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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 2:26pm On Dec 21, 2025
Goke7:
Aunty going MAGA full time 😂

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c36z84ej6e0o
my sure paddy Aunty Kemi
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 2:27pm On Dec 21, 2025
Fred2020:
Nigerians are enterprising and remarkably resilient. When faced with obstacles, we rarely wait for permission people organise, adapt, and push forward with collective determination. So it’s hardly surprising that the first sector to receive a waiver is one largely dominated by Nigerians and Ghanaians. Ironically, this same level of coordination and problem-solving is often absent in Nigeria itself (Nairaland included).

At home, it too often dissolves into noise, infighting, and endless debate. Same people, very different outcomes.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp89p1x26kxo
.This is more of need and self interest of the justice dept, not really about "organising"
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 2:28pm On Dec 21, 2025
Goke7:
The same riff raffs? 😂
Lmaoooo
Set awon riff raffs

We like to fool ourselves sha 🤡 🤡
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 2:33pm On Dec 21, 2025
Raalsalghul:
Bros this fight wey you wan start, hope say you get the energy? grin
Lmaooo
Set awon riff raffs lol 😆
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 2:34pm On Dec 21, 2025
Goke7:
The patriots have been lamenting on twitter since yesterday dem no believe am 😂 e be like AI for their eye
But they should fill the roles nau

It is that simple
Even though in a sense, they are exploiting the immigrants with the "capped pay"

But to the immigrants, its better than the "disgraced" countries they come from
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 2:35pm On Dec 21, 2025
Teedol:
UK is a country that pretends to be tough on immigration yet surviving on cheap migrant labour, I just had a sit down with a neighbour of mine, a British white woman who works in one of the job centres, do you know you can now claim as much as £71k a year if you have 6kids and know your way around UC and all other benefit agencies?
71k?
Oluwa oooooooo
This is shocking 😲
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 2:36pm On Dec 21, 2025
HustlaOfLagos:
Saw the new yesterday on Sky and I just dey laugh

The healthcare one too will be as bad and I have said it time again that they do not have a coherent policy / plan per immigration and for most things.

No expertise, no sense to handling matters, reactionary immigration policies because all they want is to appease their base and blame immigration for everything instead of deploying common-sense tactics and educating the public about the importance of immigration and how immigrants also help the economy.

The fixes they need to implement dey stare them for eye like this and removing the 2 child cap proves my point even further.
Immigrants come with their problems too, and thats what the people are seeing
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 2:38pm On Dec 21, 2025
Goke7:
Like one of us here said some time ago the exit of care workers from the sector after obtaining ilr is their greatest worry especially now that overseas workers entry has been banned reason for the threat of 15 year ilr qualification to keep folks in that sector for as long as possible.

Bigotry is terrible, makes you look stupid no matter how you spin it. How you do explain to your people you can’t even find prison workers? Farm workers, care workers, delivery riders thank God bus conductors no exist for this country shortage go dey for that one too 😂 even police officers too they are looking for while patriots sip their beer at home!
15 year path to ILR
people will largely still stay
You wanna bet?

Which country is gonna absorb the legions of care workers?
How many of them can. even afford to move their families at this point ?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 2:54pm On Dec 21, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
Immigrants come with their problems too, and thats what the people are seeing
What about the thousands who will not come with problems but instead proffer solutions? What if Elon Musk had come to the UK instead of the US? Will he have the same opportunities to scale or be hassled everyday and reminded he is a bloody immigrant?

.. And it is the job of the gov / people implementing those policies to educate the masses about the benefits of bringing in immigrants using a strong immigration policy instead of being more divisive. It will not help anyone in the long run.

We know the ones who will likely cause troubles but no one is bold enough to seek action against it except maybe Donald Trump (execution is so so but still..)

Who is most likely to assimilate / integrate and get on a tax paying jobs without seeking benefits? Immigrants who came on a student visa or one resettled from Afghanistan?

We all know what we are doing wink
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 2:58pm On Dec 21, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
15 year path to ILR
people will largely still stay
You wanna bet?

Which country is gonna absorb the legions of care workers?
How many of them can. even afford to move their families at this point ?
..And a lot will also leave after getting some money saved up for better countries.

