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A curious mind must ask the question: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace?.

If dey catch u...na Deborah go be ur name

The capital of Pakistan will give you the answer you need.

Bahamas95:
The capital of Pakistan will give you the answer you need.

Do you care to enlighten us?.

Islam dosent mean PEACE


Islam means submission to Allah and Muhammed


You can enter the religion but leaving it means death


You must hate the people of the book ( Christians and jews)

BlackfireX:
Islam dosent mean PEACE


Islam means submission to Allah and Muhammed


You can enter the religion but leaving it means death


You must hate the people of the book ( Christians and jews)

So you say, but everything you see wrong in Islam there is worse in the Bible.

Regarding killing apostates there are many verses in the Bible saying kill spostates, but Christians don't believe in the Bible - we really thank Allah for that, if not the whole world would have been nuked.

Just one example below, if you want more just indicate. Leviticus 24:16

80%+ of recorded killings and wars in history were done by christians - this is the resl teaching of Bible.

muslim100:
So you say, but everything you see wrong in Islam there is worse in the Bible.

Regarding killing apostates there are many verses in the Bible saying kill spostates, but Christians don't believe in the Bible - we really thank Allah for that, if not the whole world would have been nuked.

Just one example below, if you want more just indicate. Leviticus 24:16

80%+ of recorded killings and wars in history were done by christians - this is the resl teaching of Bible.

can you calm down why the anger ?

so i made a claim that islam dosent mean peace it means submission to Aallah and muhamed....which is true.


concerning killing apostate how many people have you seen christains kill.... do you even ask yiurself why?

you should haave asked

see zakir naaik script wont work again incase that is whaat is fuelling you.

let me stop here to hear your response

BlackfireX:
can you calm down why the anger ?

so i made a claim that islam dosent mean peace it means submission to Aallah and muhamed....which is true.


concerning killing apostate how many people have you seen christains kill.... do you even ask yiurself why?

you should haave asked

see zakir naaik script wont work again incase that is whaat is fuelling you.

let me stop here to hear your response

The bible teaches you to kill apostates but you don't. You disobey Biblical teachings.

But wait!

If Jesus/God (same) once commanded stoning to death, burning to death because of apostasy, and later condemned it (hypothetically) - even though he didn't.

Does this mean that he was wrong with the laws at first? Can God go wrong?

Does this mean that he commanded unprecedented violence then came back to repent by sacrificing himself?

Like, make me understand Abeg.

muslim100:
The bible teaches you to kill apostates but you don't. You disobey Biblical teachings.

But wait!

If Jesus/God (same) once commanded stoning to death, burning to death because of apostasy, and later condemned it (hypothetically) - even though he didn't.

Does this mean that he was wrong with the laws at first? Can God go wrong?

Does this mean that he commanded unprecedented violence then came back to repent by sacrificing himself?

Like, make me understand Abeg.

Please don't jump from one topic to another


Let's settle this first Islam idosent means peace it means submission to Allah and Muhammed decisions.


Let's settle this first before another one
Ok can you do that

BlackfireX:
Please don't jump from one topic to another


Let's settle this first Islam idosent means peace it means submission to Allah and Muhammed decisions.


Let's settle this first before another one
Ok can you do that

I didn't care to answer because it is not just a yes or no.

In Arabic there are two types of nouns -
1. Rigid - words without root
2. Derived - words with root

Derived words are words that have their origin from other another words - especially verbs, some have undebatable origins while there is difference of opinion anong Arabic Linguists regarding many Arabic words.
There are majorly two schools of thought regarding Arabic grammar - Basrah and Khufa (these are names ancient cities).

Islam
Even among scholars there is no consensus on the root of Islam - becauae the root of PEACE & SUBMISSION are both - س، ل، م. Though the majority - what I incline to is that Islam is derived from the roots of submission.

You might say - Scholars did this (Islam is derived from peace) to make Islam look good, yet you are blatantly wrong, and here is the reason.

Even the most used words in Arabic have different roots, and YES - a word can have two roots.

