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Zahra29:
Genuine question, (and I come in peace )...

Why has similar support not been given to Wandering child/Chukwuka? He has written several posts trying to encourage fellow immigrants to aim higher and has shared his own successes/experiences to highlight what's possible especially if people work together as a community. He comes across as highly intelligent, but also humble. In response he's been criticised, laughed at ( "Aspire to Maguire" or something like that) and recently been accused of being "far removed from reality" and I don't recall anyone standing up for him (not that he needs it, I'm sure).

Zahra29:
Genuine question, (and I come in peace )...

Why has similar support not been given to Wandering child/Chukwuka? He has written several posts trying to encourage fellow immigrants to aim higher and has shared his own successes/experiences to highlight what's possible especially if people work together as a community. He comes across as highly intelligent, but also humble. In response he's been criticised, laughed at ( "Aspire to Maguire" or something like that) and recently been accused of being "far removed from reality" and I don't recall anyone standing up for him (not that he needs it, I'm sure).

Saccharine:
Jedisco if na boasting, boast dey go, I'm loving it as it gingers me like crazy! Don't know about others but I love to read about accomplishments and people doing well for themselves . I always look forward to your canny updates.

There's posts here for everyone..misery club, boasters club,humble club, rich club, poor club, striving club, riffraff club, oyibo can't do wrong club,Nigerians are evil club.. No problem, just concentrate on the posts that fit you, me, I fix my eyes on the posts that give me life

Una just too funny

Saccharine:
Jedisco if na boasting, boast dey go, I'm loving it as it gingers me like crazy! Don't know about others but I love to read about accomplishments and people doing well for themselves . I always look forward to your canny updates.

There's posts here for everyone..misery club, boasters club,humble club, rich club, poor club, striving club, riffraff club, oyibo can't do wrong club,Nigerians are evil club.. No problem, just concentrate on the posts that fit you, me, I fix my eyes on the posts that give me life

Una just too funny

Goke7:
😂 Let me add more - Bottom wipers club, cos bandits club, low skilled club nko, Boris wave club, 15-20 yrs ilr club, make we kuku scatter everything club, I don’t need benefits club, let’s build Nigeria club, utopia club, canny club, werey club etc.

OgbeniOptional:
The UK right now is not really worthy of any argument when it comes to immigration. I bet they don't even have data on how many legal residents and including their own citizens are moving out of the UK. 5 of us that I know bullshit their COS when the rumours of 10 years ILR came out and left for Australia, Canada and the US. People questioned my decision to leave NHS CoS for a Funded PhD in the US but I don't care. Look at the UK care sector very well, so many people who did their PhD in the UK in that sector, all because of COS, now what? I am sure they are still going to go to Africa or Asia to hunt again for Doctors, Nurses and low-paid labourers in a few years. Just that some of us, our dreams couldn't wait for 10 years(now 15 years proposal) or we risk getting stuck in the care sector (ask why even some people who later got the citizenship later got stuck in care). I see people saying “I'm just doing it for the passport”, Who told you that you will make it through that time? The other sad part is getting abused at work and in the community then having these politicians like Rupert and Farage validate them(now Labour and Tory join). If you trust your dreams enough, you are not really going to do what you don't like just cuz of a passport either for you or your children. Dare to dream, you really never know what is coming. If you are one of these “Boris waves” as they labelled us and you are not packaged into the UK, just find a way to a country that can validate your dreams. I really love living in the UK, but sadly my ambition and parents' struggles on that journey are gonna be wasted.

RodgersAkpafu:
I have always suspected the bolded

As them no dey stamp out
How do they know who they have let out
And i saw somewhere that they even rely in estimates, dont know how true it is but won't be shocked if this is true

Britain is just playing kalo kalo with everybody's head

Goke7:
They do have the data, but it won't suit the narrative they want out there. With the latest technology and scanners at the airports, they do know those who have been out of the country. If they should release the true data, what will be left for the politicians to campaign about immigration?

Zahra29:
But what has the above got to do with China and EVs?

By the way, remember when CA publicly accused India of nefarious activities on CA soil despite India being arguably "way past them"? Just because another country has greater technological advancements doesn't mean you don't call them out when appropriate.

HustlaOfLagos:
"Overseas staff could also be choosing to go to other countries because of higher salaries or as a result of the NHS’s drive to recruit more home-trained staff, the NMC said"

Who would have thought people with options to earn x5 the salary outside the UK, some self worth and common-sense would look elsewhere?
Definitely not me.


We will learn cause and effect and statistics together when the care / support worker crisis starts

Saccharine:
Jedisco if na boasting, boast dey go, I'm loving it as it gingers me like crazy! Don't know about others but I love to read about accomplishments and people doing well for themselves . I always look forward to your canny updates.

There's posts here for everyone..misery club, boasters club,humble club, rich club, poor club, striving club, riffraff club, oyibo can't do wrong club,Nigerians are evil club.. No problem, just concentrate on the posts that fit you, me, I fix my eyes on the posts that give me life

Una just too funny

HustlaOfLagos:
..Because I have given you points that you have chosen to ignore so I have moved on to other things.

I told you its far easier to target low paid MOJ employees and get access to data instead of relying on titbits and crumbs from convos in Chinese EVs. I also shared a crowdstrike link to this effect. Infact a similar tactic was deployed to a BBC staff who did not bite - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3w5n903447o
Saying Chinese EVs are a national threat in that way to the UK is just laughable and is akin to the US "national security excuses" or the classic "dog ate my homework" tales by moonlight when they obviously cant compete.

