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Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by Janosky: 12:27am On Dec 30, 2025
Okhuadams:
This pple have helped in killing most of their member's they should be arrested, and old friend lost his sister to This foolish believe, the siblings insisted for proper treatment but the father/mother and the rest of the foolish members Said know. But some do it secretly
What is your business with an adult expressing his or her fundamental rights to chose the form of treatment they prefer?

Are you even listening to yourself?

Do unto others what you want them to do unto you.


Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by TenQ: 12:35am On Dec 30, 2025
Janosky:
Luke 16:19-31
New Living Translation
Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus
19 Jesus said, “There was a certain rich man who was splendidly clothed in purple and fine linen and who lived each day in luxury. 20 At his gate lay a poor man named Lazarus who was covered with sores
. 21 As Lazarus lay there longing for scraps from the rich man’s table, the dogs would come and lick his open sores


Oga, Jesus spoke a parable not a real life occurrence.
Lazarus did not see or speak to Abraham in real life.
Bibles with subheadings listed it as Parable of Lazarus & rich man...
Jesus spoke a parable about 5 wise virgins & 5 unwise virgins.

Did any Jewish King marry 5 wise virgins & reject 5 unwise virgins in real life?
No.

Romans 8:3 & 1 Peter 3:18-19.
Jesus was a spirit being born on earth as a man .
He died & God raised up His Son to life back again as spirit being.

Please understand your Bible & learn more.

God bless.
So, Luke wrote that it was a parable!?

What was the purpose of the parable of Jesus since hell and life after physical death doesn't exist?
Please be detailed!


Jesus at death preaching! How? As according to your doctrine Jesus should be in a state of unconsciousness! Explain!
Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by Emusan(m): 8:29am On Dec 30, 2025
Janosky:
The same disease resulted in the loss of two women who opted for their choice of treatment.

I don't know what your problem is.
grin cheesy grin
Which means bloodless treatment isn't meant for all treatment as you people always claim in other to talk down on blood transfusion.

You see the problem now.
Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by Emusan(m): 8:32am On Dec 30, 2025
Janosky:
What is your business with an adult expressing his or her fundamental rights to chose the form of treatment they prefer?
His business with such and adult is because he knew such adult was brainwashed to have making a wrong choice.

Just as you have business with an adult who chooses to commit suicide.

Are you even listening to yourself?
Do you always listen to your own self?

Do unto others what you want them to do unto you.
Have you ever applied this to yourself?
Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:23am On Dec 30, 2025
Janosky:

No mind their ignorance.
They can't hide their bad belle
They want their fundamental rights to be respected but they gleefully disrespect the rights of others.
It's cancer case nah.

Less than 5% do survive it so whoever is disturbing his or her brain regarding someone who dies due to cancer is just joking jàre!🙂
Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 3:14pm On Dec 30, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
It's cancer case nah.

Less than 5% do survive it so whoever is disturbing his or her brain regarding someone who dies due to cancer is just joking jàre!🙂
Liar liar,pants on fire.
Who said less than 5% survive cancer
Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:27pm On Dec 30, 2025
jaephoenix:
Liar liar,pants on fire.
Who said less than 5% survive cancer.
jaephoenix:
Bro, maybe I'll stop debating with you. You don't answer questions, but instead deflect it to answer a different question.
🤔
Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 9:10pm On Dec 30, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
🤔
You bring this post up whenever you don't have answers. But you were quoting me in the other thread
Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:21pm On Dec 30, 2025
jaephoenix:
You bring this post up whenever you don't have answers. But you were quoting me in the other thread
jaephoenix:
Bro, maybe I'll stop debating with you. You don't answer questions, but instead deflect it to answer a different question.
Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by writeprof(m): 9:36pm On Dec 30, 2025
Janosky:
Oga, educate yourself beyond viewing posts on Nairaland.
Or
Stick to your false claims & ignorance.

Biko,grow up .
It's well with you huh
Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by MaxInDHouse(m):
writeprof:
It's well with youhuh
You people need to educate yourselves.

If she wants to die as you insinuated then why going to the hospital in the first place?

Medically it's unlawful to administer any form of treatment that's not approved by the patient because he or she knows better about his body than any physician!
Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by katman9x(m): 12:41pm On Jan 01
Who cares? I don't. She's an adult and knew the consequences. We should ask be happy for her. She died for her faith and that's lovely
Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 7:34pm On Jan 01
MaxInDHouse:
You people need to educate yourselves.

If she wants to die as you insinuated then why going to the hospital in the first place?

Medically it's unlawful to administer any form of treatment that's not approved by the patient because he or she knows better about his body that any physician!
You're wrong.
We don't give medications or intervene in patients who don't approve because it's against their freedom and human rights. It's not cos they know about their bodies. The physician knows about your body more than you. If a patient declines life saving interventions,it's their business. We explain the consequences,document and tell them to come back if they change their minds
Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by Janosky: 8:43pm On Jan 01
jaephoenix:
You're wrong.
We don't give medications or intervene in patients who don't approve because it's against their freedom and human rights. It's not cos they know about their bodies. The physician knows about your body more than you. If a patient declines life saving interventions,it's their business. We explain the consequences,document and tell them to come back if they change their minds
The interventions wey no save Ananda Lewis & Nollywood celebrities wey get the same disease.
Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by Janosky: 8:48pm On Jan 01
Emusan:
His business with such and adult is because he knew such adult was brainwashed to have making a wrong choice.

