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Expanse2020:
why don't you swallow a nail of the smallest size of half inch and live stream the Yahweh miracle for us .. too
Is as simple as that...
We all know miracle no de tired Jesus... So let him do that one too naw 😂😂
Antslam you are also welcome to do it ..

Like dis kind of miracle

53 vs 6 yr old

AntiisIam:
Like dis kind of miracle

53 vs 6 yr old

Saint Joseph is far older than that when he married a baby Saint marry....🤣🤣🤣

Isaac is older when he married a baby rebekah


King Henry 3 of England married a kid baby why we don't hear noise about those people

Expanse2020:
Saint Joseph is far older than that when he married a baby Saint marry....🤣🤣🤣

Isaac is older when he married a baby rebekah


King Henry 3 of England married a kid baby why we don't hear noise about those people

Tell us Joseph's age ati Mary

Kowa compare with 53 vs 6

AntiisIam:
Tell us Joseph's age ati Mary

Kowa compare with 53 vs 6

Joseph is 90+ marry a baby of 12 to 13
Why crying
What of the king Henry too why are you wailing on just one
What Isaac and Rebecca

Expanse2020:
Joseph is 90+ marry a baby of 12 to 13
Why crying
What of the king Henry too why are you wailing on just one
What Isaac and Rebecca

Beni ti e ri, professor of taqqiya

Oya show us where you read Joseph 90 and Mary 12 from the Bible

AntiisIam:
Beni ti e ri, professor of taqqiya

Oya show us where you read Joseph 90 and Mary 12 from the Bible

Check Wikipedia on him on what Christians schorlas said...
Pick a book sir

LordReed:
Did you even look at the xrays? The nail rotated at least twice. In the 1st set of xrays the head is down, in the 2nd set it is up then in the 3rd set it is down again. And the 1st was taken 8 hrs after he swallowed it so we don't know if it rotated in that period.

Your incredulity is getting the better of you such that you cannot even see what's right in front of you.

FxMasterz obviously did not have the time to look at the evidence so he just inferred what he wanted and ran with it.

FxMasterz, I want you to know that the more I spend time researching your past conversations the more angry I become at myself for regarding anything you've said about buda. And I'm posting this here because I think, or let me say, I'm implying so you can infer, that your laziness is actually triple evil.

Expanse2020:
The bible can not proof his authors nevertheless the 50% accuracy of what in there.

The Bible God never said supernatural acts will serve as proof of His Might.
WHY?
Because rebellious angels everywhere can also perform wonders {Exodus 8:6-7} unless God intervene {Exodus 8:17-19} so God never promised His friends to rely on supernatural acts as evidence of His Might.
So what did God say will serve as evidence of His existence and might?
God said:
"You are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “Yes, my servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and have faith in me And understand that I am the same One. Before me no God was formed, And after me there has been none." Isaiah 43:10

Note the highlighted in green 💚 God said it's the way His worshipers are well organized in doing His will that will serve as proof of His existence and might.

Note how Jesus emphasized on evidence of his being the Christ:

"You will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth.” Act 1:8

So it's not supernatural acts that will serve as evidence that God or Jesus is working among true worshipers rather it is their unitedly doing God's will! Matthew 7:21-23😟

MaxInDHouse:
The Bible God never said supernatural acts will serve as proof of His Might.
WHY?

So who claimed supernatural act serve as act a proof....

All am saying the book you believe in lack integrity.....
The most funny part is that .
The white had their own bible
They have black bible for the black
The woman had their own bible
Plus more than 150+ existing bible which lack integrity with the original manuscript.....

Because rebellious angels everywhere can also perform wonders {Exodus 8:6-7} unless God intervene {Exodus 8:17-19} so God never promised His friends to rely on supernatural acts as evidence of His Might.
So what did God say will serve as evidence of His existence and might?
God said:
"You are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “Yes, my servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and have faith in me And understand that I am the same One. Before me no God was formed, And after me there has been none." Isaiah 43:10

Note the highlighted in green 💚 God said it's the way His worshipers are well organized in doing His will that will serve as proof of His existence and might.

