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AdolfHitlerxXx:
They think we are not bright 🌞

"The leather on seat of tear-rubber car isn't comfortable for behind so.... Buy Tokunboh "

God forbid.

SpencerForbes:
Seriously though, is he trying to live his sister's life for her? 😂 Someone is talking about his own family decisions, and suddenly his sisters are part of the conversation. Plus, how do you even know his sisters aren't already married?

Not everyone is looking for a virgin bride, anyway. Some guys actually prefer women who are experienced, especially in the oza room , but others have simply decided they want a virgin. That's a personal choice, and it should be respected.

The main takeaway here is that marriage isn't something you should ever rush into. You absolutely have to lay down a solid foundation before committing. If you rush the entrance, you're almost certainly going to rush the exit.
And one more thing: how exactly does his decision to marry a virgin ‘spoil someone’s daughter life? That makes zero sense.

Gggjhhj:
The guy is so much about he needs to marry a virgin, how would he know if she is even a virgin is it by mere talk, I feel him capitalizing so much on virgin, his sister would have married chaste or they are still virgins.
Virgin doesn't translate to having a good home, people could change even in marriage, if he is requesting for virgins, he should be one too.
I think is double standard for him to look for a virgin where he is not

SkengRay:
@Dtruthspeaker I really Want to understand your moral philosophy? Are you Against marrying of Virgins or What Bruv I don't get it. Because of someone's experience you use it to make final judgement?

SpencerForbes:
Too many guys are thinking with their third legs instead of their actual heads. Nobody is claiming a virgin is automatically perfect, but it's about choosing the lesser of two evils or the greater good ...

jmoore:
You go explain tire. You are free to marry ashaw. Let those that want virgins go for it.

Why is their choice giving you migraine?

ZombieDredd:
Marry your olosho in peace.

Let others marry their virgins in peace too

Dtruthspeaker:
See desperation ooo. Where did I say don't marry your virgin?

The only thing I said is just like the guys case, "E no go work". Una go still cry!

So marry your virgin or marry ashawo, e no affect me. Na still you go carry your load

jmoore:
Why are you still crying na?

E dey affect you cos you are wailing.

Dtruthspeaker:
Says the one who rushed in here crying that I am telling you not to marry a virgin.

our plan no go still work even if you find virgin. You go still cry like your brother wey don do am already while you still dey find virgin since 2 years now.

jmoore:
Another noise.

It is like mocking someone that bought a brandnew car fresh from the factory while you are driving a tenth hand car with 2 million km mileage.

Dtruthspeaker:
Hmmm! Dicey!!

You see, I am respecting people's choices so I am not trying to impose the Christian values which I was just lucky not to fall into.

And in as much as I did not fall into it, nevertheless, I have been studying it's patterns and ways for years especially as I really wanted to understand why God Says we should not do it.

And the more I discover why, the more I have been shouting "God thank you for saving me oo". For I see I would have died and lamented just as everyone else and complaining and strategizing on how to have a good marriage and a sweet living at the same time.

And so I have come to see in the end no matter what strategy man cooks up to evade all the bad things waiting for him, he still ends up falling into them.

And now people are changing to strategy of marrying a as virgin and always tell them that it won't still work. But as usual with God's Words, they will never believe nor listen.

So this guy's case is a public confirmation of when I say it won't work for God has made only One Way where we could have everything we want. And this starts by man knowing that God is always right and man will always be wrong.

So that is the moral.

And as I said I am not judging anybody but as God saved me from that way to the point that I now understand what is happening and what MUST happen, I am just trying to forewarn any one who might be seeing and thinking all these things and saying to themselves that they do not want to be a part of all this mess. And of course I know many won't listen but maybe 1 will.

Dtruthspeaker:
Come to remember this, you people first said you wanted virgins before only to later cry that non virgins are better. Changing up and down.

https://www.nairaland.com/1451014/men-still-care-virgins#18318516

Re: Do Men Still Care About Virgins? by stan4b(m): 8:46pm On Sep 23, 2013
I don't wish my wife to b a virgin. I want a woman dat will just love nd understand me,nd knw hw to give me a good time in bed,nt some virgins dat will b scared to av good sex nd romance.

https://www.nairaland.com/1140185/nigerian-men-what-shes-not#13502746

Re: Nigerian Men, So What If She's Not A Virgin? by Andrew3(m): 7:31pm On Dec 22, 2012
F uck all virgins, will walk pass even if i see one.

na mama agba i dey look for grin grin grin

Let me just press the refresh buttons.

