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jedisco:
Hehe. I hope UK retains a reasonable pathway as many masters students might get stuck or see themselves repeating masters and phd on-end.

If I was in Nigeria today and looking to study abroad, I wouldn't be prioritising the UK.

Or they return to their home countries after the education obtained from the UK?

Aside from Anglophone countries, where graduate education has become an enterprise, in most parts of the world, you receive education and possibly an internship, and then return home. If the UK tightens its post-school pathway, what would the students do? Protest against in a country that is not theirs? Should someone decline an offer from Oxford University simply because the post-school pathways have been tightened?

Anyway, I don't fully blame those students. If the Brits had put their yansh in one place rather than colonising almost the earth, maybe this would not be happening.

brine:
Yes bro, you need to be a director. In my case, I hold 100% of the shares and appointed another director to serve as the Authorising Officer. Yours can be structured differently like you owning 75% and the other director owning 25%. It's completely up to you

I had no idea I could be director myself as well . Pardon my apprehension, but won’t this invite more scrutiny from the HO?

Also whilst opening your account, did HO ask you to verify any other director’s identity?

Gerrard59:
Or they return to their home countries after the education obtained from the UK?

Aside from Anglophone countries, where graduate education has become an enterprise, in most parts of the world, you receive education and possibly an internship, and then return home. If the UK tightens its post-school pathway, what would the students do? Protest against in a country that is not theirs? Should someone decline an offer from Oxford University simply because the post-school pathways have been tightened?

Anyway, I don't fully blame those students. If the Brits had put their yansh in one place rather than colonising almost the earth, maybe this would not be happening.

If they didn't colonize us, someone else would have.
It is not as if we were all at peace with each other or our neighbors before colonization.

The Yorubas were constantly fighting off the fulanis and the eguns (Benin rep.), villages were fighting villages, towns to towns, empires to empires etc
If the whites had not come, chances are high the whole of Africa as a continent would have been conquered by the Muslim jihadist who were pushing from the north all the way down.
Egypt, Morocco and all northern Africans were already conquered, a large part of west, east and central Africa were already conquered - senegal, mali, Gambia, Burkina Faso, Nigeria, Chad etc

gabiomoesu:
I had no idea I could be director myself as well . Pardon my apprehension, but won’t this invite more scrutiny from the HO?

Also whilst opening your account, did HO ask you to verify any other director’s identity?

Hmmn, I'm a bit confused. If you won't be a director of the company, why would you need to write business proposals or apply for company documents?
https://www.davidsonmorris.com/self-sponsorship-visa-uk/
Quoted from the link above:

‘Self Sponsorship visa’ in the UK is a general term used to describe an immigration route that allows foreign nationals to sponsor themselves to work through their own business, without needing a traditional employer to sponsor them. This is done by acquiring or setting up a UK-based company, which then applies to the UK Home Office for a sponsor licence. Once the company is approved as a licensed sponsor, it can then assign a Certificate of Sponsorship (CoS) to the business owner, who then applies for a Skilled Worker visa.

I wasn't asked to verify the other director's identity by HO but they could ask or do further checks if the application is not straightforward.

Gerrard59:
Or they return to their home countries after the education obtained from the UK?

Aside from Anglophone countries, where graduate education has become an enterprise, in most parts of the world, you receive education and possibly an internship, and then return home. If the UK tightens its post-school pathway, what would the students do? Protest against in a country that is not theirs? Should someone decline an offer from Oxford University simply because the post-school pathways have been tightened?

Anyway, I don't fully blame those students. If the Brits had put their yansh in one place rather than colonising almost the earth, maybe this would not be happening.

The 'anglophone' or rather western nations aren't doing anyone a favour by commoditising education in same way the U.S isn't doing anyone a favour by having a monopoly over certain tech. The UK restarted the PSW visa cos it was clear they needed to provide a migration pathway to attract the students they need. It's always worth remembering that students are here cos the UK allowed and needs them. Education is a front door to modern migration and most migrants who moved as students have sacrificed more than most migrating folks have in all of human history.


