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For those who think it’s only the Brits that are emigrating, non-eu emigration keeps rising

Goke7:
For those who think it’s only the Brits that are emigrating, non-eu emigration keeps rising

Thank you

Goodenoch:
You are saying something entirely different from what the discussion was. I’m not interested in debating that but I must admit that your opinion of your individual status and those of people you engage with regularly as riff-raff may be entirely justified. You know yourself best, after all.

However it might be useful to try to engage (or at least scout via social media) people outside your circle and you’ll find that Nigerians are quite accomplished and well represented in many fields, despite numerous challenges.

This is 100% true and not subject for debate
Esp the challenges part
Coming from a country where the political and in a way business elite have made it their life mission to destroy their people in multidimensional ways

From the lecturer who failed "you"
To other structural problems
Unconducive environment
Dysfunction
Rat race struggles
All that

The riff raffs to be honest are victims of coning from dysfunctional situations , which has warped many of them world views

Hmmm

Goke7:
For those who think it’s only the Brits that are emigrating, non-eu emigration keeps rising

Perhaps students and families leaving due to scarcity of sponsored jobs at the bolded?

I know a few from 2021/2022 cohort yet to get a job.

Raalsalghul:
Perhaps students and families leaving due to scarcity of sponsored jobs at the bolded?

I know a few from 2021/2022 cohort yet to get a job.

This January, there will be a lot leaving the country because their Graduate Visa has expired by then and no show

RodgersAkpafu:
This January, there will be a lot leaving the country because their Graduate Visa has expired by then and no show

Most likely from the 2022 September set.

The bubble and bust of the so called 'Boriswave' will be a tale for future generations.

The calculation has changed: what the new settlement timeline really means for Nigerian families

Something fundamental has shifted, and I am not sure we are all sitting with what it means yet.

When many of us arrived during the Boris wave - professionals in our 40s with young children and careers we had built over decades - the trade-off seemed straightforward. Six years. That was the number. Six years of driving Ubers, stacking shelves, working care homes despite our degrees and experience. Six years, then settlement, then we could breathe again. The passport would open doors. The children would be established in good schools. By our late 40s or early 50s, we would have options. We could return home with British citizenship as backup, restart our careers here with legal certainty, or leverage what we had built in Nigeria with the mobility a UK passport provides.

Six years felt manageable. A difficult chapter, yes, but one with a clear end date.

Now it is 10 to 15 years for most of us.

And that is not just a longer wait. It is a different life entirely.

What we are actually trading
Let us be honest about what 10 to 15 years means. It means reaching settlement in your late 50s or early 60s. It means your prime working years - the decades when you should be at your peak earning potential, building something, leading, creating - spent in survival mode. It means watching your expertise become dated, your professional networks back home dissolve, your confidence erode.

It means your children will grow up watching you diminished. They will go through their crucial teenage years, year when they are forming their understanding of work, ambition, what their parents are capable of, seeing you overqualified and underemployed. They will not remember the person you were back home. They will just know this version.

I am not saying this to depress anyone. I am saying it because we need to look clearly at what we have signed up for, especially now that the terms have changed.

The questions we should be asking
Here is what I think each family needs to sit down and honestly discuss:

At my age now, with everything I know about how careers work, how age discrimination functions, how rusty skills become, do I genuinely believe I can restart my professional life at 58? At 62?
Not in theory. Not in a motivational speech. In reality.

Am I at peace with the idea that my professional story essentially ends here? That these survival jobs might be my peak from now on?
Because if the honest answer is "I am not willing to accept that", if there is still ambition there, still a desire to build something, still a version of yourself you want to become, then 15 years might be too long. It might cost you something you cannot get back.

Is my child's British future genuinely worth my professional death?
That sounds dramatic, but I mean it seriously. We are betting everything on our children thriving in a system that is actively becoming more hostile to immigrants, more expensive, more competitive. We are assuming they will have access to networks, opportunities, wealth-building tools. We are assuming Britain in 2040 will still be the country we imagined when we left Nigeria.

What if we are wrong?

