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Dtruthspeaker:
Ezekiel 20:11
I gave them My statutes and informed them of My ordinances, by which, if a man observes them, he will live.

Nehemiah 9:29
And admonished them in order to turn them back to Your law.
Yet they acted arrogantly and did not listen to Your commandments but sinned against Your ordinances,
By which if a man observes them he shall live.
And they turned a stubborn shoulder and stiffened their neck, and would not listen.

What your point

Dtruthspeaker:
Is your quote not saying that yes, The Alpha and Omega did die but lived again?

I explained up

Dtruthspeaker:
It is you pretending not to see what is written. To test your sight and understanding point out the sins God held against these people?

GOD did not hold any sin against them but God show us that they all sinned

Should show you the sin of David lol etc should should you all their sin

Yet because God loves them he forgets and forgive them

Kingsnairaland:
I explained up

This was for the guy you are arguing against

Dtruthspeaker:
You Catholics misunderstand Trinity for A Person cannot be 3 Persons.

Rather Trinity is about seamless cooperation between 3 Authorities like 3 tiers of government.

Especially if you also remember that Jesus is also known as The BRANCH.

A Branch is certainly not the Tree

Am telling you the definition your talking nonsense

How can you learn when you refuse to listen

Human being is trinity you are trinity

I am

Three person make you to be complete

That is you a soul body spirit

If you like continue to argue with yourself

Don't believe

At the end is jesus that will judge you and cast you out for not accepting him as your God

Dtruthspeaker:
Enoch, Noah, Daniel, job.

Then others include David's first ways, Hezekiah's first ways, Samuel, Moses, the prophets, Joseph Mary's (husband), Joseph of Arimathea

Enoch, Noah, Daniel, job.

All these people were born in sin

Bible said in sin my mom conceive me

Bible said for all have sinned

All including them

Bible said the heart of men is wicked including them because they are a man

That why jesus was born pure sinless was born by a virgin

Jesus blood was is pure other men you list above there mom was not a virgin where they were born

Kingsnairaland:
GOD did not hold any sin against them but God show us that they all sinned

Should show you the sin of David lol etc should should you all their sin

Yet because God loves them he forgets and forgive them

If you appreciate that God did not hold any sin against them, then you can not say that they sinned.

And this is where you now appreciate the value of Romans 4:8
Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

David almost did not make it, if not that he indeed was truly the wisest man. And go and check it, the valuable part relevant to this discussion is what God called the "first ways of David. Which clearly tells us that David had it right in the beginning just like the others

Kingsnairaland:
Enoch, Noah, Daniel, job.

All these people were born in sin

Bible said in sin my mom conceive me

Bible said for all have sinned

All including them

Bible said the heart of men is wicked including them because they are a man

That why jesus was born pure sinless was born by a virgin

Jesus blood was is pure other men you list above there mom was not a virgin where they were born

And where did you see God convict a person for being guilty just because he was born?

Name one person who did not do anything wrong yet God convicted him.

Dtruthspeaker:
This is not true, even John confirmed that The Law is not hard to keep

Key Biblical Context & Meaning
1 John 5:3 (KJV): "For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous".

Not Burdensome: "Grievous" means heavy, oppressive, or hard to bear. The verse suggests that for a believer, following God's instructions isn't a crushing load but a joyful expression of love for Him,

non of those people were sinless only Jesus christ is sinless.

Steep:
non of those people were sinless only Jesus christ is sinless.

As I asked Kings, can you
point out the sins God held against these people?

Kingsnairaland:
Am telling you the definition your talking nonsense

How can you learn when you refuse to listen

Human being is trinity you are trinity

I am

Three person make you to be complete

That is you a soul body spirit

If you like continue to argue with yourself

Don't believe

At the end is jesus that will judge you and cast you out for not accepting him as your God

It is you who refuses to listen and think especially as you want to pretend as if you don't know that we have already heard your Catholic stands on this matter, and yet every reasonable person has felt that it is not entirely True.

For look at your argument, you say human being is trinity, yet when we all are dealing with him we are all thinking only 1 Person which is "human being."

Meanwhile, Trinity points out 3 distinct and separate Persons.

So, it does not stand. And your running away from the argument proves that even you can see that you can not defend it because it is falls and weak, exactly how you all run away from the accusation of worshipping Mary.

Meanwhile Truth is always an unbreakable Rock. If anything Truth gets stronger the more you attack it. So, it is you who has to learn if you truly wish to

Kingsnairaland:
That is what Bible has been saying to those that want to know jesus

Every thing the father can do jesus can do it

Only those who know God during the old times can be given eternal life

And in this new dispensation only those who know jesus can have eternal life

Explain John 14:28 below.

King James Bible
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

Kingsnairaland:
What your point

My point is these verses prove that obeying The Law, saves a soul.