SkengRay:
Funny guy . 1. God Doesn't Exist under Any Religion and those rules you claim existed were created by Men like you.

SkengRay:
2. No one can forecast the future Most guys clamoring to marry a virgin may not even end up with one, Some may end up not getting married.

There are lots of Pastors with broken marriages even though they abided by the rules of the Bible, They are Prostitutes and damaged people (both gender)that had Solid Relationships. You can abide by rules of the Bible you will still have challenges in one Aspect of Life or Another. Now to Marriage you don't just pick a Random partner they're a lot of factors that are meant to be Carefully evaluated. Being a Virgin or not doesn't determine how strong the marriage is going to last. You partner being a Virgin means she's Sexually disciplined and has sexual purity no more no less? If one chooses a partner solely based on virginity the marriage will fail.

SpencerForbes:
What is really the problem Are you feeling guilty?? Because I don’t see what you’re trying to preach. Maybe you’re guilty your wife’s past can come to haunt you both. Not everyone will marry virgins. The few that wants to marry, let them do. I don’t see the need for the post.

Would you rather advise young men should marry a woman with more than 100 body counts, What are you teaching young girls?

Maybe if majority of us were to go back to our forefathers ways when it comes to virginity, maybe we’ll be able to curb the promiscuity of young girls in the society.

Stop preaching rab bish please.

jmoore:
You still dey cry na. Cry us Atlantic ocean

Dtruthspeaker:
You can see that I don't have a problem rather I am just here wondering how long it would take for people to see that they are f00....s and that they can never get it right.

Let me make it even worser, some people (actually many people are not qualified to marry a virgin and God will never allow them to. And a virgin girl who made the mistake of marrying them is a f000... and she will even later real eyes it and the marriage will still scatter like the one the guy is going through.

And you know the funny thing, the ex boyfriend may even be the one encouraging her to continue in the marriage which is why she would even love him more and will now want to be around him more hence the long phone calls. Ehen, I have made it worse.

SpencerForbes:
The virgin’s ex boyfriend If a virgin hasn’t bonded with a guy sexually, how are you sure she loved him?

Why do you think some men don’t deserve virgins?

There’s no ex boyfriend when it comes to virginity. If she loved him as much as she thought, she wouldn’t still be a virgin. Women prove their love through sex. Bring another argument.

Dtruthspeaker:
Do you not see how he is shaking because it is ex boyfriend?

It's the law of congo dynamics.

The Congo may not have been shined but the whole body and breast and mouth and the visible part of the Congo has been shined. So now that uncle has taken the honour of opening the road, she now needs full service.

And go and check his threads, I told him 2yrs back that the wife will not be happy that while she was a virgin, he was not. And he went into detail. And now, it is all coming together.

As I said I am just a social scientist watching the going one and I stand to be corrected.

Fiscus105:
Brand new car of Toyota Camry with Tokunbo Prado jeep.


I guess you will go for brand new Camry.


Virginity good, but choose good character above virginity.

Several virgins wives are messing around after marriage, try to reason like adult and not teen.

Dtruthspeaker:
Of course God is above all religions, so that one is moot. But where did you see men telling you not to fornicte? When they are the ones even telling you that if you no mash that babe you fv k up.



No man can but God has already told us. And today we have all read again and again about all their ends.

And I said being a virgin is a good start, there are still other rules you still have to obey before you get a good, no great marriage.

But for now, i am just saying that all your ways will never work even if the couples are virgins. But as I said, you people always think that you are wiser than God, so, I am here to watch the failures. And for anyone who is about to toe that same way, I am saying failure is waiting for them

SkengRay:
What are the Rules Amigo I will like to learn? God Told us bro? Religion has absolutely nothing to do with God. Right and Wrong was decided by humans. You think God has anything to do with the Bible. You so called bullshit rules has no effect on the divine Order. Obeying Rules won't decide you'd have a perfect lasting marriage. And it's ironic your moniker is named truth speaker when you haven't searched for the truth, you just followed what the Society gave you

SkengRay:
check the new edit @Dtruthspeaker

SkengRay:
What are the Rules Amigo I will like to learn? God Told us bro? Religion has absolutely nothing to do with God. Right and Wrong was decided by humans. You think God has anything to do with the Bible. You so called bullshit rules has no effect on the divine Order. Obeying Rules won't decide you'd have a perfect lasting marriage. And it's ironic your moniker is named truth speaker when you haven't searched for the truth, you just followed what the Society gave you

Dtruthspeaker:
First, right and wrong was not laid by men. It was God Who did it through what is called Natural Law. And because of it every man is forced to confess the Truth of what is Right as different from what is wrong even when they don't want to. Any opposition here?