Just as you have business with an adult who chooses to commit suicide.

Do you always listen to your own self?



Have you ever applied this to yourself?
You wey no brainwashed, go change the laws wey guide the law & medical practice worldwide.

Isi aku.

cheesy
Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by Emusan(m): 9:20pm On Jan 01
Janosky:
You wey no brainwashed, go change the laws wey guide the law & medical practice worldwide.

Isi aku.

cheesy
Which law?
Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:00pm On Jan 01
jaephoenix:
You're wrong.
We don't give medications or intervene in patients who don't approve because it's against their freedom and human rights. It's not cos they know about their bodies. The physician knows about your body more than you. If a patient declines life saving interventions,it's their business. We explain the consequences,document and tell them to come back if they change their minds
jaephoenix:
Bro, maybe I'll stop debating with you. You don't answer questions, but instead deflect it to answer a different question.
smiley
Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:02pm On Jan 01
Janosky:
The interventions wey no save Ananda Lewis & Nollywood celebrities wey get the same disease.
If they choose to deceive themselves it's better to allow them jàre!🙂

Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 6:23am On Jan 02
Janosky:
The interventions wey no save Ananda Lewis & Nollywood celebrities wey get the same disease.
I don't know Ananda Lewis but I checked her out. She died of stage 4 breast ca. Stage 4 breast ca is terminal. No doctor would save you from that AND WE HAVE NEVER CLAIMED TO SAVE ANYONE FROM TERMINAL CANCER: THATS WHY ITS CALLED TERMINAL IN THE FIRST PLACE. It means it's spread to target organs,which in this case is the liver. We give palliative management and tell you ahead of time how long you've got. If she came in stage 1 or even 2,cure would be around 90%. My own mom had breast ca. She has done surgery,radio and chemo and she's good now. Same with other folks that present early. That's why we hammer on early detection. So stop capping lubbissh. You don't point to few outliers and decide to commit suicide (which is what your member did)
Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by Janosky: 11:18am On Jan 02
jaephoenix:
I don't know Ananda Lewis but I checked her out. She died of stage 4 breast ca. Stage 4 breast ca is terminal. No doctor would save you from that AND WE HAVE NEVER CLAIMED TO SAVE ANYONE FROM TERMINAL CANCER: THATS WHY ITS CALLED TERMINAL IN THE FIRST PLACE. It means it's spread to target organs,which in this case is the liver. We give palliative management and tell you ahead of time how long you've got. If she came in stage 1 or even 2,cure would be around 90%. My own mom had breast ca. She has done surgery,radio and chemo and she's good now. Same with other folks that present early.
Aunty E case was not detected early unlike your mom's.
Linda McCartney, Kelly Preston , Ananda Lewis had similar challenges too (non JWs),but your preferred option of treatment didn't save them.
Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by Janosky: 11:30am On Jan 02
jaephoenix:
I Same with other folks that present early. That's why we hammer on early detection. So stop capping lubbissh. You don't point to few outliers and decide to commit suicide (which is what your member did).
Screenshot evidence.
Did the medical team recommended 2 options the lady exercised her right to chose from?
Yes.

Did the medical team make the claim you are making in public?
No.

You are claiming to be a medical professional and at the sametime opposing the fundamental rights of an adult to choose the option of treatment they prefer.

Your public opposition to the ethics of your profession speaks volumes.

Isi aku.
grin grin cheesy

Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by Janosky: 11:35am On Jan 02
MaxInDHouse:
If they choose to deceive themselves it's better to allow them jàre!🙂
The same people wey want their rights to be protected and respected by Law are WAILING their disrespect for the rights of Aunty E & all JWs as well as people who refuse B.T.

Na wa !!!!!!!
Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:32pm On Jan 02
Janosky:
Aunty E case was not detected early unlike your mom's.
Linda McCartney, Kelly Preston , Ananda Lewis had similar challenges too (non JWs),but your preferred option of treatment didn't save them.
Don't waste your time on this atheist!🙂

Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 12:49pm On Jan 02
Janosky:
Aunty E case was not detected early unlike your mom's.
Linda McCartney, Kelly Preston , Ananda Lewis had similar challenges too (non JWs),but your preferred option of treatment didn't save them.
1. I don't know much about your Aunty E but from what I garner she has stage 2 breast ca. Now with stage 2,there is hope even though it's not as high as stage 1. And the fact that she was offered blood transfusion means she wasn't on palliative,thus the transfusion would increase her chance. You don't transfuse a palliative case,it's pointless. So yes,your Aunty E stood a very good chance of beating the ca.
The other names you listed had late stage cancer and thus almost nil chances of survival.
No matter how you and your ilk twist this narrative, that woman killed herself. She refused help. It may help you by researching how medicine has helped folks with stage 2 breast ca
Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 1:04pm On Jan 02
Janosky:
Screenshot evidence.
Did the medical team recommended 2 options the lady exercised her right to chose from?
Yes.