What I am worried about
I see the early warning signs already. Parents in their late 40s who are exhausted in ways that sleep will not fix. Marriages straining under financial pressure and wounded pride. Teenagers who are embarrassed by their parents' accents, their jobs, their lack of understanding of British cultural codes.

In 10 years, many of these parents will be in their late 50s, still waiting for settlement, watching their children prepare for university while they are still doing agency work. The cognitive dissonance of that, the gap between who you were supposed to be and who you have become does something to people.

I worry about the mental health crisis that is coming. The depression that settles in when you realize the sacrifice did not pay off the way you thought it would. The strokes and heart attacks that come from years of suppressed frustration. The bitterness that seeps into every family dinner.

And I worry about the kids. The ones who will be 25 in 15 years, looking back at parents who gave up everything for them, feeling a guilt and resentment, they cannot quite articulate. The ones who will wonder why their parents stayed when things clearly were not working. The ones who will be emotionally distant because they learned early to protect themselves from their parents' pain.

What this is not
This is not me saying everyone should leave. Some families are exactly where they need to be. Some had nothing to return to in Nigeria, no safety, no opportunities, no viable alternative. Some have children thriving here in ways that would have been impossible back home. Some parents genuinely are content with the trade-off, even at 15 years.

This also is not me pretending Nigeria is some paradise we are all missing out on. We all know why we left.

What this is
This is me saying: the deal has changed. You did not sign up for 15 years. And it is okay to reassess.

It is okay to admit that what made sense at 6 years does not make sense at 15. It is okay to say "I thought I could do this, but I cannot." It is okay to change course.

What is not okay is sleepwalking through the next decade, pretending everything is fine, telling yourself it will all work out, while the resentment builds and the years slip away and your relationship with your family slowly corrodes.

Sit down with your spouse. Look at your actual situation, not the one you hoped for, the one you have. Look at your children, really look at them. Are they flourishing or just surviving? Look at yourself. Are you still you, or have you become someone you do not recognize?

And then decide. Properly decide. Not just keep going because you have already invested so much. Not just because going back feels like failure. Not just because you do not know what else to do.

Decide because you have looked clearly at the next 10 years and you know - really know - that this is the right path for your family.

Because whatever you choose, your children will live with the consequences. And so will you.

Guys, be wary of those who provide unsolicited advice, those who look down on others, and those who speak arrogantly from their privilege positions.

babajeje123:
Guys, be wary of those who provide unsolicited advice, those who look down on others, and those who speak arrogantly from their privilege positions.

C’est fini. 👍🏿

One thing I'd want to caveat though is that beware of believing everything people say here. People who are truly doing exceptionally well will typically not feel the need to blow their trumpets to impress random people on an internet forum.

In my experience it's people dealing with deep-seated insecurities that feel the need to harp on and on about how much better than others they are.

Goodenoch:
C’est finis. 👍🏿

One thing I'd want to caveat though is that beware of believing everything people here. People who are truly doing exceptionally well will typically not feel the need to blow their trumpets to impress random people on an internet forum.

In my experience it's people dealing with deep-seated insecurities that feel the need to harp on and on about how much better than others they are.

Such people sound like 'I better pass my neighbour tiger generator'. Too much noise with negligible capacity.

babajeje123:
Guys, be wary of those who provide unsolicited advice, those who look down on others, and those who speak arrogantly from their privilege positions.

We’ve had them here over and over again. They usually don’t last here on this thread as they only show up when there are unfavourable immigration policies flying around but pretend to be encouragers while they mock others.

babajeje123:
Guys, be wary of those who provide unsolicited advice, those who look down on others, and those who speak arrogantly from their privilege positions.

🤡 🤡

Goodenoch:
C’est fini. 👍🏿

One thing I'd want to caveat though is that beware of believing everything people say here. People who are truly doing exceptionally well will typically not feel the need to blow their trumpets to impress random people on an internet forum.

In my experience it's people dealing with deep-seated insecurities that feel the need to harp on and on about how much better than others they are.

