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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 10:24am On Dec 03, 2025
Goke7:
The thing wey immigrants come find for uk na same thing those British citizens sef Dey find for other countries.



Dem suppose deny them entry or visas too 😂
Or dash them 15 years to PR
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 10:25am On Dec 03, 2025
Viruses:
The time to act is when the shadow of desecration falls upon a community that is not your own, not when the storm of chaos finally breaks down your door.

E no concern us, na north dem de, Boko haram don dey concern everybody small small.

The importance of proactive intervention and solidarity cannot be overemphasized.
Unfortunately, its likely too late

lipsrsealed
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 10:29am On Dec 03, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
Its obvious they are still stuck in the colonialist mindset that the world should serve them

Its gonna be a painful adjustment back to reality for these lot
This is exactly what I meant when I said several moons ago that they need to snap back to reality and get rid of their "owo mi da" mentality like agberos in Lagos or they will never reap the benefits of legal immigration. They seem set on their extortion mentality and do not want to change with the times, unsurprising though as they can be extremely traditional and outrightly impervious to change

The world has moved past them but they do not want to face reality. Imagine Keir Stammer going on air to say China is a threat to the UK when China has surpassed them in arguably every single metric known to man.

Very delusional people sometimes who cant smell the coffee.

grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 10:34am On Dec 03, 2025
HustlaOfLagos:
This is exactly what I meant when I said several moons ago that they need to snap back to reality and get rid of their "owo mi da" mentality like agberos in Lagos or they will never reap the benefits of legal immigration. They seem set on their extortion mentality and do not want to change with the times, unsurprising though as they can be extremely traditional and outrightly impervious to change

The world has moved past them but they do not want to face reality. Imagine Keir Stammer going on air to say China is a threat to the UK when China has surpassed them in arguably every single metric known to man.

Very delusional people sometimes who cant smell the coffee.

grin
The bolded is debatable

What is NOT debatable is that the UK has been lagging
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 10:59am On Dec 03, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
The bolded is debatable

What is NOT debatable is that the UK has been lagging
We can go example for example and start with Tech

Show me 5 UK EV makers, mobile phone + drone makers and mention a cloud provider that is based in the UK.

Do not try to explain, just list without using Google or ChatGPT

grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 11:25am On Dec 03, 2025
HustlaOfLagos:
This is exactly what I meant when I said several moons ago that they need to snap back to reality and get rid of their "owo mi da" mentality like agberos in Lagos or they will never reap the benefits of legal immigration. They seem set on their extortion mentality and do not want to change with the times, unsurprising though as they can be extremely traditional and outrightly impervious to change

The world has moved past them but they do not want to face reality. Imagine Keir Stammer going on air to say China is a threat to the UK when China has surpassed them in arguably every single metric known to man.

Very delusional people sometimes who cant smell the coffee.

grin
😂 e don clear for your eye say no be only Lagos agbero dey ba? difference be say the ones for Lagos never digitise fully their mode of operations!
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 2:06pm On Dec 03, 2025
Goke7:
😂 e don clear for your eye say no be only Lagos agbero dey ba? difference be say the ones for Lagos never digitise fully their mode of operations!
On today's episode of "blame an immigrant"

https://x.com/RupertLowe10/status/1995939133164761467?s=20
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 2:21pm On Dec 03, 2025
Goke7:
😂 e don clear for your eye say no be only Lagos agbero dey ba? difference be say the ones for Lagos never digitise fully their mode of operations!
LOL e don clear since

wink
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 2:42pm On Dec 03, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
On today's episode of "blame an immigrant"

https://x.com/RupertLowe10/status/1995939133164761467?s=20[/quote]for road congestion again grin Very soon, they will blame immigrants for congestion at restaurants, just let them continue to play with poverty
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 5:30pm On Dec 03, 2025
Goke7:
The problem is that some of our folks just want to force themselves to be accepted because we are naturally emotional and not transactional like westerners. The other day I saw a content creator intelligently analysing the benefits of having a passport from a western nation and how it opens us so many trans border business opportunities telling folks that’s how they should be thinking. If people can have this shift in their mindset then you don’t bloody care what the natives think or how they see you. Having that second passport is for your own personal ambitions and goals and not to become an ethno national or whatever is called. The people who sold you the passport are simply doing business with you and their expectations is that you think that way too.
True.. Going around expecting random folks to like/accept you before you before you can flourish puts a subconscious bar on what one can achieve.