Example of words with different opinions regarding their origin
1. Allah - Used by all Arabs to refer to God regardless of their religion.
Some scholars say it is rigid some say it os derived from - ء، ل، ه.

2. Name/Noun - pronounced ISMUN: There is also a difference of opinion while some say it is derived from sumuww, some say it is wasmu

Many every day words have these difference of opinion among scholars.

If a Muslim says Islam is derived from both PEACE and SUBMISSION is he wrong? No!

You can take this anywhere, ask any AI model to expand for you.

Some answers are beyond YES or NO.

So Islam means submission to the will of Allah with obedience, going far away from Idolatory, and obeying the prophet as he was sent by Allah.

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muslim100:
I didn't care to answer because it is not just a yes or no.

In Arabic there are two types of nouns -
1. Rigid - words without root
2. Derived - words with root

Derived words are words that have their origin from other another words - especially verbs, some have undebatable origins while there is difference of opinion anong Arabic Linguists regarding many Arabic words.
There are majorly two schools of thought regarding Arabic grammar - Basrah and Khufa (these are names ancient cities).

Islam
Even among scholars there is no consensus on the root of Islam - becauae the root of PEACE & SUBMISSION are both - س، ل، م. Though the majority - what I incline to is that Islam is derived from the roots of submission.

You might say - Scholars did this (Islam is derived from peace) to make Islam look good, yet you are blatantly wrong, and here is the reason.

Even the most used words in Arabic have different roots, and YES - a word can have two roots.

Example of words with different opinions regarding their origin
1. Allah - Used by all Arabs to refer to God regardless of their religion.
Some scholars say it is rigid some say it os derived from - ء، ل، ه.

2. Name/Noun - pronounced ISMUN: There is also a difference of opinion while some say it is derived from sumuww, some say it is wasmu

Many every day words have these difference of opinion among scholars.

If a Muslim says Islam is derived from both PEACE and SUBMISSION is he wrong? No!

You can take this anywhere, ask any AI model to expand for you.

Some answers are beyond YES or NO.

So Islam means submission to the will of Allah with obedience, going far away from Idolatory, and obeying the prophet as he was sent by Allah.

So after all this talk ...the summary is...

Islam means submission to Allah and Muhammed decisions and doings.


Can we move on to the next discussion?

BlackfireX:
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So after all this talk ...the summary is...

Islam means submission to Allah and Muhammed decisions and doings.


Can we move on to the next discussion?

You probably didn't care reading!

Islam is submitting to Allah through obedience, and desisting from idolatory/associating partners to him in worship.

As-salam - The source of peace is one of the names of Allah, so YES islam is a religion of peace

Prophet Muhammad is a messenger of Allah, has no share in divinity, he is human - but a prophet and messenger of Allah. His sayings and actions are guided by Allah.

Just like how Jesus is a messenger of Allah, has no share in divinity, he is human. His sayings and actions are guided by Allah. Matthew 21:11, Luke 7:16, John 4:19, Luke 4:24, Mark 6:15, Luke 24:19, John 7:40, Matthew 26:39, Matthew 26:42, Qur'an 5:75, Qur'an 4:171, Qur'an 61:6 etc.

muslim100:
You probably didn't care reading!

Islam is submitting to Allah through obedience, and desisting from idolatory/associating partners to him in worship.

As-salam - The source of peace is one of the names of Allah, so YES islam is a religion of peace

Prophet Muhammad is a messenger of Allah, has no share in divinity, he is human - but a prophet and messenger of Allah. His sayings and actions are guided by Allah.

Just like how Jesus is a messenger of Allah, has no share in divinity, he is human. His sayings and actions are guided by Allah. Matthew 21:11, Luke 7:16, John 4:19, Luke 4:24, Mark 6:15, Luke 24:19, John 7:40, Matthew 26:39, Matthew 26:42, Qur'an 5:75, Qur'an 4:171, Qur'an 61:6 etc.

Islam meaans submission subjugation servitude of slave and master relationship to Allah and Muhammed decisions .



