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HustlaOfLagos:
One of the National Guards shot appears to have died

Tougher immigration policies coming up next

HustlaOfLagos:
One of the National Guards shot appears to have died

Tougher immigration policies coming up next

RodgersAkpafu:
They were just looking for an excuse

We know their gimmick

Goke7:
Exactly and also for political purposes as the mid terms elections are just a year away

RodgersAkpafu:
They were just looking for an excuse

We know their gimmick

Raalsalghul:
50 years route incoming.

HustlaOfLagos:
Long wait per usual

Got something for me?

obioraval:
Nothing oh. packaging mine also.

RodgersAkpafu:
That is a good question

And I am gonna answer very candidly

Over the last 5 years at the least, because of what i considered to be a lowering of barriers to entry for the UK, all manners of touts, riff raffs etc seeped through the cracks

From the ones who entered via the care route (the ones who bought from Nigeria) to non professionals who had a B.Sc sha and just ran the masters package

As one who works in a uni, I can tell you from Second hand account that some of the admissions team did a shambolic job in the scrutinisation of potential students
I wont call names of Unis, but they know themselves

All they were after was the revenues because the British govt in their folly have refused to heighten funding to these unis, and also at the time, refused to increase school fees for locals 8 years in a row

So a culmination of all these allowed touts and misfits (i know i sound classist but it is the truth) to come here

Their ring light behaviour nko?
How they act?
You live here nau, you see it, you know

When I knew that the NIUK cohort were useless was the day they were arguing and most of them had a consensus that Driver licence has more value than MSc, I was like

When you pay ppl to do your assignments
And you are a seasoned riff raff, thats what you say

Canada on the other hand had huge barriers to entry via express entry and all, coupled with higher rejection rates

On average, better crop of people went to Canada straight from Nigeria than to the UK

Unfortunately for Canada though, they relaxed the bar and fake Indian students newcomers have come to destroy Indians rep in Canada
Nigerians didnt get much from that stream in comparison

So to summarise, now that they have come here abd stayed some years, the barrier to entry us lower compared to if they came straight from naja

This is not to say every NIUK is a seasoned tout and refined riff raff, but we have quite a number in our midst

If Nigerian Canadians allow them to act the same way they do here over there, e don be for them

Goodenoch:
I saw this since when you posted it but I have found it difficult to formulate a response because I am genuinely struggling to understand how you felt comfortable saying all this.

People that entered via care route from Nigeria and non professionals who had a BSC sha and ‘ran masters package’? So…in other words healthcare workers and graduates who decided to emigrate to pursue economic opportunities just like you did but perhaps didn’t have the qualifications/opportunities you did?

You didn’t even think that by virtue of being graduates they have already attained higher qualifications than the majority of adults in this same UK?

And those are the people that you categorize as riff raffs because you happen to work at a university?

Their ring light behavior? What does that even mean? Is the percentage of immigrants who make videos up to 1% or even 0.1%? Even 0.00001%? How many Nigerians are on NIUK and what proportion do those that agreed about driver’s license form, from among the entirety of the Nigerian immigrant community? As a university worker you felt that was a representative enough sample size? Lol.

And how exactly do they act? Like stuck up pretenders who think they’re better than everyone else just because they managed to get a ‘professional’ job and so feel confident enough to denigrate the ‘average Nigerian’ at every turn? What does average Nigerian even mean

Lol . Man if you introspect a little bit more you’ll realize you’re not as far off from what you think an average Nigerian is as you might think, and I assure you that for all your pretensions the people you’re twerking for to show you’re ’not like the others’ see nothing but an average Nigerian when they look at you.

Borrow2222:
You can imagine the type of people we see on the Internet.

Calling someone who paid tuition fees to do a master’s degree and some migrated with their family, spending thousands of pounds(Millions in Naira) that most UK citizens have never seen in their lives — ‘riff‑raff.

You should always understand that it’s usually empty vessels that make the most noise.

He might even be the riff‑raff.

WanderingChild:
This is how wealth confiscation starts.

Goodenoch:
I saw this since when you posted it but I have found it difficult to formulate a response because I am genuinely struggling to understand how you felt comfortable saying all this.

