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Canada just created a new pathway for medical doctors to get express entry /permanent residence

Apparently its knives out for all these developed countries

The ones in the UK who are on COS may actually consider this, esp those who just came

Those with years in may think twice

Very interesting times I tell ya

Santa2:
The thing is that a lot of people actually have enough experience but might fall short as a result of not putting themselves out there in terms of keynote speeches in conferences, seminars, tv interviews, news paper publications and the likes. I know this because this is our achilles heel in personal situation. But I am actively working to mitigate against it especially as doin this make you eligible for 01,EB1, gulf golden visas and the likes. The day the scales fell of my eyes was then I found out that if you have already accrued 3 years on the skilled worker visa and you apply and get the exceptional talent visa, you can apply for ILR on exactly the same day you get the exceptional talent visa. A close friend actually did it. However this doesn't seem to be an issues in his case, if it were me I would leverage the YouTube channel as evidence of my expertise,

Am really surprised that someone with that kind of profile is looking for COS, the YouTube channel with good numbers sha can even make up for keynote speeches or publications, all na packaging bruv or he looks for an invite to a professional platform or conference and just add that evidence. It’s about just giving it a try even the Australian global talent or national innovation route is another option. And I can see he’s even worked for a global company like Virgin. If while working for a global brand and you get an award like best employee or even just a recognition that comes with a certificate or documented that is like an international award good for evidence to try for an O1 visa.

Goke7:
Am really surprised that someone with that kind of profile is looking for COS, the YouTube channel with good numbers sha can even make up for keynote speeches or publications, all na packaging bruv or he looks for an invite to a professional platform or conference and just add that evidence. It’s about just giving it a try even the Australian global talent or national innovation route is another option. And I can see he’s even worked for a global company like Virgin. If while working for a global brand and you get an award like best employee or even just a recognition that comes with a certificate or documented that is like an international award good for evidence to try for an O1 visa.

Any idea how to get this?

RodgersAkpafu:
Canada just created a new pathway for medical doctors to get express entry /permanent residence

Apparently its knives out for all these developed countries

The ones in the UK who are on COS may actually consider this, esp those who just came

Those with years in may think twice

Very interesting times I tell ya

Saw it some mins ago.

Means they will have PR pathways for Drs and support workers next year

Santa2:
The thing is that a lot of people actually have enough experience but might fall short as a result of not putting themselves out there in terms of keynote speeches in conferences, seminars, tv interviews, news paper publications and the likes. I know this because this is our achilles heel in personal situation. But I am actively working to mitigate against it especially as doin this make you eligible for 01,EB1, gulf golden visas and the likes. The day the scales fell of my eyes was then I found out that if you have already accrued 3 years on the skilled worker visa and you apply and get the exceptional talent visa, you can apply for ILR on exactly the same day you get the exceptional talent visa. A close friend actually did it. However this doesn't seem to be an issues in his case, if it were me I would leverage the YouTube channel as evidence of my expertise,

Got connects / guidance / directions for this Santa? Christmas is here already

HustlaOfLagos:
Any idea how to get this?

For example there are platforms or bootcamps for techies like software engineers or product managers if you have friends or connects to people in this space link up and ask if you could give a talk or even a webinar. It’s all about networking. And when you get an invite ensure there are posters or online publicity posters with your name and picture as a guest speaker, the poster is part of the evidence along with letter or email of invitation and then from twitter ensure participants engage by giving their feedback, all these will serve as evidence too

Jamesclooney:
Great post Santa2. Long but good…well worth the read.

Like you, I’ve greatly benefited from Nairaland. It’s been a treasure trove and a reservoir of knowledge for me. Nairaland helped me secure my first job with a multinational, donkey years ago. From SHL prep to all the assessment centre and interview tips for multiple companies. (I was almost always surprised by how generous some posters were, even with direct competitors, but that’s a story for another day 😂.)

Time to japa, NL helped me with firsthand realtime info on schools for MSc. Upon admission, I balanced for UK visa thread (I still refer to it till now to advise friends and family that come visiting). Or is it house purchase, or general settling in the UK, the list is endless. NL has been a sure plug (big S/o to Seun).

I’ve always believed in and bowed to superior knowledge, so I’m genuinely interested in other people’s opinions. Like I said earlier, I’ve only been loyal to Nairaland, and this thread in particular, because of the gems you won’t find elsewhere (and also the anonymity which allows people to be candid).