Note how Jesus emphasized on evidence of his being the Christ:

"You will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth.” Act 1:8

So it's not supernatural acts that will serve as evidence that God or Jesus is working among true worshipers rather it is their unitedly doing God's will! Matthew 7:21-23😟

God said:
[b]"You are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “Yes, my servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and have faith in me And understand that I am the same One. Before me no God was formed, And after me there has been none." Isaiah 43:10
This is actually in the bible and some fools refered to JESUS as God

Expanse2020:
All am saying the book you believe in lack integrity.....

Do you think it's possible for imperfect humans to worship together peacefully {Zephaniah 3:9} without having issues that can cause disagreement leading to hatred and war with the use of a book that lack integrity?
Well honestly speaking only God can use a book to achieve what is recorded in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 repeated at Micah 4:1-3.
So any book that fails to achieve that is lacking integrity!🙂

Expanse2020:
This is actually in the bible and some fools refered to JESUS as God

If Allah claimed to be the one who leads some people to the right path and some he misled to the wrong path.
Who is to blamed for the confusion?
Those led by Allah or Allah himself?🤔

Expanse2020:
Check Wikipedia on him on what Christians schorlas said...
Pick a book sir

Anago, shey wikipedia and Bible the same nii

AntiisIam:
Anago, shey wikipedia and Bible the same nii

no be the people wey develop bible develop wiki....
No be white ape who brought Christianity to Africa taught you all that

MaxInDHouse:
If Allah claimed to be the one who leads some people to the right path and some he misled to the wrong path.
Who is to blamed for the confusion?
Those led by Allah or Allah himself?🤔

Ehen
So Pharaoh that Yahweh sent Moses to, to go preach to and meet him and God had worn Moses that pharaoh will not listen but yet he sent Moses to him..
Are we to blame Yahweh or pharaoh

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MaxInDHouse:
Do you think it's possible for imperfect humans to worship together peacefully {Zephaniah 3:9} without having issues that can cause disagreement leading to hatred and war with the use of a book that lack integrity?
Well honestly speaking only God can use a book to achieve what is recorded in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 repeated at Micah 4:1-3.
So any book that fails to achieve that is lacking integrity!🙂

so you already accepted that bible lack integrity... Because it written by unknown authors

FxMasterz:
I want to know the god that can work work wonders like Jesus. Muslims and Atheists always think every testimony of miracles Christians share are all lies. But, here's something that will shock you.

A woman created a tik tok video showing x-ray evidence of the nail her one year old swallowed. She shared how God delayed the surgery. She also shared how God removed the nail from a dangerous position in the child's tummy, and how God turned the nail 360° in a harmless position that would allow it pass out of the child through her anus without any surgical operation. The x-rays of the entire incident are on the tik tok video. The nail was excreted by the child and it was also photographed. All these happened because the woman prayed. I have shared my personal testimonies of Jesus's wonders here which many didn't believe.

Antichristian, please, tell me which god can do wonders like Jesus.

Why don't you run to Jesus today? He is waiting to receive you into His warm embrace. You will experience the love of God like never before. Jesus loves you unconditionally and He proved it by dying for your sins.

Watch the tik tok video here: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSH7dmfLFbkmq-rzdwE/

Lordreed, jaephoenix, hardmirror, jessicarabbit

Sorry I'm seeing this late. More than a month.
Right. So the human body is a crazy contraption. In medicine nothing is impossible. And these 'impossibilities' are not limited to folks of any particular religion. Christianity, muslims,atheists etc experience them. These include spontaneous cancer remissions and of course, in this case,spontaneous egestion of sharp objects like nails. So I can show you many examples of folks that swallowed nails and passed them out stresslessly without any prayers or interventions.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2213576619302039
https://auctoresonline.org/article/spontaneous-passage-of-a-long-nail-through-the-gastrointestinal-tract-of-a-2-year-old-child-a-case-report

I'll stop at these 2 examples.
Peristalsis can move objects both forward and backwards at the same time and when they happen spontaneously the object turns around

So no,this is not a miracle though it's not common.
FzMasterz I have asked you to perform miracle in my hospital before but you have been dodging it like Neo in Matrix. Its more than one and half years now,still waiting...