I have also asked you to show me UK"s greencard path in order to maximize the best out of the talents they import, you have also refused to show me that. The US has maximized this in that respect and I have told you the AI race is between Chinese Americans vs Chinese folks while the UK is continually stifling talents that come to its borders

So what would you have me say or do? You obviously are set in your ways and there is no changing that

Jamesclooney:
God bless you Zahra. Even though we don’t always agree, you are among the posters I check for on this thread because of the quality of your contributions. I can mention other monikers with similarly thoughtful posts that elevate the conversation without the condescending language or self-adulation (wise people let others praise them).

His supporters can continue D riding him and enabling his bad character. See them jumping out to condemn lol, yet when the person in question makes omniscient posts and belittles others… no comment from them. Peep. Now it’s all about context, background and nuance. Rubbish! What is wrong is wrong.

By Gods grace, I don’t have any reason to kiss his asx. Just calling it as I see it. I wish him all the best in his CA sojourns (tbh, I don’t really care lol). The end!

OgbeniOptional:
They don't really mess with students or if you are legal. They know who they are looking for, it is best to just avoid crimes.

Zahra29:
Morning 😊

The bolded essentially summarises the point I've been trying to make. Ie. If China wants to target low paid MoD staff to access state secrets, then they are a security threat.


You don't have to believe the threat and it's completely immaterial whether you do or not, unless you're one of the "low- paid", potential MoD spies you keep going on about 😂

Goke7:
Which club you say you Dey again? Boris kini abi

😂 according to Fashola may your loyalty not be tested or Tai Solarin may your days be rough e get why sha!

HustlaOfLagos:
"Overseas staff could also be choosing to go to other countries because of higher salaries or as a result of the NHS’s drive to recruit more home-trained staff, the NMC said"

Who would have thought people with options to earn x5 the salary outside the UK, some self worth and common-sense would look elsewhere?
Definitely not me.


We will learn cause and effect and statistics together when the care / support worker crisis starts

Raalsalghul:
I'm very sure they know the long term effects through their calculations but you should understand that these policies are for short term political gains and this labour government probably won't be in power by the time the effects are felt. Even if they are it'll be another prime minister and a new cabinet.

Take BREXIT for instance, the figures and political party behind it are no where close to the corridors of power today and hence it's not their headache. Just saying.

justwise:
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Obviously you have not been paying attention about Trump ICE operations

Raalsalghul:
I'm very sure they know the long term effects through their calculations but you should understand that these policies are for short term political gains and this labour government probably won't be in power by the time the effects are felt. Even if they are it'll be another prime minister and a new cabinet.

Take BREXIT for instance, the figures and political party behind it are no where close to the corridors of power today and hence it's not their headache. Just saying.

HustlaOfLagos:
Highly unlikely that those who have seen how others have been shenked with the 15 yr route will be willing to come long term. Ultimately, its a bad policy for the long term but its their country, they can do and undo as they like

OgbeniOptional:
I am and I can only speak for the state I am. I am definitely not for Trump and the human rights abuse. If you show your papers or ID, they will let you go. I definitely do not like that i have to walk around with my passport, I-20 and I-94 but that is America right now. The only time they were in my city was to take two Asylum seeker brothers who were charged for murder, the court later discovered they are undocumented and called ICE on them. If you are legal, no crimes, you have nothing to fear. Nothing ICE is doing right now that Ibadan SARS haven't done to me. This is the reality of America rn sir.

HustlaOfLagos:
Highly unlikely that those who have seen how others have been shenked with the 15 yr route will be willing to come long term. Ultimately, its a bad policy for the long term but its their country, they can do and undo as they like

RodgersAkpafu:
The truth are two fold

1. Most people who came via the care route with their family HAVE NOWHWERE TO GO (apart from back to Nigeria)
Every other place worth going has also become more and more competitive
That is one

2. If those ones decide to go, even better, the UK can have a constricted path for new comers and trust me, there are tens of millions of third world residents who dont mind waiting even 20 years for settlement

Whoever mentioned that they have made rheir calculations is correct
After ppl complain and complain
Most will swallow it
And wont go anywhere

directonpc:
The quality of those millions "third-worlders" tho. One side effect of this whole thing will be that hardworking and ambitious people might look elsewhere (including their home country).

OgbeniOptional:
I am and I can only speak for the state I am. I am definitely not for Trump and the human rights abuse. If you show your papers or ID, they will let you go. I definitely do not like that i have to walk around with my passport, I-20 and I-94 but that is America right now. The only time they were in my city was to take two Asylum seeker brothers who were charged for murder, the court later discovered they are undocumented and called ICE on them. If you are legal, no crimes, you have nothing to fear. Nothing ICE is doing right now that Ibadan SARS haven't done to me. This is the reality of America rn sir.

RodgersAkpafu:
The truth are two fold

1. Most people who came via the care route with their family HAVE NOWHWERE TO GO (apart from back to Nigeria)
Every other place worth going has also become more and more competitive
That is one

2. If those ones decide to go, even better, the UK can have a constricted path for new comers and trust me, there are tens of millions of third world residents who dont mind waiting even 20 years for settlement

Whoever mentioned that they have made rheir calculations is correct
After ppl complain and complain
Most will swallow it
And wont go anywhere