reason was stuck and didn't progress. Wetin 20yo girls take papa eye see was not nice. Examples abound- reason why I say, some get it, some don't.


People might think healthcare gives some succour which can be true to an extent. But then, its my experience there that makes me say certain things. There are alot of squabbles going on there without much public attention. As a migrant medic, some locals want you to come and suffer doing hard jobs for life while they progress and galivant. It's left for one to decide if they want to or not.

Jamesclooney:
See, that guy is not serious. I been Dey gbadu am before but he just pontificates and discounts other perspectives (no humility).

Even this japa to UK, I know how hard it was (so many missed occasions with family, cultural differences especially with raising children, dislocated long time friendships etc.)…then as I’m settling down, I will now Japa 2.0 just at the drop of a hat without something pulling or pushing me 😂 He’s talking from his own vantage point jare. To each his own

Hehe... our views are be different and everyone sharing theirs doesn't necessarily mean their hauty. We all see things differently.

jedisco:
Hehe.. hopefully, not all remain stuck there.

In life, we all make choices. Take two men of 40 with kids and put them in a workplace. Its almost guaranteed that in a period of say 15yrs, outcomes would be very different. Some of this might be by chance, some by effort. Infact many people refuse to japa in their 40's cos they dont think it's worth it whereas, I've seen a man in his mid 60's sell his house and japa. I've had married colleagues come into the country together, start at entry roles, after a while one keeps pushing on to advance while the other enjoys the entry role and remains there for periods on end. Again, none of these folks necessarily took a bad decision. They just focused on what mattered to them.


Even out of the workplace, the effort people put in things differ widely mainly based on the importance they attach to it. Move things over to say religion and some folks who were docile at work become firebrand. Again not bad, just choices- all of which come with implications.

My sister parents in-law migrated to the US years ago in their sixties after her father in law retired as a top management staff in one of Nigeria’s mega banks. It was so strange to me then in fact we had to rush my sister’s marriage ceremony then as the man threatened we may have to do the marriage without them if we don’t hasten up, we think say na play o 😂. Apart from his house he sold every damn thing to migrate. He’s almost 80 now living the best of his life in fact it was when he got to the US a growth was discovered somewhere on his body and successfully operated upon, if he was still back in naija of course we can easily predict the outcome. I must admit that was one of my motivations to also japa as I told myself if that man and his wife at that age could take such a decision then what is my own problem so all these our younger people complaining of deciding to migrate as they are too old is laughable. The issue is understanding your why and clarity around your objectives with no pretence and reliance on what others think.

I finally reached out to a friend I hadn't heard from in nearly six months, but her line wouldn't connect. She contacted me shortly after via WhatsApp.

After exchanging pleasantries, she asked how life was treating me and what I had been up to. The very next thing she did was ask:

"Please can you assist me with money?"

I responded, "What kind of money?"

She named a figure.

I replied, "Not immediately," and explained the various commitments and emergencies I'd had to deal with over the last 60 days.

So she asked, "Okay, how much can you spare?"

I told her, "You have to give me time, please."

My real question is this: Does it really make sense to sell everything and move to the UK with barely enough funds, only to end up depending on friends and family back in Nigeria to survive? Or should one only move when they have enough of a financial runway—a buffer for emergencies—to last for six months to a year?

Nigerians who have moved to the UK, which side of the divide do you identify with the lady that recently moved to the UK or me back in Nigeria?

FEGEITOK:
I finally reached out to a friend I hadn't heard from in nearly six months, but her line wouldn't connect. She contacted me shortly after via WhatsApp.

After exchanging pleasantries, she asked how life was treating me and what I had been up to. The very next thing she did was ask:

"Please can you assist me with money?"

I responded, "What kind of money?"

She named a figure.

I replied, "Not immediately," and explained the various commitments and emergencies I'd had to deal with over the last 60 days.

So she asked, "Okay, how much can you spare?"

I told her, "You have to give me time, please."