Ultimately, those that pay also influence the market. If the UK makes it too difficult, students will vote with their feet. We've been there before. It's up to those paying 20k for fees to determine what value they deem adequate from fees they pay.

brine:
Hmmn, I'm a bit confused. If you won't be a director of the company, why would you need to write business proposals or apply for company documents?
https://www.davidsonmorris.com/self-sponsorship-visa-uk/
Quoted from the link above:


I wasn't asked to verify the other director's identity by HO but they could ask or do further checks if the application is not straightforward.

Bruh! Now what you said about using a home address as the primary place of business makes total sense. I’d (wrongly) assumed from the outset that anything linking the company to myself would be flagged as malpractice by HO, so I’ve done everything to distance myself from the entire thing thus far. What a shame!

Throughout my research, I’ve (again, injudiciously) disregarded content from immigration lawyers/experts. Anyways, my eyes are wide open now. The shock i dey feel no even wan make my brain process this wonderful news you tell me just now.

Yes, id assumed Monzo wouldn't bother to verify the other director if I had 100% of the shares.

Thanks a lot for your helpful response. For real, you're the best for this! Mad respect, bro!

Modified: @Brine Since I’m now getting closer to the sponsor licence application, I’m wondering what I’ll need from my AO. Will I need their ID, proof of address or any signed letter of consent? I’ve read through the gov.uk stuff but I want to understand how it works in practice, especially what the HO actually checks or requests from the AO during the application. Also do you know if I need to get a liability insurance for the company?

Hello fellas,

My child is back in Nigeria to finish secondary school, she's going to be out of the UK for more than 180days. I understand ILR eligibility requires 180 days presence out of 365 days, Will my daughter be impacted if I apply for ILR next year for the entire family? She would have been back before the ILR application.
@Zahra, Justwise, others

If there are holidays in between, let her fly back for short holidays just to break the 180 days but then might need to explain the long absence, my thoughts

luqken:
Hello fellas,

My child is back in Nigeria to finish secondary school, she's going to be out of the UK for more than 180days. I understand ILR eligibility requires 180 days presence out of 365 days, Will my daughter be impacted if I apply for ILR next year for the entire family? She would have been back before the ILR application.
@Zahra, Justwise, others

What if a dependent on SWV is the one running the company and wants to use this as a vehicle to sponsor the main applicant to maintain the continuous path to ILR?

That is - if the dependent is the director and self-sponsor, they lose the accumulated years to ILR and would have to restart counting?

brine:
Hmmn, I'm a bit confused. If you won't be a director of the company, why would you need to write business proposals or apply for company documents?
https://www.davidsonmorris.com/self-sponsorship-visa-uk/
Quoted from the link above:


I wasn't asked to verify the other director's identity by HO but they could ask or do further checks if the application is not straightforward.

jedisco:
My question was simple- at what point does the change occur?
I see kids of colleagues and I dont see a Suelette or Kemi in them. At what point is that thinking likely to take hold?

Je ne sais pas.

You could try increasing your sample size though... E.g. kids and other relatives of colleagues, friends, township members etc...you might find the Suelette,Kemi, Judas you're looking for.

luqken:
Hello fellas,

My child is back in Nigeria to finish secondary school, she's going to be out of the UK for more than 180days. I understand ILR eligibility requires 180 days presence out of 365 days, Will my daughter be impacted if I apply for ILR next year for the entire family? She would have been back before the ILR application.
@Zahra, Justwise, others

Hi, dependant children are not subject to limits on any absences from the UK I.e your daughter is exempt from the 180 day absence rule and it shouldn't affect her ILR eligibility as long as she meets other relevant requirements such as parental eligibility etc.

luqken:
Hello fellas,

My child is back in Nigeria to finish secondary school, she's going to be out of the UK for more than 180days. I understand ILR eligibility requires 180 days presence out of 365 days, Will my daughter be impacted if I apply for ILR next year for the entire family? She would have been back before the ILR application.