🤡 🤡

WanderingChild:
The calculation has changed: what the new settlement timeline really means for Nigerian families

Something fundamental has shifted, and I am not sure we are all sitting with what it means yet.

When many of us arrived during the Boris wave - professionals in our 40s with young children and careers we had built over decades - the trade-off seemed straightforward. Six years. That was the number. Six years of driving Ubers, stacking shelves, working care homes despite our degrees and experience. Six years, then settlement, then we could breathe again. The passport would open doors. The children would be established in good schools. By our late 40s or early 50s, we would have options. We could return home with British citizenship as backup, restart our careers here with legal certainty, or leverage what we had built in Nigeria with the mobility a UK passport provides.

Six years felt manageable. A difficult chapter, yes, but one with a clear end date.

Now it is 10 to 15 years for most of us.

And that is not just a longer wait. It is a different life entirely.

What we are actually trading
Let us be honest about what 10 to 15 years means. It means reaching settlement in your late 50s or early 60s. It means your prime working years - the decades when you should be at your peak earning potential, building something, leading, creating - spent in survival mode. It means watching your expertise become dated, your professional networks back home dissolve, your confidence erode.

It means your children will grow up watching you diminished. They will go through their crucial teenage years, year when they are forming their understanding of work, ambition, what their parents are capable of, seeing you overqualified and underemployed. They will not remember the person you were back home. They will just know this version.

I am not saying this to depress anyone. I am saying it because we need to look clearly at what we have signed up for, especially now that the terms have changed.

The questions we should be asking
Here is what I think each family needs to sit down and honestly discuss:

At my age now, with everything I know about how careers work, how age discrimination functions, how rusty skills become, do I genuinely believe I can restart my professional life at 58? At 62?
Not in theory. Not in a motivational speech. In reality.

Am I at peace with the idea that my professional story essentially ends here? That these survival jobs might be my peak from now on?
Because if the honest answer is "I am not willing to accept that", if there is still ambition there, still a desire to build something, still a version of yourself you want to become, then 15 years might be too long. It might cost you something you cannot get back.

Is my child's British future genuinely worth my professional death?
That sounds dramatic, but I mean it seriously. We are betting everything on our children thriving in a system that is actively becoming more hostile to immigrants, more expensive, more competitive. We are assuming they will have access to networks, opportunities, wealth-building tools. We are assuming Britain in 2040 will still be the country we imagined when we left Nigeria.

What if we are wrong?

What I am worried about
I see the early warning signs already. Parents in their late 40s who are exhausted in ways that sleep will not fix. Marriages straining under financial pressure and wounded pride. Teenagers who are embarrassed by their parents' accents, their jobs, their lack of understanding of British cultural codes.

In 10 years, many of these parents will be in their late 50s, still waiting for settlement, watching their children prepare for university while they are still doing agency work. The cognitive dissonance of that, the gap between who you were supposed to be and who you have become does something to people.

I worry about the mental health crisis that is coming. The depression that settles in when you realize the sacrifice did not pay off the way you thought it would. The strokes and heart attacks that come from years of suppressed frustration. The bitterness that seeps into every family dinner.

And I worry about the kids. The ones who will be 25 in 15 years, looking back at parents who gave up everything for them, feeling a guilt and resentment, they cannot quite articulate. The ones who will wonder why their parents stayed when things clearly were not working. The ones who will be emotionally distant because they learned early to protect themselves from their parents' pain.

What this is not
This is not me saying everyone should leave. Some families are exactly where they need to be. Some had nothing to return to in Nigeria, no safety, no opportunities, no viable alternative. Some have children thriving here in ways that would have been impossible back home. Some parents genuinely are content with the trade-off, even at 15 years.

This also is not me pretending Nigeria is some paradise we are all missing out on. We all know why we left.

What this is
This is me saying: the deal has changed. You did not sign up for 15 years. And it is okay to reassess.

It is okay to admit that what made sense at 6 years does not make sense at 15. It is okay to say "I thought I could do this, but I cannot." It is okay to change course.