My real question is this: Does it really make sense to sell everything and move to the UK with barely enough funds, only to end up depending on friends and family back in Nigeria to survive? Or should one only move when they have enough of a financial runway—a buffer for emergencies—to last for six months to a year?

Nigerians who have moved to the UK, which side of the divide do you identify with the lady that recently moved to the UK or me back in Nigeria?

no matter how much you plan - you will likley still go through a baptism of fire somewhere along the line

my sister and her husband moved to the us in 2008/9 i think. he had a pwc job. she was a doctor. then he got laid off and had to go to college so he could get a degree that he could work with. it was a HARD period and everyone chipped in. today they are doing very very well. if the support had not been there, they may have been back in nigeria today. at a point they considerd it

i have been in a partnership since 2019 or so. but last year was the hardest year. it was horrible. i was broke broke. we are in a much better place now , but without some external support here and there - it would have been the end

so it is a mixture of things. yes some people dont plan - but others do - and still get the stick.

if it is your friend - do what you can i guess. my sister has also come through for me a lot since then.

FEGEITOK:
I finally reached out to a friend I hadn't heard from in nearly six months, but her line wouldn't connect. She contacted me shortly after via WhatsApp.

After exchanging pleasantries, she asked how life was treating me and what I had been up to. The very next thing she did was ask:

"Please can you assist me with money?"

I responded, "What kind of money?"

She named a figure.

I replied, "Not immediately," and explained the various commitments and emergencies I'd had to deal with over the last 60 days.

So she asked, "Okay, how much can you spare?"

I told her, "You have to give me time, please."

My real question is this: Does it really make sense to sell everything and move to the UK with barely enough funds, only to end up depending on friends and family back in Nigeria to survive? Or should one only move when they have enough of a financial runway—a buffer for emergencies—to last for six months to a year?

Nigerians who have moved to the UK, which side of the divide do you identify with the lady that recently moved to the UK or me back in Nigeria?

You reached out to her first? Well.. i don't think she needs your financial help, she is trying to attack before you do and it worked

justwise:
[b]

You reached out to her first? Well.. i don't think she needs your financial help, she is trying to attack before you do and it worked

Hahahaha

justwise:
[b]

You reached out to her first? Well.. i don't think she needs your financial help, she is trying to attack before you do and it worked

I didn't ask for help.

I never intended to.

I'm doing good.

There is this feeling, I haven't seen or heard from this person in a long while.

Additionally:

She went to the UK to study

Long before she left she asked me to assist her with 5000 pounds to aid her move

I was checking to know if she was still in the country or if she had fulfilled her japa dreams

That was the motivation for reaching out nothing more nothing less.

GloriousGbola:
no matter how much you plan - you will likley still go through a baptism of fire somewhere along the line

my sister and her husband moved to the us in 2008/9 i think. he had a pwc job. she was a doctor. then he got laid off and had to go to college so he could get a degree that he could work with. it was a HARD period and everyone chipped in. today they are doing very very well. if the support had not been there, they may have been back in nigeria today. at a point they considerd it

i have been in a partnership since 2019 or so. but last year was the hardest year. it was horrible. i was broke broke. we are in a much better place now , but without some external support here and there - it would have been the end

so it is a mixture of things. yes some people dont plan - but others do - and still get the stick.

if it is your friend - do what you can i guess. my sister has also come through for me a lot since then.

Valid points

Life doesn't always go to plan

You plan, life makes other plans

Or others make other plans and rope you in

justwise:
[b]

You reached out to her first? Well.. i don't think she needs your financial help, she is trying to attack before you do and it worked

haba dem no dey follow you play?

FEGEITOK:
I didn't ask for help.

I never intended to.

I'm doing good.

There is this feeling, I haven't seen or heard from this person in a long while.

That was the motivation for reaching out nothing more nothing less.

I'm not insinuating that

Goke7:
haba dem no dey follow you play?

lol..there is nothing here to suggest otherwise..