Where I take exception with some people is the holier than thou attitude. Raising shoulders. Belittling people who don’t have the vision to japa 2.0 or generally the “mental rigmarole” or the “I’m sorry for you with your worldview” comments etc. Simply put, there’s guy no sabi talk (IMHO).

I even recall an encounter months back when I was waiting for feedback on my Canada visitor visa process, and I came here to see if anyone was in the same boat as me and his comment was something along the lines of Canada visa process is superior to UK visa due to the length of visa and more cost effective. But Oga, I applied because I was going for my sisters graduation which was time bound, how does giving me a visa one year after even help me? It defeats the purpose of my application. Baba kept quiet. And so many more interactions with others.

I recall when I was japa’ing to the UK, I had dozens of colleagues who japa’d around the same time, to both UK and Canada. A lot of my friends tried to persuade me to take the Canada option. In the end, I opted for the UK, and a few years later, I can say hand on heart, no regrets. In fact, compared to the friends in CA, it’s been a mixed bag for some of them. While some found jobs immediately upon landing or even from Nigeria, some struggled to find work for more than a year. The point I’m making is: what worked for Mr A, won’t necessarily work for Mr B.

Ultimately, there’s no fixed formula in life. You do your due diligence, make a decision, and pray to your God for the stars to align in your favour. There’s no need for the condescending attitude or treating others as less than. No one knows tomorrow. We are all winging it in this life and so everyone needs to chill.

I recall your post on the canadian visa process as I was in the same boat.( I think I even replied to it). Those guyz took almost 11 months before they responded. It was so annonying, Now that I have gotten the visa, I don't see my self using it. Except maybe if I decide to go watch the world cup next year with my son who is a huge football fan. With regards to the bolded on choosing Canada over UK, I must confess, I sometimes wonder if I would have been better off choosing Canada over UK with regards to settlement. Like you, I had one eye in Canada and other other in UK. What tilted the cart for me was that Canada student visa processing time was very long at the time, and the fact that the masters study was 2 years while the UK was 1. However a relative that went same time as me for study already have their PR despite the 2 years masters study. But where the UK in my opinion trumps Canada is with regards to closeness to Naija (not like I even go there often) and availability of professional jobs. I kind of believe that there are more professional jobs here in the UK than in Canada hence making it easier for an immigrant to get a job here than there (but I might be wrong). All in all I do not regret coming to the UK even with the current immigration malady, But I dey shine my eyes dey look outside, if they continue to move mad we activate Japa 2.0 and 3.0 . Like you said na to pray to our God for the stars to align in our favour.

HustlaOfLagos:
Saw it some mins ago.

Means they will have PR pathways for Drs and support workers next year

Ah, at the bold, they should try it na.

HustlaOfLagos:
Got connects / guidance / directions for this Santa? Christmas is here already

. I see what you did there.. You can go by the way of using chatgpt (these days I prefer Manus AI) to curate a 3-6 month to making you a thought leader in your field. It can list out seminars, conferences , Tech podcasts, tech publications that you should narrow in on. You can also use it to draft introductory letters to these platforms. You might not get responses back from some but some might respond positively. Also like Goke7 highlighted you can also network to speak on twitter spaces, platforms or bootcamp. Heck you can even create your own platform. Another way would be to get a PR firm to curate these experiences for you. You can get a PR company from Naija as it might be more cost effective. We engaged one here in the Uk but they are just taking a piss, we are getting more traction using the AI plan than their paid services

Santa2:
@AKALAMAGBO Congratulatios Baba!! We dey come wash the house ooh. share your sentiments with regards to buying despite the whole immigration brouhaha, worse case if kasala burst I sell am or rent am. Factored this in when I was buying, made sure it was in an ideal location, few mins from train station (48 mins into central london) and amenities. God go help all of us. Congrats once again.

Congrats to you too my Baba Santa 🎅… na your month we dey (Xmas), na make you celebrate for all of us for here oo.. 😁😁

Honestly, location matters when looking at buying property/properties.
They tend to say “buy the worst house in the best location and not the other way round”.

Whilst I was looking, I found some houses that were relatively cheap and needed no refurb. Just move in. But considering the location of some of those houses, I looked away.

I was bad with money but that changed just of recent due to things I read online and offline most times. I remembered buying Mercedes CLA 2020 in my first year in the UK. Don’t get me wrong, I didn’t pay for all of it in cash but I deposited considerable amount that could have been invested elsewhere.