What is not okay is sleepwalking through the next decade, pretending everything is fine, telling yourself it will all work out, while the resentment builds and the years slip away and your relationship with your family slowly corrodes.

Sit down with your spouse. Look at your actual situation, not the one you hoped for, the one you have. Look at your children, really look at them. Are they flourishing or just surviving? Look at yourself. Are you still you, or have you become someone you do not recognize?

And then decide. Properly decide. Not just keep going because you have already invested so much. Not just because going back feels like failure. Not just because you do not know what else to do.

Decide because you have looked clearly at the next 10 years and you know - really know - that this is the right path for your family.

Because whatever you choose, your children will live with the consequences. And so will you.

God bless you for this post

I really hope ppl get respite because this. is not even funny again

While insecure ppl are busy hurting because of "riff raff" commentary, others like yourself have a clear idea 💡 of what is going on and have some clarity

Its a painful trade off

babajeje123:
Guys, be wary of those who provide unsolicited advice, those who look down on others, and those who speak arrogantly from their privilege positions.

Bros, to settle this matter, you have to name names.

Raalsalghul:
Bros, to settle this matter, you have to name names.

he is referring to folks like me

this riff raff talk really hit them like stray bullet

To the point of hallucinations

That's why they are conjuring spurious scenarios in their head

They should point out where anyone said he is bigger or better than other people, or boasting bout being in top jobs
No be yeye be that

The fact that they even think that it is by "spending money on school fees that "locals" have not seen" or whatever that exempt someone from being a riff raff is even more laughable

Its a primarily behavioural trait
That's why we have touts and riff raffs at the helm of affairs
Like drunkard Wike talking like a tout to a troop

A "lawyer" , former state gov and now minister

Raalsalghul:
Bros, to settle this matter, you have to name names.

I've got no time for keyboard warriors.

Living in Britain has thought me that what the fact is matters less. What's more important is how its perceived.

The constant villification of migrants has created alot of warped narratives. One being that a cohort of humans by reason of their looks aren't worthy to exist in a place. Or the tired narrative in the anglosphere that folks who came into one country wouldn't be able to get in elsewhere.

On the 'Nigerians in Canada' thread, someone once told me that migrants have 'spoilt' the UK. Had to remind him that the UK though double the population of Canada takes in far less people than the later. Among nations in the anglosphere, the UK has been traditionally difficult to get into. This is reflected in it's foreign-born population which is far less than Canada or Australia.

Coming to hard numbers- Canada with a population of 40 million is planned to take in 380,000 (+/- 30,000) permanent residents per year for the next few years. This is beside other routes. Australia has also announced their plan. The UK lets uncertainty persist.


In all, facts are:
1. The idea that those most who came into the UK aren't 'good enough' to be accepted elsewhere is false.
2. The talk that the UK is a generous outlier in accepting migrants is hardly reflected in the data.
3. The talk that it's thesame everywhere is categorically wrong. Even in Britain, opportunities differ significantly across board.

WanderingChild:
@jedisco

It seems my response to you was hidden twice.

Good catch. Hopefully, I can return to my old account soon.

The issues you address re pension and property and your points are valid if and only if certain assumptions hold true. First, that policies continue to remain protective as they are without changing too much tomorrow to impact people. Second, that people can muster the financial strength to wrangle through the potential implications such as taxes and associated compliance that may exist. Third, that people have measures in place to ensure that on their demise, their estate can be fairly accessed by their heirs. I shall set forth to provide more details.