Just curious....Did he or she fvck up??

Our first born just sent his kid to Nigeria too...the 13 year old werey did things my adult mind can't even imagine on a very very wild day...

jedisco:
The 'anglophone' or rather western nations aren't doing anyone a favour by commoditising education in same way the U.S isn't doing anyone a favour by having a monopoly over certain tech. The UK restarted the PSW visa cos it was clear they needed to provide a migration pathway to attract the students they need. It's always worth remembering that students are here cos the UK allowed and needs them. Education is a front door to modern migration and most migrants who moved as students have sacrificed more than most migrating folks have in all of human history.


Ultimately, those that pay also influence the market. If the UK makes it too difficult, students will vote with their feet. We've been there before. It's up to those paying 20k for fees to determine what value they deem adequate from fees they pay.

📢 UK Government: "PSW/Graduate route to be cut from 24 months to 18 months for applications on or after January 1, 2027"

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/migrants-will-be-required-to-pass-a-level-standard-of-english

Other changes include
- Increased financial requirement for student visas
- Increased English requirement for skilled worker and other routes
- Expansion of the High Potential Individual (HPI) route to graduates from the top 100 international universities

Gerrard59:
Or they return to their home countries after the education obtained from the UK?

Aside from Anglophone countries, where graduate education has become an enterprise, in most parts of the world, you receive education and possibly an internship, and then return home. If the UK tightens its post-school pathway, what would the students do? Protest against in a country that is not theirs? Should someone decline an offer from Oxford University simply because the post-school pathways have been tightened?

Anyway, I don't fully blame those students. If the Brits had put their yansh in one place rather than colonising almost the earth, maybe this would not be happening.

Not totally true

France and Germany have a clear path for international students to eventually become citizens

Poland as funny as it sounds even have a pathway for international students to get work permits

These countries know what they are doing

Britain will continue drawing students here, sieving the best brains and luring them to stay via Global talent Visa and surreptitiously chasing out the riff raffs.....

Even China is mulling creating a pathway for international students to stay beyond their studies

Global competition for talent has become fierce

But anyways

HustlaOfLagos:
Cheap rent abi?

lmao
Life is easier here
London is a mad house even though I am there often

jedisco:
Hehe. I hope UK retains a reasonable pathway as many masters students might get stuck or see themselves repeating masters and phd on-end.

If I was in Nigeria today and looking to study abroad, I wouldn't be prioritising the UK.

Home office have expressly warned all universities against issuing CAS to students who want to do another masters UNLESS it is MRes or maybe MBA

Schools are not even issuing CAS again in that regard (well lemme speak for my school, we are not)

Even PhD admission don "tie wrapper"

There are only so many students each of us can take to supervise.

Its crazy

jedisco:
The 'anglophone' or rather western nations aren't doing anyone a favour by commoditising education in same way the U.S isn't doing anyone a favour by having a monopoly over certain tech. The UK restarted the PSW visa cos it was clear they needed to provide a migration pathway to attract the students they need. It's always worth remembering that students are here cos the UK allowed and needs them. Education is a front door to modern migration and most migrants who moved as students have sacrificed more than most migrating folks have in all of human history.


Ultimately, those that pay also influence the market. If the UK makes it too difficult, students will vote with their feet. We've been there before. It's up to those paying 20k for fees to determine what value they deem adequate from fees they pay.

Well said

Though I have a slightly differing opinion on paragraph 2

Raalsalghul:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/10/prisons-face-staff-shortage-foreign-officers-forced-go-home/

Interestingly, the Prison service is one of the few sponsoring graduates. Why dont they just upgrade the exisiting staff rather than take on new sponsorship

bigtt76:
Good advise. Many people get stuck in London because they think opportunities abound there. True enough there are a thousand and one opportunities there but you go sweat taya to grab one. Gone are they days person de hustle Cannary Wharf, now na up North, you go flex taya 😂

Current SWV salary threshold is above the country's median rate. Not many employers in places outside london, the south east or the big cities can sponsor.