Then something happened… A friend who I went to Uni with, who I noticed struggled financially most of our Uni days told me they have secured a mortgage… I was shocked.. That news alone did a massive reset to my financial escapade. I then started saving, living frugally then ignoring my wants but prioritizing my needs…

Make I avoid too much talk sha… Reading/hearing people doing good things gingers me and it often ignites my sleeping medulla.

Goke7:
CA is always a good option just ensure you pay all the right and accurate medical bills as a non resident or visitor. In my opinion it’s worth all the investment as I have seen someone who did it. Get your visitor visa as the first step if you haven’t.

Thanks for the info

Santa2:
@Bwisewiturvot My approach would be to do the best I can to create the best opportunities for my child/children. So I would say if you can, please do. I did same over a decade ago but then we were was in Naija (did it in yankee). I think most of the principles might still be slightly be same (or changed significantly with the whole immigration brouhaha). I think there is a related thread that deals with it here so search it out. Just make sure you pay all your fees and collect receipts ( you might have to chase them for receipt), please don't leave without receipt, and always have it with you in your subsequent travels back to the country as you might get asked. Also you might want to research locations where the health care cost might be lower. I reckon the cost might be cheaper in Sask than Toronto( this is just an example).

You've got time so you will need to do a lot of research. In my case then I had to go a city were we had no family as the cost was a lot lower even when airbnb stay (extended stay) was added. Research everything not just the birthing process but also documentation process after baby comes. Its a huge project you about to embark so plan am well. I remember back then taking a loan of N1.6 million naira which converted to just over $10,000 ( those were the good days of exchange rate) to add to our saved funds for the process. We were complaining that the rate were high, if only we knew. Back then we already had US visit visas prior to finding out wifey was pregnant. So before she left for the US we wrote to the embassy in lagos and abuja, about our intent to give birth with the same visa we got for visit. They both replied that we should make sure we pay all our bills which we did. This gave us comfort to embark on the trip as sometimes people get turned back at point of entry. With these letters we had full confidence.

This is well detailed and encourging...thank you!
Have shared your response with my partner
The argument is - but we are already in the UK not naija
5 years IHS fully paid - we have to maximise the payment o - not paying for another health care charges in another country 😀

Cost of applying for another visa, temp accommodation, logistics etc -: when we are already abroad? - obodo oyibo is obodo oyibo

When your partner is from a particular region in Nigeria, you go press calculator tire

We are still negotiating on the expenses sharing formula if implemented, I just hope the matter scales through the 2nd parliamentary hearing.... still at the consultation phase

Many thanks for this tip... will strive for the little one to get a sound identity even if it doesn't work. out at the end of day, we move atleast I made effort

Please gurus, will appreciate more inputs on the subject matter... I am happy to DM if you wish to share the hacks privately

Santa2:
. I see what you did there.. You can go by the way of using chatgpt (these days I prefer Manus AI) to curate a 3-6 month to making you a thought leader in your field. It can list out seminars, conferences , Tech podcasts, tech publications that you should narrow in on. You can also use it to draft introductory letters to these platforms. You might not get responses back from some but some might respond positively. Also like Goke7 highlighted you can also network to speak on twitter spaces, platforms or bootcamp. Heck you can even create your own platform. Another way would be to get a PR firm to curate these experiences for you. You can get a PR company from Naija as it might be more cost effective. We engaged one here in the Uk but they are just taking a piss, we are getting more traction using the AI plan than their paid services

Thanks!

Will have a look at Manus AI and follow recommendations

Raalsalghul:
Ah, at the bold, they should try it na.

Already exists - coming back next year

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/caregivers/home-care-worker-immigration-pilots/child-care-home-support.html

Goke7:
For example there are platforms or bootcamps for techies like software engineers or product managers if you have friends or connects to people in this space link up and ask if you could give a talk or even a webinar. It’s all about networking. And when you get an invite ensure there are posters or online publicity posters with your name and picture as a guest speaker, the poster is part of the evidence along with letter or email of invitation and then from twitter ensure participants engage by giving their feedback, all these will serve as evidence too

Thanks!

No evidence is too much

Do all you can to save your kids please

I might seem to sound very dismissing in this piece. Please I want you to know that I come in peace.