First, we are no strangers to pervasive policies that have been enacted worldwide and historically. Throughout history, governments have restricted non-citizens' economic rights through wartime measures (where asset freezes and confiscations occurred during declared or undeclared conflicts), racial/ethnic targeting (where laws are coded as nationality-based but designed to target specific groups), economic warfare (with redistribution policies framed as correcting historical injustices), national security (post-9/11 measures and sanctions regimes), limited due process (administrative seizures without criminal convictions), difficulty accessing compensation (with long delays, inadequate payments, or no restitution), etc. These policies have consistently resulted in substantial financial losses, displacement, and long-term economic hardship for affected communities, with compensation efforts often proving inadequate or taking decades to materialize. It may be possible to argue that one is merely being over-dramatic, but seeing that one’s base nationality is Nigerian that has on the international stage be threatened with invasion and even designated as a “now disgraced country”, and that the next 2-5 sets of leadership over the next 25 years that will be emerging in most of these developed countries are going to be nationalistic with very extreme tendencies, I do not think it is safe for immigrants to invest their foundational wealth in these countries. Proceeds of such [foundational] wealth could be invested in such countries, but the base (or foundational wealth) needs to be mobile. I am essentially advocating for a tiered wealth protection strategy based on legal vulnerability. This is because during nationalism, or political shifts, non-citizens are legally vulnerable in ways citizens are not. Historically, the cycle is openness then crises then restriction then scapegoating then confiscation. I note here @jedisco that you hold British Citizenship. You have a protection that many immigrants may never have. This changes the dynamics for you.

Second, it is now becoming VERY expensive to maintain accountability as we migrate. The ongoing administrative and financial burden of maintaining cross-border tax compliance can indeed be so substantial that it effectively erodes or even negates the value of maintaining investments across multiple jurisdictions. This represents a different kind of “cost” than outright confiscation, but it is no less real for migrants. For US residents (GC holders and citizens), some overseas investments are tax inefficient (please this is not financial advice – just my opinion). Offshore Investment Bonds (deemed as Passive Foreign Investment Companies or PFICs), QROPS and ISAs, which although favourable from a UK taxation perspective, they are considered toxic investments in the U.S. U.S. taxpayers investing in Canadian funds may encounter PFIC rules that trigger unfavourable tax treatment unless handled carefully. Many overseas institutions will severe relationships with you once you acquire a US citizenship or permanent residency status due to the compliance burdens imposed by FACTA. Recent reforms including the abolition of the UK Lifetime Allowance, the removal of exemptions on Overseas Transfer Tax for some cross-border pension transfers, and the inclusion of pension benefits into inheritance taxes could all have considerable impact on finance planning. For many migrants, the economically rational choice becomes to liquidate cross-border investments rather than maintain them. This is not because of confiscation, but because compliance costs make them financially unviable. This represents a form of administrative confiscation through complexity, where the barrier is not a government seizing property but making it so burdensome to keep that disposal becomes the only practical option. Again, I note @jedisco that you are a PR in Canada. Unlike (rather than similar to) you, I hold a US green card which means my reality is totally different from what you may face. Another dimension for a dual national with a third PR like you. We may have similar bases (Nigerian and British citizenship, but our realities tax wise change at Canada/US route).

Third, there is a real vulnerability in cross-border estate planning that many immigrants face: assets held in countries where neither the deceased nor their heirs have legal status can become legally complicated, expensive, or even inaccessible to recover. For instance,
different countries have vastly different inheritance laws, probate processes, and requirements for foreign heirs. Some countries impose heavy estate taxes on non-residents, require local legal representation (expensive), or have lengthy probate processes that can take years. If heirs are minors living abroad, the complexity multiplies. They may need court-appointed guardians or trustees recognized by foreign courts. Also, there is the documentation burden that heirs could face. Documents need to be apostilled (I am assuming no translation since we are all English speaking), proof of relationship, proof of death recognized by foreign jurisdictions, and sometimes must physically appear in the country where assets are held. For young heirs or those without the resources to navigate foreign legal systems, this creates real barriers. We must not also ignore the fact that some investments like businesses, rental properties, or accounts with maintenance requirements can deteriorate in value during prolonged probate, especially if heirs cannot access them quickly. My argument here is that setting up international estate structures like offshore trusts, properly drafted wills valid in multiple jurisdictions, powers of attorney etc., can cost thousands to tens of thousands of pounds, which many working immigrants simply cannot afford while building their lives.

My caution is this: do not put your survival at the mercy of a system where you are a second-class participant. This is not paranoia. This is understanding the legal and political reality of being an immigrant, especially in an age of rising nationalism and resource competition.