Jesus is Divine in every angle and presentation, the bible verse you quoted are good but can we read the whole chapter to see his divinity, shall we?


Everything about the Quran is wrong , all claims have been found out to he lies and layers of lies

BlackfireX:
Islam meaans submission subjugation servitude of slave and master relationship to Allah and Muhammed decisions .



Jesus is Divine in every angle and presentation, the bible verse you quoted are good but can we read the whole chapter to see his divinity, shall we?


Everything about the Quran is wrong , all claims have been found out to he lies and layers of lies

Which jesus is divine? Not the one in the bible apparently.
Jesus wey cry for cross "God, God, do not forsake me!"
Abi the one wey say "God, make this cup pass me" - I don't want to die!

Divine ke!

Which Bible is correct?
The one with seventy something books abi the one with eighty something?

Who was jesus praying to? Definitely not himself!

These are questions christians have no answers for snd would never have answers to.

The Bible is surely not the word of God - though there are remnants of the words in it.
40+ authors of the bible, 100s of contradictions.

Christianity is also definitely not what Jesus taught.

Christianity is a false religion by Paul the Apostle......I REST MY CASE

muslim100:

Which jesus is divine? Not the one in the bible apparently.
Jesus wey cry for cross "God, God, do not forsake me!"
Abi the one wey say "God, make this cup pass me" - I don't want to die!

Divine ke!

Which Bible is correct?
The one with seventy something books abi the one with eighty something?

Who was jesus praying to? Definitely not himself!

These are questions christians have no answers for snd would never have answers to.

The Bible is surely not the word of God - though there are remnants of the words in it.
40+ authors of the bible, 100s of contradictions.

Christianity is also definitely not what Jesus taught.

Christianity is a false religion by Paul the Apostle......I REST MY CASE

please are this your wildest reasons or you want to add more....before i can answer this simple questions...please add more before i start replying


and i pray Ruh al - Qudus to reveal Yasua Al massih to you.

muslim100:
I didn't care to answer because it is not just a yes or no.

In Arabic there are two types of nouns -
1. Rigid - words without root
2. Derived - words with root

Derived words are words that have their origin from other another words - especially verbs, some have undebatable origins while there is difference of opinion anong Arabic Linguists regarding many Arabic words.
There are majorly two schools of thought regarding Arabic grammar - Basrah and Khufa (these are names ancient cities).

Islam
Even among scholars there is no consensus on the root of Islam - becauae the root of PEACE & SUBMISSION are both - س، ل، م. Though the majority - what I incline to is that Islam is derived from the roots of submission.

You might say - Scholars did this (Islam is derived from peace) to make Islam look good, yet you are blatantly wrong, and here is the reason.

Even the most used words in Arabic have different roots, and YES - a word can have two roots.

Example of words with different opinions regarding their origin
1. Allah - Used by all Arabs to refer to God regardless of their religion.
Some scholars say it is rigid some say it os derived from - ء، ل، ه.

2. Name/Noun - pronounced ISMUN: There is also a difference of opinion while some say it is derived from sumuww, some say it is wasmu

Many every day words have these difference of opinion among scholars.

If a Muslim says Islam is derived from both PEACE and SUBMISSION is he wrong? No!

You can take this anywhere, ask any AI model to expand for you.

Some answers are beyond YES or NO.

So Islam means submission to the will of Allah with obedience, going far away from Idolatory, and obeying the prophet as he was sent by Allah.

Islam means submission subjugation servitude of slave and master relationship to Allah and Muhammed decisions.


Very simple and apt

BlackfireX:
please are this your wildest reasons or you want to add more....before i can answer this simple questions...please add more before i start replying


and i pray Ruh al - Qudus to reveal Yasua Al massih to you.

I don't need to add more, these are enough to win any Christian in a debate. No Christian has/can answer these questions. Adding more questions is adding pepper to an open wound.
You can start answering

muslim100:
I don't need to add more, these are enough to win any Christian in a debate. No Christian has/can answer these questions. Adding more questions is adding pepper to an open wound.
You can start answering

Why are you scared?