Those who find sponsorship outside the big higher income cities are often those on jobs where the home office allows discounted salaries.

How many employers in Wales will cover the cost of sponsorship and pay over £40k pa?

Manchester, Leeds, Scotland and Newcastle all have a fair share of high paying roles that can be sponsored though.

Fred2020:
Current SWV salary threshold is above the country's median rate. Not many employers in places outside london, the south east or the big cities can sponsor.

Those who find sponsorship outside the big higher income cities are often those on jobs where the home office allows discounted salaries.

How many employers in Wales will cover the cost of sponsorship and pay over £40k pa?

Zahra29:
Hi, dependant children are not subject to limits on any absences from the UK I.e your daughter is exempt from the 180 day absence rule and it shouldn't affect her ILR eligibility as long as she meets other relevant requirements such as parental eligibility etc.

Thank you Zahra29 has always. Please can you direct me to a document that provides this clarification. I really appreciate your assistance

advanceDNA:
Just curious....Did he or she fvck up??

Our first born just sent his kid to Nigeria too...the 13 year old werey did things my adult mind can't even imagine on a very very wild day...

Not really it's precautionary and I also see that she's not being challenged enough here which is making her regress. There's so much potentials I have seen from way back while we were in Naija which this system is suppressing.

So what happened to your Nephew or Niece that made your brother sent him/her home?

RodgersAkpafu:
lmao
Life is easier here
London is a mad house even though I am there often

Do you travel from the North to London for work?

advanceDNA:
Just curious....Did he or she fvck up??

Our first born just sent his kid to Nigeria too...the 13 year old werey did things my adult mind can't even imagine on a very very wild day...

Could you share?

I never born yet, but I already have it in mind that some parts of school, preferably Secondary sch/ Uni must be spent in Naija.

Non negotiable

luqken:
Not really it's precautionary and I also see that she's not being challenged enough here which is making her regress. There's so much potentials I have seen from way back while we were in Naija which this system is suppressing.

So what happened to your Nephew or Niece that made your brother sent him/her home?

It seems the system of education here is quite lax

I have gotten "complaints" from a few friends here about this too.

HustlaOfLagos:
Do you travel from the North to London for work?

Once in a while

HustlaOfLagos:
It seems the system of education here is quite lax

I have gotten "complaints" from a few friends here about this too.

The bolded is a lie

Secondary school education in Britain is BY FAR better than that of Nigeria

Sam Sam

No basis for comparison at all

Like for like
Or anyhow sef

As someone who had a short stint in secondary school classroom experience when I was hustling as a student those days, I have seen FIRST HAND that UK secondary schools are way better

Especially the ones under very good Trusts

Your child will come out a well grounded and rounded child because what they are actually getting IS AN EDUCATION

Not the crap we think is education that we parade in secondary schools in Nigeria, where kids are bereft of critical thinking, but lean too much on rote memorisation

Pls dont even get me started lol
Rich Chinese ppl are even sending their kids to come do secondary school and A levels here as a transition path to Russell group university education
Same for Russians (tho I am more familiar with Chinese)

RodgersAkpafu:
As someone who had a short stint in secondary school classroom experience when I was hustling as a student those days, I have seen FIRST HAND that UK secondary schools are way better

Especially the ones under very good Trusts

Your child will come out a well grounded and rounded child because what they are actually getting IS AN EDUCATION

Not the crap we think is education that we parade in secondary schools in Nigeria, where kids are bereft of critical thinking, but lean too much on rote memorisation

Pls dont even get me started lol
Rich Chinese ppl are even sending their kids to come do secondary school and A levels here as a transition path to Russell group university education
Same for Russians (tho I am more familiar with Chinese)

La cram la pour 🤣

luqken:
So what happened to your Nephew or Niece that made your brother sent him/her home?

Abeg ooo...i can't share that one here....