Did the medical team make the claim you are making in public?
No.

You are claiming to be a medical professional and at the sametime opposing the fundamental rights of an adult to choose the option of treatment they prefer.

Your public opposition to the ethics of your profession speaks volumes.

Isi aku.
grin grin cheesy
We give the second option in cases of JWs,and it's not better. See,in medicine, we dont force patients. A straight blood transfusion is the better option since it replenishes the blood lost from the cancer and other co-morbidities. The recovery is more dramatic. The second option is epo injections which is given over weeks and works slower. Epo injections work slowly over weeks by stimulating organs to produce blood cells. It's not as effective as direct blood transfusion.Now if she has heart failure due to her anemia,this option isn't the best for her,but we'll still give her this option.The patient may even die from heart failure due to the anemia (which is what I think happened to your sweet Aunty) but there is nothing we can do about it cos it's her choice.
SO THE BEST OPTION WAS TO TAKE THE BLOOD
It's the same option we'll give someone who is bleeding profusely and refuses to take blood. We'll give colloids and epo and hope the patient makes it.
I'm taking my time to explain this scenario not for you(cos I know you JW guys are lost cases) but others who are thinking of joining you guys
Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 1:05pm On Jan 02
Janosky:
The same people wey want their rights to be protected and respected by Law are WAILING their disrespect for the rights of Aunty E & all JWs as well as people who refuse B.T.

Na wa !!!!!!!
We respect rights in medicine,reason why we won't force you to take blood. If you die from your choice,....its your choice. You chose suicide
Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by Janosky: 4:29pm On Jan 02
jaephoenix:
We respect rights in medicine,reason why we won't force you to take blood. If you die from your choice,....its your choice. You chose suicide
Is that the opinion of the medical team or jaephoenix biased opinion?
Did the ethics (in screenshot (you pretend to uphold) support your opinion?
You proven you don't respect the preferred choice of your patients.
Oga,stop deceiving yourself.

Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by Janosky: 4:49pm On Jan 02
jaephoenix:
1. I don't know much about your Aunty E but from what I garner she has stage 2 breast ca. Now with stage 2,there is hope even though it's not as high as stage 1. And the fact that she was offered blood transfusion means she wasn't on palliative,thus the transfusion would increase her chance. You don't transfuse a palliative case,it's pointless. So yes,your Aunty E stood a very good chance of beating the ca.
The other names you listed had late stage cancer and thus almost nil chances of survival.
No matter how you and your ilk twist this narrative, that woman killed herself. She refused help. It may help you by researching how medicine has helped folks with stage 2 breast ca
By chosen from options recommended by medical profession and enshrined in law.
An adult chose what you recommend & you say nah "suic.de."
Oga,are you even listening to yourself?
If you read about the individuals, there's initially was not late stage, (dem dey do check up more & get modern facilities sef) they were not JW's & would undertake whatever their medical team proposes.
Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 6:00pm On Jan 02
Janosky:
Is that the opinion of the medical team or jaephoenix biased opinion?
Did the ethics (in screenshot (you pretend to uphold) support your opinion?
You proven you don't respect the preferred choice of your patients.
Oga,stop deceiving yourself.
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I clearly stated in my post that we respect patient rights and we won't give anyone that declines blood transfusion any blood.
I don't know if you are a JW generated bot or a real person. If you are the former,your dev is doing a bad job. If the later, either u r just a poor troll or u can't read basic English (which is a characteristic of JW I see here)
Re: Aunty Esther Dies After Cancer Battle & Refusing Blood Transfusion by Emusan(m): 6:30pm On Jan 02
Janosky:
By chosen from options recommended by medical profession and enshrined in law.
An adult chose what you recommend & you say nah "suic.de."
Oga,are you even listening to yourself?
If you read about the individuals, there's initially was not late stage, (dem dey do check up more & get modern facilities sef) they were not JW's & would undertake whatever their medical team proposes.
I know you people will later come here to twist the narration.

I know you don't even care about her just as her Husband & Hall members don't but because since she has the tag Jws you quickly want to do that damage control.

Immediately the crowd funded was done and over ₦30m was raised but the her husband and Hall members begin to open eyes because of money to the extent that Aunty Esther was telling the care supporter to lie to the public.

Left for Aunty Esther she would've gone for the blood transfusion but it was her husband and the hall members who kept deceiving her to reject it and even planning with the care supporter to move the money into Private account (either her husband or organization account) if not that the people behind the donation are not greedy and are plain. The issue won't have gone viral and generate much outcry.

Lastly, this issue has been on like almost from the beginning of 2025, and the issue escalated early December.

The right question an honest person will ask will be: why did she die within short period shortly after the care supporter withdrew?

Following what transpired within one month to end of her life, one can deduce that, the sister decided to gave up probably when she has seen how her husband and Hall members betrayed her just because of money.
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