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Kingsnairaland:
So in revelation the 24, elders were worship angel jesus

And Thomas was worshipping angel jesus

You truly are lost


John 10:33 ►
“We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”

New Living Translation
They replied, “We’re stoning you not for any good work, but for blasphemy! You, a mere man, claim to be God.”

Why did they not say we want to stone you for claiming angel

Oga, stop deceiving yourself .
The Greek word @ John 10:33 is the same Greek word @Psalms 82:6, Acts 28:6 ,2 Cor 4:4, 1 Cor 8:5 "god".
Screenshot evidences.
Trinitarians changed it to capitalized 'G'. Wrong indeed.

“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life" John 3:16

Continue deceiving yourself with your Trinity Jesus said i should believe God's Son to have everlasting life.

Kingsnairaland:
So in revelation the 24, elders were worship angel jesus
And Thomas was worshipping angel jesus. You truly are lost
John 10:33 ►
“We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”
New Living Translation
They replied, “We’re stoning you not for any good work, but for blasphemy! You, a mere man, claim to be God.”
Why did they not say we want to stone you for claiming angel

Truthseeker10:
Oga....if you claim that Jesus said "I am" to mean he is God almighty in John 8:58, kindly tell us the Greek word for "I AM" in that verse so that we can compare it with the Greek septuagint of Exodus 3:14.

The Greek phrase Jesus used for "I AM," especially in the Gospel of John, is ἐγώ εἰμί (ego eimi), meaning " I am " or "It is I ,"
an emphatic statement pointing to his divine identity, directly echoing God's self-revelation to Moses in
Exodus 3:14 ("I AM WHO I AM" ) and linking Jesus to the eternal name of God (Yahweh).

The children of Israel are very intelligent if jesus was saying that I am an angel to them they don't consider that blasphemy

It was only because they know jesus was a man and now claiming to be God almighty that why the Bible said they considered it blasphemy

Read your bible to see it

Kingsnairaland:
The Greek phrase Jesus used for "I AM," especially in the Gospel of John, is ἐγώ εἰμί (ego eimi), meaning " I am " or "It is I ,"
an emphatic statement pointing to his divine identity, directly echoing God's self-revelation to Moses in
Exodus 3:14 ("I AM WHO I AM" ) and linking Jesus to the eternal name of God (Yahweh).

The children of Israel are very intelligent if jesus was saying that I am an angel to them they don't consider that blasphemy

It was only because they know jesus was a man and now claiming to be God almighty that why the Bible said they considered it blasphemy

Read your bible to see it

Good....so in the Greek septuagint of Exodus 3:14, what Greek word was used for "I AM"?

Is it only Jesus that used "Ego eimi" in the New Testament?

Truthseeker10:
Is Adam's brain not part of his body?

So you're now saying again that it is not Jesus that gives eternal life, it is now the Holy Spirit after telling us that Jesus is the "live-giving spirit" from heaven?
Oga it seems that you are confused. Is it Jesus that Is the "life-giving Spirit" or it is the Holy spirit that is the "life-giving Spirit"?

That is why I want to cool down to write the write up for you but let me summarise it for you

There is a being called
God almighty

God almighty shows us he is
God the Father
God the son
God the holy spirit

When he comes as God the Father he is still God almighty
When he comes as God the son he is still God almighty
When he comes as God the Holy spirit he is still God almighty

Now the special job of God the Father is he is the one who makes decisions and speaks

The special job of God the son is he is the one who do the physical work and only him can appear as a man

The special job of God the holy spirit is only him can be every where at the same time and only him gives life and powers

If you hear that God the Father is building the earth it is actually jesus that is doing it

If you hear that Jesus is talking or speaking it is actually God the Father living inside him that is doing the talking and speaking

If you hear that Jesus is giving eternal life it is actually the holy spirit living in jesus that is giving that thing

If you hear that God almighty is in example in London and in Lagos at the same time it is holy spirit that uses the appearance of jesus to appear like that

If you want to see God almighty it jesus that you will see

That is why when accept jesus as your lord God he lives in you and gives you eternal life immediately

Receiving the holy spirit is to receive power....
Jesus gives eternal life because it is the Holy spirit of jesus that lives in you

Jesus wants you to have powers and not only eternal life

That why jesus said you will only get powers when the holy spirit comes upon you

And if you see the holy spirit talking it is actually God the Father talking

They are so united that why they are one being in three dimensions

Truthseeker10:
Good....so in the Greek septuagint of Exodus 3:14, what Greek word was used for "I AM"?

Is it only Jesus that used "Ego eimi" in the New Testament?