People that entered via care route from Nigeria and non professionals who had a BSC sha and ‘ran masters package’? So…in other words healthcare workers and graduates who decided to emigrate to pursue economic opportunities just like you did but perhaps didn’t have the qualifications/opportunities you did?

You didn’t even think that by virtue of being graduates they have already attained higher qualifications than the majority of adults in this same UK?

And those are the people that you categorize as riff raffs because you happen to work at a university?

Their ring light behavior? What does that even mean? Is the percentage of immigrants who make videos up to 1% or even 0.1%? Even 0.00001%? How many Nigerians are on NIUK and what proportion do those that agreed about driver’s license form, from among the entirety of the Nigerian immigrant community? As a university worker you felt that was a representative enough sample size? Lol.

And how exactly do they act? Like stuck up pretenders who think they’re better than everyone else just because they managed to get a ‘professional’ job and so feel confident enough to denigrate the ‘average Nigerian’ at every turn? What does average Nigerian even mean

Lol . Man if you introspect a little bit more you’ll realize you’re not as far off from what you think an average Nigerian is as you might think, and I assure you that for all your pretensions the people you’re twerking for to show you’re ’not like the others’ see nothing but an average Nigerian when they look at you.

RodgersAkpafu:
What i said is the undiluted truth

And if you feel some kind of way about it
Maybe you should take your advise and do some self introspection yourself

Do you know how many Nigerians and Indians/Pakistani I KNOW that have been caught with fake MOTs and even driving without regularisation of license after the one year lapsed

Should we talk about the yama yama practice of outsourcing assignments back and claiming they were the ones that did it? Should we talk about the disorderly behaviour at bus stops, the lack of basic civic sense

When I was still a student hustling
I used to do security gigs
I hear and see now that there are "special centres to arrange SIA training without the rigour of actually doing the training

Do you know how bad it got to the level that a huge northern agency only take their staff from a designated training centre (i found out about it recently)
It wasnt like this before (even though I am scared for them cos they may be sued sha, but if they have their alibi, they will be fine)
I can go on and on

All these behaviours are behaviours NOT FIT for purpose in a developed country, and many of you (yes you) are engaged in it, ruining our collective reputation

Riff raffs and touts
That's what many of our country men are here, carrying their zig zag ways here
You say professionals in Nigeria?
Abeg I no wan laugh

MOST of the actual professionals who saw the ship about to sink did express entry and went to Canada and Australia

This is not to say we didn't have waves of professionals come in from the UK (especially thr doctors nurses, teachers and all)

But the vast majority of Boriswave no be am, and I say it categorically even though it is making me appear classist

You are even talking bout "bringing money into the country"
How many of them actually paid their fees completely from Nigeria?
Or even had the funds they "claimed to have" in their statement of account?
Before the half fees came into effect
Initial deposit was 2k (N1.2m ish) and they "POFed" the rest
I am not mocking anybody, but thats the truth since you wanted to bring that up

That was why many of them were running helter skelter, working like maloo when they should have been in school to pay up the balance
Again, not mocking anyone, but we know the truth

This clown even talking smack about "they having higher qualifications than most British people" 🤡

So said someone who comes from a country where less than 8% have post secondary educational qualifications (i no wan laugh abeg)

If them sound, why are they outsourcing assignments?
Why are they saying MSc < Driver License
There is what we call anecdotal observations:
If you were on that NIUK thread that day and observed the following

1. Everyone there who agreed had a Masters, AND
2. Agreed that MSc < Driver License
3. Actually met Nigerians who think like that in real life,

What will you conclude ?


Only a bomboclaaaatt will even conceive such crap

Abeg there is a lot to say
Lemme just pin here before I say more than I suppose to

Goodenoch:
Alright, definitely-not-average Nigerian. 👍🏿

RodgersAkpafu:
America DARES NOT
Its credibility is hanging on a thin line

Once they tip it over, there is NO coming back from it
They should ask the Germans how that went for them.

Looking at the American state shipwreck has been a very very painful sight to behold

Now they are trying to drag the Europeans, Australians, Canadians into it

BTW you know about Heritage Foundation?
This is basically their playbook and vision for the world

WanderingChild:
They will and unfortunately get away with it and force other countries to play ball. Think of the many things America has done and gotten away with - the world creates alot of allowance for powerful entities and persons. The US got their sidekick, the UK to join them on the Iraqi "conquest" making up false intelligence and despite up to 1 million people killed in that senseless war, no one said anything.

