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tctrills:
From being a false teacher, you are now pretending to be an expert on evil people. No wahala, continue

lilsmart:
You leave everyone from Africa follow someone from Nazareth. Lol. What this story book has caused.

MaxInDHouse:
Present one praise worthy thing anyone from any other nation has achieved in the gathering of his or her followers!🙂

lilsmart:
Me

tctrills:
I have seen many bad guys come together to work their evil. What do you think APC did in 2023? I know you guys don't follow politics so let me tell you. It was the coming together of evil men to further destroy 9ja.
In 1939, the Nazi, fascists and imperial Japan worked together to take over the world.
So yes my guy devils work together. Do think like a baby

lilsmart:
You leave everyone from Africa follow someone from Nazareth. Lol. What this story book has caused.

blueAgent:
Leave that delusional guy.
Example of successful evil groups and gangs are all around him and he is denying it.

Sirmwill:
I am not a Jehovah Witness person
I am not even a church person
But
I can tell you ,you are saying a lot of truth but
Most people would not accept
So
Don't bother yourself much with arguments 😇

DoctorAyukebot:
You know your scriptures

Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

IykeSent:
This is a deep and insightful explanation of Hebrews 1:5, showing how Jesus is uniquely God's Son not just another angel. I especially liked the connection to the temple and the idea of spiritual sonship through being “born again.God bless you for this

Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

Tayorshd87:
Awesome input 💯
That's true logically

Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same Christian doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment

Kingsempires:
wow I love this your statement 🙂🙏

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.
But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check

CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point

naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.

Treborblue:
Wow insightful thanks very much

shinaola21:
Perfectly said bro 💯

JimRohn:
Do you really consider DeepSight to be on the same intellectual level as MaxInDHouse or some of the other individuals I engage with here?

Because frankly, MaxInDHouse is among the most intelligent contributors on Nairaland. In contrast, DeepSight does not even qualify for consideration when I rate people based on intellect.

That is precisely why I refuse to bring myself down to his level — instead, I choose to engage with those whose reasoning and arguments are worth my time.

Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down

RavinWolf:
I never saw a better response. Thank you. 100% correct!

MaxInDHouse:
Good!
So can you name one achievement really praiseworthy your headship has produced in the midst of your followers?

MaxInDHouse:
Sebi you left everyone else on Nairaland and specifically mentioned my name as the person you want to engage.

Oya nah let's hear what you have to say about real faith that's achieving God's will in the midst of imperfect humans.

Funny Churchian!

lilsmart:
I be Aeronautical Engineer, specializing in Aircraft Manufacturing and Design, from shenyang aerospace university. My professional experience includes roles with leading industry players like LIAONING General Aviation and the shenyang Machine Tool Group, where I gained hands-on expertise in the high precision machinery essential for aerospace component fabrication.
As a Nigerian in is late 20s I can proudly tell you that my Impactful Research: CFRP and Drilling (Carbon Fiber Reinforced Polymer) is at the heart of modern aviation. CFRP is the strong, lightweight composite material used in modern aircraft like the Boeing 787 and Airbus A350.
So you see say my followers includes YOU
This should sever as a motivation to you.
Now tell me, what is your Discipline and what impact do you have to the Society or the people around you?

blueAgent:
I quoted you on my Opost, because I promised you in another post were we argued about this issue that I was going to respond with more facts.
For your claim, keep deceiving yourself.

MaxInDHouse:
You don't believe Jesus that's what took you unaware.
Jesus is filled with wisdom so if you draw close to his anointed brothers you too will become wise.
He said a lot about Satan and demons so if you learn from Jesus you will know that there can never ever be agreement among rebellious people because each of them will be seeking his own glory unlike Jesus, his faithful Apostles and his modern day disciples known globally today as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES we are all humble people that's why we can work out what God promised since His holy spirit can only work in the gathering of humble ones!🙂

tctrills:
Lol, you actually don't even know who Jesus is and you are claiming that iI don't believe in Jesus. You believe Adam is the only begotten son of God and you are questioning my believe in Christ? Funny guy

MaxInDHouse:
Knowing Jesus is not about claims but fine works {Matthew 7:21-27} followers of Jesus are organized to work together as fellow workers under a perfect leader.
So if truly you know Jesus Christ try and mention the name of your group so we can all see what Jesus is doing among you people! John 17:22🙂

tctrills:
No
Knowing Jesus is not about lies and made up stories with no scriptural backing. It is not about being a slave to some white men opinion. It is not about a group set out to confuse and deceive.

blueAgent:
There are religious groups like Jehovah's Witnesses, Islam and many others who claim that Jesus is not the Literal son of God, but an Angel who GOD bestowed sonship on,

They claim that Angels are sons of God, hence that aslo make Jesus an Angel or prophet of GOD.
Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

With this few points i can prove that Jesus is the literal Son of GOD and not an Angel.




1.No Angel shared God's glory, that would be Blasphemous for one to say that. But Jesus shares the glory of his father, GOD.
Isaiah 42:8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
John 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.


2.No Angel had the form of GOD note form of God means his nature, Immortality, Holy,Divine, Uncreated but Jesus had all this.

Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 2:6 Who, being in the FORM of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:



3. No Angel was called GOD.
But Jesus was called GOD by his Father.
Psalms 45:6 Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. 45:7 Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.