Dude exodus was written in Hebrew not in Greek lol

If you are reading Greek exodus then you will be confused lol

Janosky:
The Jews did not say that.
Matt 26:63-65. John 5:18-19. John 19:7.
Oga,go & confirm this in your Bible.
Pls stop deceiving yourself.
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John 10:33 ►
“We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”

New Living Translation
They replied, “We’re stoning you not for any good work, but for blasphemy! You, a mere man, claim to be God.”

Janosky:
No Sir.
Your own AI screenshot says :
The Hebrews right word is "I WILL BE what I WILL BE" @ Exodus 3:12,14.
Use king James bible dictionary & confirm " I AM" is false.
See the KJV dictionary screenshot, "I Will BE" is correct.

Perverted bible user that why you can't understand the things of God...
Google how many times your jw founder have lied that he knows when Jesus is going to come

Janosky:
No Sir.
Your own AI screenshot says :
The Hebrews right word is "I WILL BE what I WILL BE" @ Exodus 3:12,14.
Use king James bible dictionary & confirm " I AM" is false.
See the KJV dictionary screenshot, "I Will BE" is correct.

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Yes, Charles Taze Russell, the founder of the Bible Student movement (from which the Jehovah's Witnesses later emerged), made specific calculations about when Jesus' second coming (or "presence" would occur.
1874 (Invisible Return): Russell initially taught that Christ's invisible presence (Greek: parousia) had already begun in October 1874. He believed this marked the beginning of the "last days" and a "harvest" period for gathering true Christians.
1914 (End of "Gentile Times": Russell's most prominent date was 1914. He predicted that the "Gentile Times" (a period derived from his interpretation of a prophecy in Daniel chapter 4, and calculations involving measurements of the Great Pyramid of Giza) would end, leading to the destruction of world governments and the full establishment of God's Kingdom on earth.
When these physical events did not occur as predicted, the doctrines were reinterpreted by his successor, Joseph Rutherford. The date 1914 was then adopted as the year Christ began ruling invisibly from heaven, a core doctrine of modern Jehovah's Witnesses.

That is the fake teacher that pervert the Bible you use the same man bible told us is a false teacher lol

Janosky:
Oga, stop deceiving yourself .
The Greek word @ John 10:33 is the same Greek word @Psalms 82:6, Acts 28:6 ,2 Cor 4:4, 1 Cor 8:5 "god".
Screenshot evidences.
Trinitarians changed it to capitalized 'G'. Wrong indeed.

Your foundation teacher are fake that why you don't have knowledge real information

MaxInDHouse:
“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life" John 3:16

Continue deceiving yourself with your Trinity Jesus said i should believe God's Son to have everlasting life.

John 10:28 ►
Jesus said many times

I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.

New Living Translation
I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one can snatch them away from me,

Kingsnairaland:
You are lost God told us people like you are going to come to say this things
Sorry you are lost

That Ecclesiastes also told you do you know the name of God's son

what does God need a son for? if it is a man like you or me, I will agree, but God?? what does he need a son for, so that he can send him to earth for us to kill him?? does that make any sense??

there is no where God ever said he had a son(apart from Jacob/Israel) that he would send as a human sacrifice..no where.

I know you so much want Jesus to be real, because you have wasted your resources and life on it. but my friend I was in your shoes, till my eyes were opened. ..

sonmvayina:
what does God need a son for? if it is a man like you or me, I will agree, but God?? what does he need a son for, so that he can send him to earth for us to kill him?? does that make any sense??

there is no where God ever said he had a son(apart from Jacob/Israel) that he would send as a human sacrifice..no where.

I know you so much want Jesus to be real, because you have wasted your resources and life on it. but my friend I was in your shoes, till my eyes were opened. ..

2 Corinthians 6:14 ►
Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?

New Living Translation
Don’t team up with those who are unbelievers. How can righteousness be a partner with wickedness? How can light live with darkness?

Kingsnairaland:
Dude exodus was written in Hebrew not in Greek lol

If you are reading Greek exodus then you will be confused lol

Do you know what the Greek septuagint is?

Kingsnairaland:
That is why I want to cool down to write the write up for you but let me summarise it for you

There is a being called
God almighty

God almighty shows us he is
God the Father
God the son
God the holy spirit

When he comes as God the Father he is still God almighty
When he comes as God the son he is still God almighty
When he comes as God the Holy spirit he is still God almighty

Now the special job of God the Father is he is the one who makes decisions and speaks

The special job of God the son is he is the one who do the physical work and only him can appear as a man

The special job of God the holy spirit is only him can be every where at the same time and only him gives life and powers

If you hear that God the Father is building the earth it is actually jesus that is doing it

If you hear that Jesus is talking or speaking it is actually God the Father living inside him that is doing the talking and speaking

If you hear that Jesus is giving eternal life it is actually the holy spirit living in jesus that is giving that thing

If you hear that God almighty is in example in London and in Lagos at the same time it is holy spirit that uses the appearance of jesus to appear like that

If you want to see God almighty it jesus that you will see

That is why when accept jesus as your lord God he lives in you and gives you eternal life immediately

Receiving the holy spirit is to receive power....
Jesus gives eternal life because it is the Holy spirit of jesus that lives in you

Jesus wants you to have powers and not only eternal life

That why jesus said you will only get powers when the holy spirit comes upon you

And if you see the holy spirit talking it is actually God the Father talking

They are so united that why they are one being in three dimensions

According to your explanations above, what exactly does Jesus do on his own without the father and Holy Spirit? Have you not told us here that it was Jesus that raised himself from the dead?

