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SkengRay:
I can see Ai written all over this you're getting this mixed up. Natural laws are the rules the universe follows by itself examples are laws of polarity, Cause and effect, Laws of Gravity e.t.c. all the Rules you are here yapping about are morals of conduct that was created by men. Man Created Religion ( God Said you should do this and that), man Created Social Rules and legal systems. The Bible you're quoting here was written by Priest, Historians and the likes and it has been alter over time. Religion originated from Culture, you can't talk about religion and not talk about culture they are imbedded with one another. Christianity originated from the Jews it Spread down to the Romans that edited , shaped and Politicized which then became a tool of colonization. A Question to you How did Christianity come by to Nigeria I bet you've never even thought of it. The major Religion ( both Christianity and Islam) were used to keep obedient. It's either you Obey or you perish in Hell that is what is used to keep in World in check. You saying every man knowing what was wrong and whats right is a blatant lie. Jean Jacques said and I quote " Humans were born Free, and everywhere he is in chains. This means we were born with a clean mind we were first taught what was wrong and right by our parents and then the society( schools, churches, mosques e.t.c) or you'd say you knew what was wrong and Right at the Age of 3? Impossible we were imprinted with these morals by society. You didn't even answer the Questions I asked as expected it was direct as as it should be. So it's pointless going back and forth on that topic. Your mind has been altered already and only you can break free from it, like Marcus Garvey said " Emancipate yourselves from mental Slavery no but over selves can free our mind. This Religion has colonized used completely telling us what is Right or Wrong saying it's ordained from God. It's has told us to reject our culture claiming it is evil but asking you lots to cling to it's culture.

It is clear my response shocked you into coma and so in your bid to cope and live you are now trying to dodge and move away from the issue by trying to raise new ones since you see that you cannot counter my answer.

And that is why you wish to blame it on A.i. meanwhile I have said all these several years ago in the different threads including some of my own.

Of which I did a thread on this some weeks back when I met another person like you on the Soyinka Visa thread who did not know and I schooled him. And till today, he still cannot find any valid thing to say.
https://www.nairaland.com/8556733/natural-law-vs-artificial-law#137393653

So, you both are showing how ill educated and misled you people are as you do not know history meanwhile you are thinking law started with your legislators, something that only just started here now now in 1960 which maybe to you 2006 babies sounds like 1900.

https://www.nairaland.com/8551321/visas-privileges-not-rights-us/6#137317320

Go and read up if you like and if you have any reasonable question to ask, drop it, and I'll address it as best as I can.

And do note, it is clear that you are confused as you've got a lot of stu.... & silly untidy sheet running in your mind without order and clarity. For instance anong all the rawb.ish in your mind, in the bold you say "Natural laws are the rules the universe follows by itself examples are laws of polarity, Cause and effect, Laws of Gravity e.t.c"

So, who is the universe, is it you the man and human beings and animals or is it the universe of moon, sun, stars, mercy etc? Let's see what you mind will produce

Dtruthspeaker:
Now you are moving away from the issue and trying to raise new ones since you see that you cannot counter my answer. And that is why you wish to blame it on A.i. meanwhile I have said all these several years ago in the different threads including some of my own.

Of which I did a thread on this some weeks back when I met another person like you on the Soyinka Visa thread who did not know and I schooled him. And till today, he still cannot find any valid thing to say.
https://www.nairaland.com/8556733/natural-law-vs-artificial-law#137393653

So, you both are showing how ill educated and misled you people are as you do not know history meanwhile you are thinking law started with your legislators, something that only just started here now now in 1960 which maybe to you 2006 babies sounds like 1900.

https://www.nairaland.com/8551321/visas-privileges-not-rights-us/6#137317320

Go and read up if you like and if you have any reasonable question to ask, drop it, and I'll address it as best as I can.

And do note, it is clear that you are confused as you've got a lot of stu.... & silly untidy sheet running in your mind without order and clarity. For instance anong all the rawb.ish in your mind, in the bold you say "Natural laws are the rules the universe follows by itself examples are laws of polarity, Cause and effect, Laws of Gravity e.t.c"

So, who is the universe, is it you the man and human beings and animals or is it the universe of moon, sun, stars, mercy etc? Let's see what you mind will produce

it is pointless going back and forth with you. You prove already that you're an ignoramus, my Debate is forcing you to think but you refuse to. You think you've figured it out. What a clown . Thinking one way won't help you to see things clearly. You can reflect on my comments maybe you might figure it out someday. Peace out.

SkengRay:
. all the Rules you are here yapping about are morals of conduct that was created by men.

Tell us when did men sit down and create the law saying "agreements should be kept, every man is entitled to fair hearing, every man should respect the rights of others etc"? And who are the men who you say created morals?