I agree that it is tragic that this level of defensive thinking is necessary. But given historical precedent and current trends, keeping your foundational wealth only where you have full legal protection is prudent risk management, not excessive caution. I am not against investing in the UK for immigrants without settled status, I am saying foundational wealth should be in places where you have the most protection as a citizen. I must also note that we must appreciate seeing things from the perspective of most immigrants who may never acquire settled status in the UK or elsewhere and who may also not have the sophistication to navigate the complex realities involved in cross border management of investments.

There is alot of scaremongering in your post. If the financial gains of owning property in the UK stops working, I'd sell up, bank the gains and invest elsewhere. If I waited until I became a British citizen before I started investing, I'd still have been looking around. I could have easily liquidated my stake and moved with it if it made sense. I wonder if you factored in the many advantages. Following your line of thought, maybe I should rent until I become a Canadian citizen.


All said, what should a resident+ family in the UK who might soon be on a 10yr route do as regards housing? Not buy their property and rent or join the 'comical' group of home owners?

lavida001:
Could Dr pepple be thesame Dr on here that recently moved to Canada 🇨🇦 🤔 just thinking out loud and between I’m happy he was dragged.

Hehe. Almost did not respond to you.... but na weekend and sipping my whiskey, make I indulge.

I see I am still living rent-free in your head. Don't worry, I'd soon do some renovation.
BTW, do you now call it Canada and not utopia? Hehe

I don't even know what group you're referring to. The world is much bigger than your tiny cocoon on social media. I remember you were one of those who warned folks not to buy a place in the UK. How's that advise going for you?

Like I've told you multiple times, I have no issue with you looking down on or calling yourself names. Where I draw the line is when you expect me to see the world as you do. Look outside your circle, not everyone talks themselves down. I share my experience so we can see there is an alternate reality as it's easy to think what you see is all there is to life. Afterall, it's been a while since folks here blamed migrants for not being able to see a doctor or for the housing crises. I can only hope you have stop idolising those who denigrate you.

jedisco:
Living in Britain has thought me that what the fact is matters less. What's more important is how its perceived.

The constant villification of migrants has created alot of warped narratives. One being that a cohort of humans by reason of their looks aren't worthy to exist in a place. Or the tired narrative in the anglosphere that folks who came into one country wouldn't be able to get in elsewhere.

On the 'Nigerians in Canada' thread, someone once told me that migrants have 'spoilt' the UK. Had to remind him that the UK though double the population of Canada takes in far less people than the later. Among nations in the anglosphere, the UK has been traditionally difficult to get into. This is reflected in it's foreign-born population which is far less than Canada or Australia.

Coming to hard numbers- Canada with a population of 40 million is planned to take in 380,000 (+/- 30,000) permanent residents per year for the next few years. This is beside other routes. Australia has also announced their plan. The UK lets uncertainty persist.


In all, facts are:
1. The idea that those most who came into the UK aren't 'good enough' to be accepted elsewhere is false.
2. The talk that the UK is a generous outlier in accepting migrants is hardly reflected in the data.
3. The talk that it's thesame everywhere is categorically wrong. Even in Britain, opportunities differ significantly across board.

While this has it's own merit
My rebuttal to this is that , my frame of argument is Boriswave UK vs same period Canada

What ur data shows is the broader picture
Barriers to entry weakened during the Boris wave period for studies, and the data shows that Britain got its HIGHEST net migration figures arguably in history during this period (an undeniable statistical fact)
So if we carve out that time period and make it the time series basis for this argument, the former holds
If we do a comparative analysis pre and post boris wave, it also holds


I can bet that MOST people who took the care / japa via masters route would not have made the cut for express entry as at the time they made that move
And if you have had honest conversations with Nigerians here, they will tell you that if there was another way that didn't have to entangle them with school, they would have taken it.