I shake my head when I hear statements like 'what would the locals think?'
There'd always be crackheads posting what they like on social media. The world is bigger than that. What's worse is that most of the people making such posts would contribute much less to the society than the average migrant.

Provided my safety isn't at stake, I couldn't care less what someone else thinks of me - it's their problem. If directly they cross certain lines e.g racial abuse, I take it up - western societies provide reasonable recourse for this.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 5:48pm On Dec 03, 2025
jedisco:
Is this supposed to be a threat? The stuff you spew.

Let me ask - exposed on what? Exposed that when the UK badly needed skilled labour I offered my services? Exposed that I gave over half a decade of my life in service of the British populace? Exposed that I was a significant net contributor by a very wide margin throughout my stay? Exposed that I decided to invest in Britain rather that take that to competing nations? Exposed that I continued the Lords work elsewhere? Exposed on what exactly?

Whether it's by nature or nurture, the more you type, the more it becomes obvious that we do not think alike. I can only thank God for wiring my brain differently from yours. Can't imagine what it feels like to see the world through your lens.

I'm sure if I came here calling myself 'third worlder', chorusing how something is wrong with the black man or narrating how I lower my gaze when being spoken to, you'd have called me a visionary.
Let’s get this straight being a net contributor doesn’t put you above anyone ok, everyone contributes to the pot in different ways. So get off the high horse and touch some grass.

Not everyone measures their life in houses bought or cars offered, and not everyone feels the need to parade their gains publicly like you constantly attempt to force it down our throats. You talk like people should be wowed about your gain. Talk about I bought a house. Oh I was offered 300k car as I arrived. Guess what most don’t care.

If that Dr Pepple guy was not dragged , he might probably be on x bragging about buying a house two weeks after landing in the CA . That ‘I’m better than the next neighbour mindset is exactly why some people look down on care workers, call others riff raff, or shame their career. Owing to them arriving when things were easier or had better information beforehand.

Keep the petite bourgeois performance to your family and your inner circle. And no carry am enter CA. I trust those ones dem go drag you. Your target audience isn’t here.

I will continue to say if you like bag phd, surgeon the western world will continuously see you from a reflection of your home country/ skin. Until we develop our ancestral home only then we can be free. ILR oo citizenship oo, West Indian ooo push comes to shove they will summarise us all in one shopping cart. And you need to get that global citizen ideology out your head there is nothing like that and we all know where we came from.

If you still don’t understand what I mean by you will be exposed then google “petite bourgeoisie” it perfectly describes you.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by willyede(m): 6:53pm On Dec 03, 2025
lavida001:
Let’s get this straight being a net contributor doesn’t put you above anyone ok, everyone contributes to the pot in different ways. So get off the high horse and touch some grass.

Not everyone measures their life in houses bought or cars offered, and not everyone feels the need to parade their gains publicly like you constantly attempt to force it down our throats. You talk like people should be wowed about your gain. Talk about I bought a house. Oh I was offered 300k car as I arrived. Guess what most don’t care.

If that Dr Pepple guy was not dragged , he might probably be on x bragging about buying a house two weeks after landing in the CA . That ‘I’m better than the next neighbour mindset is exactly why some people look down on care workers, call others riff raff, or shame their career. Owing to them arriving when things were easier or had better information beforehand.

Keep the petite bourgeois performance to your family and your inner circle. And no carry am enter CA. I trust those ones dem go drag you. Your target audience isn’t here.

I will continue to say if you like bag phd, surgeon the western world will continuously see you from a reflection of your home country/ skin. Until we develop our ancestral home only then we can be free. ILR oo citizenship oo, West Indian ooo push comes to shove they will summarise us all in one shopping cart. And you need to get that global citizen ideology out your head there is nothing like that and we all know where we came from.