SkengRay:
Man Created Religion ( God Said you should do this and that), man Created Social Rules and legal systems.
The Bible you're quoting here was written by Priest, Historians and the likes and it has been alter over time.

How is this relevant?
Even your maths, chemistry and biology textbooks and your fake manmade laws have been reviewed and revised several times since 1960, so how is this a problem? And how does it address the issue?

You are just looking for new arguments to make
.

SkengRay:
Religion originated from Culture, you can't talk about religion and not talk about culture they are imbedded with one another.
Christianity originated from the Jews it Spread down to the Romans that edited , shaped and Politicized which then became a tool of colonization.

All these are definitely off point!

SkengRay:
A Question to you How did Christianity come by to Nigeria I bet you've never even thought of it. The major Religion ( both Christianity and Islam) were used to keep obedient. It's either you Obey or you perish in Hell that is what is used to keep in World in check.

You obviously think that you are talking to your mate born in 2008. I understand now, you are gen z so you no nothing other than what social media said and what your stu atheists teacher said.

Whereas if you had sense you would have seen that you too have heard about hell and yet you carry hook up, up and down just like everybody else, so how has hell controlled you?

SkengRay:
it is pointless going back and forth with you. You prove already that you're an ignoramus, my Debate is forcing you to think but you refuse to. You think you've figured it out. What a clown . Thinking one way won't help you to see things clearly. You can reflect on my comments maybe you might figure it out someday. Peace out.

You say this because you real eyes that you can not answer any of my questions without it disgracing you which is why you are crying.

But i understand, aggression and denial is always the first reaction that follows when Truth is given.

Dtruthspeaker:
Tell us when did men sit down and create the law saying "agreements should be kept, every man is entitled to fair hearing, every man should respect the rights of others etc"? And who are the men who you say created morals?



How is this relevant?
Even your maths, chemistry and biology textbooks and your fake manmade laws have been reviewed and revised several times since 1960, so how is this a problem? And how does it address the issue?

You are just looking for new arguments to make
.


All these are definitely off point!



You obviously think that you are talking to your mate born in 2008. I understand now, you are gen z so you no nothing other than what social media said and what your stu atheists teacher said.

Whereas if you had sense you would have seen that you too have heard about hell and yet you carry hook up, up and down just like everybody else, so how has hell controlled you?

I understand that Reasoning is Hard for the likes of People like you. But Resulting to insult in a Logical Argument is disappointing. Ok even if I was born in 2008 between the both of us right now you're the one throwing tantrums and acting like a toddler because the truth goes against everything you were spoonfed

SkengRay:
I understand that Reasoning is Hard for the likes of People like you. But Resulting to insult in a Logical Argument is disappointing. Ok even if I was born in 2008 between the both of us right now you're the one throwing tantrums and acting like a toddler because the truth goes against everything you were spoonfed

Since when did asking pointed questions become an insult or tantrum display?

It is even you who went atrantuming, which is what I was taken in as I expressed in writing.

And of course all these is a distraction as you can now see that you cannot answer the questions advanced which lands exactly on my points and your lack of answer proves how far wrong you are, which you are slowly real eyesing.

As I said, I understand aggression and denials are always the first reactions towards Truth.

So, if you don't have any reasonable question or query, all my points are made especially as I also said you could go check them out to see if they are True or not.

But the records clearly show that you could not answer the questions given you.

SpencerForbes:
For a man, the core reason for marriage is to have children—procreation. Everything else is secondary or optional.

Speak for yourself. You are not every man.

ThaThinka:
Speak for yourself. You are not every man.

Nah….. Anybody that doesn’t share your view is immature. Grandpa I’ve lived more than three decades and with what I’ve seen, people like you love what I’ll term willful blindness and you believe in fantasy but I’m more of a realist.

Can you list other reasons why you are married, let’s hear your lies. Papa

I’m not a man, I’m a lady seems the joint you went to gave you undiluted ethanol.

SpencerForbes:
Nah….. Anybody that doesn’t share your view is immature. Grandpa I’ve lived more than three decades and with what I’ve seen, people like you love what I’ll term willful blindness and you believe in fantasy but I’m more of a realist.

Can you list other reasons why you are married, let’s hear your lies. Papa

I’m not a man, I’m a lady seems the joint you went to gave you undiluted ethanol.

Who else mentioned immaturity? You did and I guess that says it all. Again, I say stop generalising!

Yes, I am a grandpa but I am not married. And you have lived more than three decades, right? Oh, well...

Was procreation the immediate reason why God fashioned Eve for Adam?

As for being a lady, you see say you're a confused person for having "m" next to your username. Or was it the "undiluted ethanol" you referred to that you've been on?

ThaThinka:
Who else mentioned immaturity? You did and I guess that says it all. Again, I say stop generalising!

