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AngelahFlo:

The man Adam was created in the image and likeness of God .

The above is unfortunately not true, and makes it impossible for me to read further.

To start with, the image of God was created on the sixth day, while Adam was created after God had rested on the seventh day, so on the eight day at best.

The image of God was not created from mud, while Adam was created from mud.

The image of God was told to rule and subdue and multiply and be blessed, while the mud was told to tend a tiny garden.

The image of God was told to eat all fruits while Adam was told not to eat the fruit of knowledge.

I therefore put it to you that the naked ignorant enslaved Adam was not the Image of God, and believing he is shows one is not using one's own eyes to read, nor one's own mind to seek understanding, and show one who just believes what one has been told in order to enslave you.

Ref:
https://www.nairaland.com/6795272/reeves-pass

https://www.nairaland.com/7351620/story-adam-eve-makes-sense

budaatum:
The above is unfortunately not true, and makes it impossible for me to read further.

To start with, the image of God was created on the sixth day, while Adam was created after God had rested on the seventh day, so on the eight day at best.

Bad atum stop drinking.. On the sixth day God created male and female. Genesis 2 then explains how the male and female were created exactly how Genesis 1 verse 1 first said God created the heaven and the earth. Then verses 2 to 10 explains how He created the heaven and the earth. It's as simple as that

Dtruthspeaker:
Bad atum stop drinking.. On the sixth day God created male and female. Genesis 2 then explains how the male and female were created exactly how Genesis 1 verse 1 first said God created the heaven and the earth. Then verses 2 to 10 explains how He created the heaven and the earth. It's as simple as that.

And God then reduced the pay of Adam from what he paid the image, while reducing Adam's duty too from that of the image?

I think you should start drinking. Though learning to read and understand might serve you much better.

budaatum:
The above is unfortunately not true, and makes it impossible for me to read further.

To start with, the image of God was created on the sixth day, while Adam was created after God had rested on the seventh day, so on the eight day at best.

The image of God was not created from mud, while Adam was created from mud.

The image of God was told to rule and subdue and multiply and be blessed, while the mud was told to tend a tiny garden.

The image of God was told to eat all fruits while Adam was told not to eat the fruit of knowledge.

I therefore put it to you that the naked ignorant enslaved Adam was not the Image of God, and believing he is shows one is not using one's own eyes to read, nor one's own mind to seek understanding, and show one who just believes what one has been told in order to enslave you.

Ref:
https://www.nairaland.com/6795272/reeves-pass

https://www.nairaland.com/7351620/story-adam-eve-makes-sense

Your argument is a little skewed. The Image of God which was created on the sixth day is Man and given authority to rule, dominate and subdue the earth. The Image of God needed an earth suit in order to fulfill the purpose of his creation which was what God formed in Genesis 2 probably after the 8th day as you said. He formed the suit from the dust(mud) of the earth and breathed into this suit the Man He had created in Genesis 1:26 downwards and Image of God became a living soul with the name Adam. So Adam was in the image and likeness of God. If it's still hard for you to grasp; Look it up again

budaatum:
And God then reduced the pay of Adam from what he paid the image..

Adam paid for image? It is clear you have been cusde wit evalastinm@a...ñes

Dtruthspeaker:
Bad atum stop drinking.. On the sixth day God created male and female. Genesis 2 then explains how the male and female were created exactly how Genesis 1 verse 1 first said God created the heaven and the earth. Then verses 2 to 10 explains how He created the heaven and the earth. It's as simple as that

Thank Sir for helping me make him see. The truth cannot be argued. It's so absolute that to try and argue it is to make a mockery of one's self.

Dtruthspeaker:
Adam paid for image? It is clear you have been cusde wit evalastinm@a...ñes

You don't need to use language on him. It's not needed. It's strange that some people can read an account of something that's so profoundly explained in plain English and still see what their mind points them towards. It's so sad.

AngelahFlo:
Thank Sir for helping me make him see. The truth cannot be argued. It's so absolute that to try and argue it is to make a mockery of one's self.

He's Saytan indwelt. The only thing he came to do here is to do as saytan did to Eve. The punishment of the serpent is what afflicts him

Dtruthspeaker:
He's Saytan indwelt. The only thing he came to do here is to do as saytan did to Eve. The punishment of the serpent is what afflicts him

You're right and it's sad because to his kind has been given a reprobate mind given to delusions which is why even with our clear answer to his post he may still not see the truth. It's so sad.

AngelahFlo:
You don't need to use language on him. It's not needed. It's strange that some people can read an account of something that's so profoundly explained in plain English and still see what their mind points them towards. It's so sad.

Remember power of the tongue. The ivu has to be cusde so that evu plagues the ivu. Why do you think that the world is stopping our mouths?