Recently, Trump started WWIII with tariffs after his midnight communion. Wiped off over $10trillion from the global equity market and no one said anything.

I believe this is the foundation to what is planned long term which is absurd considering the abundance of policies that already exist to check fraud. If people are being deported, why do you need to seize their assets?

With this, America will weaponise the euro dollar system (dollar system) and force compliance from other countries in Europe, Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the UK as regards overseas remittance by illegals.

What is funny is that residents in the US who are still stuffed with thanksgiving turkey will wholehearted support this policy because the narrow thinking of many is on deportation and remigration. Unfortunately, this policy will usher in more draconian surveillance systems for legal residents.

We live in interesting times.

Re think thanks, I am not familiar with the Heritage Foundation. I am mostly familiar with Brookings, Council on Foreign Relations, Chatham House, and Royal United Services Institute.

RodgersAkpafu:
What i said is the undiluted truth

And if you feel some kind of way about it
Maybe you should take your advise and do some self introspection yourself

Do you know how many Nigerians and Indians/Pakistani I KNOW that have been caught with fake MOTs and even driving without regularisation of license after the one year lapsed

Should we talk about the yama yama practice of outsourcing assignments back and claiming they were the ones that did it? Should we talk about the disorderly behaviour at bus stops, the lack of basic civic sense

When I was still a student hustling
I used to do security gigs
I hear and see now that there are "special centres to arrange SIA training without the rigour of actually doing the training

Do you know how bad it got to the level that a huge northern agency only take their staff from a designated training centre (i found out about it recently)
It wasnt like this before (even though I am scared for them cos they may be sued sha, but if they have their alibi, they will be fine)
I can go on and on

All these behaviours are behaviours NOT FIT for purpose in a developed country, and many of you (yes you) are engaged in it, ruining our collective reputation

Riff raffs and touts
That's what many of our country men are here, carrying their zig zag ways here
You say professionals in Nigeria?
Abeg I no wan laugh

MOST of the actual professionals who saw the ship about to sink did express entry and went to Canada and Australia

This is not to say we didn't have waves of professionals come in from the UK (especially thr doctors nurses, teachers and all)

But the vast majority of Boriswave no be am, and I say it categorically even though it is making me appear classist

You are even talking bout "bringing money into the country"
How many of them actually paid their fees completely from Nigeria?
Or even had the funds they "claimed to have" in their statement of account?
Before the half fees came into effect
Initial deposit was 2k (N1.2m ish) and they "POFed" the rest
I am not mocking anybody, but thats the truth since you wanted to bring that up

That was why many of them were running helter skelter, working like maloo when they should have been in school to pay up the balance
Again, not mocking anyone, but we know the truth

This clown even talking smack about "they having higher qualifications than most British people" 🤡

So said someone who comes from a country where less than 8% have post secondary educational qualifications (i no wan laugh abeg)

If them sound, why are they outsourcing assignments?
Why are they saying MSc < Driver License
There is what we call anecdotal observations:
If you were on that NIUK thread that day and observed the following

1. Everyone there who agreed had a Masters, AND
2. Agreed that MSc < Driver License
3. Actually met Nigerians who think like that in real life,

What will you conclude ?


Only a bomboclaaaatt will even conceive such crap

Abeg there is a lot to say
Lemme just pin here before I say more than I suppose to

WanderingChild:
I read this and laughed really hard. It's going midnight and I dont want to constitute a nuisance. The laugh is good for the heart. I also could literally touch your pain. Slow your roll - the matter of Nigeria can make one go mad. I have learnt that having a merry heart before reviewing such helps.

Whenever discussions like this arise, I always ask people to find out why no one ever talks like this about the Chinese and Singaporeans and South Koreans and Japanese, etc. Trump is the one now shouting that the US needs the 600k Chinese students and thousands of South Korean workers to help the US in "re-industrialising".

It isn't that these countries or their citizens commit no crime (they commit the highest and worse kinds), it is just that their usefulness to society far outweighs their ills. I wonder why you rarely and almost never see any of these folks working in care jobs or riding uber or working shifts in warehouses etc. They have set a low for themselves.