Gabrielshow24:
of course, simple biology affirms they do move. I don't know the full picture of the incident but what I do know is that peristalsis doesn't move objects 360°.Probably, why the lady connected it to her prayer... Causa et effectus 🤔.

If you have a simple use of Occam's razor kindly share it.

Actual it did a 180 not 360

Gabrielshow24:
One thing you must learn is that Jesus won't infringe on your will. If you let him in, good for you else you are left to do ’things’ on your own, a syntactic periphrastic sugar for ’OYO'🤨.

Yhwh does not condone freewill. It's a myth promoted by Christians when Yhwh clearly trample on freewill of several people in the bible like the Pharaoh, Job,Nehemiah etc

Expanse2020:
Ehen
So Pharaoh that Yahweh sent Moses to, to go preach to and meet him and God had worn Moses that pharaoh will not listen but yet he sent Moses to him..
Are we to blame Yahweh or pharaoh

Oh that is easy nah.
Pharaoh is to blame because according to Egyptian traditions each Pharaoh is a God on his own so a God who has his own territory with the world's largest army and latest technological weapons of his time can't easily succumb to the threat of another God who is invisible.
But after seeing all the supernatural acts performed by Moses who was made a God by the Almighty to challenge the King of Egypt any humble person will realize that the God who sent Moses is far much greater than all the Gods of Egypt put together including Pharaoh himself.
So Pharaoh is to blame.
Now answer the question.
Between your Allah who claimed he is the one misleading people and those he misled who is to blame?

Expanse2020:
I so you already accepted that bible lack integrity... Because it written by unknown authors

You are the one who defined integrity by your own opinion but going by reasonableness there is no way a book that lacks integrity could help imperfect humans to achieve what the Bible God promised at Isaiah 2:3-4; Micah 4:1-3

Therefore if all that your Quran could be able to achieve is making all of you bow towards a black stone in Mecca while you people easily get carried away with politics and racism to the extent of hating, fighting and killing your fellow worshipers of the same Allah then your Quran doesn't only lacks integrity but is worthless!😟

Because it's the words of your God that should be used to settle matters amicably among you people if truly you believe in that Allah and have deep respect for his words as recorded in that book! 2Timothy 3:16🤔

MaxInDHouse:
You are the one who defined integrity by your own opinion but going by reasonableness there is no way a book that lacks integrity could help imperfect humans to achieve what the Bible God promised at Isaiah 2:3-4; Micah 4:1-3

Therefore if all that your Quran could be able to achieve is making all of you bow towards a black stone in Mecca while you people easily get carried away with politics and racism to the extent of hating, fighting and killing your fellow worshipers of the same Allah then your Quran doesn't only lacks integrity but is worthless!😟

Because it's the words of your God that should be used to settle matters amicably among you people if truly you believe in that Allah and have deep respect for his words as recorded in that book! 2Timothy 3:16🤔

Not my opinion...

According to Christians schorlas they are several authors of bible [b] and they are unknown...
So it's not my opinion

FxMasterz:
You mean you are expecting me to say what you want me to say? Is that what you mean by saying your question was not answered?

No now, I have answered your questions. I gave you a comprehensive answer.

Look at that nail very closely. It's sharp end faces downwards. Anyone who says there's a biological move that could make that sharp end face upwards is obviously a liar. Whatever turned that sharp end upwards is a miracle. You can only live in denial.