GloriousGbola:
no matter how much you plan - you will likley still go through a baptism of fire somewhere along the line

my sister and her husband moved to the us in 2008/9 i think. he had a pwc job. she was a doctor. then he got laid off and had to go to college so he could get a degree that he could work with. it was a HARD period and everyone chipped in. today they are doing very very well. if the support had not been there, they may have been back in nigeria today. at a point they considerd it

i have been in a partnership since 2019 or so. but last year was the hardest year. it was horrible. i was broke broke. we are in a much better place now , but without some external support here and there - it would have been the end

so it is a mixture of things. yes some people dont plan - but others do - and still get the stick.

if it is your friend - do what you can i guess. my sister has also come through for me a lot since then.

So much wisdom and humility in this; very grounded statement especially at the bold.

jedisco:
People might think healthcare gives some succour which can be true to an extent. But then, its my experience there that makes me say certain things. There are alot of squabbles going on there without much public attention. As a migrant medic, some locals want you to come and suffer doing hard jobs for life while they progress and galivant. It's left for one to decide if they want to or not.

I just looked at some of the replies to the guy's post and I just dey shake my head.

It's one of the reasons why I never try to advise Nigerians I don't know from Nigeria because the same people you're trying to encourage, share updates with etc, the same ones will insult you behind your back, try to belittle you and give all sort of excuses etc.

At the end of the day, I always remember something a classmate of mine said in 2023 that sounded like a joke but entered deep into my brain --

"Na UK be this. If you no ready use your brain upskill, na you sabi. Either you use your brain, or you use your body till old age, na you go choose one"

Every mallam with in kettle and we can all do what works for us

4ever1:
Hello
I am a student in central London , and I have been looking for a shared room accommodation, and it has not been easy getting one , I need one urgently
Pls kindly help a soul

If your school is not everyday, why not seek accommodation somewhere on the outskirts? or somewhere close, say Milton Keynes?

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justwise:
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Goke7:
😂 White House Dey para

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Shey na by force?

Good advise. Many people get stuck in London because they think opportunities abound there. True enough there are a thousand and one opportunities there but you go sweat taya to grab one. Gone are they days person de hustle Cannary Wharf, now na up North, you go flex taya 😂

HustlaOfLagos:
If your school is not everyday, why not seek accommodation somewhere on the outskirts? or somewhere close, say Milton Keynes?

lavida001:
Imagine a student who came into the country single and stays with sister rent free. That sister works in corporate industry, she has made plans for him to choose the right course that will easily get him a job upon graduation while also enrolling him on other External courses like P2 making him job ready. She also paid 50% of his fees. All the said student did was to focus squarely on his academics. He graduated with flying colours acquring the a degree that is much sort after in the industry. his sister prep him for interview as she is in the industry and knows the nitty gritty of getting a job. I.e knowledge of crafting cv and sites to apply on.

At the end of the day he got a job with sponsorship. That same person will see you doing care job and look down on you and make statements like you are not upskilling and you are not doing enough.

person wey get soft landing plus right guidance go think say others no dey try or they are not applying pressure.
Nigerians go whyne you na you go use your head. By all means if you can upgrade your skill do that at your own pace and do whatever you can to remain legal.

Age is a huge factor. No go dey compare yourself with 25yrs old with no kids with 35 yrs with 2 kids or even someone who came in as a MD or with professional sponsorship.

Motivation is free na you go tailor am to suite your individual circumstances.

Stay hard!

This is a copout
And this is me being polite

Anyone who is not having some form of incremental progress OVERTIME in this country has himself to blame regardless of whatever "circumstances" you may wanna conjure as justifiable reasons for not moving ahead

It is culturally baked in among Nigerians generally to have wrong priorities and that manifests itself in many ways

bigtt76:
Good advise. Many people get stuck in London because they think opportunities abound there. True enough there are a thousand and one opportunities there but you go sweat taya to grab one. Gone are they days person de hustle Cannary Wharf, now na up North, you go flex taya 😂

There are no jobs in the North.

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