Some will even take loans and abscond to their home country to set up grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 5:15pm On Dec 21, 2025
HustlaOfLagos:
A lot of stats can be found here - https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/dwp-benefits-statistics-august-2025/benefit-combinations-official-statistics-to-february-2025

I'd like to be non-working oooo for all the listed benefits and I'll vote for any gov that tries to implement this, especially the Asian ladies part grin wink
Interesting read. Quite harrowing too.
Funny thing is that migrants on a visa cannot access these benefits yet they're being blamed. One of the reasons I sometimes want Reform to win the next election. Lets see how they deal with cutting benefits of their voting base.


HustlaOfLagos:
After getting your legs blown off and you try to claim citizenship, they will remind you that being in the military isnt an excuse and that you have to wait for 20 more years.... and that you are a Nigerian... and they are doing you a favor

grin
Hehe... Afterall Saudi Arabia does not give migrants the privilege of dying in theur wars..
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 5:22pm On Dec 21, 2025
HustlaOfLagos:
What about the thousands who will not come with problems but instead proffer solutions? What if Elon Musk had come to the UK instead of the US? Will he have the same opportunities to scale or be hassled everyday and reminded he is a bloody immigrant?

.. And it is the job of the gov / people implementing those policies to educate the masses about the benefits of bringing in immigrants using a strong immigration policy instead of being more divisive. It will not help anyone in the long run.

We know the ones who will likely cause troubles but no one is bold enough to seek action against it except maybe Donald Trump (execution is so so but still..)

Who is most likely to assimilate / integrate and get on a tax paying jobs without seeking benefits? Immigrants who came on a student visa or one resettled from Afghanistan?

We all know what we are doing wink
the bolded is very very funny
Many of those guys "resettled" from Afghanistan have given more to Britain and America than some of the riff raffy students from Nigeria

Those were the ones who risked their lives fighting alongside nato troops against the Taliban
They worked as translators, infantry, spies, recon, you name it, sos that was the deal.
Taliban unfortunately has taken over, so they have to be resettled as per the deal

So before you sneer at those who came in under that settlement program, have that in mind that some of them have done what almost NO Nigerian who came under care visa/tier 4 have done for the country

#JustSaying
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 5:25pm On Dec 21, 2025
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 5:28pm On Dec 21, 2025
NewT123:
If this isn’t racism, I wonder what else is?
Interesting.. the current narrative has emboldened mane.

The term 'third world' is a slur these days. Reason why I shudder when Nigerians refer to themselves with that phrase
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ReesheesuKnack: 5:40pm On Dec 21, 2025
missjekyll:
Probably best to be completely sure before posting on this thread. People come here for information.
The government updated the guidance to make it much harder for landlords to blame tenants. The guidance makes it clear that ordinary use, including drying laundry, is not a cause of damp. (And I know this is correct because despite all my laundry being air dried indoors in winter, there is no damp in my house).

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications /damp-and-mould-understanding-and -addressing-the-health-risks-for-rented-housing -providers/understanding-and-addressing-the -health-risks-of-damp-and-mould-in-the-home --2#legal-standards-on-damp-and-mould-in

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Yipeeee!!!!
Look who is here, our dearest MissJekyll herself.
You are welcome (back).
Where have you been dear? We (oh well, I) have missed you on these streets.
Hope you were not affected by the removal of the non-dom thing by the current Labour Government?

I learned you are now paying very little tax since the labour govt decided to instead, ‘tax the life out’ of billionaires.

Welcome back.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 8:29pm On Dec 21, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
the bolded is very very funny
Many of those guys "resettled" from Afghanistan have given more to Britain and America than some of the riff raffy students from Nigeria

Those were the ones who risked their lives fighting alongside nato troops against the Taliban
They worked as translators, infantry, spies, recon, you name it, sos that was the deal.
Taliban unfortunately has taken over, so they have to be resettled as per the deal

So before you sneer at those who came in under that settlement program, have that in mind that some of them have done what almost NO Nigerian who came under care visa/tier 4 have done for the country

#JustSaying
I no fit talk anything pass to laugh. No further comment needed from me

cheesy
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 8:31pm On Dec 21, 2025
jedisco:
Interesting read. Quite harrowing too.
Funny thing is that migrants on a visa cannot access these benefits yet they're being blamed. One of the reasons I sometimes want Reform to win the next election. Lets see how they deal with cutting benefits of their voting base.