SkengRay:
Interesting point, but if natural law truly forces everyone to know right from wrong, how do we explain the vast moral disagreements across cultures and history? People have justified slavery, war, and oppression were they ‘forced’ to know it was wrong? Even among deeply religious people, interpretations of right and wrong vary widely. If morality were truly innate and universal, such debates wouldn’t exist?

Dtruthspeaker:
Go and check it. There is no disagreement on all the natural law precepts. Eg in every place it is agreed that fair agreements (contracts) should be kept and honoured. And it is agreed everywhere that cheating and adultery is bad. And it is agreed that it is not right to in slave anyone.

So, you can see the disagreement is always coming from the people who do not have to do the right and good thing.

It is always a Wike. Dperson who after he has in slaved a person who came to serve him that will now say "wetin concern you? Is he your servant? is he not doing my work? You are there complaining instead of you to go and do your own". Or the second circumstance of where a neighbour saw how he was doing, then said he would do his own as he too does not like honour contracts, as they say "e easy to pay salary?"

So this is how the confusion and so called disagreement started.

Meanwhile, the natural law never changed and from ancient days till tomorrow when the world ends, it is always the Law that fair contracts must be kept and honoured and cheating/adultery is bad, no matter what man may say

SkengRay:
I agree natural laws can't be changed but The laws you listed here have nothing to do natural laws these human moral frameworks. Killing someone is Said to be Bad what if I killed someone has an act of self defense? No it isn't.

SkengRay:
in
Deuteronomy 22: 20-21 it talked about stoning to death of female non virgin, my Question to you is 1. Is that Right or wrong 2. Was that Order from God?

Dtruthspeaker:
Natural law also created what is called "self defence" and damages and restitution. And self defence, payment of damages and restitution are all good

Exodus
18 And if men strive together, and one smite another with a stone, or with his fist, and he die not, but keepeth his bed:

19 If he rise again, and walk abroad upon his staff, then shall he that smote him be quit: only he shall pay for the loss of his time, and shall cause him to be thoroughly healed.

(Exodus 22:2–3).

"If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him"

Two basic principles taught in this text are the right to own private property and the right to defend that property, even if it causes the death of the trespasser assailant.

Also self defence came to play and availed Moses when he killed the Egyptian trying to kill his Israelite brother. And that was why God still worked with him.

Black’s Law Dictionary, self-defence is protecting oneself or property against injury attempted by another

AI Overview
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Key Factors in Self-Defense Cases | Justin E. Sterling
Self-defense is the act of protecting oneself, one's family, or one's property from a physical attack, often by using force.

And none of these laws were created by men. Every man was born knowing it and acting under it which is why even right from childhood when our classmate did that chair pulling thing, we did him back.


First, is being a non virgin good?

Nairaland people have already answered that it is not good as non virgins are rejected as proven by the virgin or nothing fellas.

https://www.nairaland.com/8467761/should-marry-33-year-old-virgin-23-year-old/4#136002571

So you see non virgins are already in the Wrong area.

And remember that Deuteronomy 22:20 starts from 13/14 showing a woman who deceived the man who wanted to marry her that she is a virgin, by not telling him (a fact that till tomorrow still pains all men) where everyone is a virgin, so he naturally presumed that she is one.

13 If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her,

14 And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid:

Now you see why non virgins had to run away from their lands and join a vagabond murderer or thief to go to a place where they can start their own land where fv.ki.ng fornication and adultery must be allowed. So you see where and how your supposed moral disagreement started from?

And this is where towns and cities started from as more criminals running from judgement ran to those places and those places became a haven for them. And that is why you see it is in such places you find brot.hels

And it is them who caused armed robbery, banditry, slavery, colonialism, Taxism, war as that non virgin and her murder causing vagabond husband and the people that follow them must steal and kill and destroy to be rich and to increase their riches

And that is why it is said
We do not look in great cities for our best morality. Jane Austen,

Game of thrones also shows you

Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish
"Look around you. We're all liars here. And every one of us is better than you."
He delivers this line to Sansa Stark in Season 2, Episode 10, when Sanza stark was lying about going home.