If you still don’t understand what I mean by you will be exposed then google “petite bourgeoisie” it perfectly describes you.
I really do not know why the moderator is allowing this to go for too long. why is this dude always derailing this thread and also @lavida001 has just violated Rule 2 of the guidelines here :

Rule 2: Deliberate insults, bullying, and provocation directed at a specific member (e.g., mocking their achievements, attitude, and mindset with phrases like "get off the high horse and touch some grass," "force it down our throats," and labelling them "petite bourgeoisie"wink.

So the moderator can continue to let this keep going on.....cos i don't understand how this write up helps Nigerian in the uk
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Jamesclooney: 7:01pm On Dec 03, 2025
jedisco:
Is this supposed to be a threat? The stuff you spew.

Let me ask - exposed on what? Exposed that when the UK badly needed skilled labour I offered my services? Exposed that I gave over half a decade of my life in service of the British populace? Exposed that I was a significant net contributor by a very wide margin throughout my stay? Exposed that I decided to invest in Britain rather that take that to competing nations? Exposed that I continued the Lords work elsewhere? Exposed on what exactly?

Whether it's by nature or nurture, the more you type, the more it becomes obvious that we do not think alike. I can only thank God for wiring my brain differently from yours. Can't imagine what it feels like to see the world through your lens.

I'm sure if I came here calling myself 'third worlder', chorusing how something is wrong with the black man or narrating how I lower my gaze when being spoken to, you'd have called me a visionary.
Just out of curiosity, why didn’t you offer your homeland - Nigeria - these amazing contributions? Why bless UK and Canada with your gift?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 7:03pm On Dec 03, 2025
willyede:
I really do not know why the moderator is allowing this to go for too long. why is this dude always derailing this thread and also @lavida001 has just violated Rule 2 of the guidelines here :

Rule 2: Deliberate insults, bullying, and provocation directed at a specific member (e.g., mocking their achievements, attitude, and mindset with phrases like "get off the high horse and touch some grass," "force it down our throats," and labelling them "petite bourgeoisie"wink.

So the moderator can continue to let this keep going on.....cos i don't understand how this write up helps Nigerian in the uk
If Get off high horse is an abuse and touch grass then I don’t know what to say to you.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by luqken: 7:08pm On Dec 03, 2025
oluwaleokey:
I no understand what's going on here, una write big big English grammar and vocabularies take confuse man pikin... wetin happen eh? No be survival all of us dey again?

To be honest, i hate it with passion when some set of people feels that they deserve the good life more than any group or category. Just because you feel you are more opportune than others perhaps an excellent academician or from a rich background hence you are entitled to good life by default.

What's your definition of riff raffs? In this case every immigrant is a riff raff irrespective of the avenue or type of visa you migrated with. You bagged first class with 100% scholarship does not and will never translate to entitlement for a good life in another man's country infact to be fair, excellent and outstanding scholars are the most needed back home, you have no reason to migrate in the first place. You should be at the front lines utilising your expertise in the country and not the other way round. Riff raff indeed?

Like one claimed, if truly the COS immigrants or the poorly assessed MSc student immigrants are tagged riff raff then we all are riff raff in another man's country and this includes if it was your 3rd generational parents that migrated abroad, it simply means they, including you are products of "riff raff-lisation"
We can only say there are different levels of riff raffs

I hate it when people write out of jealousy or hatred, not out of concern...
Some of the oldies are questioning why are visas being given out at this rate? Coz only you wants to be called ndi obodo oyibo maybe the average family member would contest with you financially or will no longer depend on you as the mini god perhaps would find out that you are also surviving in the system, reason you want the riff raffs to remian back home? Dey play
that you had first sight or were opportuned doesn't not make others stupid. I can tell you for free that whoever that completely paid for his/her MSc studies just to migrate with his dependants should be classified above average citizens if you understand the financial obligation. People in their millions cannot afford it or will kill to have the same opportunity. (Person way get degree, get money to pay join don turn riff raff - nothing way Musa no go hear for gate)
Do you know the population of illiterate, poor and unemployed people back home? Do you know the figures?