Hehe... Afterall Saudi Arabia does not give migrants the privilege of dying in theur wars..
They know what they are doing jare
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Fred2020: 8:31pm On Dec 21, 2025
Goke7:
Like one of us here said some time ago the exit of care workers from the sector after obtaining ilr is their greatest worry especially now that overseas workers entry has been banned reason for the threat of 15 year ilr qualification to keep folks in that sector for as long as possible.

Bigotry is terrible, makes you look stupid no matter how you spin it. How you do explain to your people you can’t even find prison workers? Farm workers, care workers, delivery riders thank God bus conductors no exist for this country shortage go dey for that one too 😂 even police officers too they are looking for while patriots sip their beer at home!
You said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp89p1x26kxo

Nigerians can be quite enterprising and resilient at navigating issues and have no issues comming together with a collective determine to addrwss issue. Not surprising its a sector dominated by Nigerians and Ghanaians that gets the waiver first.

The only place this doesnt happen is in nigeria itself and nairaland by extension
ChatGPT said:
Alright, let’s say it properly—and with a bit more bite 😄
I’ll give you a clean, polished rewrite, then the French version right after.

Refined version (English)
Nigerians are famously enterprising and remarkably resilient. When faced with obstacles, they rarely wait for permission—people organise, adapt, and push forward with collective determination. So it’s hardly surprising that the first sector to receive a waiver is one largely dominated by Nigerians and Ghanaians.

Ironically, this same level of coordination and problem-solving is often absent in Nigeria itself—Nairaland included. Abroad, the hustle is structured and effective; at home, it too often dissolves into noise, infighting, and endless debate. Same people, very different outcomes.

Version améliorée (Français)
Les Nigérians sont réputés pour leur esprit d’entreprise et leur remarquable résilience. Face aux difficultés, ils n’attendent pas qu’on leur ouvre la porte : ils s’organisent, s’adaptent et avancent avec une détermination collective. Il n’est donc pas surprenant que le premier secteur à bénéficier d’une dérogation soit largement dominé par des Nigérians et des Ghanéens.

Paradoxalement, cette même capacité à se coordonner et à résoudre les problèmes semble souvent absente au Nigeria même — Nairaland compris. À l’étranger, l’énergie est structurée et efficace ; sur place, elle se perd trop souvent dans le bruit, les divisions et les débats sans fin. Les mêmes personnes, mais des résultats très différents.

If you want it sharper, more sarcastic, or BBC-comment-section ready, say the word.

You said:
While they continue to look for the biggest stick to flog legal migrants with numbers dropping rapidly, people arriving illegaly who do not contibute to the system and are start as benefit-recipients from day 1 (with loads of them remaining on benefits even after they are granted asylum or doing cash-in-hand jobs paying little to no tax) are flocking in record numbers.

As predicted legal migrants reducing rapidly while illegal migration is rising rapidly

Ultimately, the political gimmicks of painting all migrants with the same brush will cost the country
ChatGPT said:
Alright, gloves off—but still sharp and coherent. Here’s a clean, assertive rewrite, followed by the French version.

Refined version (English)
While policymakers continue searching for the biggest stick with which to flog legal migrants—despite their numbers falling rapidly, illegal arrivals are increasing at record levels.

Many of those arriving illegally enter the system as benefit recipients from day one. A significant number remain on benefits even after being granted asylum, or drift into cash-in-hand work that contributes little to no tax revenue. The result is a system that penalises compliance while quietly accommodating non-compliance.

As predicted, legal migration is declining sharply, while illegal migration is rising just as fast.

In the end, the political gimmick of painting all migrants with the same brush won’t just fail, it will actively harm the country. Bad policy dressed up as toughness always sends the wrong signal to the wrong people.

Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 8:32pm On Dec 21, 2025
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Resurgent2016: 8:37pm On Dec 21, 2025
HustlaOfLagos:
..And a lot will also leave after getting some money saved up for better countries.

Some will even take loans and abscond to their home country to set up grin
In the end, the political gimmick of painting all migrants with the same brush won’t just fail it will actively harm the country. Bad policy dressed up as toughness always sends the wrong signal to the wrong people.

Legal migrants are looking away, illegal migrants are trooping in record numbers.

They start as benefit recipients on day 1 and many continue on benefits even after asylum is granted and mix it with cash-in-hand jobs on which no tax is paid.

HO probably already scouting for more hotels or hmo to house them.
What a shame!

Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 9:38pm On Dec 21, 2025
Resurgent2016:
In the end, the political gimmick of painting all migrants with the same brush won’t just fail it will actively harm the country. Bad policy dressed up as toughness always sends the wrong signal to the wrong people.

Legal migrants are looking away, illegal migrants are trooping in record numbers.

They start as benefit recipients on day 1 and many continue on benefits even after asylum is granted and mix it with cash-in-hand jobs on which no tax is paid.

HO probably already scouting for more hotels or hmo to house them.
What a shame!
😂 many of these folks even end up in the military where again there is shortage forget the noise they know what they are doing!
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 10:11pm On Dec 21, 2025
HustlaOfLagos:
I no fit talk anything pass to laugh. No further comment needed from me

cheesy
Go and do your research about those on the Afghan Settlememt program

That will be my parting message to you on this topic.
This is personal in a way because I have actually met one IN PERSON who used to translate for NATO forces is Kandahar or whatever that sheethole is called (something like that)

Those who know know and those who dont, dont
That's why I am very pissed with how Trump has treated the program on their own end

How many Nigerians are ready to risk their lives for this country in that manner?

Well sha, make i no talk pass i don talk
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by RodgersAkpafu: 10:14pm On Dec 21, 2025
Resurgent2016:
In the end, the political gimmick of painting all migrants with the same brush won’t just fail it will actively harm the country. Bad policy dressed up as toughness always sends the wrong signal to the wrong people.

Legal migrants are looking away, illegal migrants are trooping in record numbers.

They start as benefit recipients on day 1 and many continue on benefits even after asylum is granted and mix it with cash-in-hand jobs on which no tax is paid.

HO probably already scouting for more hotels or hmo to house them.
What a shame!
This mess wont be happening if Britain was still in tbe EU though
This is another ramifications of the (bad) decision they took 10 years ago
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 5:10am On Dec 22, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
.This is more of need and self interest of the justice dept, not really about "organising"
Whatever the intention is, what matters is that "Nigerians" are singled out to be adding value and useful to the society. That's a good win for this community, thanks to those working in UK prisons. God bless you.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 10:58am On Dec 22, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
Go and do your research about those on the Afghan Settlememt program

That will be my parting message to you on this topic.
This is personal in a way because I have actually met one IN PERSON who used to translate for NATO forces is Kandahar or whatever that sheethole is called (something like that)

Those who know know and those who dont, dont
That's why I am very pissed with how Trump has treated the program on their own end

How many Nigerians are ready to risk their lives for this country in that manner?

Well sha, make i no talk pass i don talk
I should go and do research on something that formed part of the basis for recommending quick MS Purview DLP implementation for where I work several months ago?
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/data-incident-affecting-applicants-to-the-afghan-relocations-and-assistance-policy-scheme-and-afghanistan-locally-employed-staff-ex-gratia-scheme

Is that not interesting? cheesy

You should know that I do not speak on topics I know nothing about which is why you will never catch me discussing things like crypto. Before I put anything out there, be assured that gov links and reputable sources have been checked which is why I always add links as evidence to avoid cho cho cho.

I am not speaking on what Afghans did or did not do. The simple ask is --->

50,000 Afghans
50, 000 Somalis
50,000 Nigerians on a student visa

- Which group is more likely to contribute, integrate and get on tax paying jobs without seeking benefits?
- Which group is most likely to disrupt the British way of life, create segregated communities, refuse to learn the language and demand Sharia (the exact opposite of the British religion) in their communities?

Hint: One of them even has a gang based off them wink - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_Boys
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 11:08am On Dec 22, 2025
Resurgent2016:
In the end, the political gimmick of painting all migrants with the same brush won’t just fail it will actively harm the country. Bad policy dressed up as toughness always sends the wrong signal to the wrong people.

Legal migrants are looking away, illegal migrants are trooping in record numbers.

They start as benefit recipients on day 1 and many continue on benefits even after asylum is granted and mix it with cash-in-hand jobs on which no tax is paid.

HO probably already scouting for more hotels or hmo to house them.
What a shame!
cheesy

I think they stopped the hotel thing and asylum to ILR will now be 20 years. They also seem to be bursting those delivery guys who do cash in hand stuff / illegally so some effort on the part of the gov there

I still think legal immigrants should be supported more and encouraged except they actually do not want legal immigration or someone somewhere is benefiting from the illegal one
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Resurgent2016: 11:14am On Dec 22, 2025
HustlaOfLagos:
cheesy

I think they stopped the hotel thing and asylum to ILR will now be 20 years. They also seem to be bursting those delivery guys who do cash in hand stuff / illegally so some effort on the part of the gov there

I still think legal immigrants should be supported more and encouraged except they actually do not want legal immigration or someone somewhere is benefiting from the illegal one
20 years on benefits is not a bad deal for many coming in illegally.