Now, if you think that could happen without prayers, kudos to you. The doctors already wanted to operate the child. They never expected the nail to turn. Neither did the do anything to activate any biological process. As far as the doctors were concerned, the ONLY solution was surgery.

Now, the mother prayed and the entire situation changed. Satan is still whispering into your head that the situation that didn't change before prayer has now changed naturally. How long will you keep denying the truth of God while celebrating the lies Satan tells you daily?

You know nothing about medicine. Peristalsis can turn it around but we don't take chances cos even though it can turn,it may also perforate the bowels. So we may as well intervene. It's just like a woman who has a contracted pelvis and is pregnant. Even though we know that the baby may still pass through alive but we don't wanna take chances cos it may die in the process. It's why you see these cretarded women giving testimonies that they delivered a baby through the vjay even though the doctor said otherwise and the lord brought the baby out. The ones that die from trying to give birth with prolonged labor due to contracted pelvis would of course not be alive to say anything

LordReed:
You avoided answering the question so as to not ruin your interpretation of this as a miracle.



How do you know that?



The doctors are there to be pragmatic and do the least harm, not wait for a situation to turn ugly before acting.



How can we know it was the prayer that caused it if foreign objects naturally move and reposition in the human body?

Exactly what I told the dvllard. Pragmatic is the word

FxMasterz:
So,you have only one case of someone who had a nail longitudinally inside a person who then passed it easily because the nail wasn't in a dangerous position in the tummy. The nail didn't even have to turn for it to be rejected. That has happened many times and does not require prayers to change anything.

It seems you didn't even see the difference in both cases. This is not a matter of just ingestimg a nail but that the nail established itself in a dangerous position and had to change orientation to be able to move out of the body. Otherwise, surgery is the only solution, and that could result in death. After the mother prayed, the nail turned 360° and came out without surgery.

You need to be able to produce a very similar occurrence to this to disprove this miracle

Anyone lost in a jungle can walk out of it unhurt. That wouldn't be a miracle but when that jungle is full of wild and dangerous beasts, any escape is a miracle.

How do you know the cases both of us posted are not dangerous?

FxMasterz:
Absolutely wrong inferences.

The second set of images are not two different images but the same image from different perspectives for better visibility.

The nail turned and repositioned itself in the way to the anus.

Now, even if it rotates 1000 times, have you ever thought of the probability of it ending its rotation in a harmful direction?

If you think that alien objects naturally leave the human body without external interventions; is the human body intelligent enough to purge itself of alien materials? Who gave it such an intelligence? Or that intelligence, similar to the way the body tries to heal itself is just accidental?

If there's a biological process that the body uses to do such things naturally, who programmed that process? It's just by accident and adaptation?

Whatever your theories are, it does not dispel that facts that:

1. God caused delays in the surgery to allow time for prayers to be answered. If this has happened to your child (God forbid), the child would have had surgery same day he or she was appointed. And, who knows what the results could have been. There are many who have died from less complicated matters than this. Give Glory to God!

2. By the time the surgery was to be done, the nail had already rotated unexpectedly because the mother prayed. Was the nail expected to harmlessly change orientation? NO. Nobody expected it. The mother herself was just asking God for intervention. She didn't know how God would do it. Infact, there's no guarantee that any change in orientation would be safe for the child!

This is just God. Give Glory to God! Yeah, we even have cases where such strange objects would disappear after prayers. But just because unlike this woman, most Christians don't do xrays to document issues, people like you would call it a lie. For example, when my daughter grew a tooth in an odd place, I didn't take pictures. I only prayed, smd the tooth changed direction. You can call that a lie if you want. All I know is that the tooth repositioned itself, and my daughter and her siblings who were around at the time are living witnesses of the miracle they experienced. Your own doubts and denials don't amount to anything. They do not stop Jesus from continuing to manifest Himself.