This not to say there are no bad elements that are painting our images bad besides it is not only NIUK, riff raffs has always been in existence from time immemorial, by this i mean, our focus should be on a crime free activities not challenging the process of which ones visa was granted. Is it your country? Are you wiser than them? If you are, then fix your home country.

They needed help, created an opportunity, people who could afford it, jumped on it and they have been working tireletirelessly, contributing to the growth of the economy, paying taxes etc
Can you fill those spaces? You don't want them abi you blaming the system for allowing them.
God bless every hardworking immigrants anywhere in the world
YOU ARE NOT FOOLISH SIR!
YOU ARE NOT A RIFF RAFF SIR!

Please stay out of crime and make us proud by representing us well...
To add to your brilliant and succinct points,most of the COS frauds were committed by these earlier generations milking the so called Riff Raffs of hundreds of thousands of pounds. It's convenient for them to come back and attack these victims who are now desperate for survival with no hope.
What he's doing is pure classism at worst
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Cyberknight: 7:10pm On Dec 03, 2025
HustlaOfLagos:
We can go example for example and start with Tech

Show me 5 UK EV makers, mobile phone + drone makers and mention a cloud provider that is based in the UK.

grin
The last is interesting - the Europeans are belatedly waking up to the fact that America is at best a frenemy, while the UK blithely continues to throw terabytes of data onto servers nominally based in the EEA, but which are operated by US entities fully subject to the CLOUD Act (which means that they're required to turn over data to the US law enforcement when required). At the moment, the UK is happily welcoming "investment" in the shape of data centres which are fundamentally no different from extractive industries such as coal mining. However, Lidl's started a side hustle in cloud computing, and this might spur Tesco or Sainsbury's or some corner shop somewhere to do something similar.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 7:39pm On Dec 03, 2025
luqken:
To add to your brilliant and succinct points,most of the COS frauds were committed by these earlier generations milking the so called Riff Raffs of hundreds of thousands of pounds. It's convenient for them to come back and attack these victims who are now desperate for survival with no hope.
What he's doing is pure classism at worst
😂 another angle. Set awon old takers! Dem do people strong things sha!

I remember that Doctor that told that undercover agent who masqueraded as a recruiter and promised to make her millionaire in pounds 😂 omo no be small thing o
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 8:00pm On Dec 03, 2025
Jamesclooney:
Just out of curiosity, why didn’t you offer your homeland - Nigeria - these amazing contributions? Why bless UK and Canada with your gift?
I didn't exactly fall into UK from the sky you know?

My contributions to the UK hasn't and was never going to solve all the nations problems with the NHS, housing e.t.c. The presence of ongoing problems doesn't negate the need for individuals to do their part. I do my part and move on - unapologetically seeking the best for myself.

For Nigeria, I'm particularly indebted to her. I did and continue to do my part and hope I could do more. Regarding 'giftings', every human is gifted. Is for each to make use of that with the resources they have in reach. This is something I'm grateful to the UK for- the nation gave me resorces and opportunities.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 8:08pm On Dec 03, 2025
lavida001:
Let’s get this straight being a net contributor doesn’t put you above anyone ok, everyone contributes to the pot in different ways. So get off the high horse and touch some grass.

Not everyone measures their life in houses bought or cars offered, and not everyone feels the need to parade their gains publicly like you constantly attempt to force it down our throats. You talk like people should be wowed about your gain. Talk about I bought a house. Oh I was offered 300k car as I arrived. Guess what most don’t care.

If that Dr Pepple guy was not dragged , he might probably be on x bragging about buying a house two weeks after landing in the CA . That ‘I’m better than the next neighbour mindset is exactly why some people look down on care workers, call others riff raff, or shame their career. Owing to them arriving when things were easier or had better information beforehand.

Keep the petite bourgeois performance to your family and your inner circle. And no carry am enter CA. I trust those ones dem go drag you. Your target audience isn’t here.

I will continue to say if you like bag phd, surgeon the western world will continuously see you from a reflection of your home country/ skin. Until we develop our ancestral home only then we can be free. ILR oo citizenship oo, West Indian ooo push comes to shove they will summarise us all in one shopping cart. And you need to get that global citizen ideology out your head there is nothing like that and we all know where we came from.