Yes, I am a grandpa but I am not married. And you are lived more than three decades, right? Oh, well...

Was procreation the immediate reason why God fashioned Eve for Adam?

As for being a lady, you see say you're a confused person for having "m" next to your username. Or was it the "undiluted ethanol" you referred to that you've been on?

Go into the world and multiply was a commandment given to who??

What’s the opposite of man/woman right?? So what were you insinuating when you said I’m not a man?? That I am who, an angel or AI?? I love debating but the moment you take it personal, be ready for a clap back.

Does the ladies you see now have any positive resemblance to the eve you mentioned??
Don’t wake up, keep living in ancient imagination. Adam didn’t pay any money to eve’s father as dowry. So don’t pay anything since you want to compare this generation to paradise. Don’t even do traditional marriage. Just carry her to your house since she’s your ‘soul mate’ or ‘helpmate’

Another info, eve was a virgin when Adam met her so the helpmate was directed to a virgin not evening newspaper.

SpencerForbes:
Go into the world and multiply was a commandment given to who??

What’s the opposite of man/woman right?? So what were you insinuating when you said I’m not a man?? That I am who, an angel or AI?? I love debating but the moment you take it personal, be ready for a clap back.

Does the ladies you see now have any positive resemblance to the eve you mentioned??
Don’t wake up, keep living in ancient imagination. Adam didn’t pay any money to eve’s father as dowry. So don’t pay anything since you want to compare this generation to paradise. Don’t even do traditional marriage. Just carry her to your house since she’s your ‘soul mate’ or ‘helpmate’

Another info, eve was a virgin when Adam met her so the helpmate was directed to a virgin not evening newspaper.

You're just all over the place. Could you point to the insinuation?

My reference to Eve had to do with the account in Genesis since I profess the Christian faith. You may go read Genesis 2:18-25 and see if "go and multiply" was the immediate reason for her.

I don't know why; you're beginning to come across like a particular character on here that I have started to ignore. Just interested in countering everything (arguing from personal biases) without assessing matters critically.

ThaThinka:
You're just all over the place. Could you point to the insinuation?

My reference to Eve had to do with the account in Genesis since I profess the Christian faith. You may go read Genesis 2:18-25 and see if "go and multiply" was the immediate reason for her.

I don't know why; you're beginning to come across like a particular character on here that I have started to ignore. Just interested in countering everything (arguing from personal biases) without assessing matters critically.

I like people like you because once attacked, they always bring the victim card meanwhile they threw the first jab. Telling a guy he’s not man is total emasculation but that’s bygone (seems you’ve modified it or I misread. If the fault is mine, I apologize) I saw you’re not even a man

The subject was on virginity and I told you the main purpose of marriage is procreation. I never said that’s the sole purpose. Other purposes are secondary and some tertiary which you can get elsewhere (sex, support from families etc)

You mentioned eve and my question is was Eve a virgin? Yes

So why should you pay bride price for a lady that knows all the hotels in her area??

Dtruthspeaker:
Of course God is above all religions, so that one is moot. But where did you see men telling you not to fornicte? When they are the ones even telling you that if you no mash that babe you fv k up.



No man can but God has already told us. And today we have all read again and again about all their ends.

And I said being a virgin is a good start, there are still other rules you still have to obey before you get a good, no great marriage.

But for now, i am just saying that all your ways will never work even if the couples are virgins. But as I said, you people always think that you are wiser than God, so, I am here to watch the failures. And for anyone who is about to toe that same way, I am saying failure is waiting for them

it seems you have Short term memory here it is Son. Everything I say is facts

SkengRay:
it seems you have Short term memory here it is Son. Everything I say is facts

Since when did "God is above all religions" mean "God belongs to a religion"? Boy, your head is leaking profusely

O what deadly blows have you received to the point you are leaking all over the place and now you are mixing up facts.

Boy, go and heal first. The beatings you have taken are too much.

Dtruthspeaker:
Since when did "God is above all religions" mean "God belongs to a religion"? Boy, your head is leaking profusely

O what deadly blows have you received to the point you are leaking all over the place and now you are mixing up facts.

Boy, go and heal first. The beatings you have taken are too much.

Man you don't understand basic logic I doubt you ever attended tertiary institution if God is Above Religion then that means he doesn't belong to any Religion Simple. Stop doing Cocaine bro

SkengRay:
Man you don't understand basic logic I doubt you ever attended tertiary institution if God is Above Religion then that means he doesn't belong to any Religion Simple. Stop doing Cocaine bro

So, as the ceiling in your house is above, so it does not belong to you and your house? Please stop disgracing yourself na.