We have been forced to pause our seed raise to correct some fundamental flaws in our team and network. 2 months ago, we set out to raise a seed (in the $10-$20m range) to deploy across the UK (London/Slough), Amsterdam, Ireland and Virginia (US). Every relevant investor we have met has asked for one thing majorly – the need for us to have on our board and team folks with m7/T-10 degrees. In resolving this issue, we tinkered with the idea of getting folks from Stanford, UCB, or HBS but the cost was equity simply because of a badge. As much as I know that this is the game, I am building a network and team, and such approach simply puts power in the hands of “outsiders” driven by values different from ours. We initially secured the services of an advisor (also owner of a VC in London) from HBS but had to cancel the contract. The attitude of the guy didn’t bode well. It looked like he was doing us a favour.

I took a drastic decision to pause the raise and rather do a bridge while we take a more long-term approach. I have now had meetings with my core team and family members who work with us and set a very firm timeline for everyone. Those in the arts/humanities/law are to complete their pending studies (master’s and PhD) by next year and head out to either Harvard (preferred) or Oxford (worst case). Every other person in finance, tech, strategy is to head out to one of only 3 places - California (GSB or UCB), New York (NYU or Columbia) and Massachusetts (HBS or MIT). To effect this, the folks heading out to the US are to immediately put in their apps for EB1 or EB2 while the folks heading to the UK (from Europe) without GTVs are to have that in by next year. I am pleased to say the plan is working rather well. The first of 3 folks for the US have now secured their EB1/EB2 with two completing their GRE and GMAT with scores in the range for current intakes. The plan is to ensure that when applying for graduate admissions, everyone applies either as a permanent resident (in the US) or as ILR/GTV (in the UK).

What informed my decision was our inability to answer the question – Who and where are our peers? Our age range is between 25 – 40 with the younger folks (under 30) finishing undergrad studies (some had to leave Nigeria to start over) or doctorate studies. Our “white” peers are currently managers – c suite executives (in startups and scaleups, IBs, PE, or VC) who are taking decisions on capital allocation ($10m - $100m budgets). When we look within our current networks, we don’t have folks like these in actionable numbers. The best are associates in the junior range and unable to influence anything where they work. We don’t have folks who we can call and be guaranteed say a $5m cheque based on their own network. We don’t have folks our age and in our networks who have some powerful influence that can help us unlock value effortlessly at say potential clients’ end. We don’t have alumni networks that can be leveraged to scale or unlock value.

This is the new world. Access to opportunities (work or funding) is no more a factor of intelligence or brilliance but network. Being intelligent or brilliant is now a statistical outlier in the world. This is a very dangerous trend that will lock the majority of us and our kids out of opportunities. I was recently at the open day for one of the T-10 business schools in the US and I saw college students (undergrads) at the meeting being prepped on how to put in their application and scale the work experience criteria. I was the 2nd oldest in that room. There were veterans (National Guard and another branch of the military) with 10 years’ experience and yet me well under 40 was older than one of them! Seeing those young girls prepping for the 2026 admission cycle against 2027 admission was enough motivation for me.

We now live in a world where opportunities are being ring-fenced. People only want to associate with you if you have something in common. They want to relate with people like themselves who have similar ideologies and exposure. Universities are proving to be that commonality in most of these emerging networks. Mention some PE or VC or IB firms today and by default, 90% of their recruits will be from specific universities. What is crucial to note here is that Europe and the UK lack such impact or appeal simply because they failed to institutionalise entrepreneurship. A Stanford MBA student will see over 50 billionaires who head or are at C-suite levels from a16z to Nvidia to Palantir to Google to YC to just name it during their MBA. These folks will be there to deliver lectures and chair presentation sessions. Imagine the access this gives. You will be classmates with folks who have left top roles at all kinds of companies. Imagine the network. This is the new world. You will be supported by career centres who will literally be reaching out to alumni members on your behalf to book appointments. One funny story I heard recently was a guy who got a job attending the reunion of grads from his uni at a top firm. These alumni members had reached out to their school to send a few grad students with interest in working in that firm to attend their reunion. The guy left with a job and resumption date (before getting a contract). Over 60% of jobs secured by grads at one of the m7 unis were facilitated by the university.

This is the world where your kids are growing up to compete. The degrees they will have will be material if it is from the right school. You thus have a responsibility to understand how the world works and strategically position them for the future. The default location you should have for your kids is the US with T-10/T-15 universities as your target. If that is not possible, then worst cases should be Oxbridge. Any other uni outside Oxbridge in the UK or T-10/T-15 in the US for undergrad studies is a waste of time and resources. I have acquaintances who schooled in MIT, Stanford, UPenn, etc and I know how it has eased things for them. Please aim to equip your kids with the relevant ammunition they would need to conquer life. Start optimising for SAT/ACT and IELTS/TOEFL for those kids. Give them wings to fly.