You are pre Boriswave, and entered when UK was still in a way entangled with the EU, so una story differ a bit


Lemme even do this


1. The idea that those most who came into the UK aren't 'good enough' to be accepted elsewhere is false.

Actually, many people who came into the UK via the masters pipeline wont have made the cut for Canada express entry or the Australian point based system.
Many didnt have the job experience
All they had was the degree and business money, or other things going on for them

Go to the UK student visa side (the nairaland thread)
Many of them have to explain "wide study gaps"
Wide study gaps will already put u at a disadvantage for Canada and esp Australia
So ill argue that a significant population (not all, maybe not majority) wouldnt have been able to cross over straight from Nigeria

again. not taking a dig at anyone cos you play the cards life deals you, im just stating observations






2. The talk that the UK is a generous outlier in accepting migrants is hardly reflected in the data

The net migration figures from 2021 onwards tell a different story
I saw the gov.uk data of how many dependant each student brought in for the years after 2021, the Nigerian figures were top 4 highest

Husband wife and four kids on one masters program is quite cheap and generous ticket if you ask me
My small circle of people who went to Canada via studies were not so fortunate


3. The talk that it's thesame everywhere is categorically wrong. Even in Britain, opportunities differ significantly across board.

I can agree to this
Not all fingers are equal
You make the best of where you are


Trudeau at some point removed some guard rails as well, and they are paying for it
But Nigerians i would argue (and would like to be proven wrong) didnt benefit from the Canadian windfall as much as UK own for students path

It was Indians

I've never seen a set of immigrants that's as derided as the Boris wave.

On one hand, you have government calling you 'low skilled' with 'micky mouse' degrees and the other hand we have other set of immigrants calling you 'riff raffs.'

Talk about a double whammy.

Goodenoch:
I saw this since when you posted it but I have found it difficult to formulate a response because I am genuinely struggling to understand how you felt comfortable saying all this.

People that entered via care route from Nigeria and non professionals who had a BSC sha and ‘ran masters package’? So…in other words healthcare workers and graduates who decided to emigrate to pursue economic opportunities just like you did but perhaps didn’t have the qualifications/opportunities you did?

You didn’t even think that by virtue of being graduates they have already attained higher qualifications than the majority of adults in this same UK?

And those are the people that you categorize as riff raffs because you happen to work at a university?

Their ring light behavior? What does that even mean? Is the percentage of immigrants who make videos up to 1% or even 0.1%? Even 0.00001%? How many Nigerians are on NIUK and what proportion do those that agreed about driver’s license form, from among the entirety of the Nigerian immigrant community? As a university worker you felt that was a representative enough sample size? Lol.

And how exactly do they act? Like stuck up pretenders who think they’re better than everyone else just because they managed to get a ‘professional’ job and so feel confident enough to denigrate the ‘average Nigerian’ at every turn? What does average Nigerian even mean

Lol . Man if you introspect a little bit more you’ll realize you’re not as far off from what you think an average Nigerian is as you might think, and I assure you that for all your pretensions the people you’re twerking for to show you’re ’not like the others’ see nothing but an average Nigerian when they look at you.

Many people have deep seated inferiority or self-hate issues and look to reflect their insecurity on others. Folks should read a bit of history and see if European migrants who went to places like Can/U.S or Aus had any qualifications.

Not to long ago, same chap was using racial slurs to describe Indians blaming them for his inability to secure a job as a security guard and jubilating on how Trump would 'show them pepper'. I'm guessing saviour Trump did a good job there.


Now, he's turned on Nigerians. One can describe themselves in what ever way. It's trying to pull others into a concocted thought process that worries me.

Raalsalghul:
I've never seen a set of immigrants that's as derided as the Boris wave.

On one hand, you have government calling you 'low skilled' with 'micky mouse' degrees and the other hand we have other set of immigrants calling you 'riff raffs.'

Talk about a double whammy.

Some even call us COS group/groups.

Na our set suffer pass 😂😂😂

WanderingChild:
I am afraid to say we are not really net positive contributors to humanity. You mention education? Do you want to compare the education in Nigeria with what you get in an m7 university? Have you seen any Nigerian university ever in the top 500 of university rankings? ASUU is on indefinite strike, have you heard about that in Europe or America or China or Singapore? Nobel laureate (don't even say it)? Field Marshall? Turing?