Kingsnairaland:
Yes because
GOD
Is three in one being

What made God to be God is that he is a
Father
Son
spirit

That is how he made us the same three in one

What made man to be man is we are
A soul
A body
A spirit

GOD as a son can die because bible said jesus is the express image of God
He is God in flesh and as that he can die once

And never die again

So you're saying that the son can die but the father cannot die? If yes, does that mean that the father is greater than the son?

Where does the Bible teach that man is divided into three seperate entity?
In Genesis 2:7, did God put soul in man?

Dtruthspeaker:
Is your quote not saying that yes, The Alpha and Omega did die but lived again?

lol...so when Alpha and Omega died, Who resurrected Alpha and Omega?

Does the Father also bear Alpha and Omega? If yes, where does the Bible say so?

Truthseeker10:
lol...so when Alpha and Omega died, Who resurrected Alpha and Omega?

Did you not hear Alpha and Omega Say that in Him is Life and Life Eternal and that all things were made by Him?

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you not hear Alpha and Omega Say that in Him is Life and Life Eternal and that all things were made by Him?

So when he died, who gave Alpha and Omega life again?

Does the Father also bear Alpha and Omega? If yes, where does the Bible say so?

Truthseeker10:
So when he died, who gave Alpha and Omega life again?

If I have Life and Life Eternal, do I need anyone to give me Life when I already have it?

Or as Dangote owns a refinery if one tanker of petrol burns, does he need Conoil to give him petrol to live?

Dtruthspeaker:
If I have Life and Life Eternal, do I need anyone to give me Life when I already have it?

Lol....so you mean no one gave Alpha and Omega life when he died? No one resurrected him?

Why are you avoiding the other question below.

Does the Father also bear Alpha and Omega? If yes, where does the Bible say so?

Truthseeker10:
Lol....so you mean no one gave Alpha and Omega life when he died? No one resurrected him?

Did you not hear Alpha and Omega Say that in Him is Life and Life Eternal and that all things were made by Him?

Truthseeker10:
Why are you avoiding the other question below.

Does the Father also bear Alpha and Omega? If yes, where does the Bible say so?

Because I want to concentrate on answering completely the first question you asked.

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you not hear Alpha and Omega Say that in Him is Life and Life Eternal and that all things were made by Him?



Because I want to concentrate on answering completely the first question you asked.

So no one gave alpha and Omega life when he died and no one resurrected him according to your statement above in bold?

Truthseeker10:
So no one gave alpha and Omega life when he died and no one resurrected him according to your statement above in bold?

Did you not hear Alpha and Omega Say that in Him is Life and Life Eternal and that all things were made by Him?

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you not hear Alpha and Omega Say that in Him is Life and Life Eternal and that all things were made by Him?

Lol...ok
Explain Galatians 1:1.

1Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead)

If Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, who raised him up from the dead according to the verse above?

Below is John 5:26.

26For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

If Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, who gave him life according to the verse above?

Truthseeker10:
Lol...ok..

I am ok, with your ok, so my case is settled.

Dtruthspeaker:
I am ok, with your ok, so my case is settled.

🤣🤣🤣Baba don run....bye bye

Dtruthspeaker:
And where did you see God convict a person for being guilty just because he was born?

Name one person who did not do anything wrong yet God convicted him.

GOD already convicted the whole world of sin that why he came down to save the world world

For God so loved the world that he gave..... For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life,"

He gave the whole world his son to save the whole world

If God did not convict the whole world
Then he could have said he gave part of the world he convict of sin his son

But because he already convicted the whole world as sin full that why he saved the world

Dude you don't get the bigger picture the scheme of God plan you don't understand it that why you make mistakes in scripture

Lol

Once Adam sin against God God declare all have sinned

Because we are all inside Adam when Adam sinned

Kingsnairaland:
GOD already convicted the whole world of sin that why he came down to save the world world..

Is it that the world did not do the wrong things yet he convicted them? Or do you want to say that you are not aware that the world was did wickednesses, murders, adulteries, fornications, idolatries, stealings etc?

Dtruthspeaker:
And where did you see God convict a person for being guilty just because he was born?

Name one person who did not do anything wrong yet God convicted him.

The Bible verse "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" is found in
Romans 3:23

For all have sinned it in the Bible all means Enoch too and all you list

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣Baba don run....bye bye

Na you won change the argument wey dey ground since you see say e dey hook you.

Steep:
non of those people were sinless only Jesus christ is sinless.

He does not understand it he is waiting for God to tell him their particular sin before he beliefs they have sinned

Dtruthspeaker:
As I asked Kings, can you
point out the sins God held against these people?

GOD said all have sinned why should you be looking for the sin they have done it shows you don't respect God when he said all have sinned

Kingsnairaland:
The Bible verse "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" is found in
Romans 3:23

For all have sinned it in the Bible all means Enoch too and all you list

How did they sin? Is it not that they did Romans 1
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.?

Or are you saying the whole world have not been doing these things?