How did God Almighty come as the son and claimed that the Father was greater than himself? Is the Father greater than God Almighty?

I'm not disputing Jesus' words he said i should believe him as the only begotten Son of God {John 3:16} not Almighty God!🙂

Kingsnairaland:
John 10:28 ►
Jesus said many times
I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.
New Living Translation
I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one can snatch them away from me,

Truthseeker10:
Do you know what the Greek septuagint is?

The Septuagint (LXX) is the earliest and most important Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament), created for Greek-speaking Jews in Egypt around the 3rd-2nd centuries BCE

Your problem is you hate the original things of life why do you want the translation when you should go get the original Hebrew old testament and translate it to English rather than using translated versions to study

Truthseeker10:
According to your explanations above, what exactly does Jesus do on his own without the father and Holy Spirit? Have you not told us here that it was Jesus that raised himself from the dead?

Read it again to see the special work of jesus that I wrote there are you sure you even read it lol

Kingsnairaland:
Read it again to see the special work of jesus that I wrote there are you sure you even read it lol

So the special work that Jesus does does not include raising himself?

How did God Almighty come as the son and claimed that the Father was greater than himself? Is the Father greater than God Almighty?

Kingsnairaland:
The Septuagint (LXX) is the earliest and most important Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament), created for Greek-speaking Jews in Egypt around the 3rd-2nd centuries BCE

Your problem is you hate the original things of life why do you want the translation when you should go get the original Hebrew old testament and translate it to English rather than using translated versions to study

Good....what is the rendering of Exodus 3:14 in The septuagint let's compare it to John 8:58.

Was John 8:58 originally written in Hebrew old testament and translated to English?

Truthseeker10:
Good....what is the rendering of Exodus 3:14 in The septuagint let's compare it to John 8:58

Kingsnairaland:
The Septuagint (LXX) is the earliest and most important Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament), created for Greek-speaking Jews in Egypt around the 3rd-2nd centuries BCE

Your problem is you hate the original things of life why do you want the translation when you should go get the original Hebrew old testament and translate it to English rather than using translated versions to study

Oga, The Septuagint does NOT support your claim about Exodus 3:12,14.
@ Exodus 3:12 Septuagint "Ehyeh" is "I WILL BE."

@ Exodus 3:14, "Ehyeh" is "The BEING".
Is Ehyeh "I AM" in the Septuagint @ Exodus 3:12?

Oga, stop deceiving yourself.

Truthseeker10:
Good....what is the rendering of Exodus 3:14 in The septuagint let's compare it to John 8:58

Baba kings go deflect your poser because you're put him on a tight spot where his false claims will collapse.

Kingsnairaland:
Your foundation teacher are fake that why you don't have knowledge real information

When you study John 10:33-36,did Jesus or the Jews teach you he's God Almighty?

Jesus ask them,"why do you say I blaspheme when I
I am God's son?

Oga ,what is the meaning of " I am" in John 10:36?
Context of John 10:34,did Jesus remind the Jews they believe God's son is a god?
Yes.
Therefore, no capitalized G' in John 10:33.
The screenshots evidence " god" @ John 10:33 is correct .

Truthseeker10:
According to your explanations above, what exactly does Jesus do on his own without the father and Holy Spirit? Have you not told us here that it was Jesus that raised himself from the dead?

How did God Almighty come as the son and claimed that the Father was greater than himself? Is the Father greater than God Almighty?

There are two ways to understand this second question

Let me use you as an example
Your father is greater than you in rank title right but when it comes to the class of been a human being he is equal to you

You are the same human being as your father right and

That is how it is
God the Father
The son
The holy spirit are the same class of God almighty

But when it comes to rank title the father is greater
When it comes to jesus been a man the father is also greater

But as God almighty they are one

MaxInDHouse:
I'm not disputing Jesus' words he said i should believe him as the only begotten Son of God {John 3:16} not Almighty God!🙂

Then also believe jesus when he tells your that he and God almighty are one

And also believe jesus when he says I am lord LORD

And also believe him when he says I AM.

and also accept him when he says every kneel will bow to jesus and worship him

We don't worship angels

Truthseeker10:
So the special work that Jesus does does not include raising himself?