If you still don’t understand what I mean by you will be exposed then google “petite bourgeoisie” it perfectly describes you.
I'd end this and let you run along. You've had enough of my mental bandwidth for today. Whenever you start building your ancestral land, let me know.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 8:29pm On Dec 03, 2025
@jedisco and @lavida001 I humbly appeal for a ceasefire. While I understand your genuine and valid concerns please 🙏 let go of the personal squabbles. The beauty of this thread is in our diverse views but let’s not let it become too personal cos no matter how hurtful we are all Nigerians which has brought us together into this thread in the first place. No matter the difference of opinions I respect you both. Thanks
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 9:34pm On Dec 03, 2025
jedisco:
I'd end this and let you run along. You've had enough of my mental bandwidth for today. Whenever you start building your ancestral land, let me know.
jog on
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 12:04am On Dec 04, 2025
Cyberknight:
However, Lidl's started a side hustle in cloud computing, and this might spur Tesco or Sainsbury's or some corner shop somewhere to do something similar.
Serious countries don treat cloud as a side hustle

The country is behind and stifles growth and innovation

wink
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by brine(m): 6:37am On Dec 04, 2025
Jamesclooney:
Just out of curiosity, why didn’t you offer your homeland - Nigeria - these amazing contributions? Why bless UK and Canada with your gift?
Smh, this didn’t even come across as a real question, more like a passive aggressive dig. Of everything I’ve seen in this section this week, this one is the most annoying for me. Such a silly thing to ask in that context.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Jamesclooney: 7:52am On Dec 04, 2025
jedisco:
I didn't exactly fall into UK from the sky you know?

My contributions to the UK hasn't and was never going to solve all the nations problems with the NHS, housing e.t.c. The presence of ongoing problems doesn't negate the need for individuals to do their part. I do my part and move on - unapologetically seeking the best for myself.

For Nigeria, I'm particularly indebted to her. I did and continue to do my part and hope I could do more. Regarding 'giftings', every human is gifted. Is for each to make use of that with the resources they have in reach. This is something I'm grateful to the UK for- the nation gave me resorces and opportunities.
You’re missing my point. In the previous post you kept going on and on about how you’ve contributed to UK more than others etc. Almost like you were doing the UK a favour…and my question was why did you decide to help UK? Why not help Cameroon or Zambia or Lithuania?

We all know the answer why…exchange of value. You had a skill and they offered you a job/immigration pathway. Had it been there was no opportunity, you’d have sat down in country of origin and forcefully contributed especially in the medical field where your skills are desperately needed.

So spare us with the whole, you’ve contributed so much blah blah blah. It was an exchange. Nobody forced you into it. Now the gig is up for other Nigerians/would be immigrants coming behind us…jungle go soon mature.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by emmaodet: 8:20am On Dec 04, 2025
Goodenoch:
1. Did you actually watch/listen to that program beyond the headline? Because if it is this one, you'll have seen that the vast majority of the clients those Kenyan writers work for are actually foreigners, many from the UK, and this has been the case for decades so it has nothing to do with your 'low quality recent migrants.' Unless it's another program/report, anyway, in which case can you kindly share it?

https://theworld.org/stories/2020/01/24/kenya-large-market-1-billion-global-contract-cheating-industry
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-58465189
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3ct1xzx

2. Has it ever crossed your mind that how you write and engage with people depicts very clearly that you are a prime example of the riff-raff you speak of so much?

Small thing and you're using slurs and playground insults, accusing people of being unintelligent and whatnot. I'm sure your response will be that you are merely frank, direct etc a la Badenough but I assure you it is possible to be all those things without sounding like you're arguing at a beer parlor.