I have just remembered something someone told me some years ago. His plan was to ensure his kid learnt software engineering. He was going to do all from extra lessons, to bootcamps, etc. I look back to our discussions and smile. His plan will only be fruitful if he optimises for that child to leave for the US for undergrad studies. Last night, I had a 3 way call for over 90 minutes after which we concluded that over 50 staff in one of our businesses will be laid off by end of Q1 next year. This is because of Antigravity and Huggingface. The CEO of one of our subsidiary businesses has successfully vibe coded an enterprise product for universities. It took him one month of prompting with Cursor and Antigravity (the last one week when Antigravity was released) and a fully functional product that will take 6-9 months of development involving over 20 people has been completed. This is the world we live in. Jobs are getting obsolete faster than ever. Our initial thinking of getting a separate team to build our trading platform will now be done by 2 very young folks using Antigravity, Huggingface and Ocaml to get the same performance as JS trading software. Think about that!

You know, I said something some time ago that any Nigerian Youth that failed to see themselves in the top 20 city in 24 months was going to be useless to humanity. I am afraid my assessment really underrepresented the outcome. By the end of next year, if they still are not in a top 20 city, they can almost forget being useful to the wider humanity. The rate of technology obsolescence is alarming. We are seeing competition for 1 staff startup with $1billion valuation and over $200m ARR just from vibe coding – that is the madness that is being pursued now by founders under 30. This is the world where your kids will want to live, thrive and build. They need to be able to navigate life with the knowledge and soundness and confidence that it requires.

When I said that parents who do not cross the million-dollar threshold in net worth will leave a legacy of poverty for their kids, this was the basis. How do you fund the studies of these kids in these top schools and provide them the support they need? Can you fund your kid with $250k for them to just test out an AI startup idea in your garage with their partner while coughing out similar amount for undergrad studies (if waivers and scholarships don’t cut it down significantly)?

I will conclude by pleading that as we navigate this chaos of immigration, we do not forget these kids. If Nigeria has any chance of survival in the future, it will depend on your kids. The wings you give them to fly will help them break into relevant networks and ensure that tomorrow they can influence decisions at the tables that matter in alleviating the living conditions back in Nigeria. So please if you are qualified for that EB1/EB2/EB3 or GTV or PR route in Canada or NIV or PR route in Australia, please take it. These kids need to be preserved AT ALL COST. They are the future. I was proud speaking to my colleague’s younger brother who is one of our youngest researchers joining us officially next year. His breadth of AI and prompt engineering and understanding of the interoperability of systems and selection/benchmarking of AI models is top notch. Last night took me back to my PhD days of Bohachevsky 1 and 2, Schaffer, Beale, Booth and Matyas. Talking with him assured me that our future is bright.

Please, how do you send items like a gadget to Nigeria? Do you have a contact, and do you know whether the receiver would need to pay any customs duty?

Kemi is badass. Her questions are raising the issues confronting us daily - energy bills, hospital appointments, teachers, police, etc. What is Starmer's response - word salad.

I feel for Rachel Reeves because whether she likes it or not, she dey catch stray bullet for every PMQ. 400+ fewer teachers, 1200+ fewer police officers, 93k+ extra appointments lost to doctor's strike and over £185 average increase in energy bills. Add more taxes, higher job losses, faster business delinquencies and increased welfare spend and you start seeing Nigeria in Polaroid.

That Starmer is unable to even know the state of the different sectors in the UK is alarming. That the education secretary doesn't know what is publicly on the DfE's website is alarming. However when you watch Yes! Minister, you realise oh, this is the UK, nothing new.

I have to keep coming back! Starmer is a tout. There is no difference between him and MC Oluomo. What kind of "agbero" response is this? What kind of garage performance is this? A whole PM shouting out lies and untruths and unable to provide responses to questions. Is this how the UK will generate innovation? Is this how productivity will be generated and sustained? What nonsense is this now? Is it not enough that the immigration policies are quite death squads but to add this level of "agbadoism" and rubbish karaoke dance to a shambolic presentation as PM during the PMQs is nothing short of comic relief.