Dtruthspeaker:
So, as the ceiling in your house is above, so it does not belong to you and your house? Please stop disgracing yourself na.

c'mon bro. Religion has Enslaved your mental capabilities see the analogy you're bringing up. God is Above Religion. Religion is Made by Man. God Never spoke Directly to any man Your roof analogy doesn’t work because a roof is a physical part of a house, built from the same materials. God and religion are not the same category. Religion is a human system, God is the source it tries to describe. Saying God belongs to religion is like saying an author belongs to the book he wrote?. You you have any amount of reasoning you'd know that doesn't make any sense

SkengRay:
c'mon bro. Religion has Enslaved your mental capabilities see the analogy you're bringing up. God is Above Religion. Religion is Made by Man God Never spoke Directly to any man Your roof analogy doesn’t work because a roof is a physical part of a house, built from the same materials. God and religion are not the same category. Religion is a human system, God is the source it tries to describe. Saying God belongs to religion is like saying an author belongs to the book he wrote?. You you have any amount of reasoning you'd know that doesn't make any sense

Just because you cannot make any reasonable argument see how you are talking jumbled like those ma pip who walk naked with bushy unkempt hair in the market.

Your first response is insalt first, then you say "God is Above Religion. Religion is Made by Man God Never spoke Directly to any man" all in one breath.

I wanted to tell you before that I have seen that you are not stable men.thal ... Li

No coherent person speaks like this and I don't deal with men ....

Thal

Payshents!

Dtruthspeaker:
Just because you cannot make any reasonable argument see how you are talking jumbled like those ma pip who walk naked with bushy unkempt hair in the market.

Your first response is insalt first, then you say "God is Above Religion. Religion is Made by Man God Never spoke Directly to any man" all in one breath.

I wanted to tell you before that I have seen that you are not stable men.thal ... Li

No coherent person speaks like this and I don't deal with men ....

Thal

Payshents!

oooou It seems you've recovered from the pains after you've been avoiding me all Day . What I Said is facts . Stop The Tears and The Emotions. I Shook the Fragile belief that you never Questioned so you resulted to using Insults which shows you've lost this Argument .

Dtruthspeaker:
To all the homies and sharp boys who think themselves very smart for marrying a virgin after all their disvirgining kerewas out there, do you see what has happened to your brother who had even done this earlier?

https://www.nairaland.com/8563521/mature-people-only-need-advice/1#137516008

See how the plan did not work and check his threads, he has been complaining and lamenting since, but now it is about to shëlē!

Wise men fear God!

Statistically proven, a virgin wife has 90% proven record to remain in marriage while non virgins crash their marriages at a hat's drip.

Stop your petty games. And done be a captian-advocate for the hos

lezz:
Statistically proven, a virgin wife has 90% proven record to remain in marriage while non virgins crash their marriages at a hat's drip.

Stop your petty games. And done be a captian-advocate for the hos

Why are you people always going out of context and thinking fallaciously?

So, of it is not left, it must be right?

The only thing I said there is that if you think yourselves smart by marrying a virgin note what has happened to your brother who had even done it already and that is all.

In all these people have already married the hohs and look at the guys who got slapped, they were ready to marry their hohs. So you guys already do as you please, I'm just relaxing watching your results.

Dtruthspeaker:
Why are you people always going out of context and thinking fallaciously?

So, of it is not left, it must be right?

The only thing I said there is that if you think yourselves smart by marrying a virgin note what has happened to your brother who had even done it already and that is all.

In all these people have already married the hohs and look at the guys who got slapped, they were ready to marry their hohs. So you guys already do as you please, I'm just relaxing watching your results.

something must have unarguably gone wrong with how you process information or you're just playing intellectual dishonesty.

You're giving example of a virgin wife gone bad and we are telling you that irrespective of what you saw or heard, virgin wives have a higher rate of staying in marriages worldwide than non-virgins.

If you know any case that contradicts this global statistics, then it is the exception.

Saying I am talking off context is organically foolish

lezz:
something must have unarguably gone wrong with how you process information or you're just playing intellectual dishonesty.

You're giving example of a virgin wife gone bad and we are telling you that irrespective of what you saw or heard, virgin wives have a higher rate of staying in marriages worldwide than non-virgins.

If you know any case that contradicts this global statistics, then it is the exception.

Saying I am talking off context is organically foolish

Kai! Your abuse sweet oo. You go better school.

Go see your post, your primary point and accusation is that you thought I was advocating for you guys to continuing marrying hohs saying "Stop your petty games. And done be a captian-advocate for the hos"

Whereas, the focal point (context) of my comment is point out the fact that you guys are bound to run into issues marrying your virgin.

I personally know that this plays out in every marriage like this but the couples endure it till sheet goes down. But this is the second guy I know on this platform who has come out to talk about this issue.

And I hope you are observing the ominous silence coming from the sex who it primarily concerns, that silence is telling you everything.

But, anyway I believe I have addressed your objection, so let me kpom here!