I know you claim to work at a university so I'd suggest you show your posts like this last one to someone educated there and ask whether they think you are a riff-raff based on how you sound. I'm not a gambling man but that's one bet I would make an exception for.
grin grin grin

Omohh...too much gbas-gbos on this thread.
I am really enjoying the dramas
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(mod): 8:24am On Dec 04, 2025
willyede:
I really do not know why the moderator is allowing this to go for too long. why is this dude always derailing this thread and also @lavida001 has just violated Rule 2 of the guidelines here :

Rule 2: Deliberate insults, bullying, and provocation directed at a specific member (e.g., mocking their achievements, attitude, and mindset with phrases like "get off the high horse and touch some grass," "force it down our throats," and labelling them "petite bourgeoisie"wink.

So the moderator can continue to let this keep going on.....cos i don't understand how this write up helps Nigerian in the uk
That is not an insult.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by AgentXxx(m): 9:46am On Dec 04, 2025
There is someone doing similar for those in Uk even though it hasn’t really gain traction. His name is Mc Omiomio and the podcast is called “Diary Of A Nigeria In Uk (DOANIUK)…
HustlaOfLagos:
Our people also say "Until the Lion learns to write, every story will glorify the hunter"

AriseTV should also arise and tell stories of Westerners outsourcing their work to Nigerians and then they will also be branded same. At least when locals saw that foreigners were taking their jobs, they also put it out there.

We can only speak for ourselves and what we have observed in interactions with other Nigerians, from the workplace to classrooms etc. and while there are lots of hardworking ones, there are quite a lot of "riff raffs" who are unsurprisingly the loudest.

For example, instead of creating tik tok videos about bypassing systems, COS scams etc, further exacerbating our already negative stereotype, our creators can instead invite people who are successful to talk about their journey abroad and give some insight like Teju Babyface is doing for the US community.

Little drops of water yunno wink
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 11:16am On Dec 04, 2025
AgentXxx:
There is someone doing similar for those in Uk even though it hasn’t really gain traction. His name is Mc Omiomio and the podcast is called “Diary Of A Nigeria In Uk (DOANIUK)…
Good stuff

We need more of that smiley
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 1:43pm On Dec 04, 2025
HustlaOfLagos:
The world has moved past them but they do not want to face reality. Imagine Keir Stammer going on air to say China is a threat to the UK when China has surpassed them in arguably every single metric known to man.

Very delusional people sometimes who cant smell the coffee.

grin
Have a little mercy biko 🤣

Starmer was speaking in the context of China being a security threat e.g. spying etc . It's been a concern for many years and is increasing as China appears to be spreading its tentacles into more areas such as universities. Main reason why the government has delayed its approval on the China super embassy in London.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/dec/02/uk-government-delays-china-super-embassy-january

Apparently the threat is so serious that senior MoD personnel have been advised not to have sensitive discussions in Chinese electric vehicles cos they don't know who's listening...🙉

As highly as we think of ourselves, it is painfully obvious that we are not in the same league as China in manufacturing and technology - they are literally a powerhouse. In fact, no other country comes close to China except perhaps America.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 2:43pm On Dec 04, 2025
Zahra29:
Have a little mercy biko 🤣

Starmer was speaking in the context of China being a security threat e.g. spying etc . It's been a concern for many years and is increasing as China appears to be spreading its tentacles into more areas such as universities. Main reason why the government has delayed its approval on the China super embassy in London.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/dec/02/uk-government-delays-china-super-embassy-january

Apparently the threat is so serious that senior MoD personnel have been advised not to have sensitive discussions in Chinese electric vehicles cos they don't know who's listening...🙉

As highly as we think of ourselves, it is painfully obvious that we are not in the same league as China in manufacturing and technology - they are literally a powerhouse. In fact, no other country comes close to China except perhaps America.
Why do you always hear of China spying / hacking / stealing trade secrets and never the other way round? Some of us are not stupid yunno? The same UK that had nothing to trade back in the day and turned into drug dealers and almost ruined China completely? Na so US / UK sef no dey do espionage? undecided

Threat is serious that MOD personnel are being told to what? The MOD personnel that are being paid £35K for Cybersec roles cheesy? At the end of the day, It comes back to the same question -->
Where are UK EVs and why cant the UK compete on any level? At least f they had UK made EVs, maybe they wont have to worry about eavesdropping in Chinese made EVs.. Or is it the immigrants causing this one also?
Remember when I said the UK has to let go of its 1847 Owo Mi Da mentality and encourage its immigrants instead of stifling their growth at every given opportunity?