I know that what will kill UK households are only three things - energy bills, inflation and interest rates. "Ed Milipede" is clear on his plans to impoverish UK households. The "buffalo*" is building nuclear power plants and supporting all kinds of nonsense renewables in Scotland. UK has no transmission network to evacuate that power. UK still uses gas as its pricing base ensuring that renewables are more expensive. Nuclear is like 10-20 years away from coming online. All the expenses being made by energy companies across the grid will see energy prices rising by up to £500 in the next 12-24 months. In addition to this will be inflation driven by government. As the ONS and OBR has shown, inflation will add £41 billion every year to the tax base till 2030 (when you see your property price increasing in value, please discount inflation to know what's up) ensuring that fiscal drag keeps salary earners poorer. Lastly will be the dem*ns at the BoE whose job is to act like confused "ewure" and add the last straw to the camel's back to ensure total decimation. Those clowns will claim that higher interest rates will be crucial to combat rising and sudden inflation - always sudden as if inflation happens by magic.

Bottom line - higher energy bills (which if government intervenes like during Covid, then be rest assured we would pay it in form of higher inflation), higher interest rates meaning finance will get more expensive and higher inflation (government will print money like never before because that budget cannot be financed by tax receipts alone).

Interesting times but reminisce of 1984.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHR6usutswA

AKALAMAGBO:
In the midst of all these brouhaha (immigrations stuff and vilification of Boris wave), we completed on the 27th of November and got the keys to our house. All thanks to the “Rent money is dead money” by LexusGS.

Honestly, it doesn’t scare me a bit as people panic on immigration whatever… I can’t continue paying rent for the next 3 years whilst on skilled worker visa if I have the means to buy. I know if push comes to shove, I can sell in 2 years considering I only took 2 years fixed term anyways, and please don’t tell me it’s easier said than done! I have weighed my pros and cons and I am happy with whatever decision I make as an adult.

Life goes on, don’t delay your plans for the fear of the unknown.

Nuggets from people like Jedisco also informed my decision on stock and shares ISA with InvestEngine. Truthfully, I wish I started early.

I like seeing posts from Zahra because they do contain immigration informations which are legit.
Also, her sound response to questions about things are unmatched here. Though, I still think Zahra and Jedisco should meet for a cuppa 😅😅

Peace ✌🏻

Is investengine a moniker here?

AKALAMAGBO:
In the midst of all these brouhaha (immigrations stuff and vilification of Boris wave), we completed on the 27th of November and got the keys to our house. All thanks to the “Rent money is dead money” by LexusGS.

Honestly, it doesn’t scare me a bit as people panic on immigration whatever… I can’t continue paying rent for the next 3 years whilst on skilled worker visa if I have the means to buy. I know if push comes to shove, I can sell in 2 years considering I only took 2 years fixed term anyways, and please don’t tell me it’s easier said than done! I have weighed my pros and cons and I am happy with whatever decision I make as an adult.

Life goes on, don’t delay your plans for the fear of the unknown.

Nuggets from people like Jedisco also informed my decision on stock and shares ISA with InvestEngine. Truthfully, I wish I started early.

I like seeing posts from Zahra because they do contain immigration informations which are legit.
Also, her sound response to questions about things are unmatched here. Though, I still think Zahra and Jedisco should meet for a cuppa 😅😅

Peace ✌🏻

please what's investengine about?

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/reform-forced-to-defend-candidate-from-their-own-racist-supporters-401249/

https://x.com/georgedmadgwick/status/1997973680194826539 Very interesting comments section.

Should be instructive for a few folk here.

Goodenoch:
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/reform-forced-to-defend-candidate-from-their-own-racist-supporters-401249/

https://x.com/georgedmadgwick/status/1997973680194826539 Very interesting comments section.

Should be instructive for a few folk here.

I don’t know why I find this very funny.

It seems they’re not right‑wing enough.

Their only manifesto is anti‑immigration, with no clear plan on how to implement it and no meaningful policies to improve the economy.

It’s also an eye‑opener for some folks in the UK who think they’re better than others—to realize that locals don’t give a Bleep about you as long as you’re an immigrant; you all are treated as the same group of people.

Goodenoch:
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/reform-forced-to-defend-candidate-from-their-own-racist-supporters-401249/

https://x.com/georgedmadgwick/status/1997973680194826539 Very interesting comments section.

Should be instructive for a few folk here.

Hilarious. The goofy grin the chap's wearing in the photo reminds one of a scene from one of the Police Academy movies where someone found himself in a bar whose clientele he'd unfortunately misidentified.