How did God Almighty come as the son and claimed that the Father was greater than himself? Is the Father greater than God Almighty?

I told you any things that partain to physical work it is only Jesus that do it

How many times will I say it

Raise himself from the dead is a physical work it requires body movement it is actually the work of jesus

Because jesus is the physical express image of God almighty

Truthseeker10:
Good....what is the rendering of Exodus 3:14 in The septuagint let's compare it to John 8:58.

Was John 8:58 originally written in Hebrew old testament and translated to English?

Exodus 3:14
Was originally written in Hebrew

John 8:58
Was said by Jesus in aramaic
But was originally written down in Greek



The original Hebrew words for Exodus 3:14 are אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה (Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh), meaning "
I Am That I Am" or
"I Will Be What I Will Be, " a phrase revealing God's self-existent, eternal, and ever-present nature,
linked to the divine name YHWH ( Yahweh ) .
The Hebrew Phrase
אֶהְיֶה (Ehyeh ):
The first-person singular form of the verb "to be" (hayah), indicating "I am,"
"I will be," or
"I cause to be".
אֲשֶׁר (Asher) : A relative pronoun, translated as "that," "who," or "which".
אֶהְיֶה (Ehyeh): Again, "I am" or "I will be".

Note I am is the original old translation

what the original Greek words of John 8:58



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In John 8:58, the crucial Greek phrase is "ἐγὼ εἰμί" (ego eimi), meaning "I am," used by Jesus in claiming divine preexistence before Abraham, contrasting the temporal "was" (γενέσθαι - genesthai) for Abraham with His eternal "I am".
The full core phrase is "πρὶν Ἀβραὰμ γενέσθαι ἐγὼ εἰμί" (Prin Abraam genesthai ego eimi), meaning "
Before Abraham came to be, I am ".

Here's a breakdown of the key Greek words and their significance:
Ἀμὴν ἀμὴν λέγω ὑμῖν (Amen amen lego humin): "Truly, truly, I say to you".
πρὶν Ἀβραὰμ γενέσθαι (Prin Abraam genesthai): "
Before Abraham was" or "Before Abraham came into being" (referring to Abraham's birth/existence).
ἐγὼ εἰμί (Ego eimi): "I am "
(emphatic, implying eternal existence, connecting to God's "I AM" in Exodus 3:14).

Janosky:
Oga, The Septuagint does NOT support your claim about Exodus 3:12,14.
@ Exodus 3:12 Septuagint "Ehyeh" is "I WILL BE."

@ Exodus 3:14, "Ehyeh" is "The BEING".
Is Ehyeh "I AM" in the Septuagint @ Exodus 3:12?

Oga, stop deceiving yourself.

This one is still using his fake teacher Bible
The man that write your bible that claim he knows when Jesus was going to come lol

And jesus warn us that false teacher will raise to say look here is jesus time for coming

Yet even though jesus told you your teacher is a false man you still follow him lol

You are beyond helping

Janosky:
Baba kings go deflect your poser because you're put him on a tight spot where his false claims will collapse.

You don't know God is living inside me he tells me any thing you are going to say before you even say it

I stay in my room and he tells me the response to say to you

GOD told me that if jesus had come in this our generation that it is actually people like you that will actually kill him because you will never believe he is God almighty

You will even refuse to eat his flesh as you are doing now

You will refuse to accept that he can give you eternal life

You will reject the holy spirit as you do today

Janosky:
When you study John 10:33-36,did Jesus or the Jews teach you he's God Almighty?

Jesus ask them,"why do you say I blaspheme when I
I am God's son?

Oga ,what is the meaning of " I am" in John 10:36?
Context of John 10:34,did Jesus remind the Jews they believe God's son is a god?
Yes.
Therefore, no capitalized G' in John 10:33.
The screenshots evidence " god" @ John 10:33 is correct .

If the foundation is destroyed what can the righteous man do..


Absolutely nothing

So long as you use fake Bible you can't accept jesus

He didn't ask me to believe him as God!🙂

Kingsnairaland:
Then also believe jesus when he tells your that he and God almighty are one
And also believe jesus when he says I am lord LORD. And also believe him when he says I AM.
and also accept him when he says every kneel will bow to jesus and worship him
We don't worship angels

MaxInDHouse:
He didn't ask me to believe him as God!🙂

Thomas called jesus my GOD

Jesus said you should eat my flesh to remember my death and resurrection

Question
Do your organisation eat jesus flesh

Jesus said pray to God to get the holy spirit

Question
Do your organisation pray to receive the holy spirit

Jesus said those who believe in me will speak with new tongues if they drink poison it won't kill them etc

Question
Do your organisation speak in tongues

I know the answers to this question from your organisation behaviour

But let me see what you are going to say