John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God. 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.


4.Demons,Kings (like Nebuchadnezzar)and Great people all knew Jesus as the Literal Son of GOD and not as an Angel.
Matthew 8:29 And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou SON of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?

Daniel 3:24 Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonied, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellors, Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered and said unto the king, True, O king. 3:25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the SON of God.


Matthew 16:13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 16:15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the SON of the living God. 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.


5.No Angel had divinity or God's nature in him.
But Jesus had the fullness of God's divinity dwelling in him.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.



6.No Angel received Worship, Only GOD could receive worship.
Jesus been the Son of GOD having the essence and nature of GOD could receive worship, but no Angel could.

Revelation 22:8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. Revelation 22:9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.


Matthew 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. Matthew 28:9 And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.

Matthew 2:11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.


7.No Angel had Immortality or life inherently.
Only GOD and his SON Jesus.
of course been his literal SON, JESUS inherited Immortality.

1 Timothy 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;


8.No Angel had power to forgive sins.
But Jesus had that power, because he is GOD’S literal SON and hence GOD by nature.

Matthew 9:2 And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee. Mark 2:5 When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee. Mark 2:7 Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?



9.No Angel had ability to create things or give life, but Jesus could because he been the SON of GOD is also GOD in nature.

Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:




10.No Angel came out or forth from GOD they were all created, they all had beginning and under.
But Jesus has neither beginning or end, been the creator himself.


John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I PROCEEDED FORTH and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
John 16:28 I CAME FORTH from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.

Micah 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of OLD, from EVERLASTING.


11.No Angel bears the name of GOD in them, but Jesus bears GOD'S name in him by inheritance.

Exodus 23:21 Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.

Hebrews 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by INHERITANCE obtained a more excellent name than they.


12.No Angel is the express image or exact copy of GOD, that would mean there are 2 GOD'S.
But Jesus been the Literal son of GOD has the express image and resemblance of his father GOD.

Hebrews 1:3 Who being the BRIGHTNESS of his GLORY, and the EXPRESS IMAGE of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;


13.No Angel was begotten, they were all created by Jesus.
Only Jesus was BEGOTTEN by his father GOD.
Psalm 2:7-8 (ESV) … The Lord said to Me, “You are my Son; today I have BEGOTTEN you. 8 Ask of me, and I will make the nations your heritage, and the ends of the earth your possession.



14.No Angel was ever called GOD'S SON, In all of eternity it has never happened.

Hebrews 1:5-6 For unto which of the angels said he at (AT ANY TIME), Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? 6 And again, when he bringeth in the FIRSTBEGOTTEN into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
This confirms that JESUS was never at anytime(in the past or present)an Angel or anything Less than the literal SON of GOD.

Hebrews 1:8-9 … a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore GOD, even thy GOD, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.


15.Angels had beginning, because they are created beings ,Jesus had no beginning but is “from everlasting” (Micah 5:2). The other spirit messengers were created (Hebrews 1:7). And they were created by Him! (Colossians 1:15-17). He is their Creator—their Lord and God along with the Father.


In Conclusion


Yes Angels are the sons of GOD just like Humans are also Sons of GOD.

Using there (JW)fake analogy does it mean that Man is also an Angel ? since Man is also a son of GOD.

Besides the Word Angel means messengers.
Yes messengers are GOD’S servants and Jesus is also GOD’S servant, it does not negate the fact that he is the literal Son of GOD.

The paul you want to quote in Galatians 4:14 to support your fake anology never claimed that Jesus is an Angel.

Because that same Paul warned the early church against people like you who would deny the divinity of Jesus, as the literal son of God.
And Paul called such people the antichrist.

The Implications of such false teachings is that, it brings into questioning the genuineness of God's love for man.

JW are claiming that GOD’S love for man is not real, because he gave us something that did not cost him anything, he gave us an Angel as his son instead of his literal son.


John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only BEGOTTEN SON, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.


Thanks.

MaxInDHouse's

Truthseeker10:
So are you saying that Jesus Is the Almighty God?

MaxInDHouse:
Exactly what unbelieving Jews said about Jesus and his disciples in the first century yet the fine works speaks in volumes.
You will continue to call it "lies" just as first century Jews said about Jesus and his disciples but that won't stop us from doing God's will!

Truthseeker10:
So are you saying that Jesus Is the Almighty God?

MaxInDHouse:
Out of the mouth of many witnesses truth will be confirmed!

Those people you see saying so much about me are from different schools of thought.

So you have nothing to say other than humbly learn from me and my brothers in Christ!🙂

tctrills:
Funny boy, at least Jesus Christ and His disciples did not spread falsehoods so that's the big difference.
Jesus Christ and His disciples did not teach that Adam was the only begotten son of God

blueAgent:
Keep Fooling yourself
Some Bible verses to ponder on.
James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
John 17:14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
Beware of when men sing of your praises.

MaxInDHouse:
Sing your praises because you are doing what?🙂

blueAgent:
Ask yourself and your praise singers.
Jesus has already told you, people who teach false doctrine have a lot of praise singers because they are in conformity to the world and not the word of God.

MaxInDHouse:
So all those people from different school of thought are the world to you shey?

Funny Churchian!🙂

blueAgent:
Keep fooling yourself

blueAgent:
No, he is the literal Son of the Almighty God.