On another note, it appears the Reform chap threw some sort of petrol on the fire? He referred to the chap as a "campaigner", then said something about Commonwealth citizens being eligible to "stand [for office?] - which is not the case unless one is settled.

Cyberknight:
Hilarious. The goofy grin the chap's wearing in the photo reminds one of a scene from one of the Police Academy movies where someone found himself in a bar whose clientele he'd unfortunately misidentified.

On another note, it appears the Reform chap threw some sort of petrol on the fire? He referred to the chap as a "campaigner", then said something about Commonwealth citizens being eligible to "stand [for office?] - which is not the case unless one is settled.

He may be referring to dual citizens, though 😂 you know, even with citizenship, they still don’t see people who are not born in the UK as British. It looks like he was referring to local council elections, actually, and not national elections.

There is still a significant disparity between those born in the UK but without British ancestry and those born abroad with citizenship. Even in the civil service, there are demarcations on what roles they can occupy

Goodenoch:
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/reform-forced-to-defend-candidate-from-their-own-racist-supporters-401249/

https://x.com/georgedmadgwick/status/1997973680194826539 Very interesting comments section.

Should be instructive for a few folk here.

Despite the damage control, he still couldn’t convince anyone 😂, but seriously, what was the man thinking when he was bringing a brown person to campaign for the Reform party!

It’s like bringing a Somalian to campaign for the MAGA gang in the US 😂

WanderingChild:
Kemi is badass. Her questions are raising the issues confronting us daily - energy bills, hospital appointments, teachers, police, etc. What is Starmer's response - word salad.

I feel for Rachel Reeves because whether she likes it or not, she dey catch stray bullet for every PMQ. 400+ fewer teachers, 1200+ fewer police officers, 93k+ extra appointments lost to doctor's strike and over £185 average increase in energy bills. Add more taxes, higher job losses, faster business delinquencies and increased welfare spend and you start seeing Nigeria in Polaroid.

That Starmer is unable to even know the state of the different sectors in the UK is alarming. That the education secretary doesn't know what is publicly on the DfE's website is alarming. However when you watch Yes! Minister, you realise oh, this is the UK, nothing new.

I have to keep coming back! Starmer is a tout. There is no difference between him and MC Oluomo. What kind of "agbero" response is this? What kind of garage performance is this? A whole PM shouting out lies and untruths and unable to provide responses to questions. Is this how the UK will generate innovation? Is this how productivity will be generated and sustained? What nonsense is this now? Is it not enough that the immigration policies are quite death squads but to add this level of "agbadoism" and rubbish karaoke dance to a shambolic presentation as PM during the PMQs is nothing short of comic relief.

I know that what will kill UK households are only three things - energy bills, inflation and interest rates. "Ed Milipede" is clear on his plans to impoverish UK households. The "buffalo*" is building nuclear power plants and supporting all kinds of nonsense renewables in Scotland. UK has no transmission network to evacuate that power. UK still uses gas as its pricing base ensuring that renewables are more expensive. Nuclear is like 10-20 years away from coming online. All the expenses being made by energy companies across the grid will see energy prices rising by up to £500 in the next 12-24 months. In addition to this will be inflation driven by government. As the ONS and OBR has shown, inflation will add £41 billion every year to the tax base till 2030 (when you see your property price increasing in value, please discount inflation to know what's up) ensuring that fiscal drag keeps salary earners poorer. Lastly will be the dem*ns at the BoE whose job is to act like confused "ewure" and add the last straw to the camel's back to ensure total decimation. Those clowns will claim that higher interest rates will be crucial to combat rising and sudden inflation - always sudden as if inflation happens by magic.

Bottom line - higher energy bills (which if government intervenes like during Covid, then be rest assured we would pay it in form of higher inflation), higher interest rates meaning finance will get more expensive and higher inflation (government will print money like never before because that budget cannot be financed by tax receipts alone).

Interesting times but reminisce of 1984.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHR6usutswA

Kemi sure has improved giving Starmer and his hand woto woto from all angles. His answers to everything is after 14 years of the conservatives, they had 14 years to know how not to run a country and here we are. I like how she gave them numbers, at least those don't lie. What's with Starmer and £150 given to families for energy bills, energy bills have increased by X amount and will increase in January again and they will give you £150 back, no thank you.