I have come to conclude that for most Nigerians, our worldview about life is very limited. I say this with all sense of humility. We are so impressed with little things. Our attempt at sophistication exposes how shallow we are as any exposed person can easily see the inferiority complex we suffer from.

From lack of comprehension, to absence of adventurism to absence of empathy (they will point out Aunty Esther, my God!) to lack of critical thinking, etc., these all play a role in our inability to translate our brilliance (we understand basic concepts like reading and writing) to intelligence and sophistication. I posit that our culture and religion have mostly facilitated this. Culturally, we have been stripped of self esteem as a people with religion completing the brainwashing by disabling our ability to think critically.

I do not pontificate that man cannot have his or her lows. No. Usually enlightenment helps to create a boost. However, when we deliberately and intentionally decide to live low, think low, and act low, we not only eliminate our ability to build sophistication but also set low bars for our offsprings to aspire to. We thus set ourselves and offsprings to play under a bar ensuring we keep the rat race running.

If anyone is aghast that we are using words such as *riff raffs* to describe ourselves, then it will be helpful if you can tell me the kind of people that live in a "now disgraced country". When Trump said that he was permanently pausing migration from 3rd world countries, I can assure you that folks from South Korea and Singapore and Japan and China were not looking for a list to find out if their countries are 3rd world.

Goodenoch:
I saw this since when you posted it but I have found it difficult to formulate a response because I am genuinely struggling to understand how you felt comfortable saying all this.

People that entered via care route from Nigeria and non professionals who had a BSC sha and ‘ran masters package’? So…in other words healthcare workers and graduates who decided to emigrate to pursue economic opportunities just like you did but perhaps didn’t have the qualifications/opportunities you did?

You didn’t even think that by virtue of being graduates they have already attained higher qualifications than the majority of adults in this same UK?

And those are the people that you categorize as riff raffs because you happen to work at a university?

Their ring light behavior? What does that even mean? Is the percentage of immigrants who make videos up to 1% or even 0.1%? Even 0.00001%? How many Nigerians are on NIUK and what proportion do those that agreed about driver’s license form, from among the entirety of the Nigerian immigrant community? As a university worker you felt that was a representative enough sample size? Lol.

And how exactly do they act? Like stuck up pretenders who think they’re better than everyone else just because they managed to get a ‘professional’ job and so feel confident enough to denigrate the ‘average Nigerian’ at every turn? What does average Nigerian even mean

Lol . Man if you introspect a little bit more you’ll realize you’re not as far off from what you think an average Nigerian is as you might think, and I assure you that for all your pretensions the people you’re twerking for to show you’re ’not like the others’ see nothing but an average Nigerian when they look at you.

RodgersAkpafu:
im gonna respond to this paragraph by paragraph later in the day

BUT before then

Lemme just state that I DISAGREE with the part where you said "they commit worse crimes"

Esp for Japanese

Two things
1. There is no culture of celebrating crimes and criminal behaviour in their own society

AND

2. Whoever gets caught will get dealt with
Where we come from, criminals are put on a pedestal
Heck, our country is even being ran by a criminal

every society has criminals
it is the values of the society and how they treat them that makes the difference

or maybe what you meant is that their own criminals commit more "sophisticated" crimes

RodgersAkpafu:
Well, its only a matter of time before his country even get fed up with him and "cages" him as a lame duck

I still believe the rest of the western world wont descend to this level

There is a reason why most European countries debanked Americans in the first place
The headache of FATCA et al became too much

WanderingChild:
When you look at the dollar bill ($1), there is only a portrait of George Washington. When you take the 50 Naira note, there are four musketeers on it. The four heads there unfortunately do not add any value to the note. $1 = 30x the 50 NGN note.

That is how we are valued in the world today. The problem we have as Nigerians is that we use outlier stats to create arguments that don't hold true under proper scrutiny.