It's because when we Speak in righteousness, God moves

So don't protect the evu, cuss it and expose it

AngelahFlo:
You're right and it's sad because to his kind has been given a reprobate mind given to delusions which is why even with our clear answer to his post he may still not see the truth. It's so sad.

A person cussed with a reprobate mind has to do only evu and lying perversions. Truth cannot be with him again

Dtruthspeaker:
A person cussed with a reprobate mind has to do only evu and lying perversions. Truth cannot be with him again

That is the point I'm raising. I'm not being judgemental but it's the truth. As he is no amount of argument can make him see. He's been given over to a deluded mind and can only believe the lies of the devil

Dtruthspeaker:
Remember power of the tongue. The ivu has to be cusde so that evu plagues the ivu. Why do you think that the world is stopping our mouths?

It's because when we Speak in righteousness, God moves

So don't protect the evu, cuss it and expose it

I'd rather rebuke the Evil so it doesn't keep spreading tall tales around. Thanks for drawing my attention to this. I doubt if he'll respond to our replies. If he does then he's really far gone.

AngelahFlo:
I'd rather rebuke the Evil so it doesn't keep spreading tall tales around. Thanks for drawing my attention to this. I doubt if he'll respond to our replies. If he does then he's really far gone.

He will respond. That is how far gone he is.

budaatum:
The above is unfortunately not true, and makes it impossible for me to read further.

To start with, the image of God was created on the sixth day, while Adam was created after God had rested on the seventh day, so on the eight day at best.

The image of God was not created from mud, while Adam was created from mud.

The image of God was told to rule and subdue and multiply and be blessed, while the mud was told to tend a tiny garden.

The image of God was told to eat all fruits while Adam was told not to eat the fruit of knowledge.

I therefore put it to you that the naked ignorant enslaved Adam was not the Image of God, and believing he is shows one is not using one's own eyes to read, nor one's own mind to seek understanding, and show one who just believes what one has been told in order to enslave you.

Ref:
https://www.nairaland.com/6795272/reeves-pass

https://www.nairaland.com/7351620/story-adam-eve-makes-sense

Do you mean that the image of God has a mouth to eat physical food?

AngelahFlo:
Your argument is a little skewed. The Image of God which was created on the sixth day is Man and given authority to rule, dominate and subdue the earth. The Image of God needed an earth suit in order to fulfill the purpose of his creation which was what God formed in Genesis 2 probably after the 8th day as you said. He formed the suit from the dust(mud) of the earth and breathed into this suit the Man He had created in Genesis 1:26 downwards and Image of God became a living soul with the name Adam. So Adam was in the image and likeness of God. If it's still hard for you to grasp; Look it up again

Who exactly was Adam, the dust or the breath of life?

Dtruthspeaker:
Adam paid for image? It is clear you have been cusde wit evalastinm@a...ñes

You obviously have comprehension issues, so I'm going to try to not bother responding to you much apart from God 'paid' both the Image and Adam, different wages for different jobs, since it is clearly written that the Image was not a naked ignorant gardener.

Truthseeker10:
Do you mean that the image of God has a mouth to eat physical food?

Does God have a physical mouth?

We could argue whether "every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it", literally means physical food that requires a physical mouth to eat it.

The fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil should most definitely not be presumed to be physical food, I'd argue.

budaatum:
Does God have a physical mouth?

We could argue whether "every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it", literally means physical food that requires a physical mouth to eat it.

The fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil should most definitely not be presumed to be physical food, I'd argue.

Lol...so some of the seed bearing plant on the face was the whole earth were spiritual plants that required a spiritual mouth to eat it?

AngelahFlo:
Your argument is a little skewed. The Image of God which was created on the sixth day is Man and given authority to rule, dominate and subdue the earth. The Image of God needed an earth suit in order to fulfill the purpose of his creation which was what God formed in Genesis 2 probably after the 8th day as you said. He formed the suit from the dust(mud) of the earth and breathed into this suit the Man He had created in Genesis 1:26 downwards and Image of God became a living soul with the name Adam. So Adam was in the image and likeness of God. If it's still hard for you to grasp; Look it up again

Of course I'm going to respond to you and ignore all your insults.

Your above, the bold, precisely, is thoughtful for making it seem like God was in the Image of Adam, whom we presume had a body like yours. Yet, I bet you wouldn't agree that God has a body like yours, or would you? Was God made of mud too?

But of course you are just trying to weave your belief into the text which clearly states, according to KJV, that "God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them". And they were given the duty of rule, subdue and multiply, while Adam of mud was placed naked in a garden to tend it, and was paid less than the Image who's job was a lot more.