Calm down you ask questions you will receive the reply accordingly. Like I said all this are simple questions which infaact exposes your knowledge of the bible and how your imam dawah has blinded your eyes

So I ask again , do you want to add another questions because if you add more questions when I start answering that means you are not sincere....and please don't run

So now ask the questions again habibi

BlackfireX:
Why are you scared?

Calm down you ask questions you will receive the reply accordingly. Like I said all this are simple questions which infaact exposes your knowledge of the bible and how your imam dawah has blinded your eyes

So I ask again , do you want to add another questions because if you add more questions when I start answering that means you are not sincere....and please don't run

So now ask the questions again habibi

Scared keh!

You know what I would love? A debate via zoom/google meet.

There we will know who is scared or brain washed. A structured debate maybe 1hour+ in total, no curses or foul talks - a civil conversation. 10 mins for each party to present their cases, 10 mins for the other party to answer - 40 mins exhausted.

Then 2 mins question and 3 mins answer - 3 questions for each person alternately. This sums upto 30 mins.

1hour 10mins in total.

Or any format you want and any topic of your choice.

muslim100:
Scared keh!

You know what I would love? A debate via zoom/google meet.

There we will know who is scared or brain washed. A structured debate maybe 1hour+ in total, no curses or foul talks - a civil conversation. 10 mins for each party to present their cases, 10 mins for the other party to answer - 40 mins exhausted.

Then 2 mins question and 3 mins answer - 3 questions for each person alternately. This sums upto 30 mins.

1hour 10mins in total.

Or any format you want and any topic of your choice.

That will be nice.
I am all in


But I was thinking of answering you here.

What you suggest is also good

Please don't run 🏃

Something huge is brewing in this thread. Make I guide abeg

BlackfireX:
That will be nice.
I am all in


But I was thinking of answering you here.

What you suggest is also good

Please don't run 🏃

You can choose a date, next weekend would be nice.

BlackfireX:
That will be nice.
I am all in

But I was thinking of answering you here.

What you suggest is also good

Please don't run 🏃

You have the choice of bringing your list topics, lets choose one or two. I also have topics if you insist.

I personally don't fancy keyboard debates because both parties likely won't read everything from their counterparts due to the length.

muslim100:
You have the choice of bringing your list topics, lets choose one or two. I also have topics if you insist.

I personally don't fancy keyboard debates because both parties likely won't read everything from their counterparts due to the length.

But I can give you the answer right here.

If you want what you proposed I accept

BlackfireX:
But I can give you the answer right here.

If you want what you proposed I accept

I prefer my proposal

muslim100:
I prefer my proposal

I am not your Dhimi .


I can give you response here

But you suggested online , I said ok though I still prefer giving the response to a simple questions from you on NL


But saying you prefer your proposal...NAH .... I AM NOT YOUR DHIMI

BlackfireX:
I am not your Dhimi .


I can give you response here

But you suggested online , I said ok though I still prefer giving the response to a simple questions from you on NL


But saying you prefer your proposal...NAH .... I AM NOT YOUR DHIMI

Afraid? Running?
I have never ran from a debate, and I can swear by Allah that atleast 4 Christians have ran away from me.....if you want to add to this number you are free.

Maybe you skipped the part I said personally oral conversation is better, many people skip infos while reading long writeups.

A perfect example is that you didn't care to read just 4 - 5 lines of my reply, imagine long epistles in the name of 'answer'.

Listening is more engaging and more information is digested - personally!

Also, the dhimmi word doesn't anger me as it is part of Islam.

BlackfireX:
But I can give you the answer right here.

If you want what you proposed I accept

I just answered saying "I prefer my proposal" because you literally said you accept if I insist.

All of a sudden "I AM NOT YOUR DHIMMI".

I don't think it is hard to spot who is wrong here.

muslim100:
Afraid? Running?
I have never ran from a debate, and I can swear by Allah that atleast 4 Christians have ran away from me.....if you want to add to this number you are free.