This is one of the reasons why the current AI race is Chinese Americans vs Chinese folks. One country encourages immigrants that comes to its shores with unlimited opportunities and funding while another wants immigrants to wait 15 years while paying thousands before smelling settlement.
Se na person wey dey think of COS and 15 year route wan help una compete with China? You see how everything eventually connects?

Again, China is not a threat to UK or its growth in any way or form and only the US can make claims like this as they have a lot more to protect. On the other hand, America also have ceded many things to China and the whole world will have to come to terms with China being Number 1 in the not so distant future
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29:
HustlaOfLagos:
Why do you always hear of China spying / hacking / stealing trade secrets and never the other way round? Some of us are not stupid yunno? The same UK that had nothing to trade back in the day and turned into drug dealers and almost ruined China completely? Na so US / UK sef no dey do espionage? undecided

Threat is serious that MOD personnel are being told to what? The MOD personnel that are being paid £35K for Cybersec roles cheesy? At the end of the day, It comes back to the same question -->
Where are UK EVs and why cant the UK compete on any level? At least f they had UK made EVs, maybe they wont have to worry about eavesdropping in Chinese made EVs.. Or is it the immigrants causing this one also?
Remember when I said the UK has to let go of its 1847 Owo Mi Da mentality and encourage its immigrants instead of stifling their growth at every given opportunity?

This is one of the reasons why the current AI race is Chinese Americans vs Chinese folks. One country encourages immigrants that comes to its shores with unlimited opportunities and funding while another wants immigrants to wait 15 years while paying thousands before smelling settlement.
Se na person wey dey think of COS and 15 year route wan help una compete with China? You see how everything eventually connects?

Again, China is not a threat to UK or its growth in any way or form and only the US can make claims like this as they have a lot more to protect. On the other hand, America also have ceded many things to China and the whole world will have to come to terms with China being Number 1 in the not so distant future
1. It is also mentioned that the UK has its own spying agenda with China. Doesn't mean that the UK shouldn't move to protect its interests/assets, same as China and other sensible countries are doing.

2. Yes the "threat" is real, and it has been reported that senior MoD personnel have been advised to take precautions including being careful when having sensitive discussions in govt issued Chinese vehicles. It is irrelevant what they are paid. However if they are of a high enough grade to be privy to highly sensitive information and have access to a government car, then I highly doubt they are being paid entry level salaries. You really think a senior/career civil servant is on £35k?

See below for security concerns from Danish authorities about remotely operated "kill switches" in Chinese electric buses. Its not just a UK issue. Perhaps your response to Denmark is "use Denmark made buses only " or "more immigration please" undecided

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/05/danish-authorities-in-rush-to-close-security-loophole-in-chinese-electric-buses

2.1. On the subject of threats/spying you do realise that it extends beyond EV vehicles, AI dominance etc. For example there are underlying diplomatic frictions with China - the BNO visa holders issue is one example - where China has been accused of surveillance and intimidating behaviour against some Hong Kongers who have sought refuge in the UK.
We don't need to wait for another Salisbury poisoning incident before we become alive to the threat posed by certain foreign states.

3. As I've already stated, no other country can currently compete with China in manufacturing and technology, save for America who is increasingly falling a distant second. China is already No 1 in many areas.

Even countries with more liberal immigration policies such as Canada, Germany? and apparently Australia, are also WAY behind China - so your above argument is a non sequitur.

And for that matter, China itself has one of the most restrictive immigration policies in spite of its falling birth rate. Not everything is down to immigration.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Taal17: 3:21pm On Dec 04, 2025
Raalsalghul:
True though, we dey cap nonsense sometimes that's why I don't blame Oga Rodgers with him 'riff raff' talk.

See the below I saw recently in Facebook subtly encouraging people to apply for Asylum.
This FB poster is dumb
Isn't it 20 or 30 yrs for ILR asylumees so what's the gain of ppl able to change employer. Pschew.
Ppl just taking delight in gaming the next person when you're both on a ferris wheel.
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