Many also top it up with cash in hand.

Many of them English proficiency and educational qualification/skill would not have gotten them a job paying higher than minimum wage, so being on benefits from day 1 is not a bad deal.

If they like they make it 50years, doesnt mean much to these guys.

The ones bothered are those who paid £15-30k for an MSc, paying yearly IHS fee, playing by the rule but yet struggling to find good paying jobs because of the way the work sposnsorship system works.

For these ones, extending their ordeal from 5 years to 10 years is a big deal.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 11:24am On Dec 22, 2025
Resurgent2016:
20 years on benefits is not a bad deal for many coming in illegally.

Many also top it up with cash in hand.

Many of them English proficiency and educational qualification/skill would not have gotten them a job paying higher than minimum wage, so being on benefits from day 1 is not a bad deal.

If they like they make it 50years, doesnt mean much to these guys.

The ones bothered are those who paid £15-30k for an MSc, paying yearly IHS fee, playing by the rule but yet struggling to find good paying jobs because of the way the work sposnsorship system works.

For these ones, extending their ordeal from 5 years to 10 years is a big deal.
Well, the legal ones will have to find a way to weather the storm and get good paying jobs which is going to even be more difficult given than PSW is now 16 months and sponsorship rules are tightening and ever changing.

This is why anyone coming in legally will do well to have a solid Plan B before hoping on the plane to come as even the healthcare route which used to help is likely going to face tighter measures by Feb 2026.

This could include just hustling for 1yr 6 months, packing all the money back to 9ja to invest or making sure to grad with good grades and porting to a better country on PR.

smiley

Side question: Do they actually get benefits from Day 1 or the media is contributing to drive this narrative?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 11:29am On Dec 22, 2025
ehizario2012:
Whatever the intention is, what matters is that "Nigerians" are singled out to be adding value and useful to the society. That's a good win for this community, thanks to those working in UK prisons. God bless you.
Well said 💯
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 11:36am On Dec 22, 2025
HustlaOfLagos:
cheesy

I think they stopped the hotel thing and asylum to ILR will now be 20 years. They also seem to be bursting those delivery guys who do cash in hand stuff / illegally so some effort on the part of the gov there

I still think legal immigrants should be supported more and encouraged except they actually do not want legal immigration or someone somewhere is benefiting from the illegal one
You legal ones are their major headache as you are the ones making it more competitive for the locals. That’s what all the noise is all about. The media and politicians masks it to make it look as if it’s about the illegal migration but like I always say the legal ones will always pay the price. An illegal migrant like someone has said don’t mind waiting 50 years to get ilr.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Resurgent2016: 11:55am On Dec 22, 2025
HustlaOfLagos:
Well, the legal ones will have to find a way to weather the storm and get good paying jobs which is going to even be more difficult given than PSW is now 16 months and sponsorship rules are tightening and ever changing.

This is why anyone coming in legally will do well to have a solid Plan B before hoping on the plane to come as even the healthcare route which used to help is likely going to face tighter measures by Feb 2026.

This could include just hustling for 1yr 6 months, packing all the money back to 9ja to invest or making sure to grad with good grades and porting to a better country on PR.

smiley

Side question: Do they actually get benefits from Day 1 or the media is contributing to drive this narrative?
About £10 a week for pocket money but HO carters for their basic needs - healthcare, accomodation, utilises and feeding. They also get legal aid to support their asylum application.

Once asylum granted, they are entitled to any benefit a british citizen is entitled to.

A large number of asylum claimants stay on benefits because they do not have the relevant education/skill and language proficency for higher paying jobs.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 12:40pm On Dec 22, 2025
Resurgent2016:
About £10 a week for pocket money but HO carters for their basic needs - healthcare, accomodation, utilises and feeding. They also get legal aid to support their asylum application.

Once asylum granted, they are entitled to any benefit a british citizen is entitled to.

A large number of asylum claimants stay on benefits because they do not have the relevant education/skill and language proficency for higher paying jobs.
That's not a bad deal at all at the end of the day + cash in hand jobs

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