Kemi critics what you say?

deept:
Kemi sure has improved giving Starmer and his hand woto woto from all angles. His answers to everything is after 14 years of the conservatives, they had 14 years to know how not to run a country and here we are. I like how she gave them numbers, at least those don't lie. What's with Starmer and £150 given to families for energy bills, energy bills have increased by X amount and will increase in January again and they will give you £150 back, no thank you.

Kemi critics what you say?

Check her poll numbers…no improvement for the Conservatives. She came at the wrong time + wrong party.

deept:
Kemi critics what you say?

There are very few actual or objective critics of Kemi B on here. Most are simply outright haters and pretty much despise her.

Kem is certainly doing better - no gainsaying. by most estimates, she has been on fire since responding to the Rachel Reeves' budget. Comments on some of the clips have been almost universally positive. Even uproariously so. Even the vanishingly rare naysayers have sounded choked as they protest.

She may not have hit the ground running, but is certainly picking up steam, and many that were negative or lukewarm at best, are re-appraising her and her chances. The British love pluck.

Having said that, one swallow does not a summer make! This may not change her long-term outcome. The Labour party led by the gormless Kier Starmer, and with the painfully out-of-her depth Reeves as chancellor are literally punch drunk punching bags. Sitting ducks, with a chorus line of lightweights. If the Labour party were footballers, they'd be the kind "you go take enter camp".

There are still some in her party who will never quite warm to her and others who would politically off her at the slightest chance - and the right time for that is not yet - timing is everything. I still feel she took up the mantle too early and, by default has some of the "last 14-years" stink cling to her.

Then there is of course reform. Conservative MPs and party members are still defecting at pace and scale. They are are narrowing in on the things that are troubling the majority of people (this country is still 75%-odd ethnic\indigenous British).

If she can keep it up and drop some smoking hot policies, get the party to rally around her for the most part, then maybe, just maybe? Hopefully she's learnt to temper her utterances given the fallout from her ill-judged comments about Nigeria - unwise and unprofitable. even where I agree or share sentiments, being in her shoes I would have kept mum or, articulated much better.

Hope she is getting better advice. She is not any less than anyone on the UK political scene - I have little time for pretty much all of them. She is not a Statesman or even one in the making by any means - not just yet.


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Goodenoch:
Should be instructive for a few folk here.

Instructive? In what way and, for whom exactly?

Some indigenes are not happy with the idea of a foreign-born person of non-British descent holding political office in the UK. In most countries, and amongst most communities and peoples, that is the norm. The ease of gaining citizenship in the UK is way above what most other countries will afford you. Gainsay that if you can.

Check out the UAE - which is closer to this mans ethnicity and likely sectarian leanings. How about Saudi Arabia? Try public worship as a Christian there - you know, like muslims block the streets doing here. Name me one other country where a first generation immigrant has held high, let alone the highest office.

The Bangladeshis have taken over Tower Hamlets. Bringing their homeland politics with them - malfeasance, incompetence, sectarianism, nepotism. There are even Bangladeshi councillors from Tower Hamlet running for office "back home" in Bangladesh - running parallel with their tenures in the UK. Why is that ever ok? And why wouldn't it lead to questions about the loyalties of immigrants and if office should be open to them so soon? Do you know why Birmingham is the way it is?

I appreciate the prevailing ethos here. And by all means feel free to make your case. But being armed with the term "racist", an unyielding entitlement mentality and the victimhood cape, doesn't make one a Ninja or a cogent argument. Nothing stops you getting yours here, if you strive and make savvy - as many have pointed out.

Most and the worst so called "right-wing" out-workings are a response to what indigenes see as the deterioration of their culture and living standards, and perceived threats. to their continued way of life.

There will always be some extremism, but it is mostly a thing of the past here, and would ordinarily gain little traction - it is still strongly resisted by most indigenes. So smears like "All British, see all immigrants as beneath them" are made by ingrates and hypocrites - given you wouldn't say boo to marauding Fula who would take your head without breaking stride.

As people go, the British are amongst - if not pretty much - the most welcoming people and accommodating nations. I have lived, studied and worked on 3 continents - I know. Your own feet testify to that fact - there are 193 other countries you could have chosen to ply your trade - 194 if you learnt to say boo.



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Goodenoch:
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/reform-forced-to-defend-candidate-from-their-own-racist-supporters-401249/

https://x.com/georgedmadgwick/status/1997973680194826539 Very interesting comments section.

Should be instructive for a few folk here.

Its common sense nau lol

There will always be racists and mugu brits who will spew stuff like this, and black coons that will rationalise stuff like this, such as tbe preceding post to this one

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