Maybe you skipped the part I said personally oral conversation is better, many people skip infos while reading long writeups.

A perfect example is that you didn't care to read just 4 - 5 lines of my reply, imagine long epistles in the name of 'answer'.

Listening is more engaging and more information is digested - personally!

Also, the dhimmi word doesn't anger me as it is part of Islam.

i guess you didnt read the part where it is i rhat will be answering your simple questions.

oh so if i reply you wont read.


running? i guess you are the one

giving me order 'i INSIST on my proposal"

Hey like i said i am not your dhimi or an abdul


i can give you your answers here .

BlackfireX:
i guess you didnt read the part where it is i rhat will be answering your simple questions.

oh so if i reply you wont read.


running? i guess you are the one

giving me order 'i INSIST on my proposal"

Hey like i said i am not your dhimi or an abdul


i can give you your answers here .

Why resolve to lying,
How does my words in quotes "I prefer" translate to "I insist"?

My questions are not simple and I also expect questions from you, zoom/meet/clubhouse are better options for these kind of conversations.

It is not like I will be at advantage on any of these platforms, so I don't get why you are making it look like I am taking advantage of you.

In addition, a dhimmi is a christian/jew/other that lives in an Islamic state that practices the Shari'ah. He is totally under the protection of the state in every circumstance including wars, they are not allowed to fight. They pay jizyah - a tax stipulated by the state (they don't pay the muslim zakkah) to be protected. A dhimmi is free to worship his god - with public restrictions, work, own property, run shops, hospitals, finance, science, legal protection. The jizyah is cut based on the dhimmis economic status.

If this sounds unfair, then I guess there is no fair system anywhere in the world - not the democratic system used worldwide that extorts citizens.

Also, the usual use of "ABDUL" as a slur.
Abd means slave or servant. Arab muslims and Christians alike use Abdul-*** as names of subservience to God. A Christian answers Abdul-Masih (servant of jesus), just like a muslim bears Abdullah (servant of Allah). This is a show of ignorance, just like some ignoramuses say "Allah is a moon god" while the word Allah is literally found in the Arabic Bible in its thousands.

muslim100:
Why resolve to lying,
How does my words in quotes "I prefer" translate to "I insist"?

My questions are not simple and I also expect questions from you, zoom/meet/clubhouse are better options for these kind of conversations.

It is not like I will be at advantage on any of these platforms, so I don't get why you are making it look like I am taking advantage of you.

In addition, a dhimmi is a christian/jew/other that lives in an Islamic state that practices the Shari'ah. He is totally under the protection of the state in every circumstance including wars, they are not allowed to fight. They pay jizyah - a tax stipulated by the state (they don't pay the muslim zakkah) to be protected. A dhimmi is free to worship his god - with public restrictions, work, own property, run shops, hospitals, finance, science, legal protection. The jizyah is cut based on the dhimmis economic status.

If this sounds unfair, then I guess there is no fair system anywhere in the world - not the democratic system used worldwide that extorts
citizens.

Also, the usual use of "ABDUL" as a slur.
Abd means slave or servant. Arab muslims and Christians alike use Abdul-*** as names of subservience to God. A Christian answers Abdul-Masih (servant of jesus), just like a muslim bears Abdullah (servant of Allah). This is a show of ignorance, just like some ignoramuses say "Allah is a moon god" while the word Allah is literally found in the Arabic Bible in its thousands.

No need I ask you questions for now.

Ask your question one by one and I will reply one after the other....and yes those questions are simple like ice cream.

Tell me a Christian community that is still existing after Muslims invaded there land? Jizya so I pay you money after kidnapping my community is that not like bandits( see don't let's crack open the foul odour of islam) see the way you painted the dhimi story beautifully do I look like unintelligent to you.


All the land occupied by Muslims today was through jihad.

Imagine I come to your house by invading it and holding you hostage telling you until you pay some amount you will be free to briefly move around.

We are not slaves do you understand


Ask your questions Eru and let me answer