Didn't take long to come thru.

Do you still believe that those who don’t have '£300k to take risk' are useless to humaninty?

Or that any youth not in the top 20 cities of the world is also useless to humanity?

Waiting for you to come with a quote from Oyedepo or a lecturer at Covenant. You sound far removed from reality.


P.s. I'm keen to know why you left your top-20 American city to seek pastures in the UK.

Raalsalghul:
I've never seen a set of immigrants that's as derided as the Boris wave.

On one hand, you have government calling you 'low skilled' with 'micky mouse' degrees and the other hand we have other set of immigrants calling you 'riff raffs.'

Talk about a double whammy.

Shebi the number don dey reduce now, that suppose to make everyone happy now if not then another thing dey be that abi you know any riff raff wey still remain? 😂

AKALAMAGBO:
Some even call us COS group/groups.

Na our set suffer pass 😂😂😂

cos bandits nko 😂

Raalsalghul:
I've never seen a set of immigrants that's as derided as the Boris wave.

On one hand, you have government calling you 'low skilled' with 'micky mouse' degrees and the other hand we have other set of immigrants calling you 'riff raffs.'

Talk about a double whammy.

There are the riff raff elements IN the Boris wave
They were the ones who gave themselves the bad name

No one is saying every boriswave IS a riff raff, but a lot of riff raffs werr captured in the net

If we like, we can scoff. pontificate, scorn, punch in the air, stitch up diatribes against me and all that

The taste is in the pudding

Our yarns here wont change it

jedisco:
Many people have deep seated inferiority or self-hate issues and look to reflect their insecurity on others. Folks should read a bit of history and see if European migrants who went to places like Can/U.S or Aus had any qualifications.

Not to long ago, same chap was using racial slurs to describe Indians blaming them for his inability to secure a job as a security guard and jubilating on how Trump would 'show them pepper'. I'm guessing saviour Trump did a good job there.


Now, he's turned on Nigerians. One can describe themselves in what ever way. It's trying to pull others into a concocted thought process that worries me.

You dont have the boldness to even quote me and mention me by name lmaooo
I know u meant me, and tbvh, idgaf.

Apparently you haven't forgotten our "p.....t" exchange in the other group last year

You can pontificate all u want, but the facts are there to see.
You can assume i have "inferiority complex" (which is your fundamental human right) and any other name u wanna call me, but ill keep saying it as I see it.

I don't know why we get so pissed when the obvious is being said to us.

Look at how the Korean factory episode played out in Georgia
You really think it would have ended such way if it was Nigerians or P...ts who were involved ?

Shebi now you can see with your eyes how the Indian reputation is in the gutter everywhere,
I told u last year, u were busy pontificating over them, now one year after, how far?

and yes, Trump actually stuck a needle in their behind
How did Vivek end ?
Hasn't the Indian for MAGA eyes cleared?
Hasn't country caps remained for H1B?

And no, I don f with Trump, I think he is clown, but I knew MAGA will never accept the useful. P...t idio...s and one year after, we can see it (again, riff raffery lol)

everything i told you will happen has happened
Now Canada is tying the knots to boot the ones in their midst out on TFW stream

No worry everyone, as time goes on, we will see things more clearly

Shebi Hong Kong kept their BNO in this country and they are still on the 5 year path, while we the masses have been thrown to the wolves

That's why I really align with the thoughts of @WamderingChild

The world is not by sentiment or gra gra
It is the realities on the ground we will still deal with AFTER all of us have calmed down from talking here

Goke7:
Shebi the number don dey reduce now, that suppose to make everyone happy now if not then another thing dey be that abi you know any riff raff wey still remain? 😂

lmaooooo
Riff raff still plenty shaaaa

AKALAMAGBO:
Some even call us COS group/groups.

Na our set suffer pass 😂😂😂

Weren't we caught up in the COS rackets net?

Lets be real nau
We know what's happening, but pride will not allow us admit