So, my friend. Keep denying and allowing the devil to keep desceiving you. Hey, do not believe the Gospel, and keep calling Jesus names. Call God all types of unprintable names. You own your mouth but someone else owns your ife. That's why you don't have any authority or power to retain your life or determine the time you'll return to the grave? Why? Because it's not yours. You're living on a leased breath. Whenever the owner is ready, He'll take what is His, and then, by that time, though too late, your eyes would open in eternal regrets.

We are telling you all truth about our personal experiences with God. You keep validating your own lying fantasies and standing on false scientific premises that don't last.

1.The number of times the nail turns is irrelevant. What we can infer is that there was a turning or repositioning of the nail. The xrays were at 8 hrs and 24hrs post ingestion showing how the nail turned.
2. Now that you've been defeated that what happened to your 'miracle' was in fact a natural occurrence,you're now delving into 'intelligent design' realm. This is where you'll lose profusely cos the body has a lot of poor design characteristics. How come we have our breathing apparatus in the same place as eating? That is how folks choke to death while eating. Also the reproductive organ is besides the digestive system. Thus babies often come out covered with poo. Also the body often fights against itself. I can go on and on about this intelligent design bullshit
3. About your daughters dental maleruption,u said earlier that it disappeared and reappeared in a normal position. So which lie I go believe

FxMasterz:
From my initial post, I never said foreign objects don't change positions. I was even the one who mentioned peristalsis to you. If you don't understand my line of argument, this should give you more clarity. I have never said they cannot change position They can change positions even dangerously. What I have said right from the beginning till now is that a 360° change in a harmless position that didn't happen before prayer happened after only prayer. And that it isn't a coincidence that instead of changing positions more dangerously (,that probably is very high), it rather changed position to take the child out of harm's way. This probability is slimmer than the dangerous position probability. It happened only after prayer. Definitely God worked as He had always worked.

So how did the other cases where the nails changed positions come about? Did folks pray too?

FxMasterz:
Gabrielshow24 already passed his message to you. That doesn't mean he accepts your denial.

You couldn't even produce at least 5 evidences of people who survived such incidents without surgery, yet you're here trying to disprove an occurrence that is not so rampant, and that happened only after prayer. Or, how many incidents of 360° nail rotation in the tummy have you seen yet in the whole world? All reports online show complications, perforations, surgeries and deaths. The case you brought yesterday was a simple case that never needed a surgery.

Keep denying God. You'll still meet God some day.

From saying it cannot happen,you're now demanding for 5 cases. And if the 5 cases are provided,u ll demand for 50. Your dishonesty has no bounds

FxMasterz:
Please answer a simple yes or no to whether the nail swallowing case is simple or that the nail ejection case is common.

Mind you, Gabrielshow24 has challenged you that peristalsis does not make objects move 360°. Do you have any other natural explanation for the occurrence in the child's tummy?

You cannot say it's not a miracle by just saying it's not. You've got to prove it with natural explanations and multiple samples of similar occurrences. The multiplicity of similar cases will be enough proof to back up your dismissal of a miracle taking place.

Stop being emotional and face this issue headlong my friend.

Your nail did a 180 not 360. Gabrielshow was wrong

FxMasterz:
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I have answered all your questions. I never said foreign objects don't move in tummies. Read the OP. The claims was that this one only moved after prayers. This is premises on the fact that not all objects move. Many never moved. And it's significant that this one moved after prayer. Not only did it move. It made an unusual 360° rotation. Not just a movement.

I have asked you to bring a similar 360° rotation incident relating to a 1 year old or any age within such range. You didn't find one even for adults. The adult case you brogh was not a rotation. That nail had to do 360° rotation, otherwise the child would be in danger. It was that rotation alone that could resolve the issue, and it's not commonplace. This rotation happened only after prayers.

This is my position which you never addressed. Your questions were all of point because they didn't challenge my position in anyway. You're asking questions regarding assertions I never made.

You're just being dishonest. You said foreign objects move without prayers but this one moved with prayers. Question is,how did you know this particular one moved after prayers when you have already admitted they can move spontaneously?
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