A good screening I can relate to is Australia's immigration system and formerly Canada's. Peers of equivalent standing as myself bar high salary and leading nationally funded projects have applied for their EOIs under the Australia NIV and are still waiting for an invite. These are folks who feature regularly in the top 2% of global researchers worldwide by citation count. I have been invited now twice. Of the 3 reasons stated in my invitation, two are absent from my Nigerian peers. They have the PhDs, citations and supervisions but Australia does not consider them sufficient enough to warrant an invite. On Reddit, I have seen someone with just a MSc and 11 patents get an invite in 2 weeks. Imagine the calibre of folks that will be onboarded into such country. Now ask yourself how many Nigerians will get such privilege. I can assure you that the selection will mostly been Americans and Asians (Chinese, Japanese, South Koreans, etc.).

Go to any m7 university and find out how many Nigerians make a cohort? On a per capita basis, compare with the Asians and again you see that we are irrelevant. Mention the field of research and I bet you any Nigerian you see at all is a statistical outlier.

I am afraid to say we are not really net positive contributors to humanity. You mention education? Do you want to compare the education in Nigeria with what you get in an m7 university? Have you seen any Nigerian university ever in the top 500 of university rankings? ASUU is on indefinite strike, have you heard about that in Europe or America or China or Singapore? Nobel laureate (don't even say it)? Field Marshall? Turing?

No one is twerking for attention to the whites. I can never change how they think about me - it is their culture gotten from the Greeks (Britainnia is a break out of the old Roman empire (that defeated Greece and imbibed its philosophy) along with Franco, and the others). However, humanity and even the same racists respect value. That is why when we apply for things and are exceptional we get it.

The *riff raff* tag is unfortunately apt. It describes sufficiently the kind of people who live in a "now disgraced country".

WanderingChild:
When you look at the dollar bill ($1), there is only a portrait of George Washington. When you take the 50 Naira note, there are four musketeers on it. The four heads there unfortunately do not add any value to the note. $1 = 30x the 50 NGN note.

That is how we are valued in the world today. The problem we have as Nigerians is that we use outlier stats to create arguments that don't hold true under proper scrutiny.

A good screening I can relate to is Australia's immigration system and formerly Canada's. Peers of equivalent standing as myself bar high salary and leading nationally funded projects have applied for their EOIs under the Australia NIV and are still waiting for an invite. These are folks who feature regularly in the top 2% of global researchers worldwide by citation count. I have been invited now twice. Of the 3 reasons stated in my invitation, two are absent from my Nigerian peers. They have the PhDs, citations and supervisions but Australia does not consider them sufficient enough to warrant an invite. On Reddit, I have seen someone with just a MSc and 11 patents get an invite in 2 weeks. Imagine the calibre of folks that will be onboarded into such country. Now ask yourself how many Nigerians will get such privilege. I can assure you that the selection will mostly been Americans and Asians (Chinese, Japanese, South Koreans, etc.).

Go to any m7 university and find out how many Nigerians make a cohort? On a per capita basis, compare with the Asians and again you see that we are irrelevant. Mention the field of research and I bet you any Nigerian you see at all is a statistical outlier.

I am afraid to say we are not really net positive contributors to humanity. You mention education? Do you want to compare the education in Nigeria with what you get in an m7 university? Have you seen any Nigerian university ever in the top 500 of university rankings? ASUU is on indefinite strike, have you heard about that in Europe or America or China or Singapore? Nobel laureate (don't even say it)? Field Marshall? Turing?

No one is twerking for attention to the whites. I can never change how they think about me - it is their culture gotten from the Greeks (Britainnia is a break out of the old Roman empire (that defeated Greece and imbibed its philosophy) along with Franco, and the others). However, humanity and even the same racists respect value. That is why when we apply for things and are exceptional we get it.

The *riff raff* tag is unfortunately apt. It describes sufficiently the kind of people who live in a "now disgraced country".

Goodenoch:
You are saying something entirely different from what the discussion was. I’m not interested in debating that but I must admit that your opinion of your individual status and those of people you engage with regularly as riff raffs may be entirely justified. You know yourself best, after all.

However it might be useful to try to engage (or at least scout via social media) people outside your circle and you’ll find that Nigerians are quite accomplished and well represented in many fields, despite numerous challenges.

RodgersAkpafu:
why was my post taken down?
and my account banned from posting ?


Ill post it again

RodgersAkpafu:
Lets see if someone will report it to het taken down agajn