The thing is, those who brought you the KJV also believed for about 1500 years that Adam was the same as the Image of God. It's how they too were colonised by those who took the Bible to them. And so they don't see the truth themselves, the Bible was kept in Latin. But they eventually ate fruits of knowledge and translated it into their own native language, and their eyes opened so they could see that God had created two different forms of humans, one to rule, and the other to be slaves.

Pity is, instead of now spreading their own new understanding, they sold you their old abandoned one, and enslaved you with it, and here you are.

Thankfully, you can't live forever fearing knowledge will kill you.

Truthseeker10:
Lol...so some of the seed bearing plant on the face was the whole earth were spiritual plants that required a spiritual mouth to eat it?

Surely you've sought more truth than to think that the Image of God and Adam and Eve were real, and not just representations of an understanding of a time and place?

budaatum:
Surely you've sought more truth than to think that the Image of God and Adam and Eve were real, and not just representations of an understanding of a time and place?

🤣🤣...na wa....so Adam and eve and image of God were not real? Please explain

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣...na wa....so Adam and eve and image of God were not real? Please explain

Do you know what mythology is?

Who was there to write this story about Adam and Eve and the Image of God for you to read?

budaatum:
Do you know what mythology is?

Who was there to write this story about Adam and Eve and the Image of God for you to read?

So if the whole story was a myth, why stressing to explain and interpret it to suit yourself?

2) explain how the universe and life began?

Truthseeker10:
2) explain how the universe and life began?

I should explain how a universe that is dated like 13 billion years old and life that is estimated to have began over 4 billion years?

Sorry, but that's like asking me to insult your intelligence, which I have no reason to do.

Truthseeker10:
So if the whole story was a myth, why stressing to explain and interpret it to suit yourself?

Because it programs many. And because I have a mind that I use.

Nigerians, my country people, do not understand that believing they are Adam of mud is self slavery.

An extreme form is Almanjerism, where people are kept ignorant so they can be enslaved and exploited.

Eating fruits of knowledge is what will emancipate us.

budaatum:
I should explain how a universe that is dated like 13 billion years old and life that is estimated to have began over 4 billion years?

Sorry, but that's like asking me to insult your intelligence, which I have no reason to do.


Because it programs many. And because I have a mind that I use.

Nigerians, my country people, do not understand that believing they are Adam of mud is self slavery.

An extreme form is Almanjerism, where people are kept ignorant so they can be enslaved and exploited.

Eating fruits of knowledge is what will emancipate us.

So you don't know how the universe and life began?

Do you agree that there is a God?

Truthseeker10:
Do you agree that there is a God?

I agree that there are books, written by human beings, that describe gods that have all been created by human beings, in their own human images, all around the world, from the beginning of time.

Ref: https://www.nairaland.com/7707569/how-gods-made

Truthseeker10:
So you don't know how the universe and life began?

No, I don't know, and nor does anyone know how the universe and life began, though I am partial, by virtue of my Yoruba heritage, to the myth that describes how the god Obatala created dry land from a primeval ocean, which he accomplished by scattering sand from a snail shell, guided by a hen, and then sculpted the first humans from clay. And being the budaatum, I'm also partial to Atum being said to have emerged from the primeval waters of chaos and created the first gods of Air and Moisture from his own body, and from these first gods, the rest of the Ennead and the rest of the universe were created.

I don't believe them nor accept either as how the universe began though, because that would be ígnorant and foølish.

budaatum:
I agree that there are books, written by human beings, that describe gods that have all been created by human beings, in their own human images, all around the world, from the beginning of time.

Ref: https://www.nairaland.com/7707569/how-gods-made



No, I don't know, and nor does anyone know how the universe and life began, though I am partial, by virtue of my Yoruba heritage, to the myth that describes how the god Obatala created dry land from a primeval ocean, which he accomplished by scattering sand from a snail shell, guided by a hen, and then sculpted the first humans from clay. And being the budaatum, I'm also partial to Atum being said to have emerged from the primeval waters of chaos and created the first gods of Air and Moisture from his own body, and from these first gods, the rest of the Ennead and the rest of the universe were created.

I don't believe them nor accept either as how the universe began though, because that would be ígnorant and foølish.

Do you personally agree that God exists?

Truthseeker10:
Do you personally agree that God exists?

No! I do not personally agree that gods exist.

That said, Dangote said, "let there be locally refined petrol", and there is locally refined petrol, and for that I call him a god.

All gods are figments of human imaginations, and I too am human, with an imagination.

budaatum:
No! I do not personally agree that gods exist.

That said, Dangote said, "let there be locally refined petrol", and there is locally refined petrol, and for that I call him a god.

All gods are figments of human imaginations, and I too am human, with an imagination.

So do you agree that a God does not exist? If yes, is there a proof that a God does not exist?